Thank you sir for showing the breakdown, checking valve shim clearance & work required. Great to see CFmoto doing the right thing seeing KTM engines having these issues. I found removing the lower & upper gauges loose to allow more room than the whole unit. Loosing hold of them singularly won't fall into the engine. A fantastic presentation. Cheers
just watched this video was very informative was worried about my bikes camshafts but watching this video has put my worries to rest ,thx for the very informative video happy trails
And theres no weird wear on the cam lobes..i cant tell you how relieved i am to see this ..thank you sir..i just hit 2k.. i just need t i get a retune..mine is super lean..in the colder weather its really bad ..but i cant find anyone that tuning them yet
Thank you for being the only one to address this on youtube! I didn't know if the motor was redesigned or cfmoto was scrubbing the internet of any potential valve issues, but it sounds like they reminded the underlying issues.
Good to hear from you sir, I believe KTM did most of the redesign on this engine... they released the redesigned engine on their 2023 790 Adventure that CFMOTO builds for them in China. CFMOTO uses the same engine they build for KTM in their Ibex 800/800mt bikes.... thanks for watching sir... :)
Great video and thanks from all of us that are going to tackle this job at some point. I recently purchased a 2024 Ibex 800 Explore here in Canada and was worried about the KTM cam issue when I wrote the cheque for it. Glad to see your motor looks good and hopefully mine will be the same when I cross that bridge (9 km so far on the gage, and it's snowing already, lol!). I would like to see your next video show "how to" adjust the clearance if required, that's all that was missed. Any guidelines/suggestions for suspension setup not covered in the manual or do you follow their recommendations? Thanks for you video, they are a pain to produce and really slow the process down when you are just trying to complete a task ... well done!
Good to hear from you sir, Congrats on your new ride. I am sure your bike will be fine as well. I really have not made many adjustments on my suspension on the Ibex. I have added a couple of turns of preload to the rear spring to help with all the gear I usually carry and that is about it... I find the factory damping settings to be pretty good. Enjoy that new bike and thanks for watching... :)
Good to see you checking. Mine won't be open till 30k range maybe longer if i keep seeing so many good reports. A few of those boys from down under have been rolling some miles, more i see the better I like.
Interesting video. Motorcycles have become rather complicated compared to the on/off road bikes I used to have back in the '70s and '80s. Back in those days I had a 1978 Yamaha DT250 and after that a '78 DT400 which was a great bike.. The two four stroke enduros I had were a 1983 Honda XL600R and after that a 1986 Yamaha XT600 and I would sure like to find something like that again used in good condition but that's very hard to do cuz dirt bikes seem to get beat up pretty bad.
as always thanks for a great video ...sadly ethanol fuels when water is introduced will not separate....in any storage container or tank and has to be drained or burned up and is a very serious issue in older storage tanks . Sadly a jump to a solution that has caused billions of dollars in damage to every aspect of the use of gasoline as a fuel...
You are a life saver. I wish I lived nearby so I could have you do all this with me. My dealer just did the 6,000 service. Then, the next day, in the worstbpossible place riding the WABDR section 3, before the washout, the fuel line came off, soaking the bike and my leg with gas. I didn't have the tools to get the crash bars off. Fortunately, two locals went home for their truck and rescued me. I now am hating this bike from all the mcu failures, a black screen of death from updating software. Now this. I also just got a recall notice for the throttle wires. Pluss it seems like the engine is so rattle loud. Is yours this way too?
Good to hear from you. sorry to hear you are having a tough time there. All of the LC8C engines sound the same... a bucket of rocks... nothing to be concerned about though... hope you get yours sorted out soon... thanks for watching.. :)
On the KTM camshaft 790 issue. It only ever effected pre 2021 models, and only from the Austrian plant. CF Moto KTM 790 engines are all made in the Chinese plant and were improved (no camshaft problems). This is from KTM press release this year (25 July 2024)
Great video! Going to check out your other videos on this bike, too. I think the two stock integrated crash bars are my favorite part of this bike. The bigger piece that connects the two around the engine that you have to buy separately looks nice, too. Better looking than really any crash bar I can think of for any other ADV bike and this is OEM. I have a Honda CB500X I am outgrowing and have been looking heavily into all the 700/800/900ish cc adventure bikes and will have to keep an eye on the Ibex 800T for sure. I'm not in a place to be able to buy one brand new so I am very curious to see how these fair in the used market in a year or two.
Very interesting vid. Very well made bike by all accounts. Here in the UK if you undertake tasks like this on a new bike you'll likely invalidate your warranty.
Good to hear from you sir, I have used Motul 7100 4T full synthetic 10W50 in the Ibex... have changed it at 2500 miles or so... thanks for watching... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 keep on keeping on! 4K miles on my 790. Heading across country this coming week on a 6k mile trip. I’ll likely check my valves this winter at 11-12k miles or so. I appreciate this video!
Hello again sir, I was a mechanic in this life... I owned an automotive service center for several years as well as built automatic transmissions for Jasper Engine and Transmission for several years... I am hoping for better in my next life... thanks for watching again... :)
Good to hear from you sir, I have not noticed anything like that with my bike.. mostly just lean surging at low speed and an occasional sudden lurch or two at low speeds... thanks for watching... :)
Well done video, I own a 2020 KTM 790 Duke, replaced the camshafts at 70,000km. I'm curious as to your source for the engine improvements you stated on the 2023 CFMoto 790 Engine? I seem to recall instances of camshaft failures on 2023 models in the Camshaft Failure facebook group.
@@sadeqalbana yes, i'm curious where the information on the engine improvements came from. Does CFMoto state this somewhere with details? KTM sure wouldn't.
@@paultaylorduke I've also heard that the thermostat housing on the cf moto is aluminum, not plastic, but upon checking the spare parts manual, they all share the same KTM part number, not sure if it's the exact same or different
well you certainly have peace of mind were you tempted to replace the plugs as it looks such a work up to get to the plugs .did you say yours were platinum tipped? as standard
@@kugangles9860 Manufactured yes, still designed by Austrians. CFMoto still does the engineering on the engines they make for their own line up, even if it's a licensed engine design. They likely saw the flaw on their testing and revised their 790 engine and likely informed KTM about it. Recent KTM issues is what happens when the corporate side is run by people who don't care about bikes.
Very reassuring that KTM/CF seem to have addressed this issue 😎
Thx for the Vid !
As a 24 “ KTM 790 Adv owner , this is reassuring to see
You my sir are a brilliant mechanic, love your videos , i own the same bike and love it .
Good to hear from you sir... thanks for watching.. :)
Superb video.Second to none.👍.Best wishes from Wales,UK🏴.
Great to hear form you ... thanks for watching.. :)
Fun to watch BackDude. I have a 650.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Thank you sir for showing the breakdown, checking valve shim clearance & work required.
Great to see CFmoto doing the right thing seeing KTM engines having these issues.
I found removing the lower & upper gauges loose to allow more room than the whole unit. Loosing hold of them singularly won't fall into the engine.
A fantastic presentation.
Cheers
Great video...thank you
I'm purchasing one tomorrow because of your videos and I'll be checking those swing arm bushings immediately!
Good to hear from you sir. Congrats on your new ride... thanks for watching.. :)
What a pleasure to watch Sir , you have made a lot of KTM owners happy I'm sure .
Another good one Sir. Thank you!
just watched this video was very informative was worried about my bikes camshafts but watching this video has put my worries to rest ,thx for the very informative video happy trails
Very nice job with many details, enjoyed the video John and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Thanks Hank... :)
And theres no weird wear on the cam lobes..i cant tell you how relieved i am to see this ..thank you sir..i just hit 2k.. i just need t i get a retune..mine is super lean..in the colder weather its really bad ..but i cant find anyone that tuning them yet
Great to hear from you sir, you can go to MSCtune.com and they have a map that corrects the fuel issues.. Good luck and thanks for watching... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 i will do just that thank you sir.
Thanks for this video I bet there many people relieved by seeing this 👍🏻
Excellent video.
Hello again sir... thanks for watching... :)
Thank you for being the only one to address this on youtube! I didn't know if the motor was redesigned or cfmoto was scrubbing the internet of any potential valve issues, but it sounds like they reminded the underlying issues.
Good to hear from you sir, I believe KTM did most of the redesign on this engine... they released the redesigned engine on their 2023 790 Adventure that CFMOTO builds for them in China. CFMOTO uses the same engine they build for KTM in their Ibex 800/800mt bikes.... thanks for watching sir... :)
Great video and thanks from all of us that are going to tackle this job at some point. I recently purchased a 2024 Ibex 800 Explore here in Canada and was worried about the KTM cam issue when I wrote the cheque for it. Glad to see your motor looks good and hopefully mine will be the same when I cross that bridge (9 km so far on the gage, and it's snowing already, lol!). I would like to see your next video show "how to" adjust the clearance if required, that's all that was missed.
Any guidelines/suggestions for suspension setup not covered in the manual or do you follow their recommendations?
Thanks for you video, they are a pain to produce and really slow the process down when you are just trying to complete a task ... well done!
Good to hear from you sir, Congrats on your new ride. I am sure your bike will be fine as well. I really have not made many adjustments on my suspension on the Ibex. I have added a couple of turns of preload to the rear spring to help with all the gear I usually carry and that is about it... I find the factory damping settings to be pretty good. Enjoy that new bike and thanks for watching... :)
Good to see you checking. Mine won't be open till 30k range maybe longer if i keep seeing so many good reports. A few of those boys from down under have been rolling some miles, more i see the better I like.
Thanks for watching sir.. :)
When people talk about my bmw gs being "expensive " to service, I'll show them your video! Lol
Amazing jobb...well done!!!
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Interesting video. Motorcycles have become rather complicated compared to the on/off road bikes I used to have back in the '70s and '80s. Back in those days I had a 1978 Yamaha DT250 and after that a '78 DT400 which was a great bike.. The two four stroke enduros I had were a 1983 Honda XL600R and after that a 1986 Yamaha XT600 and I would sure like to find something like that again used in good condition but that's very hard to do cuz dirt bikes seem to get beat up pretty bad.
Hey there Doc, those old bikes back in the day were a lot easier to maintain for sure... thanks for watching... :)
Nice job on that bike. I’ll never complain agin about setting the valve lash on my 411 himi. Haha.
Good to hear from you sir... Thanks for watching.. :)
as always thanks for a great video ...sadly ethanol fuels when water is introduced will not separate....in any storage container or tank and has to be drained or burned up and is a very serious issue in older storage tanks . Sadly a jump to a solution that has caused billions of dollars in damage to every aspect of the use of gasoline as a fuel...
You are a life saver. I wish I lived nearby so I could have you do all this with me. My dealer just did the 6,000 service. Then, the next day, in the worstbpossible place riding the WABDR section 3, before the washout, the fuel line came off, soaking the bike and my leg with gas. I didn't have the tools to get the crash bars off. Fortunately, two locals went home for their truck and rescued me.
I now am hating this bike from all the mcu failures, a black screen of death from updating software. Now this. I also just got a recall notice for the throttle wires.
Pluss it seems like the engine is so rattle loud. Is yours this way too?
Good to hear from you. sorry to hear you are having a tough time there. All of the LC8C engines sound the same... a bucket of rocks... nothing to be concerned about though... hope you get yours sorted out soon... thanks for watching.. :)
Another excellent video. Thanks Ozark. Your videos are some of the best I’ve seen, and are extremely helpful.
Great to hear from you sir... Thanks for watching... :)
On the KTM camshaft 790 issue. It only ever effected pre 2021 models, and only from the Austrian plant. CF Moto KTM 790 engines are all made in the Chinese plant and were improved (no camshaft problems). This is from KTM press release this year (25 July 2024)
@CaptainCaveman782 good to hear from you sir... thanks for watching... :)
Outstanding video!
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Great video! Going to check out your other videos on this bike, too.
I think the two stock integrated crash bars are my favorite part of this bike. The bigger piece that connects the two around the engine that you have to buy separately looks nice, too. Better looking than really any crash bar I can think of for any other ADV bike and this is OEM. I have a Honda CB500X I am outgrowing and have been looking heavily into all the 700/800/900ish cc adventure bikes and will have to keep an eye on the Ibex 800T for sure. I'm not in a place to be able to buy one brand new so I am very curious to see how these fair in the used market in a year or two.
great to hear from you sir.. glad you liked the video... thanks for watching... :)
Very interesting vid. Very well made bike by all accounts. Here in the UK if you undertake tasks like this on a new bike you'll likely invalidate your warranty.
Good to hear from you sir, thanks for watching.. :)
Great video 👍
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Awesome !
Great explanation of the clearance check. As an owner of a 2024 790 this is good to see! What oil has this Ibex been ran on?
Good to hear from you sir, I have used Motul 7100 4T full synthetic 10W50 in the Ibex... have changed it at 2500 miles or so... thanks for watching... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 keep on keeping on! 4K miles on my 790. Heading across country this coming week on a 6k mile trip. I’ll likely check my valves this winter at 11-12k miles or so. I appreciate this video!
@@donnyjackson1908 Good to hear from you sir, have a great trip and thanks for watching... :)
It seems the CFmoto 790 engines doesn't have the KTM 790 Cam issue, hopefully for all
Cams looked great !! It's why I watched...lol..ibex800t here..
@@jamiehalifax4954 I wonder if the CFMoto parts can retro fit the KTM engines with the issues.
@@hexadecimal1517 someone on here likely knows !
thank you for this vid
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Did you get a recall notice for your bike. I got one for electronic throttle wire. Repair action is adjustment of throttle wire rubber clasps
Good to hear from you... Yes I checked mine and made sure my throttle wires were not pulling tight and had plenty of free play... :)
Great video! How many miles are on your 800T when you did this video?
Great to hear from you sir, I have 10,500 miles on the Ibex... thanks for watching... :)
That's a lot of work John. Were you a mechanic in a previous life? Cheers Jim
Hello again sir, I was a mechanic in this life... I owned an automotive service center for several years as well as built automatic transmissions for Jasper Engine and Transmission for several years... I am hoping for better in my next life... thanks for watching again... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 I thought so. I've noticed you do all mechanical work on you bikes. Keep up the good work
Do you ever get a fueling/engine hiccup when you give it some gas. It happens occasionally with mine
Good to hear from you sir, I have not noticed anything like that with my bike.. mostly just lean surging at low speed and an occasional sudden lurch or two at low speeds... thanks for watching... :)
Well done video, I own a 2020 KTM 790 Duke, replaced the camshafts at 70,000km. I'm curious as to your source for the engine improvements you stated on the 2023 CFMoto 790 Engine?
I seem to recall instances of camshaft failures on 2023 models in the Camshaft Failure facebook group.
you mean on the cf moto engines?
@@sadeqalbana yes, i'm curious where the information on the engine improvements came from. Does CFMoto state this somewhere with details? KTM sure wouldn't.
@@paultaylorduke I've also heard that the thermostat housing on the cf moto is aluminum, not plastic, but upon checking the spare parts manual, they all share the same KTM part number, not sure if it's the exact same or different
I have been a member in that group since early 2023 and have not seen an instance of a CFMOTO built cam failure to date... I hope I do not... :)
not sure about the thermostat housing but if you check the cam and cam follower part numbers you will find that they are different...
well you certainly have peace of mind were you tempted to replace the plugs as it looks such a work up to get to the plugs .did you say yours were platinum tipped? as standard
Great to hear from you sir, yes I have new plugs in... they are platinum tipped from the factory... thanks for watching... :)
Is the ktm 790 24 same engine as cfmoto 800 mt ?
as far as I know they are both made at the CFMOTO factory in China... KTM are building their 890 and Norden 901engines in Austria... :)
Looks like Chinese guys do better ktm engines than Austrians!
The KTM LC8 platform has always been made in China. The only engine that's still made in Austria is the big 1290 which has always been reliable.
@@kugangles9860 Manufactured yes, still designed by Austrians. CFMoto still does the engineering on the engines they make for their own line up, even if it's a licensed engine design. They likely saw the flaw on their testing and revised their 790 engine and likely informed KTM about it.
Recent KTM issues is what happens when the corporate side is run by people who don't care about bikes.
how many miles on it,
10,220
So, what is the conclusion for this engine ? Is it reliable ?
I have 8,000 on mine and it’s still going strong!
Do you also have a CFMOTO 800 MT from 2022?? Or have I missed something? Thanks for reply
Good to hear form you sir... I only have the 2023 Ibex 800T. 2023 was the first year they were available here in the USA... thanks for watching.. :)
Great motor, but man's it's noisy ...
Cam lobe looks worn and going to be junk just like every 790 890 900 901 all same engines
How did you seen that? In your dreams?
Cam lobe looks worn? Mister.... glasses fast