The Tragedy of Metal Gear Survive

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  • @Jack_Uza
    @Jack_Uza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1909

    Always remember we only lost episode 51, chapter 3, a possible sequel for Rising and a game about The Boss for this and pachinko machines.

    • @lazerktulu2693
      @lazerktulu2693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      My God, i didn't even knew we lost THAT much. Now, I want Konami to give the rights to Kojima even more. Though that will never happen.

    • @vipset87
      @vipset87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      a game about the boss would've been interesting

    • @keybladeslashw900
      @keybladeslashw900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Definitely worth it

    • @perlosia
      @perlosia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@lazerktulu2693 Tbh I think Kojima is happy to do something other than MGS, he did it for 20 years and now he can do other things...

    • @bigcade554
      @bigcade554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      A game about The Boss would be lame imo. It's better to leave that period of MGS lore as lore. And Chapter 3 is literally just a post game, it's not what everyone convinced themselves it was. The only actual cut content for MGSV was mission 51 and the ability to control the Battle Gear (cut for being too OP).
      People need to accept the game was released largely as intended, the "unfinished" feeling was Kojima being meta so the players could feel a "phantom pain". This was confirmed by the writer of the movelisation, who also helped write the game, and Death Stranding, so it's as close to Kojima saying it himself as possible.

  • @sebastiangreenan1774
    @sebastiangreenan1774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1585

    "Have you ever heard the tragedy of Metal Gear Survive?"
    "No."
    "It's not a legend Konami would tell you."

    • @williamlydon2554
      @williamlydon2554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Beat me to the joke 🤗

    • @t.r.2283
      @t.r.2283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I love how people bash konami for right reasons buuut forget to mention what happens if the big stars go solo and than create a ups walking simulator

    • @coreymckee4844
      @coreymckee4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alifayazi9496 legend? Lol yeah that line dont fit MG Survive.🤣 it dont deserve that honor.

    • @JohnStewart223
      @JohnStewart223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darth plagues would be so proud

    • @kieranrollinson8750
      @kieranrollinson8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too complicated. I actually had to THINK about what you were referencing. :D :D

  • @Hi_Just_Fred
    @Hi_Just_Fred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +653

    So Konami purposefully neutered their production staff for the game out of paranoia that they'd "Make another Kojima."
    Wow, just wow Konami.

    • @kummakummakummakummakummac8606
      @kummakummakummakummakummac8606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I know right. I don't even know what to say to that.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Disgusting. This proves there's a narcissist at the helm who hates Kojima and wanted to take over the company. I'm going with BASTARD YOTA, though CUNNING YUJI is quite specific toward a takeover attempt. Either way, this was a backstabbing of creative minds and their legacy. In a pursuit of coin, the death of a legendary developer.

    • @ShivaM-dc4xe
      @ShivaM-dc4xe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      well it was made by kojima so it should be a kojima game. what is the ego problem in this lmao

    • @Hi_Just_Fred
      @Hi_Just_Fred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@ShivaM-dc4xe I guess Konami got pissy that more people talked about Kojima than the company itself. So obviously the best idea was to shoot what little of a reputation they had in the foot, amazing.

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ShivaM-dc4xe So kojima is a writter, engineer, cgi modeler, fx master, military advisor XD?

  • @Assassin0Ninja
    @Assassin0Ninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1092

    MGS fans reaction to MG survive: "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

    • @pinbox5814
      @pinbox5814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @PogChamp You have to buy save slots.

    • @k_kubes
      @k_kubes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @PogChamp yes, you have to pay for a extra save slot

    • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
      @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @PogChamp I got it and returned it the same day, it’s really that bad of a title.

    • @IceBreak23
      @IceBreak23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @PogChamp lol you only know this now? Konami was always scummy

    • @jesusrodriguez3728
      @jesusrodriguez3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @PogChamp lmao looks like you haven't even played it

  • @arniemarnie
    @arniemarnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    They played us like a damn fiddle!

    • @aroccoification
      @aroccoification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alifayazi9496 just to suffer

    • @channel5980
      @channel5980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They totally bamboozled us.

  • @IQ2992
    @IQ2992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    This feels like a eulogy for a dead friend. :(

  • @Remus-z6y
    @Remus-z6y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    If they wanted to do a spin-off they should’ve done something with the whole building up your own mercenary company. I really enjoyed that part of mgs 5 and felt like they could’ve done more with it.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Doing more isn't something Konami has any need to do anymore. They got taken over by a sleazeball who wanted to grease his pockets.

    • @proxysoldier2946
      @proxysoldier2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      imho, it would be more acceptable and easy for konami just to launch a battle royale MGS game (which i admit would be interesting considering how good the movement system in the fox engine) instead of releasing stale idea like a zombie survival game

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Portable Ops and Peace Walker are the games that let you do that

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD The system of the "rescue" and "building" of survive is better than mgs v, more close to peace walker than mgs v.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Krystalmyth i'm quite sure that Konami is now just a front for the yakuza.

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1431

    I'm still salty that 70% of the way through MG5 the game just sort of ended

    • @luminosity01
      @luminosity01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      more like repetitive

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

      I doubt it would have been complete had Kojima been given more time, but I'm positive it would have been *more* complete if Konami weren't trying to shove him out the door and make one last quick buck off his work.

    • @arsmariastarlight3567
      @arsmariastarlight3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@Lucifronz I'm pretty sure that's the case. Konami are eager to kick him out of the company ASAP before he managed to finish MGSV. Because when I played the game and the game ended I just sort of... What? Knowing that the ending seems awkward and definitely unfinished

    • @nomercy8989
      @nomercy8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Sounds like you are experiencing Phantom Pain

  • @Xaito
    @Xaito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The restructure at Konami explains the changes in the gaming industry. Instead of people with visions, who are passionate about the art, games and franchise, leadership consists now of people who care about monetization schemes.

  • @cybersoldierforever
    @cybersoldierforever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    It’s something that Konami wouldn’t tell us about.

    • @wolfensniper4012
      @wolfensniper4012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All about Pachinko machines

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Konami be like let's sell them crack (pachinko) instead of coke (video game) and we'll make tons of money.

  • @raidencan95
    @raidencan95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    1:18 i always knew, Kojima were a Shrek fan

    • @CoolSs
      @CoolSs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Haha did not even realize that until you pointed it out

    • @TechGamesAU
      @TechGamesAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1:19*

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

    • @Sorutoku
      @Sorutoku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shrek is Love Shrek is Life

  • @bluekewne
    @bluekewne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    9:06 small correction - a "Konami Sport Club" is basically a gym/fitness center chain in Japan, with excersize equipment etc (think 24Hour Fitness/Planet Fitness/Gold's Gym/etc), has nothing to do with actual sports. I saw one in Tenjin, Fukuoka in 2019 when I saw the Konami logo and wanted to know what it was - no games or pachinko, just a fitness gym.

  • @dannyboy32125
    @dannyboy32125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I really like how the guy sounds like the How It's made narrator. You've earned a subscription.

    • @andrewparks162
      @andrewparks162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Steve Petitt has such a silky voice!!! Absolutely no offence meant to the geezer but his voice in these videos help me to get to sleep sometimes!

    • @proximabear1432
      @proximabear1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's the best narrator!

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

    • @dannyboy32125
      @dannyboy32125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ballswalls8189 I don't know how I feel about this 😂

    • @Fazeshyft
      @Fazeshyft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He sounds way more badass than the narrator of How It's Made that I remember.

  • @SalusFuturistics
    @SalusFuturistics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    People forget that Kojima said, if Rising got a Sequel, it'd be about Nanomachine Zombies, before he was let go.
    Then, Konami made a Game about Nanomachine Zombies, completely missing the Point (Or the Punchline)

    • @n0zo.143
      @n0zo.143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats probably the reason you use a stick

    • @TRBG
      @TRBG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup I remember this except it was going to have frank yager

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    A tragedy to see MGS and the FOX Engine dragged in the mud with this aberration.

  • @MrErodriguezd
    @MrErodriguezd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    You know what, i am glad that metal gear ended on the phantom pain. It may had been imperfect, but at least it was a true metal gear game through it all that was fun to play. This... Thing is an abomination that should never see the light of day.

  • @chumorgan443
    @chumorgan443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Survive was like watching a murdered loved one put on puppet strings and made to dance.

  • @albg9272
    @albg9272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    F in the chat for Metal Gear fans when this came out

  • @kitezzz360
    @kitezzz360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    metal gear survives by breathing through its skin

  • @BlindMango
    @BlindMango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It was really just a quick zombie cash grab by Konami, honestly way more effort was put into this video than Konami put into Metal Gear Survive lol

    • @gamepad3173
      @gamepad3173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd prefer Resident Evil over Metal Gear survive. at least with RE it makes more sense that way than throwing in zombies for a stealth action game.

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Let us never forget that they expected use to pay for a save slot.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Actually that's false, it was about paid slots for new characters, there wasn't any point in making more anyway since there was chapter select.

    • @Numbingbird
      @Numbingbird 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@shooter5769 It’s horse shit either way. Monster Hunter World/Rise didn’t charge me 10 dollars if I wanted to make a new character. Neither does Destiny 2 and these are are big games!

    • @sgr_sean
      @sgr_sean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Numbingbird because the save slots in survive did not even work like traditional save slots like it would for those games
      You shared inventory and gear from all saves, meaning all end game gear you got, can be brought to a starter character
      all the resource farms you build. are shared aswell meaning if you had 4 characters, (which they gave you the currency for free anyway by logging in, but nobody cared about that or didnt mention it on purpose to make it seem worse than it was...)
      you would have more resources to pull from, more attempts for weeklies since there was a weekly base defense game for endgame stuff, and an expanded shared inventory.
      i know people love saying "They sold save slots" cause it makes it easy to hate, but it there was way more to it than that. Enough to completly excuse them from doing it? maybe not, but definitely overblown if you actually research it.

    • @OVERkiller2020NewPge
      @OVERkiller2020NewPge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@sgr_sean Okay... If that's the case then they shouldn't have even offered the additional save slots for purchase to begin with.
      But they did... But no you're completely right let's just forgive them because they certainly only had the consumers best interests in mind when attempting to sell those additional save slots to farm additional resources and rewards that have nothing of real value. They certainly weren't looking to make as much profit as they possibly could. Everyone who disagrees is just a hater hating on a good gaming corporation who only care for profits.
      Yeah that COMPLETELY justifies selling save slots.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@sgr_sean my dude, that is called new game plus, and it's FREE in 99% of other games...

  • @shane3674
    @shane3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Everyone knew what this was going to be without Kojima.

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Many MG games were done without Kojima as a director/writer before Survive... Metal gear ghost babel, acid 1-2, portable ops, rising...

    • @shane3674
      @shane3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@lordemmerich I knew rising wasn’t but that turned out amazing. But it was the only one I knew he wasn’t a part of

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@shane3674 the others usually are less known. Due to being too different or just bad luck.
      Kojima wanted more non Kojima games. Mgs4 even started non Kojima. But fans usually are hostile against those.
      I hope people still will give the staff chances in the future. MG will return one day.

    • @uppercutgrandma4425
      @uppercutgrandma4425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better dialogue?

    • @iroquoisv
      @iroquoisv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shane3674 kojima team made the beginning foundations for mgr like some of the basic animations and the raiden model before it got given to platinum games to develop the idea of the story further and the gameplay mechanics

  • @kieranking7173
    @kieranking7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Of all reports of Konami post-Phantom Pain, this is somehow the most comprehensive, detailed one, without being too long. Well done.

  • @deadhunt4939
    @deadhunt4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    The Tragedy being that it exists

    • @riperonirigatoni2394
      @riperonirigatoni2394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Based

    • @1e33n7
      @1e33n7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The tragedy of existing…

    • @abyss9316
      @abyss9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's so funny I thought the same exact thing when I just read the title of the video

    • @rifqimujahid4907
      @rifqimujahid4907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@riperonirigatoni2394 ow exercising internet lingo are we edgelord?

    • @Severekillshot
      @Severekillshot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And yet if it was something kojima put out, you would all suck him off for it. Metal gear fans are idiots i swear.

  • @WiddlyScuds2909
    @WiddlyScuds2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Although the editing and production value is top notch, this dudes voice MAKES this channel the best it can be. No other narrator can do it like this.

    • @jonathandempsey9228
      @jonathandempsey9228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He also narrates the how it’s made videos as well.

    • @RexAtirai
      @RexAtirai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like he's on discovery channel

    • @spartida3850
      @spartida3850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonathandempsey9228 I knew his voice sounded familiar! the narrator’s voice definitely gives this a professional quality feeling lol

    • @playstationpapi747
      @playstationpapi747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts. It makes other TH-cam videos about games not that great.

    • @RandomB13
      @RandomB13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If so try also Ahoy channel. You should like it :) too bad it's probably dead, but what is there is a lot and very good.

  • @Hikirayy
    @Hikirayy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Felt sad today and opened youtube,gotta thank it for giving me this video that was uploaded a minute ago

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Konami is a prime example of “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”

    • @fitzviandraduivenab2790
      @fitzviandraduivenab2790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Nintendo and Blizzard are also strong contenders

    • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
      @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@fitzviandraduivenab2790 not super sure about Nintendo but yeah Blizzard has definitely taken up that mantle.

    • @TuTataElDaddy
      @TuTataElDaddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Nintendo as well

    • @skoomamuch356
      @skoomamuch356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pardon my ignorance.
      Why nintendo

    • @shadowx2229
      @shadowx2229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skoomamuch356 greed

  • @Darksiders2988
    @Darksiders2988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    " It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you..."

  • @enriquepiquim.6245
    @enriquepiquim.6245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The way Kojima managed to pull a "fuck you" note out of V, aimed towards Konami, and its exaggerated meta will always be part of the franchise' highest achievements.

  • @JimmyTurner
    @JimmyTurner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I remember when this came out my friend got it and played it for about 10 hours before he realized it wasn't getting any better. He was a big metal gear fan. He was so upset.

  • @bigcade554
    @bigcade554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is actually some evidence to suggest Kojima may have had knowledge of Survive while still at Konami and perhaps was even involved in it's early planning, it had origins as a MGSV DLC, and some mechanics and concepts between Survive and Death Stranding overlap.

  • @DrumEagle
    @DrumEagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All other GVMERS-videos: "The Rise And Fall Of..."
    MGSurvive: "There was no rise, just a tragedy!"

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Never in gaming has the word _"Tragic"_ been so accurate

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MG survive didnt exist, MGS 5 story wise was unfinished sadly

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx ......um wut?!

    • @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489
      @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you living under a rock or have you never heard of Cyberpunk?

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 Cyberpunk was perfectly in line with past shambolic Witcher releases, people just have terrible memories
      All the warning signs were there for years before launch

    • @gamenetic6426
      @gamenetic6426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fallout ...

  • @Mogeko_Ranger
    @Mogeko_Ranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    There's two endings in this game, and one of them shows that all of Metal Gear Survive was nothing but a dream, and you're simply a soldier wandering the desert in Afghanistan, just like those side missions in MGS5 to unlock old Mother Base members, that ending is canon to me.

    • @yuiindiegamingchannel9424
      @yuiindiegamingchannel9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From zombie survival game turned into some sort of psycho game, lol.
      But at least, that made whole sense

    • @christopherriley2406
      @christopherriley2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      trust me we all wish this was a dream

    • @VooXoo
      @VooXoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      from what I know the wandering soldier ending happens if the player chooses to escape the survive world with the wormgate
      and when it happens his memories get scrambled
      he becomes one of the lost and confused soldiers from motherbase that Snake can find and re-recruit in MGS5
      hinting that the other confused soldiers didn't survive 9 years wandering in a daze but Snake just found other that returned with a wormgate a little before
      possibly all the other dazed soldiers that returned died in their confusion
      makes us think that maybe when Kojima don't wanted a zombie game he wanted to make something about them, and the staff working on survive repurposed them and gave a explanation to how they were alive in random parts of the map in MGS5

    • @techMan_25
      @techMan_25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me when I don't pay attention to the story

  • @Jenazad.
    @Jenazad. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    "I thought my life was a tragedy but now I realize it's a comedy" would sum up this game perfectly.

    • @Tylergube616
      @Tylergube616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same can be said about my life.

    • @Blazingator
      @Blazingator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      okay gamer

    • @ItsRawdraft2
      @ItsRawdraft2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We live in a society?????

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mgs was always a comedy

  • @Skip2TheEnd
    @Skip2TheEnd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Metal Gear Survive; “Youuuu’ve killled meee!”
    Everyone: “GOOD!!!”

  • @MetalGearW0lf
    @MetalGearW0lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This must be the most positive rated MG-Survive video out there.

  • @DocDoesGamingTV
    @DocDoesGamingTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Metal Gear Survive"
    Narrator voice: "Metal Gear did in fact *not* survive."

  • @ivanmcgann1989
    @ivanmcgann1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Using MGS3 as a template the tools are there to make a MGS survival game where you forage for supplies behind enemy lines

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    People seem to forget that Kojima didn't really want to make MGS IV (which I loved but understood his feelings), but was pressured into doing so, and really, REALLY didn't want to make V. Like many others, it was a game I watched the countdown clock for months after it went live, and as launch day arrived, prayed I'd survive an impending heart attack waiting for it to unlock. Then, the disappointment began, and blow by blow, it seemed that Kojima was intent on killing his franchise even if Konami wasn't hell bent on doing it faster. Anyone who played it (and the rest of the series previously) could tell his heart wasn't in it 100%, but that didn't stop or excuse the tirade of BS that Konami put him and his team through, especially removing his name from the game right before release. That's some next-level fuckery that I still haven't forgotten.
    It wasn't helped by the fact that the team spent the first 3 years of development just building the Fox engine, then had a year to make a game with it under insurmountable pressure.

  • @nocultist7050
    @nocultist7050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually was very surprised how they handled the concept. There was actually an already established plot for Survive in MGSV. A squad that was away from the motherbase on some OPS while the XOF blew the place up. Suddenly the communication is dead, no information, no support coming and you and your squadmates are stranded on enemy territory. You need to establish a temporary base of operations and find out what happened to the motherbase. After you learn that there is no support coming and there is no place for you to return to you can start forming a small private military and work as a mercenary to survive in war-torn part of the world. Why zombies?

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It still feels weird living in a gaming landscape where MGS no longer exists

    • @drcgad3052
      @drcgad3052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It still exists, it's just stuck in limbo.

  • @PersianGamer36
    @PersianGamer36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I remember not getting this until my wife thought to get it for me on Father’s Day. So I played it and was ok in the start then realized the issues after a few hours. But man the engine is amazing. The fact my older pc can run mgsv in 4k 60 is sheer mind blowing

    • @SyamDaRos-EndoManno
      @SyamDaRos-EndoManno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait a minute... Did you marry your daughter?

    • @werdpankuen9183
      @werdpankuen9183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SyamDaRos-EndoManno I hope this is a joke. His wife got him a gift as he is a father. He would get her a Mother’s Day gift as she is a mother. Not because they parent each other

  • @aroccoification
    @aroccoification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel is so good. It litterally feels like I'm watching a documentary on television. Your writer and voice over are particularly exceptional

  • @Roler42
    @Roler42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This game needed to seriously have an offline mode.
    It also needed to be it's own IP instead of spitefully hanging off the Metal Gear IP when public perception of Konami was a it's all time worst.

    • @drakenaenae6244
      @drakenaenae6244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats the thing Konami needs that title for people to buy the game. Which kinda backfired to Konami since the way Konami handled Kojima and his team in a bad way which make most MGS fans lost trust with Konami. Ended with bad sales too. I agree that Konami needs to leave MGS series alone and create a new IP to gain consumer trust. They can touch the MGS series maybe sometime in the future with proper budget and hire passionate creators who respect the original vision of MGS. But yeah, Konami direction nowadays are mostly on Pachinko machines.

  • @triadwarfare
    @triadwarfare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hear the quote in my head "Have you heard of the Tragedy of Metal Gear Survive?" in Palpatine's voice thanks to it being similar to "Dark Plaguis the wise"

  • @riegen.
    @riegen. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All the great potentials of the MGS franchise had, was leaded to that DAMN PACHINKO MACHINES!

  • @solidsnake6405
    @solidsnake6405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make damn fine videos!! The Narrator is frecking top notch.keep up the fantastic work.

  • @armorytarded3983
    @armorytarded3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A metal gear game without Kojima is like a car without an engine, it will still have doors, wheels and seats to sit on but it will not go anywhere.

    • @armorytarded3983
      @armorytarded3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @2 Corinthians 4:7-11 hilarious 😆🤣😂😄 👍

  • @illusion9289
    @illusion9289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Konami: (Releases Metal Gear Survive)
    Literally Everyone: "All you had to do CJ, was make the damn MGRising2!"

  • @kylehunter2674
    @kylehunter2674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just want you guys to know these videos are truly great. I can actually watch these with my wife and it feels like a serious documentary. For this I thank you 🙏🏽

  • @dc8836
    @dc8836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fantastic Fox Engine being locked away is the real tragedy, IMO. It's a pretty impressive piece of work. It would be like if Capcom shelved their RE Engine after we saw how optimized and powerful it was in RE7.

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean Capcom did even worse with the Pentha Rei engine. Making a new gen engine and literally only using it on a canceled game.
      As much i love FOX, it's still a 11 years old engine now. So when the next MG game is done, they might replace it.

    • @kicapanmanis1060
      @kicapanmanis1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordemmerich what next MG game though?

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kicapanmanis1060 we don't know. But MG will return for sure.

  • @ttprophet
    @ttprophet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    even tho it failed, I think it gave us a window into a universe lore that isn't as alternative to the source material as we might think. as an idea and a game as a whole, it may have flopped internationally, but the script and themes tell us there is more to the story of metal gear solid than just a pseudo-historical tactical espionage saga.

  • @_gungrave_6802
    @_gungrave_6802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The overall story of Metal Gear concluded with the 5th game. What I want os a Metal Gear Rising sequel to continue Raiden's story as the first game left with quite the cliffhanger tease of an ending. Other than an MGSR 2 they can always do remakes of the first two Metal Gear games from the NES because those are the first time Snake actually appears canonically and not Metal Gear Solid 1. Its also the first time that Big Boss(aka Naked Snake) is shown long before his appearance in MGS3:Snake Eater.

  • @captaintusk5091
    @captaintusk5091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The History channel needs to hire you for documentaries.

    • @nikkity5491
      @nikkity5491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Why would he want to downgrade?

    • @r.daneel.90
      @r.daneel.90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are fine with Nazi alien documentaries.

    • @dakiler2028
      @dakiler2028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why would I want videogames in my History Channel experience? It would go against my duck hunting - storage selling - alien abducted - UFO - nazi fetish

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, TV production schedules mean that he has to make more episodes and compress them into a "season" and ruin his quality and creative control due to timelines and deadline.

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

  • @Muna004
    @Muna004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked it. I didn't go into it expect Metal Gear Solid, the same way I didn't with Metal Gear Rising.

  • @fohhee
    @fohhee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Metal Gear Survive is not a tragedy,
    It's a comedy.

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xD all of mgs lore is a huge comedy XD

    • @IAmAlpharius20
      @IAmAlpharius20 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@estacion7386NANOMACHINES SON

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always found Kojima's comment on Survive's zombies a bit hypocritical as many mainline Metal Gear games feature zombies or zombie like creatures so there's a basis in the canon for it.
    For example: the Skull Unit can use mist to turn other people into zombie like beings, The Sorrow has Snake fight zombie ghosts of everyone he killed up to that point, Screaming Mantis uses nanomachines to manipulate both the living and dead like voodoo zombies, to name a few canon Metal Gear zombies. If nothing else, the use of both futuristic technology and existence of supernatural forces in Metal Gear canon means if nothing else that zombies are definitely possible.

    • @evancavalier647
      @evancavalier647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the actual reason the zombies exist and the dust is that with the rampant nanomachines in the future time of metal gear four and on caused the appocalypse. think the grey goo theory scientists created. where a dumb mass of nano machines just consume and build more forever. thats what turned them and they are kind of hive mind.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evancavalier647
      MGSurvive Players: I wonder what the nanomachine hive mind thinks about.
      The Nanomachine Hive Mind: Nanomachines, Son! We harden in response to physical trauma! YOU CAN'T HURT US, SURVIVORS!
      MGSurvive Players: Railgun goes brrr.

  • @mohammadhussien5223
    @mohammadhussien5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I remember the announcement of this Joke of a game, when I first saw I was like RIP MGS Franchise.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was open to giving it a chance. Then heard about the base you can dump resources into and the microtransactions and I immediately passed on it because it was pretty clear they were going to use the resource grind to encourage microtransaction purchases.

    • @kummakummakummakummakummac8606
      @kummakummakummakummakummac8606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember when this was announced. A large majority of fans were like "Fuck Konami". Every so often someone wouldn't shit on the game but there wasn't many of them.

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/w-d-xo.html

  • @izaacchirac5061
    @izaacchirac5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well made and informative, thank you!

  • @MKMadness
    @MKMadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The begin cutscenes were really well done, made me even hyped to play the game till the damn portal openend up. I thought this game was about you building a new PF and taking revenge but nope it was a zombie game that no one asked for.

    • @chriscormac231
      @chriscormac231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      imagine if it was that, and the main character was mosquito, culminating in that final mission, the raid on mother base, how you end is dependant in your mercenary score and hero rating, lowest gets you shot with a sniper rifle, low you get shot in a shootout with venom, med gets you yeeted over the railing, high gets you shot with a fulton rocket and highest has a montage of your men dissapearing one by one in the background, until you're the only one left with no hostages, you get held up from behind and interrogated before the fulton pack gets put on you and you fly high into the sky

  • @Laimy88
    @Laimy88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even the iconic artist distance himself from the franchise. Man..

  • @flaminashes4693
    @flaminashes4693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kojima knows Shrek is a good anime

  • @MackHeath-ns7ly
    @MackHeath-ns7ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well the only problem I had with the games was the fact the fewer people you killed the higher your rank at the end of the game but I had problems doing that in parts of the game when a group of Enemy would not only find me but attack me even when i could use the Stealth gear

  • @Dakurar
    @Dakurar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kojima kills me. "MGS isn't about zombies, but IF i were to add them, this is what they'd look like."

  • @GAMEPRO24X
    @GAMEPRO24X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as someone who made alot of videos documenting and covering the game's mechanics. it was an interesting ride but brutal as hell for any new players. The gameplay loop was ok as well but what really killed it for me was the serious lack of content. after year 1 of playing the game the devs just fucked off and we didnt get anything new that was substantial. I along with a small handful of people kept the game alive for that year. helping each other, making guides and providing resources to any newer players that wanted to give the game a shot.

  • @Adrius91
    @Adrius91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can just hope that the engine ends up used in some good titles moving forward. Real impressive tech.

  • @RoIand
    @RoIand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only tragedy here is that this game exists in the first place. Not even a single soul had faith in this game.

  • @Packers786
    @Packers786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Me and my friend were just talking about how terrible this game was yesterday

  • @jrow3101
    @jrow3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mgs 5 was a masterpiece and still playable today.

  • @hazzar7784
    @hazzar7784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy this video came out.
    Personally I really like MGSurvive. Theres a lot wrong with it, and the drama behind it was tragic but. It's quite fun, and for me felt just at MG as PP was (which as a life long fan was a baffling self aware disappointment) also, nano machine zombies are in PP, also Vamp. Kojima shit on it, and Konama is a brutal company, and a lot of hard working people probably lost there lively-hoods for reasons beyond them.

  • @illusion9289
    @illusion9289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Metal Gear Rising 2 is probably going to become as big of a meme as Half Life 3 was

  • @dakimuraohana
    @dakimuraohana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My wife and I really thought it wasn’t that bad. The jelly fish monster is still nightmare fuel Lol

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definetely hardest boss

    • @dwarvernbard9782
      @dwarvernbard9782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arguably the game was good but the problem comes from the question; Did this need to ba a Metal Gear Solid game?
      EDIT: Allow me to clarify that I meant that if this game didn't have the Metal Gear name associated with it it may not have been looked at like it was and people could have enjoyed the game for what it could have been without the expectations of a triple A game attached. I honestly think it could have been a solid B or A rank game by itself

    • @henshimai
      @henshimai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwarvernbard9782 It's not a Metal Gear Solid game, hence the title. It's a Metal Gear spin off game, just like Rising. I mean, don't get me wrong, Konami is freaking bad, but still the game deserves a chance. The thing is, this game was made in a wrong place, at a wrong time.

  • @ossiehalvorson7702
    @ossiehalvorson7702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam: So how many ads do you want?
    GVMERS: Yes.

  • @livinglie5598
    @livinglie5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did anyone of you played Survive? Because I feel like the only few who played it.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did, even took care of all achievements. It starts terribly but eventually gets good, especially in multiplayer.

  • @edusszfx
    @edusszfx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great piece. Something interesting in a similar topic would be the history of Castlevania.

  • @jimpatterson1111
    @jimpatterson1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m fascinated by the narrator’s voice. I have to place a face to the voice. I already know that it isn’t anything like I picture. That’s a neutral statement, it’s always the case with great voices.

    • @BFKAnthony817
      @BFKAnthony817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yeah he is a really cool guy. Been recording narration for these guys for years since they did an Evolution of Battlefield video back in the day. You should check it out, really cool video too.
      th-cam.com/video/3ttSfRr4rbs/w-d-xo.html

  • @DakarrtheTerminator
    @DakarrtheTerminator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:40 metal gear lore the most consistent and set in stone lore in the world truly

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMFAO that's hilarious and, yet there are people who actually do try and claim that.

  • @gabrielleon5279
    @gabrielleon5279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss metal gear

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its sad that the last real MGS will never be finished, and we know we will never get the artists full story... that final shot of snake saluting actual made me kind of emotional thinking about it. fuck i love those games

  • @healthysandwich1503
    @healthysandwich1503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A simple rearranging of the name could have solved a few problems, IMO
    “SURVIVE: a metal gear story “

  • @nobyra
    @nobyra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To add on another comment. We lost the other half of MGS V; Silent Hills, a colaboration with Guilhermo Del Toro and junji ito; The Fox engine, a vert sofisticated game engine; possible remakes of older mgs games; a game about the boss; Zone of the Enders. At least MG rising is made by Platinum... so theres hope.

    • @kicapanmanis1060
      @kicapanmanis1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’ll need Konami permission though

  • @trevanminnig3499
    @trevanminnig3499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who only played this and MGS:V, it wasn’t terrible... and it made as much sense as MSGV to me, as well...
    Otherwise, sorry you all had to suffer through it lol

    • @Kye_2020
      @Kye_2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought it was fun tbh

  • @SteamHammer7
    @SteamHammer7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you love phantom pain, and want more metal gear then you'll really enjoy survive.

  • @kinggaahljr7796
    @kinggaahljr7796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Currently 4am in Australia, was gonna go to bed but after this lol

    • @TommyCeltic
      @TommyCeltic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you can't go out in Australia, so you might as well stay in bed.

    • @kinggaahljr7796
      @kinggaahljr7796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TommyCeltic I am apart of off-brand Australia (Tasmania) so I'm good ;)

    • @TommyCeltic
      @TommyCeltic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kinggaahljr7796 Fair enough. 🤣 Take it easy, mate.

  • @Krystalmyth
    @Krystalmyth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for not naming this the Rise and Fall of Metal Gear. I don't think I'd have been able to keep from breaking down.
    I know that sounds ridiculous, but I just realized I was already on the edge of tears when I noticed the tact in your title...
    Ty for all you do GVMERS.

  • @jmullner76
    @jmullner76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Need to mention the micro transactions, like how they charge you to open up more save places.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actaully they were paid character slots, not save slots.

    • @jmullner76
      @jmullner76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shooter5769 Stand corrected, and Konami still sucks.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmullner76 yes

  • @TheZOMBIEJ
    @TheZOMBIEJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome documentary (as usual)! can you guys do a documentary on the rise and fall of Vietcong? it's a Vietnam War-era franchise that, as far as i know, has only two main installments in the franchise; "Vietcong" (2003) and "Vietcong 2" (2005) plus an expansion; "Vietcong: Purple Haze" (2004) and a DLC; "Vietcong: Red Dawn" (year unknown)! there is definitely a story to be told here! thank you for your time! ^_^

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The concept could have been pulled off. It really could. But Konami.

  • @gelozyg1732
    @gelozyg1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pitch would have been a story as one of the soldiers of Mother base
    Called Metal Gear Soldiers (MGS) a co op game with 4 players and optional AI companion
    It would take place during events of The Phantom pain and as one of the soldiers you get commands from one of the big three: Ocelot, Venom and Miller
    You are tasked to get through international missions within the MGS universe and sometimes come in to assist big boss in times of need and would be a great way to emulate the episodic stories of MGSV
    Imagine those times you deploy your soldiers to missions in your Idroid during MGSV and those missions are actually you being deployed.
    You get to also join in a fray against tougher enemies such as the nanomachine monsters you see in MGSV and with the added mechanic of being not being built like Big Boss you will have to think on how to counter such enemies.
    As a soldier you are much weaker than Venom and Big Boss and you move heavy, methodical and on purpose heavy combat to make you feel like a person rather than Venom snake which would make it the perfect departure but stays true to the original spirit of metal gear
    Story wise the sky is the limit, you get to fight different enemies never seen in metal gear and can be the perfect platform to introduce those enemies again in a future title.
    You will also get missions from Huey to gather parts for the metal gear tank by using stealth and espionage to steal technology from different parts of the world which can be used against the Sahelanthropus Metal Gear if ever that mission can be made a reality. A mission that would include a cinematic fight as you join AI Mother base soldiers and venom snake trying to take it down.
    This story can be expanded further by introducing the REAL big boss in a dlc to help him build outer heaven
    The sky is the limit with Kojima’s MGS Universe
    IF ONLY KONAMI PAYED ATTENTION

  • @Chronomaton
    @Chronomaton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As said in the conclusion: I wish just ANYONE had given it a chance. It wasn't a bad idea, it's just that everything around it fell apart and kicked it in the shins.

    • @DanielSlva
      @DanielSlva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only bad thing about the game is that it waited too long to be fun. You have to be very patient with the game in the first 10 hours for it to start to become fun and playful. The game is totally fun only when you finish its main storyline. The endgame is what the game should've been from the start.

  • @DezuKiwami
    @DezuKiwami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh boy, as a Metal Gear fan who VERY much enjoyed this game I just wanna share my (balanced) feelings towards this game, since I have found it nearly impossible to find a more 'objective' review of this game.
    First of all, if you liked MGSV's gameplay, controls, and the glorious look and feel of the FOX Engine you will feel right at home here. Yes, it's not a Kojima game, but people tend to forget that he does not make these game on his own and he has always had an amazingly talented team working for him (and Konami) that pushed the technical aspects of videogames each console generation and defined what 'stealth action' gameplay is. These developers probably never wanted the next Metal Gear game to be a 'zombie survival' game either but they did what they could. And to be fair, this title has almost nothing to do with the Metal Gear title aside from the visual design. It's certainly not an amazing game but I really enjoyed the progression in the single player and the co-op was decent as well, and at higher difficulties it actually required map knowledge and teamwork. I'd personally rate it a very enjoyable 7.5/10.
    Now here's the (understandable) issue; the game was absolutely destroyed in reviews when it launched. Of the many reviews I watched it was very obvious from the gameplay I saw that not a single reviewer played past the first 3 to 5 hours based on their character progression and loadout. I can imagine not wanting to give 'Metal Gear but with zombies by evil Pachinkonami' a chance, and let's say they DID enjoy the game, they would not dare revealing even the slightest affection for this title.
    I'd say if you enjoyed MGS5 and like survival games with an enticing gameplay loop and a decent challenge, give it a shot since it's quite cheap nowadays. Try finding some reviews of people who actually played it as well.

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's amazing how , even unfinished, MGS V is one of the best games of all time.

  • @aliazimian
    @aliazimian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:00 that sheep is an easter egg referring to Kazohira's "Why are we still here, just to suffer" line .

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Correct use of the word "myriad" - I am happy.

  • @BFKAnthony817
    @BFKAnthony817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least one good thing to come out of MG Survive and Ground Zeroes were the maps, which by the way can be modded into MGS V on PC to seriously expand the game and give you all new mission areas. Just a little food for though. I just got the game on sale for literally $5 and it has a lot of great modding potential on PC for sure. FPS mode, reusing areas from other games in same engine, making all new areas ect.

  • @invisuu6280
    @invisuu6280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "It may revive this franchise" - please no, let it die. MGS4 was already a hate letter to the fans who kept wanting more and more and more. The story is complete, it came full circle, albeit with a lot of retconning, but still.

    • @Skubbes
      @Skubbes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mgs4 was my favourite. what was the problem with that one?

    • @invisuu6280
      @invisuu6280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skubbes The old tired solid snake, the gruff voice, the literal killing off of characters. Kojima used many symbols letting you know he's tired of this franchise and that he wants this to be the end. He wanted to hand off MGS 2 to a team already, but was brought back because it was initially a catastrophe of a project (hence the story in MGS1 of passing things down to other generations, as he wanted to do with MGS2).

  • @gblenemy
    @gblenemy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metal Gear was killed with the Phantom Pain and burried with Survive.. May it rest in peace.
    Sad that the fans will never see the true end of this saga.

  • @InfinitySpiritD
    @InfinitySpiritD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally, I preferred Survive over TPP by a LONG shot. It wasn't perfect. Very forgettable characters with bad voice acting, and the story itself was... Okay. But it was tons of fun. Especially when playing the co-op with friends.
    I'm glad this documentary wasn't too biased and even mentioned that people didn't give it much of a chance due to it's messy origins. I was expecting a completely one-sided story, but overall it was a great watch and pretty on point with all the information.

  • @1ordof1o1
    @1ordof1o1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tnx for your work... Just as info gunz the duel is being revived.. Pls make vid a bout it... Thank you