The Game That Killed Its Own Studio - The Tragedy of Haze

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    Founded in 1999 by former Rare developers who served as creative forces on GoldenEye 007 and Perfect Dark, developer Free Radical Design built what many consider among the most inventive first-person shooters of the 2000s. The TimeSplitters series especially set the world on fire with exciting time travel elements. Free Radical’s subsequent project, Second Sight, brought its own unique brand of thrilling gameplay to the table as well, courtesy of various psychic mechanics. The Nottingham-based group tried pushing the envelope further when designing Haze, a PlayStation 3 exclusive primarily remembered for playing a role in the studio’s collapse.
    Haze didn’t bear the look of an ill-fated project in the years leading up to its May 2008 release. On the contrary, Free Radical and publisher Ubisoft never seemed anything less than proud of the first-person shooter’s progress. And apart from minor technical concerns months before launch, previews and other public showings were met with predominantly positive reception.
    Free Radical possessed the right ingredients-a world-renowned development team known for producing seminal experiences, the backing of a major publisher, and a gameplay hook that married well with an intriguing futuristic plot. Unfortunately, technical shortcomings and other circumstances beyond the developers’s control greatly hindered their ability to deliver the final product as promised. Players instead found themselves navigating a stale experience that failed to uphold the standards established across Free Radical’s otherwise stellar pedigree. At its core, then, Haze constituted the result of a talented team doing its best with the inferior hand it was dealt.
    This is the tragedy of Haze.
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    0:00 Intro
    01:59 Sponsorship
    03:08 Shifting Tides
    05:25 Growing Pains
    07:36 A Game About War
    10:58 Halo Killer
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  • @GVMERS
    @GVMERS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Check out Dying Light, the game will be on 70% Sale between the 9th and 21st December! Check it out here wehy.pe/y/2/GVMERS #ad

    • @TheeCambion
      @TheeCambion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do Killzone please 🥺

    • @MischaB1987
      @MischaB1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      "To celebrate the game's 30th anniversary" I didn't knowing Dying Light was THAT old! /s

    • @woldemunster9244
      @woldemunster9244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dying light is dying apparently, even RAID: Shadow Legends would have been "better" sponsor. :DDD

    • @user-cg5dy5lk2t
      @user-cg5dy5lk2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rise and fall Need For Speed

    • @markoyamashitach
      @markoyamashitach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      2:53 I don't get prompted to use the code during the buying process on Steam. Is this something you enter after purchasing the game?
      I have this game on PS4 but have been waiting for it to go on sale for PC. Best zombie game (single player) out there that delivers a open world, sandbox adventure. And, the developers have continued to update and add content which I find impressive. Now if only I could find where that code goes... 🤔

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1850

    "Ubisoft wanted quantity over quality"
    Some things never change.
    Unfortunately...

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Perfectly describes their current batch of games. Hard to believe I used to like them.

    • @xDrTomx
      @xDrTomx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      This was the start of the end for Ubisoft. Back then, they were known for quality always. Ghost Recon series was good af

    • @kupokinzyt
      @kupokinzyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@xDrTomx Far Cry 3 was the downfall of it all.

    • @xDrTomx
      @xDrTomx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@kupokinzyt was the ass creed series for me. How you gonna make a series called Assassins Creed and the only assassin we get is Altair, for ONE game.

    • @dani3po
      @dani3po 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Such as the script of these videos. "A group of genius developers are forced by an evil corporation to create a terrible game".

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +935

    This was one of those games that you would see at a GameStop and think to yourself, “This looks interesting, I’ll wait till it’s $10 bucks.”
    The PS3, Wii and Xbox360 era had so many games like that. Still a great era though.

    • @cyphaborg6598
      @cyphaborg6598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is really bad though

    • @iceytoa1
      @iceytoa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      I think the fact there were so many games like that, is what made that generation so good. You don't have singularity or vanquish tier games now, it's either 2D indie or AAA micro transaction mess :(

    • @tiagometallica007
      @tiagometallica007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@iceytoa1 My words exactly. Good AA games that aren't worth 60 bucks just don't exist anymore outside the PC gaming space. Pretty sad really

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I got all 360 games from Newsgroups, which was pretty awesome. I remember playing Halo 3 and Fifa more than a month before release.

    • @eddy59ification
      @eddy59ification 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Leon, I actually felt the exact same way. As a broke teen I didn't wanna take a chance on a new game when I was already familiar with COD and Battlefield, which were identical to what Haze was offering.
      Something about the color scheme threw me off as well, the bright yellow with black looks really unappealing.

  • @jakefoley9539
    @jakefoley9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1160

    "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Star Wars Battlefront 3? I thought not. It’s not a story EA would tell you. It’s a Free Radical legend. Battlefront 3 was a game in development, so anticipated and so ambitious that it could reinvent the very foundations of the series… It had such a knowledge of what players wanted that you could even fly from ground to space... without loading. Free Radical's game design was a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... really cool. It became so hyped… the only thing we were afraid of was it getting cancelled, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it taught its apprentice Haze everything it knew, then Haze killed it in its sleep. Ironic. Its resources could get other games developed, but not itself." - Palpatine, 19BBY

    • @rickylovesyou
      @rickylovesyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      wat

    • @tylerdeskins7715
      @tylerdeskins7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Lol some consider to be “really cool”

    • @MDPToaster
      @MDPToaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@rickylovesyou
      Free Radical was developing Star Wars Battlefront 3 along with Haze at the same time with split development teams.
      Star Wars Battlefront 3 while in development had a lot of technical issues and multiplayer was essentially impossible on all devices, leading to Lucas Arts to ask them to pull back on their vision of ground to space combat, the developers insisted they could fix the issues.
      They ended up over budget and falling way behind on development goals and couldn’t get multiplayer past 10 FPS.
      It’s speculated that the failure of Haze on a technical level is what gave Lucas Arts cold feet on the game and lead to the cancellation of the project.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MDPToaster I didn't know the multiplayer on Battlefront 3 was unplayable. Interesting did a developer say that in an interview? It should have been released on PC only but even back in 2008/2009 I think PC hardware could not have worked

    • @MDPToaster
      @MDPToaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@aceofhearts573
      Yeah there was an ex-dev that claimed the game was 98% finished and that Lucas Arts wanted a remake of the OG BF1+2 instead. However this was not true and the developer was treating the game as a passion project.
      Other devs have come out to contradict the completion percentage and place it around 30-40 and state the game was barely playable on single player.
      But there was a lot of completed assets for the game and they were put to use for the Battlefront 3 Legacy mod for Battlefront 2.

  • @strikeforce1500
    @strikeforce1500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    Who would had thought that Haze was a preview into what most triple A games would turn into. Crappy deals for the studios, stupid deadlines, even stupider deals, and Publisher interfering with development. Just to cause the death of the studio, while the Publisher yeets the IP, so nobody else uses a similar idea

    • @ketrub
      @ketrub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      turns out it was ahead of its time all along

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      except that crap existed before this game - you are just more aware of it now (for various reasons)

    • @caidurkan2916
      @caidurkan2916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xBINARYGODx yeah the general work environment of visual effects studios is one of many great examples, let alone cinema in general

  • @Gruntvc
    @Gruntvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    I still think the concept for Haze could've made for an excellent single player focused FPS. Shame it turned out this way and pretty killed Free Radical and their Timesplitters franchise.

    • @DantesGrill
      @DantesGrill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Deep Silver is working on a new Timesplitters so it's not completely dead, fortunately.

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @DantesGrill, Nice, is Dambuster Studio working on it? If I recall correctly, that's the one that was made up from Free Radical once Deep Silver picked them up from Crytek.
      I thought Homefront The Revolution was decent. But it was pretty cool they included the entire Timesplitters 2 single player as an Easter Egg in it.

    • @DantesGrill
      @DantesGrill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gruntvc I have no idea actually. One of the devs said they where working on it in a youtube comment. I only made a background check to see if it was legit. But it's supposed to have a lot of the same team behind it. Tried to ask some about how the gameplay would be but he wasn't allowed to say anything yet. This was months ago though.

    • @rustedknight_
      @rustedknight_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DantesGrill iirc, they've actually reformed FRD, although I think it's still under the control of one of the aforementioned studios

    • @bounceycake1
      @bounceycake1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The concept was great, but the game Spec Ops: The Line did better with that concept narritively

  • @ShiftJay08
    @ShiftJay08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    I remember when the marketing for this game came out with all the trailers and developer diaries. I was just a kid back then and became obsessed with this game. I look back now and cringe lol. Still reminded of this wasted potential every now and then. Multiplayer was fun though.

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      played a lot of the multiplayer with a friend back then. we didnt even take it seriously, our 'house rules' were basically playing hide and seek and then shooting each other in the back to cause an overdose.

    • @ElSoloNoco
      @ElSoloNoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same. I used to buy OPSM magazine each month religiously & the build up to this game was immense. It's one of the first games I can remember having such a huge build up and just dropping in price massively after it released.
      Such a shame what happened to Free Radical, all their games had a vibe about them where you could just tell it was made by them, the animation, the UI but the vibe in general. I remember being very dissapointed by this though, I can't remember if I rented it from Blockbuster or I bought it but it didn't feel like FR, it felt kinda just standard, lacking..

    • @theoroinvictus
      @theoroinvictus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was in high school then, a good friend of mine and I would argue meaninglessly about Haze and Crysis, about which game would be superior in graphics or tech etc. good times

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theoroinvictus lmao same, here in italy haze was ine of the first titles with triple a marketing and we were all hyped as fuck, we would constantly argue if haze or kz2 would be better

    • @theoroinvictus
      @theoroinvictus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lucignolo8333 oh yes, we did a lot of arguing about KZ2 as well. we were so fooled by the infamous pre-rendered trailer, it's funny to look back on the trivial things we pointlessly argued about back then

  • @RolfWrenWalsh
    @RolfWrenWalsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I enjoyed the game quite a bit, but my all-time favorite moment was during the marketing.
    Writer Rob Yescombe was being interviewed at a trade show, and he just goes off on the guy:
    "Haze is not a war game!! Haze is a game about war!!"
    Okay dude.... Think you can chill a bit?
    My friend and I still quote it to this day, and I always like to remind him that if there is one fact of life that he must always remember no matter what, it's that Haze not a war game, it is a game about war. This knowledge must be bestowed upon generation after generation.

    • @fuzzyballs8726
      @fuzzyballs8726 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t understand the statement. haze and the storyline was actually very in depth about the reality of war and focused more on the story rather than a typical shoot ‘em up fps that there were hundreds of in 2008

    • @RolfWrenWalsh
      @RolfWrenWalsh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fuzzyballs8726Yes I understand that having played through the game several times, but it was just so hilarious how he just blew up on the journalist.

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Not gonna lie the Dying Light sponsorship was unexpected.
    Partly because it is probably the first time I've ever seen an in video for a product that is actually relevant to the targeted audience while the product is actually good itself and not a rubbish mobile game.
    The other part is that it's Dying Light 1 being advertised not Dying Light 2. Guess Techland needed some extra capital to get DL2 over the finish line, lol.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@TheKarabanera I have no issue with them marketing it, just feels counterintuitive to market them previous game as we draw closer to the sequel's release day.

    • @MelAncholynus
      @MelAncholynus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's also nice that they're marketing a 70% off sale.

    • @chadhardt6136
      @chadhardt6136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@PlebNC the marketing focused on 1 is supposed to build a foothold into new players to later on sell you the second part, which if you enjoyed the first one, now you have the lore context and general feel of the franchise to persuade you to buy it, and since they are also going to give discounts to the first game, it makes it even easier to sell.

    • @Rexodiak
      @Rexodiak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True, seeing a video sponsored by a AAA game that's a few years old is a first for me, but I wouldn't mind it not being the last.
      Also, I swear I'm hearing "to celebrate the game's 30th anniversary" and the subtitles seem to agree on that lol

    • @vojtisekhovor
      @vojtisekhovor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PlebNC not at all actually, it's very well thought-out. once you play 1st one what will you be playing next huh? revenue is revenue and as you can see by Techland supporting their game for so long, it does not have to be all back in first week like with other scummy publishers

  • @Casio163
    @Casio163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    The best promotion this channel does is discussing the stories of video games and their making. After watching your videos on Sleeping Dogs, Dead Rising franchise, Spec Ops The Line, FEAR franchise and Bully, I bought the games and played them for the first time! Thank you for showing me some gems.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      God I want a remastered FEAR series

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Free Radical was actually killed by Lucasarts when they stopped funding of Battlefront 3. It was real bad because Lucasarta took out funding breaking the contract but since Free Radical was going under they knew Free Radical didn't have the money to take them to court so they closed down a few days before Christmas.

    • @butteredbread100
      @butteredbread100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And then Lucasarts was later killed off over Battlefront as well

  • @oof239
    @oof239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    2:42
    “To celebrate the game’s 30th anniversary…”
    I think you mean Techland’s 30th anniversary lol

  • @yttaf
    @yttaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Bro can't believe dying light is 30 years old.

    • @jormilos
      @jormilos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really though. It aged super well

    • @ketrub
      @ketrub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dying light aged so well it feels like it only released 6 years ago

    • @coredetta
      @coredetta ปีที่แล้ว

      How??? That thing came out in 2015 💀

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Bought this one on discount a few years after its release out of curiosity, it was clunky and tiresome but I will say the attempt to subvert gung ho military FPS by intentionally shielding the players via mechanics before showing the grim reality of what's being done by the evil conglomerate and its doped pawns is an interesting take for a game. Good ideas poorly executed.

  • @slippytrippy8122
    @slippytrippy8122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I dont care if it failed, the idea of assymetrical gameplay with addicts vs people who can make you overdose is badass

  • @MrBubbles0o0o
    @MrBubbles0o0o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    God Second sight was such a gem.. I miss playing it. I might start it up again soon.

    • @rookless4121
      @rookless4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dude, I remember playing that game with my gametap subscription lol

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Second Sight and Psi Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy were both good games that gave the player cool psychic powers.

    • @ElSoloNoco
      @ElSoloNoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was playing it not too long ago. Got as far as the asylum chapter but you know when you skip a few days, then it turns to weeks etc & it gets to a point where its been so long you'd just rather start again... Anyways great game 👌

    • @lucascoval828
      @lucascoval828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElSoloNoco
      I hear that.

    • @stutheironman
      @stutheironman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Psi-Ops was also solid from the same time period

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    They were so obsessed with killing Halo, all they had to do was wait a few years for Guardians to do that.

    • @Powerhouse1
      @Powerhouse1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      People keep saying this, but Infinite is doing very well all things considered.

    • @AncestorEmpireGaming
      @AncestorEmpireGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Powerhouse1 very well so far, even with the micro transactions

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      The thing is it was the gaming media that called it a Halo killer much like they did with the first Killzone. They seemed obsessed with something coming along that had to be a better Halo than Halo rather than being its own thing.

    • @Spartan_Jackal
      @Spartan_Jackal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@EggEnjoyer yeah but 4's story was way better then 5's. multiplayer, not so much

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spartan_Jackal100%

  • @Hank280
    @Hank280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Dam dying lights 30 years old already! I bought it day 1, man I'm getting old.
    Awesome video as always guys I'm supporting you all the way and will continue to. Loving the more regular uploads!.

    • @BEARJEW427
      @BEARJEW427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ughh what? Pretty sure it came out in 2015

    • @MelAncholynus
      @MelAncholynus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought it back in 2015 as well. But it was not until 2021 that I tried the expansion The Following. Had great fun with that one too.

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lay off the crack

    • @Aurongel
      @Aurongel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@UmVtCg They were referring to the narrator's ad copy flub(?) at 2:42

    • @Hank280
      @Hank280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aurongel - Aurongal got it. Good man :D. 2:42

  • @RG-lh8xb
    @RG-lh8xb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Deep Silver could reintroduce a new Haze game as something like "Haze Redux" in spirit of their Apocalypse Now inspiration, and be totally within grounds to totally reinvent it while still having brand recognition 🤷

    • @mylittlepkle1714
      @mylittlepkle1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "while still having brand recognition" what brand? Haze is not a brand and even if it was why would anyone want to remind potential customers of the garbage that was haze?

    • @RexcorJ
      @RexcorJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mylittlepkle1714 "One man's trash..."

  • @halowillneverbegoodagain1868
    @halowillneverbegoodagain1868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ah, I remember when Dying Light first released in 1991...

    • @fatmandoobius
      @fatmandoobius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol Not just me that spotted that then

    • @chooky4626
      @chooky4626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ran too fast on my 386 iirc

  • @tvsavery666
    @tvsavery666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Man this channel is so good. The narrator's voice is amazing and soothing, the content is quality documentary worth videos, just amazing work all around.

  • @36inc
    @36inc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    man Ima cry; free radical was on eof my childhood favorites. time splitters was such a gem and second sight was an underrated experience. when haze killed them I was so sad.

    • @nightowlseclipse2421
      @nightowlseclipse2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Free Radical are now reformed by Deep Silver to develop a new TimeSplitters game. The original creators David Doak and Steve Ellis are involved

  • @iv5539
    @iv5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:43 Can't believe it's almost 30 years since Dying Light released, it has aged beautifully.

    • @Chris-hs8zd
      @Chris-hs8zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought I was the only one who caught that lol

    • @DanteDMCSparda
      @DanteDMCSparda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chris-hs8zd its techland 30 year anniversary actually, dying light is 6 years old

    • @Chris-hs8zd
      @Chris-hs8zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanteDMCSparda thank you jack Marston we know that’s why yo pa got taken out by the Pinkertons

    • @DanteDMCSparda
      @DanteDMCSparda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chris-hs8zd hey ! I already avenged my pa !

  • @recon0503
    @recon0503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:40
    >Dying Light's 30th Anniversary is this Year
    Well Damn that games older than I thought

    • @jacobs4545
      @jacobs4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You didnt play dying light on the NES?

  • @fernandoharada508
    @fernandoharada508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Rise and Fall of Killzone series, please!

    • @As_Asa_PhD
      @As_Asa_PhD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want that too. I'd like to know more about the first Killzone. It's nice we got Horizon now though.

    • @jamescameron149
      @jamescameron149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would also very much like to see this. It would be great if it got done. Fond memories...

    • @Raggyham
      @Raggyham 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss!!!

  • @ALegitimateYoutuber
    @ALegitimateYoutuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    the craziest part about this was hearing golden eye got a score of 4. was it really that poorly reviewed? Because fucking hell I remember everyone loved it back then.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's a shooter for N64, 4 out of 10 is the best rating it can realistically aim for.

    • @matthewcheatham3322
      @matthewcheatham3322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe someone somewhere gave it that but it was pretty beloved when it came out.

    • @Razgriz_01
      @Razgriz_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EggEnjoyer If the game was made today, do you think they'll rate it higher because everyone loved it and they're afraid of backlash if they said negative things about it?

    • @porkman302
      @porkman302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah it was pretty well reviewed. That was just one reviewer. Both EGM and gamepro gave it glowing reviews

  • @awesomesource12
    @awesomesource12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I played haze on ps3 as a kid and really loved it, I still go back and play it now and always have fun with it, I think it's definetly a hidden gem and deserves a second chance

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah it’s definitely a hidden gem with sone very interesting mechanics and wonderful designs for mantel soldiers.
      I think the marketing hyping it up so much did more damage than anything else, if it wasn’t publicized as a halo killer people would’ve loved it much more

    • @III1IlIIlIllIl
      @III1IlIIlIllIl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucignolo8333 Halo killed itself. Have you seen the mess that is halo infinite? Forced crossplay and cringe skins.

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@III1IlIIlIllIl the only way to save halo is get rid of that cancer that is 343 industries and give the ip to a worthy studio

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@III1IlIIlIllIl
      Have you played Halo Infinite lately? It's great

  • @Mattznick
    @Mattznick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still can't believe in 2022 Free Radical Design is back from the dead and making a new Timesplitters game

  • @someaccount659
    @someaccount659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just discovered your channel. These videos are so interesting and well put together, subscribed

  • @profanegunman7586
    @profanegunman7586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I legitimately enjoyed Haze all the way through when I played it all those years ago, I guess there's something wrong with me. The same way people have nostalgia for Golden Eye, I have nostalgia for Haze, which I'm sure would freak some people out.

  • @pete6705
    @pete6705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was so hyped for Haze before it came out, the media was talking about it like it was going to be the best FPS ever

  • @PancakeInu
    @PancakeInu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think I remember they called this the "Halo killer" back when it was released.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember that too. Funny thing the halo killer game ended up being halo 4 and 5

  • @gingerbrummie
    @gingerbrummie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rise and fall of the Red faction series please

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Well looks like Free Radical is getting a second shot with David Doak and Steve Ellis at the helm under Deep Silver as the publisher for a new Time Splitters game. Not many publishers get a chance to be resurrected like that.

    • @victoriaevelyn3953
      @victoriaevelyn3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no not deep silver otherwise known as deep shit becuase anything involving them turns to shit I will explode if they fuck up my favourite franchise as much as I want another timesplitters I dont want a shit tinespiltters

    • @Razgriz_01
      @Razgriz_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit not Deep Silver. Aren't they the ones under Epic's payroll? I remember being excited for Metro: Exodus, until they announced, near the game's release, that it'll be taken off Steam and be an EGS exclusive. Its like a Monkey Paw wish.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Razgriz_01 nah Epic actually paid them a few million for the time exclusive rights. I cant blame any dev that takes the money from epic. Everyone would

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they would do a Time Splitters HD for games 1-3

    • @vojtisekhovor
      @vojtisekhovor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aceofhearts573 oh shit even Epic is involved, that's gonna suck oh god

  • @heykeiffers6684
    @heykeiffers6684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is like watching a world war documentary but for video games. I love it

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! Was just talking with someone yesterday about this *utter* disappointment.. such a cool concept, man
    Haze and Bodycount changed the way I anticipate things forever

  • @theactualTVB
    @theactualTVB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The 2000s was a great decade for video games. Gaming slowly went downhill by mid-2010s.

    • @dimaz3
      @dimaz3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah. Some of the best games are being released nowadays. From indie developers like Supergiant to Remedy getting back into limelight, Arkane, IO etc etc.

    • @theactualTVB
      @theactualTVB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dimaz3 I'm only talking about most third party developers, actually. Also Remedy isn't that much of an indie dev.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it wasn't for Dark Souls and its kids, I think I would've completely abandoned gaming by now.

    • @-pressxtostart-
      @-pressxtostart- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pfft

  • @bleedthesecolours
    @bleedthesecolours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I will defend Haze until the day I die. So many great memories playing co-op with a friend, we must have beat the campaign over a dozen times. Can't forget the competitive modes too, this was actually the first game that I played versus online and realised I was pretty decent.

    • @botmushin8878
      @botmushin8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I recall it being an okay game. I ended up buying Fracture instead of Haze.. I had fun but I'd say they're both on the same level (Fracture was definitely more comedic).

    • @bleedthesecolours
      @bleedthesecolours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@botmushin8878 Oh yeah, for sure they were both interesting concepts with that 'janky, bargain bin guilty pleasure' curse 😅

    • @nathanduncan672
      @nathanduncan672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I for whatever reason loved this game, & I cant really pinpoint why I replayed it repeatedly. The concept is unique as fuck & I'm surprised a better game hasn't reused the nectore gimmick. Overdosing in multiplayer made for some fun shoot outs

    • @maow9240
      @maow9240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never understood the hate for this game. I didn't get a chance to play it untill the multi-player had already died but solo it as just another average FPS that had pretty good visuals for its time.

    • @bleedthesecolours
      @bleedthesecolours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@maow9240 I think you just answered your question. While the few of us loved Haze for whatever reason, it was overhyped and (despite its unique points) turned out to ultimately be an average game which I think hurts more than if it was obviously average from the pre-release promos.

  • @-----------g-
    @-----------g- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who remembers the KoRn song for this game? Was the hypest thing about it.

  • @thecandlemaker1329
    @thecandlemaker1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I think the real villain of this story is, for once, not UbiSoft, but the fad for "serious military shooters". As soon as I saw the game's dreary footage composed of 50 shades of brown, I knew the game must have been ass.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well today we have a fad of fortnite looking games

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Black is the only exception for me, good old ps2 goodness

    • @dvdbox360
      @dvdbox360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@canobenitez what about Spec Ops The Line, and yes i do play Black before the graphic is ahead of it time a year before first Crysis

    • @imembridibuddha
      @imembridibuddha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@aceofhearts573 Serious brown shooters >>>>>>>>>>> cartoony art and over the top weapon skins

    • @blitzaurora3393
      @blitzaurora3393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sad part is, the tech demo for the game was still awesome. When the game came out, the only feature still left from that demo was the ability to scope in on some weapons

  • @TheFreestylevids
    @TheFreestylevids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    REMEMBER YOUR PROMISE TO MERINNNNOOO

    • @Ghost_Of_SAS
      @Ghost_Of_SAS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the day Mantel falls.

  • @stevenhay7147
    @stevenhay7147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's just crazy how one bad game is enough to send a talented studio under

    • @unfa00
      @unfa00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Game development is a rocky adventure.

  • @unfa00
    @unfa00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Takeaway: if you have limited time and budget, don't develop a custom engine and the game on it at the same time.

  • @greatestgamer00
    @greatestgamer00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love haze. after finding out who they devs were i could see the elements of their old games.

  • @DaTrixie
    @DaTrixie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, had high hopes for Haze. Also your voice reminds me of the "Fallout Storyteller" . Very relaxing 😊

  • @brizzy1237
    @brizzy1237 หลายเดือนก่อน

    currently rewatching all of your content

  • @salaciouscreations4323
    @salaciouscreations4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the biggest crimes in computer games history is the lack of timesplitters. Haze was around the timeshift and pariah when studios appeared a bit more shook up from far cry being so amazing for a console port. We had a few out there games which were ok. Just never got any traction which is a shame as exclusive can have a damaging effect on some classics.

  • @Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime
    @Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey congratulations on 100 videos on your channel and I subscribed.

  • @BoondockGore
    @BoondockGore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your work on the socom series had me so nostalgic 😢 😭

  • @zeldris9993
    @zeldris9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love these vids always entertaining to watch☺

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Out of respect for this fallen game and dev as well as my twice-resurrected-yet-still-fallen-ps3; I'm gonna replay this in RPCS3 now you reminded me of its existence :) so thanks!!

    • @SECONDQUEST
      @SECONDQUEST 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do timeshift as well.

    • @VandelayH
      @VandelayH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No youare’re not.

    • @kupokinzyt
      @kupokinzyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SECONDQUEST TimeShift is so much better.

  • @decibelfilm
    @decibelfilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm calling it; one of the big videos next year is going to be 'The Rise and Fall of Dying Light'.

  • @freewheeler8924
    @freewheeler8924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I very much enjoyed Haze. I particularly loved the tactical gameplay - it was a game you could play intelligently, and not just another stupid twitch-shooter.

  • @IntoxiKaded
    @IntoxiKaded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for this video for a long time!!!
    Haze had many problems but I always felt like the story had great potential. I hope it gets rebooted one day.

  • @Trap7
    @Trap7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Say hello to Moreno!"

  • @fernan2342
    @fernan2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    High quality upload as always!

  • @mohamednail1707
    @mohamednail1707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Haze is an example of cool idea and plot executed so poorly

  • @Lasagnaisprettycool
    @Lasagnaisprettycool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if they released a new Timesplitters for the PS5 and Xbox. Beautiful graphics, vibrant colors, super smooth framerates, splitscreen and online coop and pvp, map editor....

    • @chooky4626
      @chooky4626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It'd release as Early Access with a battlepass and/or some other bs :(

  • @ElManuHDD
    @ElManuHDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The good thing about all this is that Free Radical Design is back thanks to Deep Silver and will develop a new game of Timesplitters

  • @Layaway_Virgin
    @Layaway_Virgin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn an add for Dying Light like 7 years late! This made my day.

  • @iratepirate3896
    @iratepirate3896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I remember this. Such a shame it died because of the grey and brown bloom nonsense of the mid-2000s

    • @IronThumbs
      @IronThumbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess you should blame Silent Hill 2 and Resident Evil 4 for that

    • @tomstonemale
      @tomstonemale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Crispies lol no. Those games can even be compared to influence CoD had on consoles, not even close.

    • @IronThumbs
      @IronThumbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tomstonemale He is talking about the overly saturated market of games that lack "color" from that time. Call of Duty 4 is one of them, but not the one responsible.

    • @brandonjones5879
      @brandonjones5879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the first Gears kind of started that.

    • @tomstonemale
      @tomstonemale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IronThumbs not really.Sure unreal engine 3 games have the same colour pallette but when CoD 4 and MW2 make 70% of the profit from videogame console market alone those years, yeah I blame CoD for making the grey, brown and bloom colour scheme popular.

  • @ether92
    @ether92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All I can remember from this game is Nectar.

  • @KaptainArabia
    @KaptainArabia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are the best keep the good work 👍

  • @Majjoo06
    @Majjoo06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Brought to you by Dying Light !”
    Man techland is reaching places, if they’re sponsoring channels now.

  • @richardhowells5804
    @richardhowells5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember being hyped for this back in the day, when I was daft enough to get hyped about a game from it's trailers.

  • @bartvy
    @bartvy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember really enjoying playing the coop splitscreen campaign with my friends back in the day.

  • @lordgrimble2144
    @lordgrimble2144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you guys should do a video about the Army Of Two series!

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much for once amazing studio behind Timesplitters games! Good to know the reborn as Deep Silver! xDD

  • @user-cw9hy1ds6c
    @user-cw9hy1ds6c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This reminds me of cyberpunk too much, building the engine while building the game, higher up’s being responsible for the games fuck up. Being apart of the gaming industry is every kids wet dream when you know nothing about it.

  • @JoelElRican
    @JoelElRican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Timesplitters is a classic for me and my little brother, during our childhood. Kinda wish it would get rebooted.

    • @TheRoger46
      @TheRoger46 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you might be happy to hear that Free Radical is back with a lot of the original team and they are currently working on a new Timesplitters project!

  • @InceRumul
    @InceRumul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This voice could be describing the history of manilla envelopes and I'd still be captivated.

  • @Robinbermann
    @Robinbermann 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had second sight on the tip of my tongue sooooo long, thanks for clearing that up!

  • @MontaguStudios
    @MontaguStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific video as always. However, you forgot to mention about Korn. They made a song for the game.

  • @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
    @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, dying light as sponsor? That was Amazing

  • @zakmorgan9320
    @zakmorgan9320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also had no idea haze was made by the timesplitters team, used to play that game every year with my cousin's. Amazing split screen experience

  • @SirTimmy7
    @SirTimmy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Do The Rise and Fall of Dungeon Keeper next

  • @mikeyder344
    @mikeyder344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The games 30th anniversary? I love y'all lol

  • @realdragonrude
    @realdragonrude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video
    Can you do one about the conduit series?
    I really want to know
    what happend to the conduit 3?

  • @Beanibirb
    @Beanibirb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Free Radical is back btw, making a TimeSplitters remake

  • @embracerodusk2537
    @embracerodusk2537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was really hyped for this game when they first announced it because it looked like they were trying to create a Perfect Dark replacement at the time.
    Unfortunately, it didn't turn out so hot.

  • @busgussab881
    @busgussab881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the dying light ad around 7 years from the games release

  • @oxeexo6540
    @oxeexo6540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so awesome TechLand sponsored this vid. If you haven't played dying light i HIGHLY recommend it and the amazing DLCs it has.

  • @GoldBearanimationsYT
    @GoldBearanimationsYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why was there an ad for dying light

  • @xanderharris5814
    @xanderharris5814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an amazing channel.

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's stories like these that I always think of whenever the latest game is out and underperforming (I know, practically all the titles coming out of the wealthiest publishers 😒) and I'm tempted to start firing broadsides at the studio !
    No one sets out to make a sub-par game, but often it's the people with the creativity that are the more exploitable. You went public and made tons on shares but now you're at the beck and call of the investors, and they couldn't give a rat's backside whether the game has a good story or is faithful etc nope, they're waiting to hear words like :
    Multiplayer
    Seasons
    Season Pass
    Cosmetics
    Licensed tie-ins
    Live Service
    Predicted revenue
    Revenue
    Where's our money ?
    Thanks for putting this together man, really appreciate your production values 👌

  • @TheRenegadist
    @TheRenegadist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait! Whaaaaat!? Doak and Ellis are still making games? That's absolutely incredible! Any news on new projects?

  • @victoriaevelyn3953
    @victoriaevelyn3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love timesplitters and still own all my three copies of the three games they will never leave me haze killed timesplitters 4 in my eyes

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s sad haze killed it’s own studio because the game could’ve been great.

  • @realhamonwry8620
    @realhamonwry8620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do cover the meteoric failure that was Hellgate: London.

  • @roninblitz2159
    @roninblitz2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the box art for haze was sooo cool

  • @abigor3817
    @abigor3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I remember listening to Korn and hearing the song they made for Haze, so I decided to look into the game and man I got hyped so much about it - one of my favorite bands recorded a song for it, it had coop so I could play it with my stepdad and generally looked cool on promotions.
    But yeah after playing through it once needless to say I got disappointed in game even then. I did enjoy MP to an extent and the opposing forces had nice mechanics in their power struggle imo

  • @Ghost_Of_SAS
    @Ghost_Of_SAS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _"Remember your promise to Merino!"_

  • @Lock2002ful
    @Lock2002ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love this channel.

  • @stoneprevious4294
    @stoneprevious4294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:41 How time flies

  • @CHMgamemedic777
    @CHMgamemedic777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would love to see a video on how BF2042 has killed it's own franchise!

    • @Gary_M
      @Gary_M 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bet it's a tragedy!

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It didn't, lol. That's like saying Vanguard killed Call of Duty.

  • @keshxiv
    @keshxiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HAZE BROS ITS OUR TIME...

  • @DcCock
    @DcCock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember the hype train around this. Console wars and fanboyism were strong back then so PS3 players were hyping this up as a Halo-killer and a Crysis-killer. The pre-release screenshots made the visual fidelity look amazing too.

    • @Razgriz_01
      @Razgriz_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember that, the "game-killer" trend for advertising games. I think after Haze, they stopped doing that. Not sure if game publishers and reviewers would use that again lol

  • @SourRobo8364
    @SourRobo8364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need an HD remaster/port for Timesplitters now.

  • @AlzdemX
    @AlzdemX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember the demo had more players than the full release and i loved playing the multiplayer.

  • @frankaliberti
    @frankaliberti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I had no idea Dying Light had come out in 1991. Crazy!!