Thank you for editing properly your videos. Most people leave a lot of wrenching in their videos that is not necessary and is utterly boring. Good stuff, subscribed
Hey John, thanks for providing another quality maintenance video 👍 I think you’ve highlighted the fact that every manufacturer does not apply enough lubricants on to mechanical systems. So, just as you are doing, I would also suggest that these investigations & applications be done as soon as a motorcycle is purchased. I do this when Christmas comes around.😉 Thanks again.
Great video once again. Between watching you doing the steering head and now the swing arm, makes me wonder what else that needs lubed. Only thing else I would have liked to see is adjusting the chain tension. Thanks for you training. So nice to see it done slowly and explaining small details.
Thank you for sharing. If possible, please share more how to service video. These will help new motorcyclists like me to keep the bike at good and safe condition. Thanks.
Great stuff. thanks for sharing another maintenance video. Looks like they needed to grease your bike better during construction. Not horrible. But I'd have liked to have seen more grease, for sure. I appreciate your work on this bike and maintenance.
So informative and I learned other things along the way. Thank you. Also.... I looked for you while running around the NW Arkansas with a buddy on our bikes .
Tutto il grasso in eccesso che sporca che poi cola....., praticamente è nel perno tenuta forcellone, si può dire è un difetto della 800MT, la guarnizione di tenuta del perno forcellone ha un difetto chiaro....., bravo per il lavoro ed aver scoperto il difetto grave 👏👏👏👍
After watching, you don't have to take the bearings out, so I don't see any need to take anything off, just uncover the bearings, grease, and put shaft in , and cover up. You might loosen the Chan to release tension. What you think? RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
It's NOT just CFMOTO that does not grease the sispension. I've been buying brand new motorcycles since 1967. (I bought a brand new CL350 Honda in 1967 for $700 with my paper route money). I've bought and worked all my bikes over the last 56 years or so. Yamaha's, Hondas, a shit load of Kawasaki's and guess what, 99% of the time I found very little to almost no grease in the rear suspension needle bearings when doing the first tire changes. I'd always be amazed how little grease I'd find in the rear suspension's needle bearings, wheel bearings. steering head bearings. That is why I've always done my own tire changes.
My Tuono 660 came like this as well. Had to be lubed. Japanese are guilty of this too. They are all cutting costs wherever they can. Lube job is the first thing I ask from my mechanics to do.
Thank you for your videos. I think i will buy a 800 touring in the spring or summer , and your work will help me a lot. It looks like a simple bike to work on. I hope it will be reliable on the long term. Have a nice day !
Great Job 👍 thanks. My sons and l are always wondering what line of work you were in John, we obviously reckon it was mechanical engineering. You certainly know your way round a motorcycle. Really enjoyed this video. Mike.
Good to hear from you guys, I am a computer science guy who started out on Main Frames back in the 1980's. I grew up working and and building motorcycles and cars. I owned an automotive service business for several years and worked as an auto body tech for several years as well. I also worked for a large remanufacturing company building Chrysler and Toyota transaxles/transmissions for quite a few years as well. I have been working in enterprise IT for the last 15 years and am thinking it might be time to retire or at least slow down now.. Thanks for watching and yo guys keep safe out there... :)
something to save you time, no need to slacken off the chain adjusters if removing the wheel. just take the axle nut off, take the adjuster block off that side, tap the axle just enough to allow the other side adjuster block to come away from the adjuster bolt, and then the wheel moves forward enough to slip the chain off, then axle out, wheel out. do the reverse and then the wheel and chain go back in at the same adjustment with which you started with, i do it on every bike i owned, hope this helps.
Great video on servicing the 800T. Just picked up mine last Saturday and rode 100 miles back home. It was great, I'm loving it. You mentioned ordering new bearings, any recommendation for a site that carry parts or do you source via the dealer? What about a service manual, any recommendation? Thanks.
Good to hear from you sir, congrats on your new ride... I just ordered bearings and sleeves for a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure through an online KTM dealer.. 'chapmoto.com" out in California. just about all the parts on the Ibex are KTM 790 Adventure. I also bought a 2020 790 Adventure service manual pdf online. I have not found much that is different on this bike as far as parts go... I cannot seem to find where I got the manual from but I just did a search on Google for " 2020 KTM service manual" there were several to choose from. Enjoy that new ride... thanks for watching.. :)
I watched your video, congratulations! I wanted to ask you for some advice: I noticed that you didn’t use any thread locker on the monoshock bolt. Do you recommend not using it, considering the high torque?
Thanks for yet another great video, John. Should be taking delivery of mine soon. I'll add this to my list of things to check. If you could; what size is the rear axle nut? I want to make sure I have the right tools for this (and others) job.
Hey there Steve... I believe the rear axle nut on the Ibex is 1 1/4" or 32mm.. your choice... thanks for watching and good luck with your new ride... :)
Vedento il video, mi è venuto in mente di chiederle se è a conoscenza di eventuali "punti deboli". Ad esempio, ho sentito dire dell'albero motore che, dopo 40.000 chilometri, potrebbe rovinarsi. Sa' qualcosa al riguardo? Grazie per i bellissimi video!
I'm planning on selling a few of my bikes for an 800mt here in Oz. Looks like if I buy one, I'll have to take the swingarm and the front and rear axles out and grease them. Had the same lack of grease on most bikes I have bought.
Good to hear from you sir, the CFMOTO Ibex 800T/MT has identical suspension components as the KTM 790 Adventure. I use a KTM 790 Adventure service manual for all of my torque values... Thanks for watching... :)
I've had a lot of dirt bikes (Honda's. Kawasaki's, Yamahooter's, and Suckzuki's) with a lot of swingarm arm and linkage needle bearings, axle bearings, head bearings etc etc Guess what, they all seemed to come from the factory with very little to, to almost no grease on the bearings. You should clean and regrease the axle and steering head bears too. Changing out bearing races is no fun.
Good to hear from you sir, I packed the steering head bearings in a previous video.... th-cam.com/video/33yJN1m1ly4/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching... :)
Great to hear from you sir, other than the swing arm bearings I have had no issues with the CFMOTO. The fueling is not great on this bike but I knew that before I purchased the bike so that was no surprise. I do not have much to complain about with the Ibex... thanks for watching sir... :)
Good to hear from you sir, It is always a good idea to check all bearings on a new bike... I have seen this before on other bikes... I am loving the Ibex.. a really nice bike to travel on ... :)
so if I want to get a quick look a those bearing a can just remove the foot peg assembly both side and remove the swing arm shaft with out remove all the rest?
Hello John, thanks for the detailed video. What is the mileage of the bike? Did You have any issues with the bike during one year of ownership? I am considering to buy one.
Hello there sir, good to hear from you... I now have 8000 miles on the CFMOTO. I have had no other issues with the bike other than the swingarm bearings... It has been a rock solid performer so far... I am not a fan of the fuel mapping but I am used to it now so its not a big deal to me... Good luck with your new bike and thanks for watching... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484did you consider doing the ota update that supposedly fixes the fuelling? Maybe this helps? I sold my versys 1000 and my project for a 1250gs will not realize... I'm now looking at one of these ibex 800!
@@pascalparent3137 Good to hear from you sir, yes I did the OTA update when it came out... it was a fix for the fan controller issue that all the bikes had with the original factory firmware... That update was not for any fueling issues... there have been no further updates to date... good luck with your now bike search and thanks for watching... :)
Question. Does the Ibex have a problem with corrosion? Im surprised they didnt do those tasks before they came out of the factory. I live by the ocean so corrosion prevention is a big deal for me. The steering head as well.
Hello there sir, I have not had any issues or heard of any issues with corrosion on any of the CFMOTO bikes but I do not live by the ocean either.... thanks for watching... :)
What prompted you to lube the steering head bearings and the swing arm bearings? Im asking because im looking at one of these bikes in the near future and would like to make the right choice on buying this machine
Hello there sir, sorry I am so late in replying... I service the swing arm/drag link and steering head bearings in all of my bikes every winter just as regular maintenance... thanks for watching and good luck with your new bike purchase... :)
Hello there sir, good to hear from you. I found my swing arm bearings were dry and rusting so I think yes it is necessary to lube the bearings on a new bike.... thanks for watching... :)
That’s a shame if only they took 2 seconds to grease them Properly, you wouldn’t have to take the whole bike apart and spend time and money . What’s it to them they can’t add another pennies worth of Grease it pisses me off
Scusarmi: perché non è intervento cfmoto in garanzia? Questo lavoro doveva essere fatto officina cfmoto in garanzia senza pagare nulla, il cuscinetti forcellone non hanno tenuto, infatti il grasso fuori uscito è finito tutto sul copri pignone, cfmoto deve essere informata dei cuscinetti difettati per un richiamo su tutte le moto prodotte.....Ciao amico tanta buona strada 👋👋
Salve signore, è bello sentire la vostra opinione. I cuscinetti del forcellone sarebbero sicuramente coperti da garanzia, tuttavia se li avessi portati da un rivenditore per l'assistenza non ci sarebbe il video del problema e della risoluzione... grazie per la visione... stai al sicuro là fuori... :)
Es bueno saber de usted, señor, si hubiera llevado la parte trasera para el servicio de garantía, entonces no habría podido hacer este video... Eso no es grasa perdida en la rueda dentada, sino lubricante de cadena al lubricar la cadena... los rodamientos no tenían grasa para empezar... Gracias por mirar... :)
Very informative. I don't own one of these bikes but the quality looks good, apart from the lack of lube
Quality video, very handy as we say in Wales.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Mate, this is so good , and helpful , thank you. 😊
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Thank you for editing properly your videos. Most people leave a lot of wrenching in their videos that is not necessary and is utterly boring. Good stuff, subscribed
Good to hear from you sir... thanks for watching.. :)
Hey John, thanks for providing another quality maintenance video 👍 I think you’ve highlighted the fact that every manufacturer does not apply enough lubricants on to mechanical systems. So, just as you are doing, I would also suggest that these investigations & applications be done as soon as a motorcycle is purchased.
I do this when Christmas comes around.😉 Thanks again.
Good to hear from you sir... thanks for watching... :)
Great video once again. Between watching you doing the steering head and now the swing arm, makes me wonder what else that needs lubed. Only thing else I would have liked to see is adjusting the chain tension. Thanks for you training. So nice to see it done slowly and explaining small details.
Fair point, but would it not help if this was done in the PDI check?? before any damage can be done 👍
Enjoying the videos .... and somewhat envious of the workshop :)
@CaptainCaveman782 thanks for watching sir... :)
Thank you for sharing. If possible, please share more how to service video. These will help new motorcyclists like me to keep the bike at good and safe condition. Thanks.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
that was great...so glad you did this one before I tackled the job...thanks
Good luck sir and thanks for watching... :)
Cool. calm and collective as always. Another top notch video that's enjoyable to watch all the way to the end. Thank you. Scott
Thanks for watching sir... :)
If you would please, sir, show the correct way and attention on the chain to adjust it. Really enjoy your content thank you sir.
Great stuff. thanks for sharing another maintenance video. Looks like they needed to grease your bike better during construction. Not horrible. But I'd have liked to have seen more grease, for sure. I appreciate your work on this bike and maintenance.
So informative and I learned other things along the way. Thank you. Also.... I looked for you while running around the NW Arkansas with a buddy on our bikes .
Good to hear from you sir, I hope to see you out there soon... thanks for watching... :)
Tutto il grasso in eccesso che sporca che poi cola....., praticamente è nel perno tenuta forcellone, si può dire è un difetto della 800MT, la guarnizione di tenuta del perno forcellone ha un difetto chiaro....., bravo per il lavoro ed aver scoperto il difetto grave 👏👏👏👍
Grazie per l'attenzione, signore... :)
Another great and informative video! Thank you.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
After watching, you don't have to take the bearings out, so I don't see any need to take anything off, just uncover the bearings, grease, and put shaft in , and cover up. You might loosen the Chan to release tension. What you think? RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Thought the same, is there a need to remove the wheel ??
Grazie per queste informazioni, per chi,come a me, piace fare questi lavoretti. Peccato solo che non capisco l' inglese.. 😢 Grazie ancora.
È bello sentire la tua opinione, signore, grazie per la visione... :)
Grazie per l'attenzione signore, Google Translate può aiutarti con la barriera linguistica... sono felice di poterti essere d'aiuto... :)
Very good and clean job. Thanks.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Checked mine very dry for sure thxs for the heads up.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
It's NOT just CFMOTO that does not grease the sispension. I've been buying brand new motorcycles since 1967. (I bought a brand new CL350 Honda in 1967 for $700 with my paper route money). I've bought and worked all my bikes over the last 56 years or so. Yamaha's, Hondas, a shit load of Kawasaki's and guess what, 99% of the time I found very little to almost no grease in the rear suspension needle bearings when doing the first tire changes. I'd always be amazed how little grease I'd find in the rear suspension's needle bearings, wheel bearings. steering head bearings. That is why I've always done my own tire changes.
Great video.
Thanks for watching sir... :)
My Tuono 660 came like this as well. Had to be lubed. Japanese are guilty of this too. They are all cutting costs wherever they can. Lube job is the first thing I ask from my mechanics to do.
Thank you for your videos. I think i will buy a 800 touring in the spring or summer , and your work will help me a lot. It looks like a simple bike to work on. I hope it will be reliable on the long term. Have a nice day !
Good to hear from you sir... Good luck with your new ride and thanks for watching... :)
Great Job 👍 thanks. My sons and l are always wondering what line of work you were in John, we obviously reckon it was mechanical engineering.
You certainly know your way round a motorcycle.
Really enjoyed this video.
Mike.
Good to hear from you guys, I am a computer science guy who started out on Main Frames back in the 1980's. I grew up working and and building motorcycles and cars. I owned an automotive service business for several years and worked as an auto body tech for several years as well. I also worked for a large remanufacturing company building Chrysler and Toyota transaxles/transmissions for quite a few years as well. I have been working in enterprise IT for the last 15 years and am thinking it might be time to retire or at least slow down now.. Thanks for watching and yo guys keep safe out there... :)
Thank you Sir. Very informative👏👏👍
something to save you time, no need to slacken off the chain adjusters if removing the wheel. just take the axle nut off, take the adjuster block off that side, tap the axle just enough to allow the other side adjuster block to come away from the adjuster bolt, and then the wheel moves forward enough to slip the chain off, then axle out, wheel out. do the reverse and then the wheel and chain go back in at the same adjustment with which you started with, i do it on every bike i owned, hope this helps.
Did they have rear disc brakes ?
This bike and all it's mega parts to take apart and out of the way makes me want to buy my 3rd Kaw KLR 650!.
Great video on servicing the 800T. Just picked up mine last Saturday and rode 100 miles back home. It was great, I'm loving it. You mentioned ordering new bearings, any recommendation for a site that carry parts or do you source via the dealer? What about a service manual, any recommendation? Thanks.
Good to hear from you sir, congrats on your new ride... I just ordered bearings and sleeves for a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure through an online KTM dealer.. 'chapmoto.com" out in California. just about all the parts on the Ibex are KTM 790 Adventure. I also bought a 2020 790 Adventure service manual pdf online. I have not found much that is different on this bike as far as parts go... I cannot seem to find where I got the manual from but I just did a search on Google for " 2020 KTM service manual" there were several to choose from. Enjoy that new ride... thanks for watching.. :)
I watched your video, congratulations! I wanted to ask you for some advice: I noticed that you didn’t use any thread locker on the monoshock bolt. Do you recommend not using it, considering the high torque?
very cool, thank you so much for your helpful tips
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Thanks for yet another great video, John. Should be taking delivery of mine soon. I'll add this to my list of things to check. If you could; what size is the rear axle nut? I want to make sure I have the right tools for this (and others) job.
Hey there Steve... I believe the rear axle nut on the Ibex is 1 1/4" or 32mm.. your choice... thanks for watching and good luck with your new ride... :)
Nice work
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Nice video. Thanks for the instructions!
Thanks for watching sir.. :)
Vedento il video, mi è venuto in mente di chiederle se è a conoscenza di eventuali "punti deboli". Ad esempio, ho sentito dire dell'albero motore che, dopo 40.000 chilometri, potrebbe rovinarsi. Sa' qualcosa al riguardo? Grazie per i bellissimi video!
I'm planning on selling a few of my bikes for an 800mt here in Oz. Looks like if I buy one, I'll have to take the swingarm and the front and rear axles out and grease them. Had the same lack of grease on most bikes I have bought.
Good to hear from you sir, good luck with your new bike and thanks for watching... :)
Thanks for sharing !
Thanks for watching sir... :)
Now this is one heck of a good video. Subscribed. Where can I find the torque values for those screws though?
Good to hear from you sir, the CFMOTO Ibex 800T/MT has identical suspension components as the KTM 790 Adventure. I use a KTM 790 Adventure service manual for all of my torque values... Thanks for watching... :)
Don't feel bad, my Honda Rally 300 had 3 drops of grease.
Scary that CFMoto isn't packing the bearings with grease. Makes me wonder what else they are not performing in their manufacturing process.
Brilliant ❤
Thanks for watching sir... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 your videos are great, I'm just about to buy the 800 MT myself and your videos are the best about this bike!
I've had a lot of dirt bikes (Honda's. Kawasaki's, Yamahooter's, and Suckzuki's) with a lot of swingarm arm and linkage needle bearings, axle bearings, head bearings etc etc Guess what, they all seemed to come from the factory with very little to, to almost no grease on the bearings. You should clean and regrease the axle and steering head bears too. Changing out bearing races is no fun.
Good to hear from you sir, I packed the steering head bearings in a previous video.... th-cam.com/video/33yJN1m1ly4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching... :)
You can tell us for sure how is the quality of this machine because you are working on it how you see it is fromm good staff?
Great to hear from you sir, other than the swing arm bearings I have had no issues with the CFMOTO. The fueling is not great on this bike but I knew that before I purchased the bike so that was no surprise. I do not have much to complain about with the Ibex... thanks for watching sir... :)
I couldn't help but notice that it appeared that you didn't loop the chain back over the spindle before you put the wheel back in?
Hello there sir, good to hear from you... yes editing failure... thanks for watching... :)
Great video,I'm surprised at them bearings being dry on such a new bike..how are you liking the CF moto so far?
Good to hear from you sir, It is always a good idea to check all bearings on a new bike... I have seen this before on other bikes... I am loving the Ibex.. a really nice bike to travel on ... :)
awesome--- im too scared to do it lol
thanks for watching sir... :)
so if I want to get a quick look a those bearing a can just remove the foot peg assembly both side and remove the swing arm shaft with out remove all the rest?
Hello there sir, yes some people have been able to do it that way.... thanks for watching... :)
have you checked the headset bearings ? like you i am surprised like you there was no grease in the swingarm bearings
Hello there sir, good to hear from you... yes you can see that video here... th-cam.com/video/33yJN1m1ly4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching... :)
Just a wee query, what's the black plumbing pipe used for that you cable tie on to the panier frame?
good to hear from you sir... the tube holds my tool roll.... thanks for watching... keep safe out there... :)
Hello John, thanks for the detailed video. What is the mileage of the bike? Did You have any issues with the bike during one year of ownership? I am considering to buy one.
Hello there sir, good to hear from you... I now have 8000 miles on the CFMOTO. I have had no other issues with the bike other than the swingarm bearings... It has been a rock solid performer so far... I am not a fan of the fuel mapping but I am used to it now so its not a big deal to me... Good luck with your new bike and thanks for watching... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484did you consider doing the ota update that supposedly fixes the fuelling? Maybe this helps? I sold my versys 1000 and my project for a 1250gs will not realize... I'm now looking at one of these ibex 800!
@@pascalparent3137 Good to hear from you sir, yes I did the OTA update when it came out... it was a fix for the fan controller issue that all the bikes had with the original factory firmware... That update was not for any fueling issues... there have been no further updates to date... good luck with your now bike search and thanks for watching... :)
Question. Does the Ibex have a problem with corrosion? Im surprised they didnt do those tasks before they came out of the factory. I live by the ocean so corrosion prevention is a big deal for me. The steering head as well.
Hello there sir, I have not had any issues or heard of any issues with corrosion on any of the CFMOTO bikes but I do not live by the ocean either.... thanks for watching... :)
@ozarksbackroads5484 thank you for putting this great content out there for all of us to gain a little knowledge 🙏
What prompted you to lube the steering head bearings and the swing arm bearings? Im asking because im looking at one of these bikes in the near future and would like to make the right choice on buying this machine
Hello there sir, sorry I am so late in replying... I service the swing arm/drag link and steering head bearings in all of my bikes every winter just as regular maintenance... thanks for watching and good luck with your new bike purchase... :)
New chain?
Hello there sir, good to hear from you... yes heavy duty RK chain... thanks for watching... :)
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And is it really necessary to lube those bearings on a new bike?
Hello there sir, good to hear from you. I found my swing arm bearings were dry and rusting so I think yes it is necessary to lube the bearings on a new bike.... thanks for watching... :)
What size is the axle nut?
Good to hear from you sir, the rear axle nut on the Ibex is 32mm or a 1 1/4" will do the trick also... thanks for watching... :)
Woo hoo. First one here!
That’s a shame if only they took 2 seconds to grease them Properly, you wouldn’t have to take the whole bike apart and spend time and money . What’s it to them they can’t add another pennies worth of Grease it pisses me off
Good to hear from you sir, I would not get to worked up at least I got to make a cool video about it... :) Thanks for watching...
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Scusarmi: perché non è intervento cfmoto in garanzia? Questo lavoro doveva essere fatto officina cfmoto in garanzia senza pagare nulla, il cuscinetti forcellone non hanno tenuto, infatti il grasso fuori uscito è finito tutto sul copri pignone, cfmoto deve essere informata dei cuscinetti difettati per un richiamo su tutte le moto prodotte.....Ciao amico tanta buona strada 👋👋
Salve signore, è bello sentire la vostra opinione. I cuscinetti del forcellone sarebbero sicuramente coperti da garanzia, tuttavia se li avessi portati da un rivenditore per l'assistenza non ci sarebbe il video del problema e della risoluzione... grazie per la visione... stai al sicuro là fuori... :)
Es bueno saber de usted, señor, si hubiera llevado la parte trasera para el servicio de garantía, entonces no habría podido hacer este video... Eso no es grasa perdida en la rueda dentada, sino lubricante de cadena al lubricar la cadena... los rodamientos no tenían grasa para empezar... Gracias por mirar... :)