I am not a sad ham, but a happy one :) I too, own a few UV5R radios as well as a couple of high dollar Kenwood/Yaesu radios. I recently tested a UV5R against a Kenwood radio that cost about 10x what the boofwang costs. I ran several tests using a GWInstek GSP-630 spectrum analyzer and my tests showed virtually no difference on the analyzer. Further, I did not see any harmonics transmitted from either radio. BTW, as a happy ham operator - I loves your videos.
I have 2 uv5r's and 2 uvx3's and a Kenwood TH-D74A. Only difference is the Kenwood's output is higher on all 3 bands on said baofengs. Getting into the repeater(s) with all of them on 2m, 440cm and the 220 (1.25m) resulted in same so "they" said. On simplex the Kenwood beats all 4 Baofengs big time. UV5R's are decent radios for what they are. I'm a happy ham and a happy GMRS user. We'll talk Randy into being a happy Tech ham sooner or later. Maybe even a General or even an Extra ;-) haha
@@BobBruns Well, I somehow doubt that Randy will take that plunge :) Like you, I also have a GMRS license. Funny that you mention the TH-D74, that is the radio that I tested the UV5R against! I use that radio for packet, too bad the boofwangs don't have digital built in. But what does one expect from a $25 radio :)
@@Codyjrt Yep - the UVs are great utility radios. I can buy 3 of them for what the replacement battery for my Kenwood costs. I love my Chinese "junk" radios :)
One evening while on a walk, I was attacked by spurious emissions. It jumped the fence of a residence where some guy was using his UV-5R to talk on a GMRS channel. Luckily, I was armed and dispatched the spurious emissions before it could do any harm.
Baofeng RF Shield, similar technology you find in Star Wars, but with Baofeng brand name. Only downside, because it's Baofeng, Shield technology isn't as effective as the Star Wars brand.
Ironically, I am *literally* an "expert". That is, I'm a lead test technician for a major aerospace contractor. I work in a lab that does electromagnetic interference testing. If you would like, we could hook up and I could officially document and quantify the dreaded spurious emissions from your evil Baufeng UV-5R and put all this silliness to rest. Hit me up on PM if you're interested.
@@mikesimpson6757 *Lead* Technician, there is a big difference. And yeah, I work with some of the best engineers and techs in the field. The engineers specify the test limits, work with the programs to hash out their needs, and signs off the paperwork. The techs are the ones who conduct the tests. I'm the guy who specifies the test setups, irons out the bugs, and works with the programs to find fixes for their failures. I live in that gray area where I wear both hats. I'm completely capable of doing the entire process on my own which only lead techs can do, and I have access to an entire EMI lab full of calibrated test equipment for free. It's not a bad offer for $0.00 not including shipping. :)
Ex-pilot here. Only spurious emission that ever affected flying was an actual FM music station that had some issues and managed to step on ATC frequency. We were never at risk as there are "No Radio" (NORDO) procedures for that occurrence. Your cell phone puts out way more spurious emissions than most radios would..we could hear it on our headsets any time someone's phone was about to ring.
I second that. I work in an EMI lab, and I have to regularly tell everyone within 50' of our EMI receiver to put their cellphones into airplane mode whenever we're scanning the 200 MHz to 1 GHz range. That crap bleeds right into our receivers through the display and ruins our scan. It's happened so often that I can tell which provider the offending phone is using. Wi-fi modems and LED light bulbs are also major offenders. I'm pretty sure any of these culprits dump out more spurious emissions than a little cheap Chinese handheld radio.
Love the entertaining and informative videos here! And Randy trolling/baiting the trolls is icing on the cake, and makes for humorous "pinned" comments!
As licensed ham for a number of minutes and occasional radio technician I will check your Baofeng with a spectrum analyzer for out of spec harmonics, advise you of the ramifications of my findings, and send you on your way to do as you will. My job is done at that point. BTW, your RE20 sounds great!
“Four fried chickens and a coke.” “You want chicken wings or chicken legs, honey” “Four fried CHICKENS… and a coke.” “And some dry white toast, please.”
Now that was funny thank you. Yes the radio was a little high on the harmonics vs the requirements but it was fixed once they add some filtering. The hoopla was created at the Dayton Hamfest when they tested the radios people were carrying and published are report. It showed the Baofeng was a little to high and needed filtering. That later came with the certified radios we have today. PS I have one and it works and no one knows its a little too high on the harmonics.
been playing with radio for a few years, watched a ton of your videos and have learned a lot from you. i am looking at my vairous 70cm radios over a rtl sdr device and my uv5rs, that are maybe 4 years old, have bad spurious emisions. one of my cheif concerns is that i am wasting power broadcasting on frequencies that i am not intending to, and based on the data on the screen is seems like maybe most of the power is wasted on spurious emissions, but this is all still kinda new to me
Generally the spurious emissions work two ways. What stops these emissions is usuallh a band pass filter, which also filters out incoming transmission noise too.
I’ve been a ham radio operator for 3 months (which means I’m the expert) and can verify that my uv5r have caused interference with alien spacecraft all the way to other planets. Also, I have read the entire Internet. Considering how it practically seems to be the norm for a ham to start off with a uv5r, I imagine these radios have done far more good for the hobby than bad. Also, is sad ham possible for a vanity?
I've been a ham radio operator for (insert impressive number of years here), and I want to warn everyone! My wife cheated on me with a spurious emission and gave me a Baofeng Transmission Disease. The danger is real, stay safe out there!
"Radio Karens".....priceless.Said it before, I know very little about radios and other than a mild curiosity...I'm uninterested, however this show is informative, intriguing and entertaining beyond belief. I can almost hear the steam escaping from the sad hams ears during your videos. It's odd though...on one hand the "experts" call the U5R weak, underpowered and insignificant but on the other hand they claim every time you key up on one of these things the earth stops rotating, dogs and cats get along and another ham suffers from ED. Good stuff...keep it coming.
Now I’ll need to remember safety goggles when operating my bufwang to protect my eye sockets from the spurious rf ejaculations. Thanks for the heads up!!!!
If Ham Radio is to make a revival in popularity and use, it will be because of this channel and the joy it brings. Those radio operators will have to be called Randies instead of hams though.
I’m a very happy ham, but have never claimed to be an expert. Personally I think the baofengs (and similar) radios have cleaned up their act since first launched. What I pay more attention to is the suppression of harmonics. Even the big boys get this wrong occasionally!
Maybe these spurious signals from Chinese radios are sending the same signal to spurious repeaters. Nm, that’s silly. Thank you for your channel, you’ve helped guide my radio journey!
I am a new ham with a UV-5R. I have had some older sader hams give me dirty looks. Overall, I don't care, and if they do. I am okay with them giving me or purchasing equipment for me. :P
I have had several interferences from spurious emissions while browsing the Internet. Usually it comes in the form of the emission Causing me to order more radio gear. “ I swear I didn’t mean to order it! I tried to click the back button to stop looking at it, but the spurious emissions from all those cheap Chinese radios moved the mouse cursor to the order now button and filled out my PayPal info!” My wife doesn’t believe me.
Sir I am highly insulted that you question that I am a expert, I've made ham sandwiches all my life and the correct order is, bread, mustard or mayo, cheese, ham, tomato(never on top makes bread wet), lettuce, pickle optional. That's how all of the expert hams do it. Nothing spurious about that. I ate ham sandwich while watching your video............Thank You, love your videos
Here is a quick and easy test anyone can perform to see if their Baofeng (or other radio) is guilty of transmitting 'spurious RF emissions'! 1. Start with two radios, preferably some distance apart (ask a friend to help) 2. Configure Radio 'A' to use frequency 146.5200 Mhz 3. Configure Radio 'B' to use frequency 146.5200 Mhz 4. Transmit (PTT) from Radio 'A' and observe the signal received on Radio 'B' 5. Configure Radio 'B' to use frequency 439.5600 Mhz (3rd Harmonic) 6. Transmit (PTT) from Radio 'A' and observe the signal received on Radio 'B' If you heard the Radio 'A' transmission on Radio 'B' in step 6, this is very bad! This reveals that Radio 'A' is transmitting on Multiple Frequencies every time the PTT button is pressed. If you have a scanner or SDR radio, you can also test the 2nd Harmonic (293.0400 Mhz), 4th Harmonic (586.0800 Mhz) and 5th Harmonic (732.6000 Mhz) to verify that your Baofeng is transmitting on no less than 5 seperate frequencies every time you use the PTT button! These are not inconsequential static RF emissions, this is your voice being simultaneously transmitted loud and clear across multiple frequencies and bands! Repeat this simple test with all of your radios. Which radios do not exhibit this poor behavior? Hey Randy! Pleae do a follow up video and show us your Baofeng test results! (BTW, Baofeng are not the only radios that fail this test)
Andy, that's a great idea for a do-it-yourself test. If you start with the radios next to each other and you verify the 'spurious' signal is present on 439.56 and then walk away with one radio and see how far apart the radios need to get before you can't hear that spurious signal. That will give you a very clear understanding of how low power that spurious signal is and how close you have to be to even hear it. Hey Randy, all you need is one of those ham radio friends of yours to legally key the transmitter and you can walk away with the receiver and you have another video to put on youtube. I'm getting excited to see the results.
OMG... I just realized.... The Baofeng is a Chinese radio and Randy meeting with a Ham to help with this test is like Nixon going to China in 1972. After all, the sad hams act just as authoritarian as the Chinese Communist Party, don't you think? The world has now come around to a complete circle.
I don't have a Chris-530 to help me out with radio Fars testing so I had to ask my friend Pete. He just reported losing the spurious signal at 91 feet away from the first Baofeng. We will be repeating this test several times to make sure there were no mistakes and if any of you would like to try a test of your own please report your results here by submitting a comment.
I have to say, I have owned 7 Baofeng amateur radios; 3 mobiles and 4 handhelds. (also had 1 mobile GMRS radio that was 'ok') I think the amateur mobiles are trash, since every one of mine had catastrophic failure within days of install... but even with the minor spurs on the HT's (which amount to almost nothing... just measurable) their handhelds have been pretty awesome for the price.
The most dangerous thing about a UV5R is poking yourself in the eye with the antenna. The second most dangerous thing is poking yourself in the other eye. The actual danger from these radios is the battery packs. The reason I have a Wouxun HT with no battery is because the battery I had for it shorted out and began trying to catch on fire, and a rapid disassembly took place to stop that. The reason I have a UV5R now is because buying a whole new radio was cheaper than getting a new battery for the Wouxun. The UV5R ended up being a better radio anyway. But anything with a battery is potentially dangerous. It is a risk we all accept with our phones and watches and other gadgets.
I know this is an older video, but if you are worried about spurious emissions, but still want a baofeng, take a look at the baofeng gt-5r. It's the same size and shape of the uv5r, but is FCC compliant.
one time 3 people were near joshua tree in turtle killing off road vehicles and they accidently key the talk button on 3 baofung radio at the same time simultaneously and THAT caused the magic that makes planes fly to end for a moment. look it up!
Thank you for making this video. Every time I keyed my boofwang, I was certain that kittens, the world wide, were exploding into clouds of cat guts. (Remember Bill the Cat?).
Not a safety issue, but a poor quality or damaged transmitter that transmits "large" amounts of energy on the harmonics of the intended frequency will reduce the effectiveness of your radio, since the 4-5 watts is being spread out over each of the frequencies. This could mean that 50% or more of your power lost as a result
With all the hash that computers, microprocessor controlled gadgets, even modern washing machines put out, I doubt you could pick out the spurs from the radio.
That's what I thought. just another scary story of the FCC banging on the door in the middle of the night. now I wonder if they (sad hams) try to find the worst radio or alter the tests just to make those little lovable affordable radios look bad? Randy ever heard of the AR 63 (Abbree) radio? they have a learn ability so they can be set to a channel that another radio is transmitting on. with no wires, or settings. (aka TXQ G63)
Those experts are right!!! I have a new uv9r and I saw spurious emissions come out of it!!! Maybe that's because it's 400 watts 😳 it's kind of frightening to use. I think it's electronics in general though because I once saw sound come out of my tv!!!! That was about a half hour after eating a chocolate chip/marijuana butter cookie though....lmfao
Back in the old days, if you ever had a problem with spurious emissions, then you could just go see the doctor and get a shot to clear it up. Nowadays, you got to be careful. There's stuff going around that a shot won't fix.
@NotaRubicon Hi, I am new into hobby and learning a lot from your YT series (subscribed). I will try to stay on topic, would be great to have someone with spectrum analyzer on the show comparing cheap Baofan with more expensive Yaesu for example, like one of the commentators did. However, I have another question since I am learning and I might be doing something wrong or bad at googling. I got myself Baofang UV-5R and blocked (how I found your YT channel) TX on both UHF and VHF until I get a license, so mostly using it for listening. I have also legal in Europe 0.5W PMR frequency walkie-takies from French company called Decathlon (cheap store for sports equipment). When I transmit using these walkie-talkies I can hear on the other one from the pair voice clear on just one channel (no CTCSS or DSC I turned those off) meanwhile on Baofang UV-5R I hear myself bleeding to 1-2 channels around the actual channel I am transmitting on. Both channels A and B are set to the same frequency 1 channel lower than I am transmitting on. For example I transmit on channel 7, but I hear myself on Baofang on channel 7 clearly and pretty clear also on channel 6. Why is that because both receiving channels I set to the same channel. When I step both A/B to even lower channel I stop hearing myself. On the PMR walkie-takie this does not happen and I am not using any tones. Thank for explanation ! Maybe it's something trivial or maybe some commenter can respond!
It's such a great visual as well. Everyone knows that droopy hat, the brown safari jacket, etc... if only there were a Sad Ham equivalent. Maybe it's white New Balance 550's and an un-ironic trucker hat?
If your local emergency services have a radio network that is vulnerable to interference from the spurs of a 5W handset, your city has bigger problems anyway.
The fine people at Baufeng have put out a new version named GT-5R which ... does NOT ... have ... spurious emissions. (Note: I tried to write this as if you were speaking it.)
A couple weeks ago my toilet backed up, and I couldn't figure out why............then I found out that not even 24 hrs earlier my neighbor had keyed up his Boo-Fwang UV5R!!! Turns out them evil spurious emissions are more dangerous than we thought! Oh.....and BTW... "Evil Spurious Emissions" sounds like a horror porn movie.
I keyed up a uvr5 approximately 100 ft from a Transformer it blew it another 200 ft through the air went through the roof of my neighbor's house and Burn It to the Ground
Spurious RF emissions is BS in radios like the Baofengs. Most of the time people are traveling/moving around with these radios, so the chance if disturbing anything is as good as zero.
I've been into radio communications for 20 years. I have a few radio buddies that died of cancer. I wonder if this had anything to do with the fat boy/ davemade amps in close proximity to their bodies. Can you tell me is this even possible? Does the emission come from the antenna or the radio/ amp itself?
Jimmy, I have seen no reputable research studies that have linked radio waves to cancer. Not one single study. However, Radio waves when absorbed will generate heat. That's how dummy loads work. Its also how microwave ovens work to heat food but they are a thousand Watts. Baofeng radios are 5 Watt transmitters and the Spurious emissions are micro Watts.
Easy to tell using an SDR. Not to look for emissions though. All you do is grab a copy of SDRTrunk and tune into your local P25 system, and then key up and listen to how none of them give a shit
On a more serious note, in my office I walked around testing everything I could find and you know what puts out about 14x as much interference as my radio on ham frequencies? The LED lights in the building.
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I am not a sad ham, but a happy one :) I too, own a few UV5R radios as well as a couple of high dollar Kenwood/Yaesu radios. I recently tested a UV5R against a Kenwood radio that cost about 10x what the boofwang costs. I ran several tests using a GWInstek GSP-630 spectrum analyzer and my tests showed virtually no difference on the analyzer. Further, I did not see any harmonics transmitted from either radio. BTW, as a happy ham operator - I loves your videos.
I have 2 uv5r's and 2 uvx3's and a Kenwood TH-D74A. Only difference is the Kenwood's output is higher on all 3 bands on said baofengs. Getting into the repeater(s) with all of them on 2m, 440cm and the 220 (1.25m) resulted in same so "they" said. On simplex the Kenwood beats all 4 Baofengs big time. UV5R's are decent radios for what they are. I'm a happy ham and a happy GMRS user. We'll talk Randy into being a happy Tech ham sooner or later. Maybe even a General or even an Extra ;-) haha
@@BobBruns Well, I somehow doubt that Randy will take that plunge :) Like you, I also have a GMRS license. Funny that you mention the TH-D74, that is the radio that I tested the UV5R against! I use that radio for packet, too bad the boofwangs don't have digital built in. But what does one expect from a $25 radio :)
@@SGMPhil With what he knows now, no doubt he could pass the Tech. But ya you're probably correct he will not give in haha
@@Codyjrt Yep - the UVs are great utility radios. I can buy 3 of them for what the replacement battery for my Kenwood costs. I love my Chinese "junk" radios :)
I only had spurious emissions when I was in my teens. I learned to control them with experience.
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One evening while on a walk, I was attacked by spurious emissions. It jumped the fence of a residence where some guy was using his UV-5R to talk on a GMRS channel. Luckily, I was armed and dispatched the spurious emissions before it could do any harm.
what were u armed with?
a baofeng?
Baofeng RF Shield, similar technology you find in Star Wars, but with Baofeng brand name. Only downside, because it's Baofeng, Shield technology isn't as effective as the Star Wars brand.
I sometimes suffer from spurious emissions but using probiotics usually fixes that problem.
My dear I feel your pain
I need to try some probiotics, then! 💪🥛
Thanks for a good laugh…. If I have Burger King, my spurious emissions could literally take down a passenger jet. LOL.
I'm fine after eating oatmeal with flaxseed and fruit each night, no more spurious emissions.
Ironically, I am *literally* an "expert". That is, I'm a lead test technician for a major aerospace contractor. I work in a lab that does electromagnetic interference testing. If you would like, we could hook up and I could officially document and quantify the dreaded spurious emissions from your evil Baufeng UV-5R and put all this silliness to rest. Hit me up on PM if you're interested.
John barnes is that you
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Test Technician, but not an engineer. 🤔
Be careful that Mars Rover might get destroyed.
@@mikesimpson6757 *Lead* Technician, there is a big difference. And yeah, I work with some of the best engineers and techs in the field.
The engineers specify the test limits, work with the programs to hash out their needs, and signs off the paperwork. The techs are the ones who conduct the tests. I'm the guy who specifies the test setups, irons out the bugs, and works with the programs to find fixes for their failures.
I live in that gray area where I wear both hats. I'm completely capable of doing the entire process on my own which only lead techs can do, and I have access to an entire EMI lab full of calibrated test equipment for free.
It's not a bad offer for $0.00 not including shipping. :)
Your videos never get old. Whenever the air quotes come out, I know I'm going to be edutained.
Ex-pilot here. Only spurious emission that ever affected flying was an actual FM music station that had some issues and managed to step on ATC frequency. We were never at risk as there are "No Radio" (NORDO) procedures for that occurrence. Your cell phone puts out way more spurious emissions than most radios would..we could hear it on our headsets any time someone's phone was about to ring.
Yea, i remember hearing the interference on my radio when the cell phone was about to ring.
Was that the 3G network?
I second that. I work in an EMI lab, and I have to regularly tell everyone within 50' of our EMI receiver to put their cellphones into airplane mode whenever we're scanning the 200 MHz to 1 GHz range. That crap bleeds right into our receivers through the display and ruins our scan. It's happened so often that I can tell which provider the offending phone is using.
Wi-fi modems and LED light bulbs are also major offenders. I'm pretty sure any of these culprits dump out more spurious emissions than a little cheap Chinese handheld radio.
The Baofeng antenna isn’t tuned to those spurs, so chances are good they barely radiate more than a few yards.
That's it. I'm not buying a radio that emits in my eye! Thank you for the warning.
Tell me that UV-5R gave Randy the Money Shot; I work at the VA Hospital and laughed so Damn Hard people were staring for what seemed like hours!
I love this channel! I just recently found this channel since getting back into radios. Don't ever change how you do your videos!
I’m 30yr old and have been a ham operator for the last 169yr. I approve of the Baofeng UV-5R.
Love the entertaining and informative videos here! And Randy trolling/baiting the trolls is icing on the cake, and makes for humorous "pinned" comments!
First thing I check when I see one of his videos. I am sometimes sad to see noyhing pinned.
@@crashtke Same here!
As licensed ham for a number of minutes and occasional radio technician I will check your Baofeng with a spectrum analyzer for out of spec harmonics, advise you of the ramifications of my findings, and send you on your way to do as you will. My job is done at that point. BTW, your RE20 sounds great!
Thanks to you and all your great info I had my first repeater radio communications.
I'm pretty sure spurious emissions are how I ended up with 2 kids...
“Four fried chickens and a coke.”
“You want chicken wings or chicken legs, honey”
“Four fried CHICKENS… and a coke.”
“And some dry white toast, please.”
There's a couple white boys out there dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants...
@@GoSlash27 what they wanna eat?
Classic 😂
Sounds like a non issue. If the emissions are measured in microwatts, nobody will notice them. Thanks for another great video!
I laughed so hard when you keyed up your 8 year old Baofeng, I nearly wet myself!
Luckily there was a nearby tree and I had a spurious emission.
Now that was funny thank you. Yes the radio was a little high on the harmonics vs the requirements but it was fixed once they add some filtering. The hoopla was created at the Dayton Hamfest when they tested the radios people were carrying and published are report. It showed the Baofeng was a little to high and needed filtering. That later came with the certified radios we have today. PS I have one and it works and no one knows its a little too high on the harmonics.
Sad ham Alert!!!
been playing with radio for a few years, watched a ton of your videos and have learned a lot from you. i am looking at my vairous 70cm radios over a rtl sdr device and my uv5rs, that are maybe 4 years old, have bad spurious emisions. one of my cheif concerns is that i am wasting power broadcasting on frequencies that i am not intending to, and based on the data on the screen is seems like maybe most of the power is wasted on spurious emissions, but this is all still kinda new to me
You can take the radio to most Hamfests to test, if you don't have a spectrum analyzer and attenuators. Great post. Keep sticking it to hams like me!
You are so funny! Love the videos. Learning a lot, I even got a GRMS license to add to my HAM license just because I watched your videos.
/me_wife: why do you keep giggling?
/me: oh, uh nothing.
[dude says boof wang again]
/me_wife: why do you keep giggling?!?!?
I am not worried about spurious rf emission from my uv5r. Great explaination as always Randy. Keep up the good work.
When I drink milk I get unwanted spurious emissions at channel #2. Your videos are awesome, Thank you
One of them spurious squirts, will shut down my PC if I transmit next to it. Interesting stuff
I've been a Ham for 50 years or more. I also had a 1st class Commercial License. The UV5R meets FCC minimum requirements to be imported
Generally the spurious emissions work two ways.
What stops these emissions is usuallh a band pass filter, which also filters out incoming transmission noise too.
I’ve been a ham radio operator for 3 months (which means I’m the expert) and can verify that my uv5r have caused interference with alien spacecraft all the way to other planets. Also, I have read the entire Internet.
Considering how it practically seems to be the norm for a ham to start off with a uv5r, I imagine these radios have done far more good for the hobby than bad. Also, is sad ham possible for a vanity?
I've been a ham radio operator for (insert impressive number of years here), and I want to warn everyone! My wife cheated on me with a spurious emission and gave me a Baofeng Transmission Disease. The danger is real, stay safe out there!
I was spurriassed in the alley just yesterday.
In an upside down world you are a right side up spot. Carry on! 😁
Great info as always, Thanks, Randy.
"Radio Karens".....priceless.Said it before, I know very little about radios and other than a mild curiosity...I'm uninterested, however this show is informative, intriguing and entertaining beyond belief. I can almost hear the steam escaping from the sad hams ears during your videos. It's odd though...on one hand the "experts" call the U5R weak, underpowered and insignificant but on the other hand they claim every time you key up on one of these things the earth stops rotating, dogs and cats get along and another ham suffers from ED. Good stuff...keep it coming.
Now I’ll need to remember safety goggles when operating my bufwang to protect my eye sockets from the spurious rf ejaculations. Thanks for the heads up!!!!
That coffee mug is really funny. 😁☕
If Ham Radio is to make a revival in popularity and use, it will be because of this channel and the joy it brings. Those radio operators will have to be called Randies instead of hams though.
I’m a very happy ham, but have never claimed to be an expert. Personally I think the baofengs (and similar) radios have cleaned up their act since first launched. What I pay more attention to is the suppression of harmonics. Even the big boys get this wrong occasionally!
I Choked on my sammich when he keyed up his radio
Maybe these spurious signals from Chinese radios are sending the same signal to spurious repeaters. Nm, that’s silly. Thank you for your channel, you’ve helped guide my radio journey!
I am a new ham with a UV-5R. I have had some older sader hams give me dirty looks. Overall, I don't care, and if they do. I am okay with them giving me or purchasing equipment for me. :P
I have had several interferences from spurious emissions while browsing the Internet. Usually it comes in the form of the emission Causing me to order more radio gear. “ I swear I didn’t mean to order it! I tried to click the back button to stop looking at it, but the spurious emissions from all those cheap Chinese radios moved the mouse cursor to the order now button and filled out my PayPal info!”
My wife doesn’t believe me.
Sir I am highly insulted that you question that I am a expert, I've made ham sandwiches all my life and the correct order is, bread, mustard or mayo, cheese, ham, tomato(never on top makes bread wet), lettuce, pickle optional. That's how all of the expert hams do it. Nothing spurious about that.
I ate ham sandwich while watching your video............Thank You, love your videos
That video was 17 "spurious RF emissions" good!
When my spurious’s go jingle jangle jingle!🎶
Here is a quick and easy test anyone can perform to see if their Baofeng (or other radio) is guilty of transmitting 'spurious RF emissions'!
1. Start with two radios, preferably some distance apart (ask a friend to help)
2. Configure Radio 'A' to use frequency 146.5200 Mhz
3. Configure Radio 'B' to use frequency 146.5200 Mhz
4. Transmit (PTT) from Radio 'A' and observe the signal received on Radio 'B'
5. Configure Radio 'B' to use frequency 439.5600 Mhz (3rd Harmonic)
6. Transmit (PTT) from Radio 'A' and observe the signal received on Radio 'B'
If you heard the Radio 'A' transmission on Radio 'B' in step 6, this is very bad!
This reveals that Radio 'A' is transmitting on Multiple Frequencies every time the PTT button is pressed.
If you have a scanner or SDR radio, you can also test the 2nd Harmonic (293.0400 Mhz), 4th Harmonic (586.0800 Mhz) and 5th Harmonic (732.6000 Mhz) to verify that your Baofeng is transmitting on no less than 5 seperate frequencies every time you use the PTT button!
These are not inconsequential static RF emissions, this is your voice being simultaneously transmitted loud and clear across multiple frequencies and bands!
Repeat this simple test with all of your radios.
Which radios do not exhibit this poor behavior?
Hey Randy! Pleae do a follow up video and show us your Baofeng test results! (BTW, Baofeng are not the only radios that fail this test)
Andy, that's a great idea for a do-it-yourself test. If you start with the radios next to each other and you verify the 'spurious' signal is present on 439.56 and then walk away with one radio and see how far apart the radios need to get before you can't hear that spurious signal. That will give you a very clear understanding of how low power that spurious signal is and how close you have to be to even hear it. Hey Randy, all you need is one of those ham radio friends of yours to legally key the transmitter and you can walk away with the receiver and you have another video to put on youtube. I'm getting excited to see the results.
OMG... I just realized.... The Baofeng is a Chinese radio and Randy meeting with a Ham to help with this test is like Nixon going to China in 1972. After all, the sad hams act just as authoritarian as the Chinese Communist Party, don't you think? The world has now come around to a complete circle.
I don't have a Chris-530 to help me out with radio Fars testing so I had to ask my friend Pete. He just reported losing the spurious signal at 91 feet away from the first Baofeng. We will be repeating this test several times to make sure there were no mistakes and if any of you would like to try a test of your own please report your results here by submitting a comment.
@@craigdavidson2977 I will do some of that testing this weekend - I have a couple dozen radios to test!
@@craigdavidson2977 I forgot, Randy cant push the button for non-GMRS frequencies :(
I have disagreed with your information in the past but I really like this one. BTW let me know if an airliner falls from the sky.......lol
If I key up my Baofeng in the middle of the night is that a nocturnal emission?
I have to say, I have owned 7 Baofeng amateur radios; 3 mobiles and 4 handhelds. (also had 1 mobile GMRS radio that was 'ok') I think the amateur mobiles are trash, since every one of mine had catastrophic failure within days of install... but even with the minor spurs on the HT's (which amount to almost nothing... just measurable) their handhelds have been pretty awesome for the price.
40+ Years ago, I was obsessed with Spurious emissions. Thank goodness for locks on bathroom doors.
The most dangerous thing about a UV5R is poking yourself in the eye with the antenna. The second most dangerous thing is poking yourself in the other eye. The actual danger from these radios is the battery packs. The reason I have a Wouxun HT with no battery is because the battery I had for it shorted out and began trying to catch on fire, and a rapid disassembly took place to stop that. The reason I have a UV5R now is because buying a whole new radio was cheaper than getting a new battery for the Wouxun. The UV5R ended up being a better radio anyway. But anything with a battery is potentially dangerous. It is a risk we all accept with our phones and watches and other gadgets.
That was one huge spurious truth facial. That old Baofang must have missed you...
I love to hear your videos. I think they are funny as the comedy podcasts. Especially when one of those spurious signals hit you in the video
I'm a happy ham wanna be. Appreciate the education
I know this is an older video, but if you are worried about spurious emissions, but still want a baofeng, take a look at the baofeng gt-5r. It's the same size and shape of the uv5r, but is FCC compliant.
Isnt there a pill for spurious emissions? Thanks Randy for the great content!!
one time 3 people were near joshua tree in turtle killing off road vehicles and they accidently key the talk button on 3 baofung radio at the same time simultaneously and THAT caused the magic that makes planes fly to end for a moment. look it up!
I tapped the talk button on my Baofeng radio once and almost brought down the entire ISS satellite.
just dont hit the siren while on police or fire radio station
it will fart out all kinds of evil emmitions and all hell will break loose
We all have a spurious transmission once in a while. It’s all about what we do in the refractory period after such a happening that makes the man.
Isnt that how BABY BooFwangs are conceived?
I have noticed that the mockingbird that sits outside my window has learned a new song, could it be from a spurious transmission he has received?
👍🏼 Love it.😀
Spurious rf emissions. I was told this at a ham meeting.
Thank you for making this video. Every time I keyed my boofwang, I was certain that kittens, the world wide, were exploding into clouds of cat guts. (Remember Bill the Cat?).
Not a safety issue, but a poor quality or damaged transmitter that transmits "large" amounts of energy on the harmonics of the intended frequency will reduce the effectiveness of your radio, since the 4-5 watts is being spread out over each of the frequencies. This could mean that 50% or more of your power lost as a result
With all the hash that computers, microprocessor controlled gadgets, even modern washing machines put out, I doubt you could pick out the spurs from the radio.
Hi you are a hoot keep it up bro
Thank you!
The Baofeng is the Raspberry Pi of the radio world, and both are saving their respective hobbies. Hail Lord Xenu
Oh heck. I guess I better stop using mine then lol! My house is in the flight path of the airport a couple miles away.
That's what I thought. just another scary story of the FCC banging on the door in the middle of the night. now I wonder if they (sad hams) try to find the worst radio or alter the tests just to make those little lovable affordable radios look bad? Randy ever heard of the AR 63 (Abbree) radio? they have a learn ability so they can be set to a channel that another radio is transmitting on. with no wires, or settings. (aka TXQ G63)
Those experts are right!!! I have a new uv9r and I saw spurious emissions come out of it!!! Maybe that's because it's 400 watts 😳 it's kind of frightening to use. I think it's electronics in general though because I once saw sound come out of my tv!!!! That was about a half hour after eating a chocolate chip/marijuana butter cookie though....lmfao
Back in the old days, if you ever had a problem with spurious emissions, then you could just go see the doctor and get a shot to clear it up. Nowadays, you got to be careful. There's stuff going around that a shot won't fix.
Have you ever counted the radios behind you? How many is it?
Heck most pole running around with cell phone cigarette lighter chargers are most.likely putting out spurious emissions worse that a hf radio.
vapes?
I love you will you bear my children? I do have that exact shirt!
WOW! Not one "expert" made any comment, HMMM............. You go you little UV5R, you go!!!!!!!
They are currently formulating " " " " EXPERT " " " " commentary. It'll eventually get here.
They are meeting at Dunkin Donuts as we speak to gather evidence to once again voice their useless opinions
@00:50 now I am frightened!
I wonder who's gonna get the pin today. Oh the suspense! :D
This is the operate without a license (only in an emergency), transmit without an antenna, and now, don’t worry about spurious emissions channel.
Most people call it the "calling-out Sad Ham's lies channel".. But, whatever works for you..
@@TheNotaRubicon Me and my friends call it the "common sense" channel.
I have gaseous emissions sometimes. Not sure if they’re spurious.
@NotaRubicon Hi, I am new into hobby and learning a lot from your YT series (subscribed). I will try to stay on topic, would be great to have someone with spectrum analyzer on the show comparing cheap Baofan with more expensive Yaesu for example, like one of the commentators did. However, I have another question since I am learning and I might be doing something wrong or bad at googling. I got myself Baofang UV-5R and blocked (how I found your YT channel) TX on both UHF and VHF until I get a license, so mostly using it for listening. I have also legal in Europe 0.5W PMR frequency walkie-takies from French company called Decathlon (cheap store for sports equipment). When I transmit using these walkie-talkies I can hear on the other one from the pair voice clear on just one channel (no CTCSS or DSC I turned those off) meanwhile on Baofang UV-5R I hear myself bleeding to 1-2 channels around the actual channel I am transmitting on. Both channels A and B are set to the same frequency 1 channel lower than I am transmitting on. For example I transmit on channel 7, but I hear myself on Baofang on channel 7 clearly and pretty clear also on channel 6. Why is that because both receiving channels I set to the same channel. When I step both A/B to even lower channel I stop hearing myself. On the PMR walkie-takie this does not happen and I am not using any tones. Thank for explanation ! Maybe it's something trivial or maybe some commenter can respond!
Where is sad ham? I haven't seen him on your videos for a long time....I kinda miss him.
In the pew pew community those “experts” are known as FUDDS
It's such a great visual as well. Everyone knows that droopy hat, the brown safari jacket, etc... if only there were a Sad Ham equivalent. Maybe it's white New Balance 550's and an un-ironic trucker hat?
If your local emergency services have a radio network that is vulnerable to interference from the spurs of a 5W handset, your city has bigger problems anyway.
The fine people at Baufeng have put out a new version named GT-5R which ... does NOT ... have ... spurious emissions. (Note: I tried to write this as if you were speaking it.)
A couple weeks ago my toilet backed up, and I couldn't figure out why............then I found out that not even 24 hrs earlier my neighbor had keyed up his Boo-Fwang UV5R!!! Turns out them evil spurious emissions are more dangerous than we thought! Oh.....and BTW... "Evil Spurious Emissions" sounds like a horror porn movie.
poltergyeste the revenge of the evil baofeng fruit
I keyed up a uvr5 approximately 100 ft from a Transformer it blew it another 200 ft through the air went through the roof of my neighbor's house and Burn It to the Ground
I used a uv5r to trip gfi outlets.
My Spurious Emissions got me kicked out of the Gentlemen's Club...
Spurious RF emissions is BS in radios like the Baofengs. Most of the time people are traveling/moving around with these radios, so the chance if disturbing anything is as good as zero.
same goes for those .5w personal fm transmitters for your house
as long as you dont step on anyone and dont put cuss word songs on noone will care.
Wondered why my pacemaker skips a beat when.🤣
Nice...............
I've been into radio communications for 20 years. I have a few radio buddies that died of cancer. I wonder if this had anything to do with the fat boy/ davemade amps in close proximity to their bodies.
Can you tell me is this even possible?
Does the emission come from the antenna or the radio/ amp itself?
Jimmy, I have seen no reputable research studies that have linked radio waves to cancer. Not one single study. However, Radio waves when absorbed will generate heat. That's how dummy loads work. Its also how microwave ovens work to heat food but they are a thousand Watts. Baofeng radios are 5 Watt transmitters and the Spurious emissions are micro Watts.
My uv 5r burns the hell out of my hand if I hold it wrong and push to ptt buttom.
I drank an entire bottle of Maalox and the problem went away. 🙈
Jesus.... I'm still laughing my ass off.... Love your videos man
Everytime I use my uv5r, a plane fall down...
Easy to tell using an SDR. Not to look for emissions though. All you do is grab a copy of SDRTrunk and tune into your local P25 system, and then key up and listen to how none of them give a shit
On a more serious note, in my office I walked around testing everything I could find and you know what puts out about 14x as much interference as my radio on ham frequencies? The LED lights in the building.
@@amberselectronics thought for sure it would be the laser printer for sure
now I am seccond guessing if I should put up that new fancy shop light or not if it will give off unwanted speratic ejaculations
Explanation of Expert....... X is the unknown Integer....... Spurt is a drip, under pressure. Therefore an EXPERT Is........... an Unknown drip, under pressure. Your Welcome!