Psychic Screams for Ice Cream
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I have to admit, as a Christian, I was initially uncomfortable when I realized where this was going. After listening to the whole thing and thinking about it, however, I actually really like this. For context, the gospels and book of Acts mention that Judas was a thief. He managed the group's finances so he could skim cash for himself, presumably not believing that he was traveling with someone who was omniscient. The 30 silver he was paid in is about what it would cost to buy a common slave (or the average man's wages for 100 days), meaning he sold out the King of Kings for the cost of a slave to work a field. He used that money to buy a farm, where he would subsequently kill himself and that nobody would touch after his death. Replacing him with the Emperor, obviously replaces the sin of greed with that of pride. He could not tolerate anyone whom he believed to be as powerful as himself (amusingly elevating his ego to that of actual blasphemy), especially since Christ's message ran counter to everything the Emperor believes and his fear of Christ's power growing to eclipse his. He may have faked his death to escape, but given what eventually happens, the traitor still meets his fate. In his pride, he fails to see how close he was to true greatness and glory and deals with the weight of his sin millennia later by confessing to those whom he can force to forget. He clearly feels guilt for his actions, but his ego refuses to tolerate repentance. Luke describes the devil entering Judas during his betrayal, casting the Emperor as Judas means that, for all his power and intelligence he was simply a pawn.
Obviously, 40k is by no means built upon Christian morals or theology, and I'd be a fool for claiming anything else. I just think it's interesting how replacing Judas with the Emperor, making him an arch-traitor in his own right, reflects upon his character.
Could not agree more
In short: Big E is just makes way too much sense.
40k has alot of Christian imagery in it and I might even say theology. Or at least it pulls quite a few ideas from our Bible. Like the Mechanicus who worship the Machine God, the Omnissiah and the Machine Spirit as a trinity, which obviously is pulled from God, Christ and the Holy Spirit. Then there's Sanguinius who seems to be a mixture of Arc angel Micheal and Jesus seeing as he looks like Micheal and has his fury but like Jesus, he was also soft and kind and knowingly went towards a death he didn't want but took upon for the betterment of humanity. Even the Primarchs could be linked to the "great men" of the Nephillim. It's all really cool and I for one find the similarities interesting when I spot them.
Plus the Astartes are literally just space Catholics/knights lol, cmon the Crusades?
I 100% agree, tho I remember that Judas did try to give the money back after he realized he had screwed up. Big E would never lol
What I disagree on is the christian theology and moral things. Big E was turned into an ultra atheist because it was in fashion on the 2010's but 90% of all the imagery, monsters, metaphors, names, heck even situations come from Christianity. Depending on the lore, a Christian is what stood before Horus and Big E, not because he could win, but because his own morals and faith demanded it.
And while I greatly dislike the idea of the perpetuals, Olly Pious is still a GigaChad.
Bro it's a comedy piece you don't have to add theological justification and background
"I feel your about to tell me something really unhinged" coming from angron with a tingle of fear is hilarious
Out of any of his sons Angron was the best choice to be the witness to the Emperor's "old man ramblings"
And as a Lobotomite, no one will believe him.
@@gabrielpardo4229 that's not even going to play a role, since the emperor deleted his memories anyways
I especially love how every time Angron interrupts Emps is just like "sh sh sh I'm monologuing"
Guess big E should have stuck with Jesus then maybe he would have learned how to come back from the dead successfully.
Not even the Istavaan System could recover from a burn like that
Oof, even Slaanesh would see that burn as too much lol
Zing!!
Khorne over here is enjoying the slaughter you just committed right now.
Exterminatus level burn
The emperor casually admitting that he was Judas sent me rolling on the ground laughing.
Jimmy Space was Judas Space all along
I like how Ferrous is more like a dad to the various primarchs than the Emperor
He was a-head of his time
Honestly. That's how I always perceived him.
He's like a hardened elder brother. Even to his sons. He wanted to help them become better and wane them off their mania and obsessions.
Even his parallel obsessions of perfection to fulgrim. Is not to become perfect. But to be better than before.
But he was taken too early tragically.
I hope we either get prequels to HH and expand him. Get more snippets from G-man and the lion about him. Or make him return as a lesion of the damnd primarch.
@@grendelbacani445get out
2saisai or the Emperor brings him back through the Legion of the damned, along with Rylanor to give Fulgrim a second kick in the immaterial ass.
@@EMan-1920 Even worse kick in Fulgrims immaterial ass would be if Fulgrim (The Clone one with original soul) was released at large, showing Daemon Fulgrim that his fall could have been easily avoided.
*Angron's inner thoughts*
"Holy shit, Gar was right!"
Basically
Shame Big E erased Angron's memory, I would've loved to see him talking to Logar.
Angron{ Gar you were right, Dad *IS* crazy!
Logar{ Told you!
@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677I think it could be possible that by hearing certain words/phrases (eg. "Nailed it!"), Angron slowly remembers this conversation with Big E.
That would be perfect
The fact Agron called the Big E a snitch is something i didnt know i needed to hear til now.
It’s very weird to hear Angron on the compassionate, moral side of an argument
The Emperor sounds familiar, but I can't place it.
Wait, HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE JUDAS!?
With his donkey, Horus.
his son, horse
So he sold out Jesus. Damn, thats a mind fuck.
Jonathan Keeble's the voice, he narrated a bunch of Warhammer audiobooks like the Gotrek and Felix series and Helsreach.
"If I am a monster then I must be Godzilla"
Thats just darn good suave there.
I lost it at "I feel like you're about to tell me something really unhinged."
Angron seemed strangely chill in this.
Also, the Emperor was Judas huh? Kinda makes sense, considering all the... genocide.
I like how, somehow, this is the Emperor in its worst take on the character and it works perfectly.
(Worst as in more evil, douchy and a total bastard, not as in "badly made")
As a Christian I must say, this was the most unhinged and hilarious thing I ever watched from vox to nowhere
The scary thing about this I can totally believe that Big E did all that. It even fits with the “better” versions of him by saying it was when he was relatively younger and more rash.
Jesus being a perpetual makes perfect sense in the canon. It also goes a long way towards explaining why all the other perpetuals left the Emperor, leaving only Malcador at the end.
Emperor, you deserve every second on the golden throne. Suffer for all eternity.
Angron, let's go for dairy free ice cream. Treat's on me.
Id like some ice cream :( I was innocent
@@theone-tg4eyBring the whole gang!
What in the great golden crapper is a dairy free ice cream? You meant sorbet? Or popsicles?
@@arnantphongsatha7906Golden crapper 😂
No, it's most likely soy/nut based "milk" (soy, almond, coconut....), so it's still a sort of cream, just not dairy. Sorbet/popsicles are made with water.
i'd like to think jesus is watching from the warp seeing the emperor be praised as a god despite all his wishes and just silently laughing at how karma certainly exists
Ferrus is being treated right here. Cuddly metal boy
The REAL Dad
love how big E actually kind of tried being nice to angron, an offer for ice cream and an attempt at empathy for his nails, all before it devolves into a god complex rambling. it's just simply not in his nature to be human, a flaw gratefully overlooked with his sons
Overlooked until they didn't, lol
If you ever adapt the Horus Heresy itself, can I kindly request that Angron kills a Custodes or something while shouting “THIS IS FOR JESUS, YOU FUCK!”
Bruh, I think this is actually my favorite Emperor fanon. Imagine Red Angel Angron screaming Judas at the Warp Emperor and that's what causes a chaos victory.
The "Game theory" quote fucking killed me!
Big E: I was Judas.
Me a Christian: that explains SO MUCH.
That makes emps look even more unhinged as he usualy is depicted. Also a suprisingly human Angron.
How is Malcador not near The Emperor to stop him from rambling about the skeletons in his golden closet!
Oh no wonder Angorn hated the Emperor considering if this how he acted with him.
Fitting that the genocidal, irrationally anti-religious psychopath was also responsible for the crucification of Christ and that he simply did it because he was loved more than himself.
There are a great many levels of irony to this that I love.
Damn this representation of the Big E is kinda horrifying with how cold he is. Which is odd because in most books besides like Master of Mankind he's lowkey pretty compassionate towards his boys.
The heck are you talking about, the man is an absolute psychopath. Don't get me wrong, he is good at manipulating his children, but he is nowhere near anything remotely associated with "compassion".
Lol don't read up on what he did to Angron. Emps is a fucking rotten sociopath bastard.
Yeah , ADB really got his wish come true with that book. Half the fandom has their perceptions of Jimmy Space washed by it
@@cncmne7404 Yeah he's like this in basically that one book, written by a guy that openly prefers chaos lol. He even admitted that he really could've done that book, and the Emperor better. I prefer the Emperor with some actual emotion but who can turn cold as he's that kinda guy. This version just feels too one dimensional, robotic, unlikeable and bland. As if this is all he is.
But oh well, what can you do but hope to educate some fans
@@ironduke5058 Regardless of what ADB wrote, the fact that Angron suffered for the entirety of the Great Crusade is proof enough of the Emperor not giving a shit. He openly used all of the primarchs as tools. If Angron couldn't have been saved, he should have granted terminal mercy. Don't come at me with this Reddit shit about educating some fans.
Y'know with how accuate you made Big E here, he def would award himself after psychically cloning himself in front of a live audience of himself. Along with considering he's Judas, then he deserves all the L's coming his way.
Love how incredibly accurate this Big E is, while at the same time sounding like something straight out of Robot Chicken.
"I feel like you're about to tell me something really unhinged..."
. . . Dude...
"He got a book written about him. I got this bitchin palace and a space empire. If I'm a monster I must be Godzilla."
This is so perfectly Big E lmao
This was absolutely amazing writing. It's kind of scary how the emperor's fear of Jesus's growing power and the logic of his betrayal, could easily be applied to Horus. In the books, Horus knew Erebus was deceiving him, choosing to ignore Mangus's warnings, sort of like the emperor, choosing to betray Jesus despite Jesus telling him during the Last Supper, "one of you will betray me."
ironically, The Emperor also knew some of his sons would betray him, and yet he played it out.
Also, I like how cold and unhuman the emperor was in this, it just makes too much sense. When he told Konrad, "You cannot begin to fathom what I have done," this video kind of encapsulates the lengths the emperor truly is willing to go to achieve a purpose.
in which video does the emp say that to Conrad?
@@henrypaleveda7760 That isn't from one of these videos, it's from the Konrad Curze book. Sorry that I did not see your comment for so long, I have notifications turned off. The Emperor has a conversation with Konrad, and Konrad tries to lash out at the Emperor, and the Emperor lashes back at him.
The conversation goes, as follows:
"There is not enough punishment for what you have done! Not in this life, or in the next!" shouted Curze.
Big E: "How dare you presume to understand what I have done, and what sacrifices I have made, and what I now must suffer? The force of the voice battered Curze back. "You will never know the depths of my pain, for which I am grateful."
Curze opened his eyes to peer sidelong at the figure. ‘Why such hollow words?’
The voice took a moment before it returned, again with thunderous force that made Curze howl.
Big E: "No father wishes his sons to suffer, no matter what burdens he is forced to place upon them."
@@nightlordnorris4446 No worries for taking a while.Thank you for taking the time to answer my question and type out the quote too!
@@henrypaleveda7760 No problem! :)
Does he not say that Konrad cannot begin to fathom what he has sacraficed? I seem to remember the conversation going more along the lines of something like:
"You deserve everything that's happening to you" "I know, and so do you, but I don't want to see you suffer like I am"
Pretty cool you picked the second best audio book narrator for the emperor 😄
Please tell me Toby Longworth's your number 1 :')
@@voxcasttonowhereofficial yes!! Too bad he has not done more books.
Edit: I really fucked this sentence up in pure excitement of you guessing right haha.
@@ToTheNines87368 I agree, he definitely needs to be in more books, especially imperial guard! Hell, I'd kill to have him do 10th edition Dark Angels books. Could you imagine how AMAZING he'd sound as the Lion??
@@voxcasttonowhereofficial given how well he did Horus and every other character, I think he’d do The Lion extremely well. Hell he even does the female characters so subtly I don’t even really notice.
Emperor Judas is exactly what Horus was screaming about... the emperor is a troll.
''You joined the call, snoring somehow'' LOVE the subtext there XD
Ya know, it makes sense now. Why the Emperor found that an empire of conquest is the best for the human race. He took inspiration from Rome and adapted his own pseudo-latin terminology for his "Imperium."
The thing I find horrifying but also love about this is like
I don't think he truly sees what he is doing as wrong, I don't think he even realises that his behaviour is out of line with anything that should be expected of a father, a friend and a leader, he knows the calculus of power and how to manipulate people but I don't think he's able to understand what it means to the average person to be human, of course he also does know but doesn't consider it the right way
I really enjoy the depiction, there's no malice or callous disregard, its like an alien pretending to be a man, it reminds me of OldManReacts: "He was fighting for the soul of humanity, a soul he barely understood and he was fighting for it against four beings who knew it better than any of us could ever hope to"
Also the touch about being lactose intolerant was genius whether intentional or not since he was born before that genetic resistance to it became widespread in Europe
Edit:
To add to my appreciations I also love how this shows why the primarchs would want to betray him, trying to emotionally bond with someone like this would be soul-rending, its no wonder the other perpetuals all left him in disgust
I love how newer fans of this fictional universe and die hard Emperium fans are like this is an off take on the Emps. Understand that when Angron once said if he was a better man he’d truly fight the Emperor for making the Primarchs go out and enslave other planets to the Emperium (I forget which novel that’s in). The Emperor being the only hope for humanity was never a good thing, he’s a mass murdering tyrant. Welcome to the grim dark folks. I have to say, making Ferrus Manus the cool big brother in this series is a touching bit of fan artistry. It makes knowing what’s to come that more painful. Outstanding work.
Can’t believe a conversation between the Emperor and my favourite Primarch dropped on my Birthday. Thank you HimboHorus. It was an awesome coincidence.
Well, after the revelation that Big E is Judas, I suppose his friendship with Ollanius Pius just got even more odd than the latter may think.
and big e wonders why his sons want him dead
"I bought a donkey names horus" lmao
"So that's when I betrayed Jesus christ."
I wouldn't be able to make this shit up, even if I tried. Amazing. Didn't expect to the the emperor in one of these.
"If I'm a monster, I must be Godzilla" is the hardest line I've heard in a while
Always aim to be the best
SLUMBER NUMBER 12 always gets me..its so freakin funny😂😂😂
Imagine the current emperor on the Throne suddenly seeing an old man simply walking in the room, with holes on each hand.
"Hello, Judas, my old friend. Or should I say... Emperor? The heavens truly are ironic, considering your fate. All that I ask you is... Do you regret your choices? Were the sacrifices you've made worth it? I know you'll probably not answer me right now. I'll be waiting for you in the heavens above. Be sure to come once you finally feel at peace. Also... You have good taste, basing the culture and architecture of your Empire on the imagery pioneered by my sons."
I'm not sure what would be funnier, the Emperor calling all of the primarchs by number (even his supposed favorites) or just the ones that will turn traitor.
He did call Roboute by name in this series
This version of the emperor got what he deserved.
"I want to say...Aaron?" 😆😂🤣
I threw my phone when I heard the Jesus part!!! My jaw has not been recovered from the floor since.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447god Damn auto correct that bastard.
Emperor just described himself as Judas.
@@justme42300 No it’s the fact that he’s talking about Jesus at all felt wild. It was still greatly unhinged.
@@magpieinthelibrary5691 Yeah it felt a little too in character for it to be a funny joke. Disturbing, but on the nose
6:53
“Which one?”
“Both.”
“…okay.”
I love this fucking channel so much. These theoretical what-if glimpses into the Primarchs and their lives? The give me so much to think about, I enjoy them long after I've finished watching them.
Magic of memes and these fanfics
As an Aarron myself, them nails do be tingling
OH GODS! This is amazing! I have never Hated the Emperor more than in this video for all the lol he gave me!
I think there are no words to say that the Emperor is the worst father in the galaxy and that he deserved not only to be betrayed but also to be given the biggest beating of his perpetual life and that at the same time he saw how all his great work failed.
"And that doesn't remind you of anyone" i died
a very good video, only a slight criticism: when the emperor says "Slumber! number 12!" it sounds like he's talking about a "12th slumber", rather than ordering angron to slumber
Ah yeah, I didn't catch that while editing, but I definitely hear it now
You know, NFL season is around the corner. How about a video where the primarchs debate their favorite NFL team?
Ooo that's a solid idea there
I second it!
I'm honestly surprised that hasn't been a vid yet. I got a suggestion as well; The primarchs discuss about which fictional xeno could they beat in a fight (Like Thanos for example)
@@voxcasttonowhereofficialBrothers, which is your favorite sport clan of Merica (canon 40K name)
As a non USian, that'd be terrible for any of us not living there. Pokemon and Dragonball are international, we all know about them, but US sportsball? Not so much. :/
Big E being Judas is the kind of fuckery I'd expect from him
"And that doesn't remind you of anyone?"
I feel there should be two versions of the Emperor Angron meets. One is the cold calculating domineering warlord and the other is the father and loving guardian of humanity.
Woah pretty cool idea actually, didn't think about it. Vox🗣️!!
Realizing Big E was Judas, the forbidden lore, the lactose, the mind wipe, all of it’s perfect. 10/10
BRO, THIS WHOLE THING JUST GAVE ME HUGE UMBRELLA ACADEMY VIBES #12
Ah, glad to see another Umbrella Academy enjoyer!
@@voxcasttonowhereofficial Your work has been fantastic. You've really captured the essence of the Primarks in your takes. Thanks for the great content. Let's cheer for another season of Umbrella xD
And with one video you capture the very essence of the Emperor. Entitled Giga-Narcissist doesn't even get close. 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧
I like how the Primarch's are all bros that (mostly) look out for each other's needs and the Emperor is the least self aware person in the galaxy.
New Headcanon right here. It makes the Emperor being evil actually make sense.
I’ve had Tech Noir by Gunship on repeat for like 2 months now
It'll never leave you
Wait until their new album comes out this month!
you too huh?
same
Hearing a relatively calm Angron call Emps out on his shit is satisfying.
Big E being petty. tom petty.
Wait a second, he "often thinks" about his time with Jesus, while being Big E and going around destroying half the galaxy, enslaving humanity? Is something deep inside of himself realizing he is, indeed, a monster?
Meanwhile on the Golden Throne.
???: Hey Judas
Big E: It can’t be!?
Jesus: What’s up bud?
Big E: How? I made sure that all traces of you were gone?
Jesus: Yeah it turns out there is a point where a god becomes so powerful they don’t need followers or active worship. So call me the Chaos God of Compassion.
Big E: What do you want? To gloat.
Jesus: No Judas. I’ve come to tell you I forgive you.
Big E: Don’t you lie to me you dirty Carpenter.
Jesus: That’s you problem Emperor, you can’t just accept the Truth in front of you. That’s the difference between the two of us. I chose to be one of them where you chose to be above them. You called yourself the Emperor of Mankind, but you don’t understand the people.
Big E: I didn’t want this to happen.
Jesus: I know old friend.
Big E: It’s all my fault.
Jesus: There is still time.
Big E: I HAVE FAILED!
Jesus: Enough! Yes you have failed, but this galaxy is not beyond saving. But unlike you I believe in their better nature. Not just the humans, but the Eldar, Tau, even the Orks. You may not be the one to guide them out of the darkness, but you can still give them a fighting chance.
Big E: Always the optimist and fool.
Jesus: And maybe one day, you can forgive yourself.
🔥🔥🔥✍️
This is good, real good.
Just gotta love Ferrus as a caring brother/bro. It has more character here than anywhere in the official lore.
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
For the single-minded ball of rage he's often portrayed as, Angron is such a tragic character. While his brothers carved empires, toppled corrupt governments, led the planets they were sent on to rebel and find peace and stability, he was a slave. Used for gladiatoric sports, implanted with the Butcher's Nails to make him a raging berserker, and when he finally rallied his comrades to a battle to fight for their freedom, he was denied it and had to watch everyone die for nothing. He was left with such a bitter rage for the Emperor and more often than not lashed out at his own Legion. While his other brothers were important tools to build the Imperium through conquest and subjugation, he was simple a weapon to be pointed in the direction of the enemy with no regards to his safety or well being. It's easy to see why he joined Chaos in the Heresy in the first place. If he was written with a bit more nuance beside "rarr rarr smash kill" you'd actually feel sympathy for him. He was set up for failure from the start.
Also Ferrus being an absolute caring bro is the best thing I've ever seen him portrayed as. Shame he never got fleshed out properly, from what I know anyways. I haven't kept up with 40k for a good ten years or so, so take that with a grain of salt.
even then, angron never wanted to become a demon prince of khorne. he honestly was down with finnally dying at his homeorld finnally ending his suffering, but lorgar, in both sympathy and arrogance aranged for him to to ascended against his will to become a demon prince. he really was the most tragic primarch because from the start he never had a choice
It begs the question that if they were unable to remove the nails why the fuck was Angron allowed to keep running around? Like put the poor fucker in a stasis capsule till you figure it out or just do the poor bastard a favor and have him make like Lenny and look at the rabbits. Also it is Ironic that Big E was saved by a man who still worshipped Big E’s greatest rival because it was confirmed that Ollanious Pious was “Catheric” so effectively a practicing Catholic older than Christianity itself considering he sailed with Jason aboard the Argo way back when
Oh my god... This conversation is such a coincidence because you chose angron to be having this conversation with Big E because JESUS and ANGRON are similar!! Not by appearance or attitude no no its that angron original primarch abilities is so similar to jesus as well like holy shit!! This video is the best one!!!
Okay. From now on, I'm calling Angron, Aaron.
And, we know that the Emperor was a shithead.
This Vox-verse version of Big E is something else man, what a bombshell twist 😢😢😢😢😢…
Keeble as the big E is a wonderful choice
I would love a video of sanguinius and the emperor interacting
On the one hand great stuff, makes the emperor super petty and creepy but also I am getting the vibe he has some sort of psychic dementia or something.
As cool and philosophical the more serious videos are, i enjoy these funny ones so much more, i was smiling from beginning to end
So the Emperor is Judas?
Makes so much sense.
DAMN, shit got dark too fast
Mal: Emperor, NO!
E: EMPEROR, YES!
Spures an idea: Jesus is totally a warp entity. Probably a weak/practically nonexistent at this point, but at the minimum *was* one at some point.
Late comment on this one but mr. Keeble as big E just proves you got style with this
That's a comment I'm undeserving of Richard 🥹
Nah, my dude, it's all due. I really appreciate your stuff
God the Ferrus/Fulgrim wholesome interactions make it hurts more listening to Angel Exterminatus seeing how thing turned out...😭
Omg the emporer was Judas 😱
The emperor calling him Aaron was the best part! 🤣
This was hilarious, and not only because I despise the Emperor. He was a better corpse than a living man and did more good in death than he ever did in life.
The God Emperor of Mankind, A literal GOD, is weak to cow fluids.
Lore accurate depiction of Big E. All the people in the comment section going on about how nice he could be to the Primarchs fail (or don't want to) put him into context. The context is:
He's a megalomaniacal, blood soaked tyrant who drove everyone of his peers away by being too fascist and bloodthirsty. He created an army of supersoldiers led by warp powered super generals, which he got by making and breaking a deal with the warp powers he said he wanted to neutralize. His plan was always built on genocide of anyone and everyone who wouldn't bend the knee.
So what if he manages to placate his Primarch's sense of pride and ego by acting like he respects them? Sociopaths and narcissists do this every day in the real world, it doesn't make them lowkey good people.
This video of course is comedy, but it succeeds so well because it understands the entirety of the lore instead of cherry picking from it to paint a more flattering picture of its greatest tyrant.
"A Game Theroy"
Damn that was brutal
This is even more f@&ked when you realize Angrons original purpose and big E being frustrated that Angron was ruined thanks to the butchers nails.
this is literally one of my favorite video series. So damn well written and funny!
So the Emperor cause the dark age and the reason we are 1000 year undeveloped in technology.
No wonder one of the GW CEO says: GW stock isn’t important at all, because he knew what he was selling…
WH40K will be accused as a fascist enhancement device if it truly receives mainstream media attention.
Sounds about right for the master of hubris.