It's really sad that Konrad didn't even mean to attack Dorn. He had a mental breakdown and when he came back to sanity, he wept over Rogal's body in horror and shame.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 I disagree. An Abuser is fully conscious of what they're doing. Konrad was having a schizophrenic episode. He wasn't even Konrad when it happened, he was Night Haunter. The man has split-personality disorder, and therefore, while he is a vile bastard, he's one with very little recognizable control of his actions. Make no mistake, Konrad IS a monster, but a big part of his cruelty and his character is his inability to understand how much choice he has in the matter. He has an entire personality that overrides his mind and telling him the worst possible outcome is pre-destined.
@@briantarigan7685 when the Autismo in question has shown multiple times that he gets off on torture and bloodshed. Yeah I think it’s reasonable to never trust what they claim.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651Maybe, maybe Kurze actually recognised what he had done. This dude needs to be held accountable in full, but he also needs a primarch-sized exorcism.
@@randomcenturion7264 He has an overwhelming victim complex and fatalistic mindset. I’m going to have to side with my Primarch on this matter and say that Konrad is completely untrustworthy and I don’t feel sorry for him because he admits multiple times to enjoying what he does knowing it’s not as effective a method for compliance as say Guilliman or any other Primarch excluding the Red Angel, The Lion or the Urizen.
This is very moving, but underrated movement is Konrad quoting Heart of Darkness and Sanguinius being like "yeah of course i've read it it's me" LMAOOO
Sangunius was always believing the future wasn't set in stone, but Konrad believed the opposite. one always believed in a hopeful future. But the other gave into despair.
how in the cinnamon toast hells are you able to make "haha, bros on discord" comedy then turn around and make the most on point. dramatic and thematically appropriate video to the lore I have seen in forever? Serious props to you.
The creepy thing? "Night Haunter" has never been revealed to be Chaos trickery. It never compelled him to join the "Great Game." That damage to his mind is something else. Something so deep within his soul not even The Emperor or the Dark Gods could truly direct it.
@@randomcenturion7264He doesn’t see the goodness in himself or the world. You get the feeling that he so desperately wants to, but literally all he can see is horrible possibilities and grew up on a planet of criminals. The man never even had a chance.
People love to compare Konrad and Corvus, but I’ve always prescribed to the comparison is closer in opposites between these two. The Angel of Hope, and the Night Haunter of Despair.
Firstly, Great writing. Konrad was perfection here. Sanguinious only had two issues I think. Calling Monarchia necessary, and saying that the primarchs were only human and flawed. They ARE MONSTERS, but monsters that hold humanity within them, even Konrad. Oh. The voices were also on point!
Seriously, sometimes I wish Conrad was also born with wings and known as “Black Angel” just to perfect the duality between them. This some great stuff.
I mean if the rumors are to be believed and Konrad had a soul gem on the crown he wore apon his assassination, then he could be brought back, and me personally I would love to see Konrad return as the night haunter, maybe a loyalist, or even return to bring true justice to the galaxy under his own banner.
I’ve always felt bad for Konrad. He can’t see the goodness in the universe or himself. He wants too…he so desperately wants too. When he hurt Dorn he cried, he was brought up on a planet of criminals and still tried to instill Justice. It was dark and twisted Justice, but think, this was a planet of the worst of the worst kinds of people, he probably didn’t see another way except for these extremes. He could also only see the bad parts of the future. Imagine, only being able to see the bad parts of your life without your own control over it. The man never had a chance. He was so traumatized, so broken by his life that chaos never even tried to tempt him. His self hate was so internalized that not even the emperor or gods of chaos could change him.
This has to be the best representation of optimism and pessimism of human nature. Konrad never doubted the nature of the grim dark future and what comes with it. Sanguinius looked and saw endless possibilities, he saw both the good and the bad of what the future may bring. But he saw past the worst and caught a glimpse of hope. Konrad Blinked at the Dark backward and ambysm of time. Sanguinius stared it down and saw the light of hope.
Ah the conversation I asked for 😊 Thank you. Also very creepy Konrad describing Sanguinius' death to him. But if Sanguinius didn't believe anything to be set in stone, why did he believe his own death couldn't be avoided? Maybe he is more like Konrad than he likes to admit.
I think it more has to do with Sanguinius knowing the future his death would help bring about was the best outcome therefore he was willing to face the consequence of his life ending for the future to be salvaged.
I feel like a good skit would be that regular people constantly mix up Corax with Curze because they look so similar and they start having a debate on who has to cut their hair first
Damn, now i really want Konrad to play as a DM for his brothers tabletop game. something like lovecraft RPg were he constantly kills and torments the player characters
Well, I am not sure that did not happened before Dorn was wounded... imagine you are trying to tell high atmospheric Call of Cthulhu game full of insanity and darkness. And SOMEONE created an overrational and skeptic engineer and played him... pretty well. But with results you really don't like because it throws game into disarray all times. 😅
I love this. Both of them are right at the same time, but I have to side with Sanguineous. His part about how Konrad wants to be remembered is spot on, and something we should all consider in real life.
👏👏👏👏 Bravo. Haven't heard this exchange, wow - Kurze knew exactly how Sanguinius would die. This suggests Kurze's foresight was even keener that Sanguinius'....
Mannnn they should hire you for the 40k show god damnnn Not only really good writing but the pacing and allusions were off the charts too. The "A Vengeful Spirit" line had me staring in impressed shock at your grasp of allusion and wordplay
Something about this makes me think of an aspect of the primarchs that I think some people forget, whether its for the "bad father emperor" memes or those who try to play down why Lorgar or Konrad would react the way they did with what they grew up with and what they experienced, right up to the burning of Monarchia and the destruction of Nostramo. They're human, yes...but also far from human, almost to the point of being specialized hardwired supercomputers. They're specifically programmed and designed with a purpose in mind, and that purpose drives them, and shapes how they respond to various factors. For Konrad, a being programmed to act as an agent of Justice like Konrad, getting dropped on a criminal cesspit like Nostramo was a worse-case scenario, since he had to build an idea of justice for this population from the ground up. For Lorgar, a being designed after loyalty and grandiloquent service to an idea once he'd imbibed it, there was little to be done after he'd either absorbed or constructed an ideal apart from the emperor's design, as was likely to happen on Colchis. This is why I disagree with some who say other brothers would have acted the same way if they'd landed on different planets, and its also why I think its difficult to get too put out if some didn't react the way we would think is "reasonable." I have in mind someone thinking Lorgar was supposed to get the emperor's message about how its bad to make people kneel under the "Lorgar's Lament" video. They're not really programmed to think of this in the way a normal human might (and in Lorgar's case, he was assigned to make people kneel and forcibly accept a "truth," just not the one the Word Bearers were preaching). As such, I can see where they got frustrated, especially with the limited and sometimes contradictory information they had. In some ways, the Horus Heresy might be considered less a family tragedy, and more an apocalyptic version of Frankenstein in terms of making the primarchs as super powered not-quite-humans by a genius who may not have thought through just what he was creating, with a mix of runaway AI alle HAL from Space Odyssee.
Not it's not about Emperor. Emperor didn't know what his tools will be risen in those planets. Plus Conrad is fookin unlucky landing on Nostramo and he is forced to be what he become a terrorist who doesn't understand that terror tactics starting to fail when the executioner is gone.
@@BIGESTblade yes he didn't know what will happen to his sons. Because he didn't care. Remember he is not their father but creator he only interested to get them back. Their purpose is to be generals no matter what. If he knows what will happen why he didn't help his sons them?. What kind of a father seeing the misery of his sons and don't trying to help them and save them?
@@Warmaster2001 I am fully aware of that. That is exactly why the Emperor made them the way they are. This is the reason why Lion can't read people for shit and why Lorgar is awful at everything that's not preaching. Conrad is the way he is because he was made that way by the Emperor, it's not his fault. Yet despite that he tried his absolute best anyway despite knowing that he was setup to fail since before he was born. If Rogal didn't try to fist fight with him, he might have become the second Jaghatai.
That is so so good. I love the memes, but in the midst of not constantly reading lore you forget how complex the issues of Horus Heresy were. No wonder they needed 60 books. Anyways, I would love to, one day, go through the whole series again with this kind of voicing . Great work!
The levity given from the wrestling, anime and music episodes really drive home these darker more lore acute ones. Hope springs that new outcomes may take place but the horror it will come to pass as it is written, as visions of the future always fortell. Excellent work and writing
Konrad should have been born with bat wings, instead he was given ability to twist his limbs and bones into angels to be the best sewer goblin possible. No wonder he became god of raptors.
That conversation is the single most chilling thing I've heard in recent recollection. Fantastic job on this one, was very refreshing to see something heavy and serious on your channel. It makes wondrous contrast with your banging memes.
For a moment; clarity made itself asserted over Konrad's mind. A clarity most terrible: for there was no more future to behold. The Second's presence dampened what his Nighthaunter brother saw: running a pristine edge against the Immaterial links which gave this curse. And but for one fleeting moment - a Primarch's mind took over. Bereft of the fog of mental mallady and whispers of what had to be; he could almost graze for an answer that could withstand his becoming madness, but it didn't last. As it leaves, undected and prideless, they begin again: first a trickle, then a pour, then finally, a flood. Forgotten was the clarity as was the Silver One from existence and presence. He had remnants to contest.
"Conrad. Your vision is barreled. Looking for one conclusion... One outcome... When you feel that wolf... Don't just feel it's anger.. it's pain... Feel why it's angry... Feel why it's in pain... And understand... That the wolf you are seeing is just your test you placed against yourself to make sure that you'd never turn against your brothers... Winter soilder. Who stalks the darkness between Stars... Yet does not see the star dust in it's wake... And realize how potent your lite is... So bright... That it's dark... Why I ask.. simple your just consumed by your own light... Breath. And realize.. your brother is the same... Just walks a different path with a different test he has placed before himself... And only a matter of time before y'all understand echother... Just... Take the time to talk." ~unknown
These are getting good. Mind you, like Erebus and my previous comment about him, i personally thought Konrad would sound a bit more like Darth Maul, especially how well Sam Witwer pulls off the insane psychopath. 😅
This most haunting thing about this is that Konrad is right. What kind of future would have been if the emperor was left to complete his work? What would have happened to the primarchs and Astartes one his conquest was complete? What happened to the thunder warriors? Could the emperor ever have been satisfied? Or able to accept peace, and sharing of power and culture with his sons? Would they have accepted their roles in an imperium that didn’t need them, or even didn’t want them? It was always going to happen. Konrad was right
Konrad knew. He always knew. And it broke his heart, his mind and his soul. I think one of the last moments of "Konrad" before the Night Haunter took over, was him confiding in Fulgrim. A desperate attempt to warn someone, anyone.
@@randomcenturion7264and he was betrayed. By his friend-mentor who gave him lessons of how to be in this new World of Imperium and Imperial Truth, and he was betrayed by him. Dorn also betrayed him, he used this opportunity to strike upon Konrad with accusations of opposing the Imperium, that his visions are just flat lie and words meant to shatter father vision. Konrad was betrayed, and that is why he broke on Cheraut and while his mind was filled and busy with visions, in reallity he tore onto Dorn with nails and teeth.
@@ИльяЛунев-к6д What's even sadder is Fulgrim didn't mean to betray Konrad's trust. Fulgrim was incredibly insecure and doubted himself so he thought, "Who's the one person I know that's absolutely certain about Father's vision for Mankind?" So he asked Dorn to help. Sadly, he did not count on Dorn being as zealous as he is, thought to be fair when Dorn did find Konrad, he tried, but by this point, Konrad was already hurt by the breach of confidence and Night Haunter seized it.
A preview of more horror to come? That brothers will die and monsters replace them? Or could this have happened because Dorn said Kane was overrated and Konrad is just being overdramatic?
@@giacomoromano8842 I believe he committed such a crime days after this talk. Perhaps the "eternal legacy" ate at him, and the revolting of the Nostraman population definitely didn't help 😅
My two favorite primarch’s and I don’t mean any disrespect towards Fulgrim but I believe it would have been better for sanguinius to have been the teacher for Konrad
It's really sad that Konrad didn't even mean to attack Dorn. He had a mental breakdown and when he came back to sanity, he wept over Rogal's body in horror and shame.
That’s like an abuser saying “I didn’t mean to get so angry.” It’s meaningless
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 I disagree. An Abuser is fully conscious of what they're doing.
Konrad was having a schizophrenic episode. He wasn't even Konrad when it happened, he was Night Haunter. The man has split-personality disorder, and therefore, while he is a vile bastard, he's one with very little recognizable control of his actions.
Make no mistake, Konrad IS a monster, but a big part of his cruelty and his character is his inability to understand how much choice he has in the matter. He has an entire personality that overrides his mind and telling him the worst possible outcome is pre-destined.
@@briantarigan7685 when the Autismo in question has shown multiple times that he gets off on torture and bloodshed. Yeah I think it’s reasonable to never trust what they claim.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651Maybe, maybe Kurze actually recognised what he had done. This dude needs to be held accountable in full, but he also needs a primarch-sized exorcism.
@@randomcenturion7264 He has an overwhelming victim complex and fatalistic mindset. I’m going to have to side with my Primarch on this matter and say that Konrad is completely untrustworthy and I don’t feel sorry for him because he admits multiple times to enjoying what he does knowing it’s not as effective a method for compliance as say Guilliman or any other Primarch excluding the Red Angel, The Lion or the Urizen.
“Of course I’ve read Heart of Darkness.”
kek
This is very moving, but underrated movement is Konrad quoting Heart of Darkness and Sanguinius being like "yeah of course i've read it it's me" LMAOOO
Because Sanguinius is also a brooding edge lord, but he internalizes it
i think it's because the main character's name is also Konrad
When space vampire meets the REAL space vampire
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447Nah. Main Character name is Marlow. Kurtz was last name of character to whom Marlow traveled through Congo's river
Sangunius was always believing the future wasn't set in stone, but Konrad believed the opposite. one always believed in a hopeful future. But the other gave into despair.
Sorry to point it out, but i fear you got them mixed up.
@@giacomoromano8842 sorry I didn't realize I misspelled "wasn't."
@@patrickdees5256 no issue, it just confused me because it switched the characters beliefs. XD
In other words, Konrad was hopelessly pessimistic and that barred him any path to any redemption.
@@Briselance pretty much
how in the cinnamon toast hells are you able to make "haha, bros on discord" comedy then turn around and make the most on point. dramatic and thematically appropriate video to the lore I have seen in forever? Serious props to you.
This creator is someone who gets it
The "Haha, bros on discord" is just camo to not draw the ire of certain evil entity.
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Internally screaming at Sang to give him a damn hug!
I still feel for Conrad deeply.
The Night Haunter is beginning to take over.
The creepy thing? "Night Haunter" has never been revealed to be Chaos trickery. It never compelled him to join the "Great Game." That damage to his mind is something else. Something so deep within his soul not even The Emperor or the Dark Gods could truly direct it.
@@randomcenturion7264He doesn’t see the goodness in himself or the world. You get the feeling that he so desperately wants to, but literally all he can see is horrible possibilities and grew up on a planet of criminals.
The man never even had a chance.
People love to compare Konrad and Corvus, but I’ve always prescribed to the comparison is closer in opposites between these two.
The Angel of Hope, and the Night Haunter of Despair.
Firstly, Great writing. Konrad was perfection here. Sanguinious only had two issues I think. Calling Monarchia necessary, and saying that the primarchs were only human and flawed. They ARE MONSTERS, but monsters that hold humanity within them, even Konrad.
Oh. The voices were also on point!
Seriously, sometimes I wish Conrad was also born with wings and known as “Black Angel” just to perfect the duality between them. This some great stuff.
give him one wing
Dammit I should have put bat wings.
@@slamamander4652 That would be cool also.
I mean if the rumors are to be believed and Konrad had a soul gem on the crown he wore apon his assassination, then he could be brought back, and me personally I would love to see Konrad return as the night haunter, maybe a loyalist, or even return to bring true justice to the galaxy under his own banner.
@@Voodoo-420 The setting could use more (any) renegade marines.
Both Conrad and the Angel would truly bonded for their gifts of foresight and no doubt there should have been conflicts between the both of them.
All Konrad needed was a hug
And therapy. Oodles and oodles of therapy.
Not really Vulks hugs is not far enough but he needs therapy probably from Sangie and Corax. Because these 2 are similar to Conrad.
I’ve always felt bad for Konrad. He can’t see the goodness in the universe or himself. He wants too…he so desperately wants too. When he hurt Dorn he cried, he was brought up on a planet of criminals and still tried to instill Justice.
It was dark and twisted Justice, but think, this was a planet of the worst of the worst kinds of people, he probably didn’t see another way except for these extremes.
He could also only see the bad parts of the future. Imagine, only being able to see the bad parts of your life without your own control over it.
The man never had a chance. He was so traumatized, so broken by his life that chaos never even tried to tempt him. His self hate was so internalized that not even the emperor or gods of chaos could change him.
THE MAN JUST NEEDED A HUG DAMMIT
Ohh no. Someone please tell me Davin has not rebelled and is still a loyal world.
It's still not too late. I believe Sanguinius. It's not to late to step away from the brink.
This has to be the best representation of optimism and pessimism of human nature.
Konrad never doubted the nature of the grim dark future and what comes with it.
Sanguinius looked and saw endless possibilities, he saw both the good and the bad of what the future may bring.
But he saw past the worst and caught a glimpse of hope.
Konrad Blinked at the Dark backward and ambysm of time.
Sanguinius stared it down and saw the light of hope.
Ah the conversation I asked for 😊 Thank you.
Also very creepy Konrad describing Sanguinius' death to him. But if Sanguinius didn't believe anything to be set in stone, why did he believe his own death couldn't be avoided? Maybe he is more like Konrad than he likes to admit.
I think it more has to do with Sanguinius knowing the future his death would help bring about was the best outcome therefore he was willing to face the consequence of his life ending for the future to be salvaged.
Honestly, you can make this an AU where everyone ends up not murdering each other, just bitching about nonsense
I feel like a good skit would be that regular people constantly mix up Corax with Curze because they look so similar and they start having a debate on who has to cut their hair first
Sanguinius for Emperor.
Wow, this is really, really, really good. Love it.
Curze mentioning Monarchia. Wow. I tip my hat to you mate.
The voice choices are stellar.
Damn, now i really want Konrad to play as a DM for his brothers tabletop game. something like lovecraft RPg were he constantly kills and torments the player characters
A DM doing that would be quickly without players, though.
@@Briselance also motivates some players to do everything they can to humiliate the dm at his game. Ever heard of the tale of Old Man Henderson?
Well, I am not sure that did not happened before Dorn was wounded... imagine you are trying to tell high atmospheric Call of Cthulhu game full of insanity and darkness. And SOMEONE created an overrational and skeptic engineer and played him... pretty well. But with results you really don't like because it throws game into disarray all times. 😅
Konrad would definitely be a good pick for VtM Storyteller
Conrad, corvus, sanginius, mortarion and magnus playing heart of darkness is what I want most
I love this. Both of them are right at the same time, but I have to side with Sanguineous. His part about how Konrad wants to be remembered is spot on, and something we should all consider in real life.
👏👏👏👏 Bravo. Haven't heard this exchange, wow - Kurze knew exactly how Sanguinius would die. This suggests Kurze's foresight was even keener that Sanguinius'....
Mannnn they should hire you for the 40k show god damnnn
Not only really good writing but the pacing and allusions were off the charts too. The "A Vengeful Spirit" line had me staring in impressed shock at your grasp of allusion and wordplay
Hey, yo!
Black Library and GW should hire this man.
...seriously, my dude. I was not prepared for how phenomenal this was.
Something about this makes me think of an aspect of the primarchs that I think some people forget, whether its for the "bad father emperor" memes or those who try to play down why Lorgar or Konrad would react the way they did with what they grew up with and what they experienced, right up to the burning of Monarchia and the destruction of Nostramo.
They're human, yes...but also far from human, almost to the point of being specialized hardwired supercomputers.
They're specifically programmed and designed with a purpose in mind, and that purpose drives them, and shapes how they respond to various factors. For Konrad, a being programmed to act as an agent of Justice like Konrad, getting dropped on a criminal cesspit like Nostramo was a worse-case scenario, since he had to build an idea of justice for this population from the ground up. For Lorgar, a being designed after loyalty and grandiloquent service to an idea once he'd imbibed it, there was little to be done after he'd either absorbed or constructed an ideal apart from the emperor's design, as was likely to happen on Colchis.
This is why I disagree with some who say other brothers would have acted the same way if they'd landed on different planets, and its also why I think its difficult to get too put out if some didn't react the way we would think is "reasonable." I have in mind someone thinking Lorgar was supposed to get the emperor's message about how its bad to make people kneel under the "Lorgar's Lament" video. They're not really programmed to think of this in the way a normal human might (and in Lorgar's case, he was assigned to make people kneel and forcibly accept a "truth," just not the one the Word Bearers were preaching). As such, I can see where they got frustrated, especially with the limited and sometimes contradictory information they had. In some ways, the Horus Heresy might be considered less a family tragedy, and more an apocalyptic version of Frankenstein in terms of making the primarchs as super powered not-quite-humans by a genius who may not have thought through just what he was creating, with a mix of runaway AI alle HAL from Space Odyssee.
That's...very thought provoking. Bravo
Conrad tried his best to be good but the Emperor made him in such a way that he never could. His name hints.
Not it's not about Emperor. Emperor didn't know what his tools will be risen in those planets. Plus Conrad is fookin unlucky landing on Nostramo and he is forced to be what he become a terrorist who doesn't understand that terror tactics starting to fail when the executioner is gone.
@@Warmaster2001 Really? Didn't he now? He can literally see the future. If Eldar knew, he surely would have too.
@@BIGESTblade yes he didn't know what will happen to his sons. Because he didn't care. Remember he is not their father but creator he only interested to get them back. Their purpose is to be generals no matter what. If he knows what will happen why he didn't help his sons them?. What kind of a father seeing the misery of his sons and don't trying to help them and save them?
@@Warmaster2001 I am fully aware of that. That is exactly why the Emperor made them the way they are. This is the reason why Lion can't read people for shit and why Lorgar is awful at everything that's not preaching.
Conrad is the way he is because he was made that way by the Emperor, it's not his fault. Yet despite that he tried his absolute best anyway despite knowing that he was setup to fail since before he was born. If Rogal didn't try to fist fight with him, he might have become the second Jaghatai.
@@BIGESTblade fair enough.
Someone give Bat Daddy a hug. Now.
*ugly crying in VIII*
That is so so good. I love the memes, but in the midst of not constantly reading lore you forget how complex the issues of Horus Heresy were. No wonder they needed 60 books. Anyways, I would love to, one day, go through the whole series again with this kind of voicing . Great work!
Ok-ok. NOW we see - there will be no sidestep from original timeline. Somehow beautiful... and heartbreaking.
The levity given from the wrestling, anime and music episodes really drive home these darker more lore acute ones.
Hope springs that new outcomes may take place but the horror it will come to pass as it is written, as visions of the future always fortell.
Excellent work and writing
Oh the horror. That was amazing!
Yes this is what we need to see! the angel of light and the angel of darkness
Konrad should have been born with bat wings, instead he was given ability to twist his limbs and bones into angels to be the best sewer goblin possible. No wonder he became god of raptors.
Sanguinius was too good for this cruel Galaxy...
Fantastic work on here, the contrast between Saguinius and Conrad in this video is the most on spot i have ever saw outside of official content.
That conversation is the single most chilling thing I've heard in recent recollection. Fantastic job on this one, was very refreshing to see something heavy and serious on your channel.
It makes wondrous contrast with your banging memes.
Dagoth ur as Vulkan? My N'wah this is sweettt
BRO THESS SLAPS MAN, please keep them coming
A new Vox video! And I couldn’t think today would get better! I always have a soft spot for both Konrad and Sanginius.
All discord memes aside, your writing is genuinely improving! Its fantastic!
Ave Dominus Nox
Jesus Christ, this was well written and well made.
Konrad is more tragic than Angron.
I’m guessing this was before Sanguinius launched Konrad into the vacuum of space.
Oh hey if you're doing serious shortly pre-heresy lore moments, would be fascinated to see your take on The Night of the Wolf
30k is superb fiction
For a moment; clarity made itself asserted over Konrad's mind. A clarity most terrible: for there was no more future to behold. The Second's presence dampened what his Nighthaunter brother saw: running a pristine edge against the Immaterial links which gave this curse.
And but for one fleeting moment - a Primarch's mind took over.
Bereft of the fog of mental mallady and whispers of what had to be; he could almost graze for an answer that could withstand his becoming madness, but it didn't last.
As it leaves, undected and prideless, they begin again: first a trickle, then a pour, then finally, a flood. Forgotten was the clarity as was the Silver One from existence and presence.
He had remnants to contest.
i didn't expect a nore serious video, but this was amazing and incredibly befitting of the characters
"Conrad. Your vision is barreled. Looking for one conclusion... One outcome... When you feel that wolf... Don't just feel it's anger.. it's pain... Feel why it's angry... Feel why it's in pain... And understand... That the wolf you are seeing is just your test you placed against yourself to make sure that you'd never turn against your brothers... Winter soilder. Who stalks the darkness between Stars... Yet does not see the star dust in it's wake... And realize how potent your lite is... So bright... That it's dark... Why I ask.. simple your just consumed by your own light... Breath. And realize.. your brother is the same... Just walks a different path with a different test he has placed before himself... And only a matter of time before y'all understand echother... Just... Take the time to talk."
~unknown
I can actually see Tom Hiddleston as Sanguinius, he'd be perfect for the role
These are getting good. Mind you, like Erebus and my previous comment about him, i personally thought Konrad would sound a bit more like Darth Maul, especially how well Sam Witwer pulls off the insane psychopath. 😅
its brilliant, thanks for the hard work! Keep it up!
Man i love this channel
This most haunting thing about this is that Konrad is right. What kind of future would have been if the emperor was left to complete his work? What would have happened to the primarchs and Astartes one his conquest was complete?
What happened to the thunder warriors?
Could the emperor ever have been satisfied? Or able to accept peace, and sharing of power and culture with his sons?
Would they have accepted their roles in an imperium that didn’t need them, or even didn’t want them?
It was always going to happen.
Konrad was right
Konrad knew. He always knew. And it broke his heart, his mind and his soul.
I think one of the last moments of "Konrad" before the Night Haunter took over, was him confiding in Fulgrim. A desperate attempt to warn someone, anyone.
@@randomcenturion7264and he was betrayed. By his friend-mentor who gave him lessons of how to be in this new World of Imperium and Imperial Truth, and he was betrayed by him. Dorn also betrayed him, he used this opportunity to strike upon Konrad with accusations of opposing the Imperium, that his visions are just flat lie and words meant to shatter father vision. Konrad was betrayed, and that is why he broke on Cheraut and while his mind was filled and busy with visions, in reallity he tore onto Dorn with nails and teeth.
@@ИльяЛунев-к6д What's even sadder is Fulgrim didn't mean to betray Konrad's trust. Fulgrim was incredibly insecure and doubted himself so he thought, "Who's the one person I know that's absolutely certain about Father's vision for Mankind?" So he asked Dorn to help. Sadly, he did not count on Dorn being as zealous as he is, thought to be fair when Dorn did find Konrad, he tried, but by this point, Konrad was already hurt by the breach of confidence and Night Haunter seized it.
Oh no, it's happening 😢
God! Thank you once again for making these
Amazing work!
A preview of more horror to come? That brothers will die and monsters replace them?
Or could this have happened because Dorn said Kane was overrated and Konrad is just being overdramatic?
This is so brilliantly done
new horus heresy anime dialogue confirmed
So good
Dorne got hurt? Oooooh, no... is this set after Konrad "little scene" with Dorne?
(I don't want to spoil it for people that don't read Horus Heresy.)
It is 😊
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Did Konrad already "exterminatused" Nostromo?
@@giacomoromano8842 I believe he committed such a crime days after this talk. Perhaps the "eternal legacy" ate at him, and the revolting of the Nostraman population definitely didn't help 😅
My two favorite primarch’s and I don’t mean any disrespect towards Fulgrim but I believe it would have been better for sanguinius to have been the teacher for Konrad
Hi
What book is this from
Imo Konrads voice is too comically vampiric and in the books he's described as having and eastern European accent
I wonder what kind of.
@@Warmaster2001 Judging by how Nostraman is supposed to be spoken, I would say Central European Slavic accent.
Black Vulkan🤔 not quite
Well he is not negroid but europeoid and his colour pigment is changed because if his homeworlds atmosphere and environment.
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Two sides of the same coin…
Love from a Vaush and BruvaAlfabusa Fan!
Any chance for one of Angron?
Ooh. Maybe the confrontation between Leman and Angron
When he practically roasting Guilliman in Nuceria?