Excellent videos! Glad I found you. I'm an 85hr pilot that isn't current, but will be after the summer. It's great to watch quality videos like this that really lay everything out for the viewer in an easy to follow manner. It keeps me mentally sharp and prepared to re-enter the cockpit.
I enjoyed both arrival and departure video's you did. I fly in SC but mostly class G airspace. I have retired and desire to begin going places and using class C airspace. To get comfortable with all of the procedures, watching and listening to everything you say helps a lot. I will probably ask a friend CFI to go with me one time just to have his advice and backup!
I just finished my training out of a CTAF airstrip and we practiced comms work with Class D airports and flight following mostly. PDX is our local Class C, and I suspect it's the "biggest" Charlie in the country. It has a TAC chart and transition routes and everything. We went in there once, at midnight so as to not get in the way of the 737s. Biggest problem I had was their radios are surprisingly unclear, and man those guys talk fast. Also their ATIS is horrific. Sounds like Steven Hawking coming to you live from the wreck of the Titanic.
Nice video thank you for posting. I am a fairly new pilot who has completed pretty much all of my flying / training at non controlled airports so the video was a nice refresher from when I covered this in ground school.
Just wanted to say thanks! This helped me a lot during my PPL a few years ago and now I’m working on my CPL, it still is refreshing. Your style of teaching is superb, especially how you simplify processes to make them easier to understand!
Good job and great subject. That being said I do wish more TH-cam CFI's would teach proper/ more professional communication nomenclature by not encouraging words like ( in the box or here's your flash) I know it sounds cool but it's just not the right thing to teach and there have been miss communications by doing so. I have occasion to speak with controllers on a regular basses and they say it dose not give them the sense that the pilot is a professional; they say the airline pilots never us it.. CHEERS
My instructor also doesn't like using terms like that but I disagree with you. If it makes the pilot feel more comfortable and get into their flow, I would rather have them in that zone with slang that really doesn't affect other pilots, as opposed to on edge and possibly missing something.
Thanks so much. My 14 y/o son has started flight instruction at 48X, which is where I fly from as well. That said, I'm out of currency and, now that my son is on fire I figure it's time to get back in the saddle as well. He's flown sim all over the area, but this video is exactly what he (and I) need at this time. Great refresher and yeah, Tampa Approach can be quite busy. Thanks very much; you're an excellent instructor.
Glad to hear you're getting back into it! Check out some of our other instructional playlists and the website: www.fly8ma.com Hopefully it can help ya out!
Got my private in class D and never had to talk to clearance or ground so this video is very helpful. I have a slowish class C near that I plan on practicing comms at but it’s so nerve wracking when doing that solo.
Flew out by myself yesterday for the first time at a class c airspace. Trying to get back took so long because of the traffic. It was a nice challenge though.
Nice! Busy airspace can be a lot of fun. Keep growing that comfort zone and never be afraid to ask questions to controllers. Most are happy to take a break from the formal phraseology and just talk to you and answer any question you might have :)
I have a class D question. Can you request flight following from ground or do you have to wait to go airborne and call center? I departed KECP recently and tower gave me the freq for center to get flight following. I'm just curious. Thanks for sharing the video! Anthony
FLY8MA.com Flight Training Perfect! I just checked it out. My training was in Class C and I didn't know clearance and ground had the same function in Class D. I assume it's the same for getting an IFR clearance. Thanks!
GeneralSirDouglasMcA As an air traffic controller, and a pilot, I’ll tell you that you should always call clearance regardless of what flight rules you plan to fly on. Most smaller airports (generally class D) or even slow times at busier class C or even B airports, clearance and ground will be combined on a single frequency or the controller will manage both frequencies at the same time. It is possible that some airports will have local procedures for VFR to call ground and IFR to call clearance, but I would never just assume that. It drives me crazy when I’m working s busy ground and a pilot calls for VFR flight following. The clearance frequency is clearly published, and clearly different than the ground frequency. When you want a clearance (VFR or IFR- you call clearance. When you want to taxi- you call ground. Plain and simple. And I encourage pilots to seek out a tour of their local ATC facilities and ask about local procedures and best practices at your home airport. Just call them and identify yourself as a local pilot wishing to educate himself/ herself about the airspace, etc. and we do our best to schedule you for a tour.
I wish I had a class c within local training flight distance. If I want tower practice I must choose between a couple very low volume class Ds while avoiding the class B shelves. My base is a medium size class G.
excellent video for the newcomers I really appreciate you putting on a very good clear instructions on how to land and tuning to the VOR and take off so thank you
Great video as always. You state that the fbo/dolphin ramp “is a non-movement area” and the current afid states that only the terminal ramp is uncontrolled. As a student, my guess is that the pavement markings on the fbo ramp is what you saw to know that you could have taxied up to the taxiway before getting clearance to taxi. Is that correct? I know that the video is older than the current afid so maybe previous versions state that both the fbo and terminal ramps were uncontrolled. Finally, is it common that the afid will not state if the fbo ramp is uncontrolled and as a result it on the GA pilots to recognize the non-movement area markings and not rely on the afid for whether an fbo ramp is controlled. Thx.
Decent video except for the part where you said you can control airspace much better than controllers can at 8:30. Feel free to swing by any facility and give it a shot after you learn the endless rules we have to know in the 7110.65, 13-204v1-3, etc etc etc. That's how you get stuck in holding patterns for a while lol.
John is this the same as the 50/70 rule for runway lengths ??? I usually take intersection departures as its longer then normal.... awesome video thanks for sharing
Is there such a thing as ident lights? Something that you could push and a small mirror would spin around a strobe so you could see the plane easily in day or night.
I literally loled when they gave him a shorter runway right in the middle of his self-congratulatory speech about rejecting the intersection departure. If he meant it, and wasn't just virtual signaling about safety, he'd have set waited for 32 as long as it took.
I fly my plane out of a Class Charlie airport and prefer that vs pilot controlled/uncontrolled airports. There's fewer yahoos/unknowns, usually better runway conditions, better runway layout (most uncontrolled have one runway), and it's got more instrument options. But i totally agree you're going to pay more per gallon of fuel and you'll burn more of it at 0kts and whenmaneuvering to land.
Hi John, Really enjoy your videos! I have a question, if I may? The weather report was wind from 020 at 10 gusting to 17. ATC assigned runway 32 I realize ATC switched you to runway 04. The question is at what point would you have requested runway 04 in order to have a more true upwind take off? Thanks again!
Hard to put a solid number on it, if the runways were equal length with equal obstacles on either end you simply choose the one with best headwind component. Given this scenario, it really comes from knowing the airplane itself and what kind of Vx / Vy speed it has. Being that rwy 04 is so much shorter and dumps you out over obstacles, it would have to be somewhere in the 20s coming from 020 degrees for me to switch (but that's just my comfort level with that airplane). Hope that helps! Fly Safe!
When you were getting clearance, I noticed you didn't cold call, which I was taught to do. Should I just call up clearance and tell them what I want without a cold call?
I'd have to say it really depends on the airport and time of day. Some busy class Ds warrant a cold call, some not so busy Class Cs you can just call up, tell em what you want and ask for an update on the football game score all at once. But to give you a cleaner answer, when in doubt or at an unfamiliar airport, go ahead and cold call. Safe Flying!
Is there any coursework material you can recommend to calibrate the eyeballs to scan in 10° increments? I find I am able to achieve like 15 to 16.7°, but would like to really dial in that 10 if at all possible.
After 5000+ hours and 9 ratings I find that talking a bit slower gets the best results. And a question: Why is the transponder called "the box" and a radio, which is the same size and shape is not referred to as a "box"....
Gordon Dean I made the same comments. Speed talking does not make clarity. Listen to the ATC, they speak very clearly and easily understood. I usually pause a half second before talking to ensure my voice is completely legible
Airports like SeaTac charge something like $150 to land. I think all he was saying in this video is that airports like the Class C one in the video are so busy that it can take a long time to get clearance to land and they can have you taxi all over creation both after landing and when you're ready to takeoff. Those long times add up on the Hobbs meter and therefore jack up your rental cost significantly.
So pretty much same procedures as a delta then? Other than clearance delivery on take off I see no real difference. I fly out of a delta just wanted to see the similarities and differences.
Pretty much, additional steps for Charlie over Delta are: Ctc clearance delivery, get a squawk and Departure frequency, get a more defined departure route (heading and altitude is typical), and then ctc Departure when tower hands you off airborne.... take it in small chunks and its pretty simple :)
Yeah seemed pretty much like an ifr clearance for vfr. Planning on flying into boise which is. Charlie so wanted to make sure i knew what i was doing. Thanks!
FLY8MA.com Flight Training any AIM or other reference that mentions that we use clearance delivery in class C airspace? Where do we find this departure procedure in writing? Is there one? Thank you!
Class G is uncontrolled airspace, ATC doesn't have radar contact and can't provide flight following or traffic advisories. Therefore it wouldn't make sense to use a squawk other than VFR or emergency in class G.
That's the latest information. You tell the controllers that you're with A so they know you've heard the most recent information. When it updates it goes to B and so on.
Rwy 04 still affords enough length to be airborne and make a field should you have a problem and be out of usable rwy. It may not be as ideal as 32, but it is an acceptable risk based on the other 1,001 factors that go into the equation. The "stack the deck in your favor" idea is simply to ensure you do what is in your control to ensure the best possible outcome, while still operating with real world constraints and accepting reasonable risks (i.e. if I want to land at my buddies house, I will have to use a 2,000 grass strip, when departing, I will taxi the full length to have as much rwy in front of me as possible, rather than a mid field 1,000' departure that the aircraft could perform, but with less maneuvering room should something go wrong)
@@jakegleason26 I thought the same thing, Jake. He could've made another change "Well, on second thought, I'll take your first runway suggestion" or just go with the latest, since it's no worse than the original offer.
You are in the front seat and only lap belt and NO shoulder belts? Maybe I’m rusty but thought there is a reg..Also why are you teaching to squeeze by Skyhawks..that is how collision occurred..bad practice..
Hi John ! Do Not Forget That You’re Talking To The Globe 🌎 . Just as You Explained What VFR Stands For (Visual Flight Rules), I Think It Would Be Very Good To Explain Other Common Everyday Acronyms as CTAF (Common Traffic Advisory Frequency). Thanks A Lot ! Very Helpful ! *Please, Do Not Cut The Visual Approach Patern Like You Did In Venice. Tks a Lot 👍🏻
ATC talks tooooooo fast. I'm new to this and most of the time I can't digest Alllll they say. .... and then say it back? I can't even write it down fast enough. :( I have no idea how to fix that.
Listening to the Live ATC app might help. In the beginning, it also can be helpful to have your instructor do the radio calls while you focus on flying the plane. You will get there!
Like a trucker using slang on a CB with that " in the box"... Shoulder harness just hanging behind your seat ?? Lots of Students and New Pilots watching your channel. Do it Right and Speak Professionally..
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but methinks ATC was going out of their way to be not accommodating. When you first asked for full runway, they reassigned you to a shorter runway than the original mid-runway assignment you got. LOL. No reasons given.
Dude, in order for people to inderstand you better, slow your speech, its not a race. Its better to be understood than to guess. You may know what you want to say, but the listener has to clearly understand what you are saying. In addition refrain from saying "in the box" as that's not the preferred communication. Remember to veryify altimeter and compass once you are on runway to make note of any discrepancies. Setting the altimeter to field elevation once you are on the runway will give you any corrections u need to make enroute. Otherwise, nice video!
you were doing great until you said you could control the airport better than air traffic controllers. There's a Class C because its usually much busier than that airport without a control tower. Thus the controllers. Fly into Winter Haven on a gorgeous Saturday morning and let me know how that works out for you controlling the airport. Otherwise good job on the videos.
weird you say how busy Winter Haven is . Just took lessons right next to the airport at Jack Brown seaplane base . Absolutely no radio use at all in the J3 cubs . We had no issues . Got to keep your eyes open . .
Arghh! Please do not say "in the box". After all, ATC doesn't say to you "clear to brush your tires with terra firma" instead of "clear to land". PLEASE...use standard phraseology. It's not cool to use silly pet phrases.
In the box you seem to be a little less than professional. Your a reason that new pilots have poor com . Come on know you can do better. I’d never suggest anyone ti to watch your video
Couldn't reach the flaps or brakes from right side with them until I had them replaced with longer ones I can leave loose, gotta do the best you can with what you got.
My arm is too short to reach the brake or flap handle when using the harnesses tightened up, don't know how to be any more clear. Best I can do is use the longer ones loose and hope there's time to tighten them up if ever needed. If you'd like to help pay for the fancy kind that are on the retract roller that would be awesome! you can donate here: www.patreon.com/FLY8MA
Wait, stack EVERYTHING in your favor for a flight, RIGHT? And you fly right seat and do not use your shoulder harness.....GOT IT. Do as I say....not as I do. Bad things will never happen to me I am a FAA licensed CFI and by God I know it all and you are a mere mortal.
Excellent videos! Glad I found you. I'm an 85hr pilot that isn't current, but will be after the summer. It's great to watch quality videos like this that really lay everything out for the viewer in an easy to follow manner. It keeps me mentally sharp and prepared to re-enter the cockpit.
I enjoyed both arrival and departure video's you did. I fly in SC but mostly class G airspace. I have retired and desire to begin going places and using class C airspace. To get comfortable with all of the procedures, watching and listening to everything you say helps a lot. I will probably ask a friend CFI to go with me one time just to have his advice and backup!
Thanks! Share us with your friends on Facebook and around the airport!
Excellent. 5000+ hr pilot. Great to get common sense refresher info.
Thanks for watching! Glad it helps out, let us know if there's any other refresher topics you'd be interested in!
I just finished my training out of a CTAF airstrip and we practiced comms work with Class D airports and flight following mostly. PDX is our local Class C, and I suspect it's the "biggest" Charlie in the country. It has a TAC chart and transition routes and everything. We went in there once, at midnight so as to not get in the way of the 737s. Biggest problem I had was their radios are surprisingly unclear, and man those guys talk fast. Also their ATIS is horrific. Sounds like Steven Hawking coming to you live from the wreck of the Titanic.
“In the box”? Come on John.
He’s a reason new pilots are so poor at com
as a student that made me cringe.
John does do a great job at teaching how to communicate effectively and assertively. I’d love to fly with him!
Awesome video John. Thanks for sharing.
Heyyyy, this is where I am doing my training! I just found your channel the other day! This is super helpful!
Best of luck during training! Feel free to check out more info on the site too at fly8ma.com
I’m a student at Venice FFTC this video was very helpful as I’m getting close to solo. Thanks again, Dennis Englewood Fl
Nice video thank you for posting. I am a fairly new pilot who has completed pretty much all of my flying / training at non controlled airports so the video was a nice refresher from when I covered this in ground school.
Just wanted to say thanks! This helped me a lot during my PPL a few years ago and now I’m working on my CPL, it still is refreshing. Your style of teaching is superb, especially how you simplify processes to make them easier to understand!
This types of video really makes flight skill helpful. appreciate that
Good job and great subject. That being said I do wish more TH-cam CFI's would teach proper/ more professional communication nomenclature by not encouraging words like ( in the box or here's your flash) I know it sounds cool but it's just not the right thing to teach and there have been miss communications by doing so. I have occasion to speak with controllers on a regular basses and they say it dose not give them the sense that the pilot is a professional; they say the airline pilots never us it.. CHEERS
My instructor also doesn't like using terms like that but I disagree with you. If it makes the pilot feel more comfortable and get into their flow, I would rather have them in that zone with slang that really doesn't affect other pilots, as opposed to on edge and possibly missing something.
Easy to follow. I train out of Class C and communications is one of my challenges. Great video to review
Thanks so much. My 14 y/o son has started flight instruction at 48X, which is where I fly from as well. That said, I'm out of currency and, now that my son is on fire I figure it's time to get back in the saddle as well. He's flown sim all over the area, but this video is exactly what he (and I) need at this time. Great refresher and yeah, Tampa Approach can be quite busy. Thanks very much; you're an excellent instructor.
Glad to hear you're getting back into it! Check out some of our other instructional playlists and the website: www.fly8ma.com
Hopefully it can help ya out!
Got my private in class D and never had to talk to clearance or ground so this video is very helpful. I have a slowish class C near that I plan on practicing comms at but it’s so nerve wracking when doing that solo.
If they have tower wouldn’t they also have ground and clearance to taxi to the runway?
Nice delivery. Very helpful for new pilot
Thank you John.
Flew out by myself yesterday for the first time at a class c airspace. Trying to get back took so long because of the traffic. It was a nice challenge though.
Nice! Busy airspace can be a lot of fun. Keep growing that comfort zone and never be afraid to ask questions to controllers. Most are happy to take a break from the formal phraseology and just talk to you and answer any question you might have :)
Very informative for someone considering crawling back into the cockpit. Been a long while and am learning about the new rules.
Very much enjoyed this. Thanks for sharing your flight with us.
Not a problem, thanks for watching and let us know if you have any questions!
Thank you for awesome video!
I'm glad that it helped!!
Great video. I may have missed it but would you request to switch to tower frequency while waiting short of? Or would you go ahead and just switch?
Just switch when you're at the line
Great work 👏 👍.
Thank you! Cheers!
I like your initial calling format...much better than MzeroA's initial calling format...great video!
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Great Vid.
"In the box" lol
Excellent teaching, I enjoyed the video it will better my skills. I look forward to watching more.. I subscribed.. thanks..
Glad it helps! Be sure to share us with your friends on FaceBook and around the airport!
This is very helpful!
Glad you think so!
I have a class D question. Can you request flight following from ground or do you have to wait to go airborne and call center?
I departed KECP recently and tower gave me the freq for center to get flight following. I'm just curious.
Thanks for sharing the video!
Anthony
Yes, actually have a video on how to do just that, th-cam.com/video/4iquR2MZg9A/w-d-xo.html
FLY8MA.com Flight Training Perfect! I just checked it out.
My training was in Class C and I didn't know clearance and ground had the same function in Class D. I assume it's the same for getting an IFR clearance.
Thanks!
If you're IFR, you'll still contact clearance in Class D, but if you're VFR, you simply contact ground.
GeneralSirDouglasMcA As an air traffic controller, and a pilot, I’ll tell you that you should always call clearance regardless of what flight rules you plan to fly on. Most smaller airports (generally class D) or even slow times at busier class C or even B airports, clearance and ground will be combined on a single frequency or the controller will manage both frequencies at the same time. It is possible that some airports will have local procedures for VFR to call ground and IFR to call clearance, but I would never just assume that. It drives me crazy when I’m working s busy ground and a pilot calls for VFR flight following. The clearance frequency is clearly published, and clearly different than the ground frequency. When you want a clearance (VFR or IFR- you call clearance. When you want to taxi- you call ground. Plain and simple. And I encourage pilots to seek out a tour of their local ATC facilities and ask about local procedures and best practices at your home airport. Just call them and identify yourself as a local pilot wishing to educate himself/ herself about the airspace, etc. and we do our best to schedule you for a tour.
I wish I had a class c within local training flight distance. If I want tower practice I must choose between a couple very low volume class Ds while avoiding the class B shelves. My base is a medium size class G.
Thanks for the video. What does Fly 8 Mike Alpha mean?
excellent video for the newcomers I really appreciate you putting on a very good clear instructions on how to land and tuning to the VOR and take off so thank you
Glad it helps! Fly Safe!
Great video as always. You state that the fbo/dolphin ramp “is a non-movement area” and the current afid states that only the terminal ramp is uncontrolled. As a student, my guess is that the pavement markings on the fbo ramp is what you saw to know that you could have taxied up to the taxiway before getting clearance to taxi. Is that correct? I know that the video is older than the current afid so maybe previous versions state that both the fbo and terminal ramps were uncontrolled. Finally, is it common that the afid will not state if the fbo ramp is uncontrolled and as a result it on the GA pilots to recognize the non-movement area markings and not rely on the afid for whether an fbo ramp is controlled. Thx.
I think the Skyhawk I flew out of Universal. It looks familiar. They have a lot of new students
Decent video except for the part where you said you can control airspace much better than controllers can at 8:30. Feel free to swing by any facility and give it a shot after you learn the endless rules we have to know in the 7110.65, 13-204v1-3, etc etc etc. That's how you get stuck in holding patterns for a while lol.
I did catch that remark too! Probably not exactly what he mint to say?
Could you expand on how you "make it work out a lot better than air traffic controllers do", @ 8:30?
Excellent explanation. Thanks
John is this the same as the 50/70 rule for runway lengths ??? I usually take intersection departures as its longer then normal.... awesome video thanks for sharing
Is there such a thing as ident lights? Something that you could push and a small mirror would spin around a strobe so you could see the plane easily in day or night.
But the intersection departure had more usable than the full length of 04, right? 😂
I literally loled when they gave him a shorter runway right in the middle of his self-congratulatory speech about rejecting the intersection departure. If he meant it, and wasn't just virtual signaling about safety, he'd have set waited for 32 as long as it took.
You make great videos. Would love to get some lessons
Did you use ground or clearance to depart if they don’t combine frequency
I fly my plane out of a Class Charlie airport and prefer that vs pilot controlled/uncontrolled airports. There's fewer yahoos/unknowns, usually better runway conditions, better runway layout (most uncontrolled have one runway), and it's got more instrument options. But i totally agree you're going to pay more per gallon of fuel and you'll burn more of it at 0kts and whenmaneuvering to land.
Maybe a dumb question, but just wondering why you didn't sit in the left seat?
Just want to give a clear view of the controls on the left side and what they're doing :)
Seat belts not in the checklist?
Hi John, Really enjoy your videos! I have a question, if I may? The weather report was wind from 020 at 10 gusting to 17. ATC assigned runway 32 I realize ATC switched you to runway 04. The question is at what point would you have requested runway 04 in order to have a more true upwind take off? Thanks again!
Hard to put a solid number on it, if the runways were equal length with equal obstacles on either end you simply choose the one with best headwind component. Given this scenario, it really comes from knowing the airplane itself and what kind of Vx / Vy speed it has. Being that rwy 04 is so much shorter and dumps you out over obstacles, it would have to be somewhere in the 20s coming from 020 degrees for me to switch (but that's just my comfort level with that airplane). Hope that helps! Fly Safe!
Great video. Thanks
You wouldn't need to contact clearance delivery unless you had an IFR flight plan filed, right?
Excellent video, well done!
Thanks! Fly safe!
No read back of runway while cleared for take off?
What were the exact words of the departure controller when he said to proceed to Venice?
When you were getting clearance, I noticed you didn't cold call, which I was taught to do. Should I just call up clearance and tell them what I want without a cold call?
I'd have to say it really depends on the airport and time of day. Some busy class Ds warrant a cold call, some not so busy Class Cs you can just call up, tell em what you want and ask for an update on the football game score all at once.
But to give you a cleaner answer, when in doubt or at an unfamiliar airport, go ahead and cold call.
Safe Flying!
Yes
Haha, I train at lantana at 2:10 I heard it
Is there any coursework material you can recommend to calibrate the eyeballs to scan in 10° increments? I find I am able to achieve like 15 to 16.7°, but would like to really dial in that 10 if at all possible.
hi. thumbs up!
love ur videos.
Why do you take the right seat..??
So you can see the controls and instruments in the left seat easier in the vid!
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Kind of u to reply. Am ur fan bro!!
Very helpful!
What does the CRAFT acronym stand for? And for VFR flight can you request what elevation you fly at? How does that work?
I learned CRAFT as an IFR mnemonic, not VFR, but it stands for:
Clearance, Route, Altitude, Frequency, Transponder.
The clarity of sound is amazing. How are you connecting your microphone to the camera (I assume it’s a go pro)
Thanks
Great video, best explanation I've seen from anyone!
13:10 Lower fore shortly???
8:10 oufff shots fired
Why did you receive your clearance on ground and not clearance delivery?
After 5000+ hours and 9 ratings I find that talking a bit slower gets the best results. And a question: Why is the transponder called "the box" and a radio, which is the same size and shape is not referred to as a "box"....
Gordon Dean I made the same comments. Speed talking does not make clarity. Listen to the ATC, they speak very clearly and easily understood. I usually pause a half second before talking to ensure my voice is completely legible
You said that it cost to land and takeoff from a controlled airport. How much does it cost and ho2 do they charge you?
Airports like SeaTac charge something like $150 to land.
I think all he was saying in this video is that airports like the Class C one in the video are so busy that it can take a long time to get clearance to land and they can have you taxi all over creation both after landing and when you're ready to takeoff. Those long times add up on the Hobbs meter and therefore jack up your rental cost significantly.
Whenever an ATC says "Goodbye", is that an official statement to verify you have no more business with that ATC or is it a courtesy?
So pretty much same procedures as a delta then? Other than clearance delivery on take off I see no real difference. I fly out of a delta just wanted to see the similarities and differences.
Pretty much, additional steps for Charlie over Delta are: Ctc clearance delivery, get a squawk and Departure frequency, get a more defined departure route (heading and altitude is typical), and then ctc Departure when tower hands you off airborne.... take it in small chunks and its pretty simple :)
Yeah seemed pretty much like an ifr clearance for vfr. Planning on flying into boise which is. Charlie so wanted to make sure i knew what i was doing. Thanks!
FLY8MA.com Flight Training any AIM or other reference that mentions that we use clearance delivery in class C airspace? Where do we find this departure procedure in writing? Is there one? Thank you!
Great Video, thanks again.
Glad it helps! Safe flying out there!
So confused. Class c does not legally require a clearance for arrivals or departures but i see pilots do it all the time. Why?
Do we really need to change the squawk code to 1200 before entering Class G?
Class G is uncontrolled airspace, ATC doesn't have radar contact and can't provide flight following or traffic advisories. Therefore it wouldn't make sense to use a squawk other than VFR or emergency in class G.
@@Virtualmix THX
Did he say he was at "Dolphin"?
@InfiniteMushroom The "Must be a Florida thing". That sounds about right...lol
Where’s your seatbelt bro
Runway behind you, altitude above you, fuel left on the ground.
Was that one nacho flaps for takeoff? Was the runway still not long enough? LOL
Are you wondering why he followed proper take off procedure?
"go the extra mile" heh
What is information a? Why do they give you that at the end?
That's the latest information. You tell the controllers that you're with A so they know you've heard the most recent information. When it updates it goes to B and so on.
Does someone care to comment on the door being open during taxi?
Standard procedure in a hot environment.
Don't forget to lock door.
Go the way xtra mile ... to get yourself another 5,000 feet lol
Why wouldn't your rationale for refusing an intersection takeoff on 32 also lead you to refuse 04 and insist on 32?
Rwy 04 still affords enough length to be airborne and make a field should you have a problem and be out of usable rwy. It may not be as ideal as 32, but it is an acceptable risk based on the other 1,001 factors that go into the equation. The "stack the deck in your favor" idea is simply to ensure you do what is in your control to ensure the best possible outcome, while still operating with real world constraints and accepting reasonable risks (i.e. if I want to land at my buddies house, I will have to use a 2,000 grass strip, when departing, I will taxi the full length to have as much rwy in front of me as possible, rather than a mid field 1,000' departure that the aircraft could perform, but with less maneuvering room should something go wrong)
No need to annoy the control tower than necessary either!
@@jakegleason26 I thought the same thing, Jake. He could've made another change "Well, on second thought, I'll take your first runway suggestion" or just go with the latest, since it's no worse than the original offer.
The term "In the box" for the squawk code is a bad habit. Sorry, you probably already know that.
I say "in the box" when my girlfriend enters me with a strap on.
😂😂I flew that Skyhawk 2272C it's out of Bartow🫡
Do you have special perms to not have sterile cockpit or is that only a commercial regulation?
You are in the front seat and only lap belt and NO shoulder belts? Maybe I’m rusty but thought there is a reg..Also why are you teaching to squeeze by Skyhawks..that is how collision occurred..bad practice..
Hi John !
Do Not Forget That You’re Talking To The Globe 🌎 .
Just as You Explained What VFR Stands For (Visual Flight Rules),
I Think It Would Be Very Good To Explain Other Common Everyday Acronyms as CTAF (Common Traffic Advisory Frequency).
Thanks A Lot !
Very Helpful !
*Please, Do Not Cut The Visual Approach Patern Like You Did In Venice.
Tks a Lot 👍🏻
Seat belts
For the 85 year old man who wants to go back on cockpit , please let me know where you fly from , just to look for traffic..
RUDE!
God Bless anyone that age for having the courage and skills to fly.
that says 85 hr, as in hours.
ATC talks tooooooo fast. I'm new to this and most of the time I can't digest Alllll they say. .... and then say it back? I can't even write it down fast enough. :( I have no idea how to fix that.
Listening to the Live ATC app might help. In the beginning, it also can be helpful to have your instructor do the radio calls while you focus on flying the plane. You will get there!
Like a trucker using slang on a CB with that " in the box"... Shoulder harness just hanging behind your seat ?? Lots of Students and New Pilots watching your channel. Do it Right and Speak Professionally..
! ! ! OHHH NO ! ! !
! ! ! YOU CUT THE APPROACH ! ! !
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but methinks ATC was going out of their way to be not accommodating. When you first asked for full runway, they reassigned you to a shorter runway than the original mid-runway assignment you got. LOL. No reasons given.
Dude, in order for people to inderstand you better, slow your speech, its not a race. Its better to be understood than to guess. You may know what you want to say, but the listener has to clearly understand what you are saying.
In addition refrain from saying "in the box" as that's not the preferred communication.
Remember to veryify altimeter and compass once you are on runway to make note of any discrepancies. Setting the altimeter to field elevation once you are on the runway will give you any corrections u need to make enroute.
Otherwise, nice video!
@@splitloopgaming3523 you understood perfectly didnt you.....
@@splitloopgaming3523 you just come on here to annoy people?? U need a life...
John please slow down lol, I have to skip several of your videos for speaking too fast...thanks
Doulos of Christ Jesus just play it slower, you can watch it half speed
you were doing great until you said you could control the airport better than air traffic controllers. There's a Class C because its usually much busier than that airport without a control tower. Thus the controllers. Fly into Winter Haven on a gorgeous Saturday morning and let me know how that works out for you controlling the airport. Otherwise good job on the videos.
weird you say how busy Winter Haven is . Just took lessons right next to the airport at Jack Brown seaplane base . Absolutely no radio use at all in the J3 cubs . We had no issues . Got to keep your eyes open . .
lucky you...I've heard lots of horror stories
Arghh! Please do not say "in the box". After all, ATC doesn't say to you "clear to brush your tires with terra firma" instead of "clear to land". PLEASE...use standard phraseology. It's not cool to use silly pet phrases.
calling back your squak, and saying "in the box"... is not the proper way to respond back.
you should just say, Squak 0122
That's correct!
In the box you seem to be a little less than professional. Your a reason that new pilots have poor com . Come on know you can do better. I’d never suggest anyone ti to watch your video
Good job on no shoulder harness.........👎
Couldn't reach the flaps or brakes from right side with them until I had them replaced with longer ones I can leave loose, gotta do the best you can with what you got.
Oh. Well. 91.107 allows for that? Because I sure can't find it myself. At 6'3" and 220lbs I never had a problem in a 140. Odd.
+Bill Golden It's in the regs, "unless interferes with required flight duty" i.e. pulling the brake handle. #shortpilotproblems
91.105
Bill Golden Good Job... correcting someone who just schooled you...
Doesn't apply. If you were too fat, or tall, you'd have a valid point. Getting a better shot from your GoPro isn't. Good luck to you.
My arm is too short to reach the brake or flap handle when using the harnesses tightened up, don't know how to be any more clear. Best I can do is use the longer ones loose and hope there's time to tighten them up if ever needed. If you'd like to help pay for the fancy kind that are on the retract roller that would be awesome! you can donate here: www.patreon.com/FLY8MA
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Wait, stack EVERYTHING in your favor for a flight, RIGHT? And you fly right seat and do not use your shoulder harness.....GOT IT. Do as I say....not as I do. Bad things will never happen to me I am a FAA licensed CFI and by God I know it all and you are a mere mortal.
Bruce The Curmudgeon I understand your unwavering criticism, because it must be hard to even get in a cockpit with a brain the size of yours...
At least you admit that you're a curmudgeon!!!
Great Video. Thanks