4 Stroke Vs. 2 Stroke - Why I made The Switch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2019
- So here it is. I sold my 4 stroke honda CRF 450 and bought a 2 stroke KTM 250 EXC dirt bike. Here's why.
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As much as I like 2 strokes, rev limiter on a 4stroke🔥🔥🔥
When you rev out a 125 twostroke with a shorty 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@jakobnorrestam ohhhhhh true true good sound that
FK23 Swift that’s the only reason I have one lol
Jakob Norrestam used too fun a factory fatty and shorty on my 125 rm thing sounded so good I can still hear it when I think of it
LM Agri the rev limiter on a 4 stroke 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Short answer yes it’s worth it
No it's not
Suomi Finland shhhh
Depends
@@jackvlogsandgaming9533 No
2 stroke all the way but a 4 stroke is still good fun !
Yeah I'm a four stroke guy but the two strokes are fun so similar to you
Yeah it's worth it, I switched from a crf250 to a cr250 and it's the best thing I did
2strokes have a faster take off and a stronger powerband so it depends what type of rider you are or want to be
I've always ridden 2 strokes and was thinking about getting a CRF 450L, but now you've got me wanting to stick with the 2 strokes, I wish Honda would make a road register-able CR 250, 2 stroke. Well at least here in Australia we don't have them.
Off topic, I hear Australia has gone nuts with Covid lockdowns. Are they?
Rode 2 strokes for ever, good fun, still have a cr250r in the garage. Didn’t want anything to do with the 4’s for a long time and then they just got better. Now I’m racing harescrambles on a prepped 450rx and it is on a another level, it loves all the orange obstacles... I race standard map in the mud and race map in the woods and sunny days, jumpy like a 2 stroke in race mod but with better traction to the ground and longer, harder pull and some may not realize, it revs higher as well. Think about what this 450 is doing while Out reving the 2strokes, just let that soak for a minute. But if you can’t handle big red, you will surely get whipped and be slow. If you have the strength, talent and balls, this bike will send it! Honestly this bike unleashed me and the 2 stokes left me wanting a bit on top. Don’t get me wrong still have a soft spot for my smoker, quick blip and she launches you off a jump face, like I said fun but the 450rx means business on race day. Rider has to fit the bike, no doubt...
I love a 450, always have. I had the crf450r but always wanted to try the rx. No one realise how much traction and torque these things have
I got a new 4 stroke MX bike and now I’m looking for a nice Kx250 two stroke💚🤙
I love both engines 🤘
Kx250's are the way to go they are beast bikes. Get the jetting right on it and you wont ever look back.
cheddar shredder I hope so buddy 👍
Enjoy the bike life and stay safe
Sweet video👌 Glad you like the ktm😄
Yeah she’s an beauty to be fair. Love it
Two strokes are way funner to ride, I brought my yz250 few months back and I love the 2 stroke so much more fun
Brayden Gray MX Those are great bikes!
@@grahamvandermark1348 alot cheaper to rebuild to
I'm surprised how good it went on the slow burbling along stuff! Would you say it's better than a 250 4 Stroke for the slow stuff?
Riders preference really. It doesn’t stall all the time like a 4 stroke so I guess it’s better in the slow stuff. 4 stroke is probably better in the fast stuff
It’s all preference and what riding u wanna do
I haven’t used mouses myself but I did see somewhere that you can drill holes into the mouses to make them feel softer ( but not sure so ask someone who does knows first ) Wales has gone wet for a month or two now mate , good vid as usual 👍
use a 25mm spade bit and drill every 60-80mm apart depends how soft you want, through the side obviously not down wards.
The tyres were so hard to get on I’m not sure if I want to take them off again haha
MidWest MX did you use lots of lube
Is this where u rode the small pitbike that u did in the give away
Yeah. Mad you remember that one. You’ve got a good memory 😀
YES
With out even watching the video yet. I can tell you 100% it is
Drill holes in your mousse, it will make it softer. Don't go over board though because then it might degrade too fast. Also, just wondering if you have heard of gummy tires which would help alot with hard enduro riding.
Yeah I’ve heard of them. They don’t seem to last long though and changing tyres with mousse is really annoying 😂
@@MidWestMX another channel, Slavens Racing, has gotten over 200miles on some gummy tires.
Let’s have the best of both Worlds Yamaha Banshee!!!!!!!!!!!
I got a four stroke and I want to learn more about it
501 fe for me!
What about if you wanted to go hit the MX track, is that bike capable? or do they make a good combination track/enduro bike?
Mtb730 you can get a sx250 from ktm which is a motorcross two stroke, which I’ve heard with a over sized radiator and fan will be a trail beast as well. Personally once I hoped on a trail made two stroke I lost all interest in track.... jumpes on a trail through woods is allot more fun to me !
Funny you say that. Next video I take it to the track for a test run.
Went from a yz450fx to a 300rr easier to ride the 2stroke
Would love a 2 smoker myself 🤤👌🏻
MidWest MX I will eventually I’d say 👍🏻
Everyone always told me that I should get 4 stroke, so 5 years ago I did. Now I have both of them. It’s hard to say witch one is better. Raw power vs Smooth power. I feel like it depends how u ride, type of riding u do and conditions. Wet conditions I would probably stay on 4 stroke. Also when I am on 4 stroke i can be lazy, bike is more forgiving, hill climbing with deep send a lot easier. Only problem is weight. 2 stroke I have to ride more aggressive, watch out for that power bent. When we ride fast on trials, feels like bike want to kill me. But it’s fun bike to ride, climbing up dry rivers it’s easier. I been wanted to sell both bike, and just get one. But I don’t know witch way to go. 2 or 4.
Yeah it’s a hard decision. 4t is an easier bike fore sure but I’m always so happy riding the 2t
As much as i like 2 strokes, I just couldn’t get rid of the throttle response
Came here from MOTO MACHINEZ UK saw ur comment 👍
Got a sub
Love moto machines. Thanks for stopping by buddy
@@MidWestMX yh no worries bro
can you not adjust a hydrolic clutch like a cable clutch? There's no way you should need clutch plates in under 100 hours at the pace you ride.
Yeah i'm working on it. I think i've found the problem
@@MidWestMX ,
And a worn clutch would give you the opposite effect by slipping with the lever out.
@@MidWestMX I'm sure you already know it, but some fresh oil makes a huge difference when clutching and shifting
That’s the problem haha
My opinion i have road both 4 strokes and 2 strokes many kinds the Enduro and motocross versions and honestly I don’t see what people go on about hey there both the same to me I don’t see the big difference at all haha both bikes that move. Awesome vid bro ✊️👌
Yeah I agree. Each to their own. There’s no better bike, they’re both good for different things. The king of enduro riding I do which is the slow technical stuff, I will say I find the 2 stroke a lot better for the bottom end torque
MidWest MX have you road a 4 stroke Enduro ? I find my 350 is perfect for technical riding depends how fit and strong you are to but I have ridden both bikes in technical riding and the 2 stroke is lighter yes but depends how strong the 4 stroke rider is might feel like a 2 stroke to him 🤷♂️
That’s the big difference. Yeah I had a go on a Ktm 350 enduro beginning of the year. Loved it. But you can feel the weight difference when you ride it. The 2 stroke is like riding a mountain bike. Obviously it’s riders preference. I myself prefer the 2 stroke now I have one
MidWest MX yeah so pretty much just the rider it’s silly when people think it’s all about the bike
Yeah there’s no 2 stroke or 4 stroke argument. Completely different bikes and each to their own I say
I really wanna come ride around strata Florida but I need a smaller bike that’s above 100 cc and preferably 2-Stroke could you recommend one
Ktm 125cc. You can’t go wrong
MidWest MX yeah thinking about that but needs to be 2010 or younger. At the minute I’m on a 200exc and it’s wayyyy to big for me. I’m only a teen and getting into it. Love the videos keep it up man
@@josephcorner6401 2006 or newer yz250. Best bike for the money. Or if you want a smaller cheaper route get a steel frame yz125. 2000-04 are good.
adjust your sag as much as possible without making the suspension a bouncy bucking bronco. Otherwise make sure you stop close to a tree to lean the bike on. i got my first 250 when i was 12 lol if you think i had more than my big toe on one side touching the ground you're dreaming.
Dude, are you comparing a 2t enduro bike to a 450 4t MX bike?! When I rode the KTM range at an Ady Smith day the 250 & 300 2t bikes were snappier than the 4t bikes for sure. Not saying they are bad... obviously they’re awesome, but a KTM 350 or Sherco 300 4t are epic enduro bikes too. Ultimately you can’t go wrong these days, just pick the right tool for the riding you do... which you have it seems.
BTW, mousses take a few hours to bed in from what my buddies tell me (I’m running tubliss) so hopefully yours play ball soon...
In all honesty you can’t compare a 4t to a 2t. Completely different bikes. I’m just surprised at how well I’ve adapted to the 2t. I’ve tried a few 4t enduro bikes and I actually feel more comfortable on the 2t weirdly enough.
MidWest MX I agree, I honestly don’t understand the need to have a favourite but people love to be tribal! I think if I spent a bit more time on the 2t bikes I’d love them too, especially for the sort of riding you do. I ride a lot of faster more open Hare & Hounds races (albeit at a novice level!) so the 4t bikes are pretty well suited.
I’m off to try out the 250 & 300 2&4t Sherco range next week... that should be fun!
Yeah the faster hate and hounds a 4t is better. Probably even an MX bike. See a lot of people using MX bikes for woods races. They hold up well. I do a lot of varied riding. Tough woods sections and slow stuff so the bottom end of the 2t is way better I find and less overheating
MidWest MX Yeah loads of guys use MX bikes, depends how technical it gets and how good the rider is but it’s all good fun. 100% agree about the slow speed/technical stuff - 2t all the way.
The Ktm350exc is appealing though.
I do agree. I’ve tried one and it was awesome
@@MidWestMX what tyre do you run on the rear?
Hey I just got my first dirt bike it's a xr 400 I have not riden in 10 years but I seem to be doing good on it
reminton 243 as long as it’s fun that’s all that counts! ✌️
reminton 243 it’s the same for me mate only just got back into bikes used too race 10 years ago but got a 300 tpi this year 2019 love the thing
How old r u?
I am 16 so I was 6 last time I rode a bike
reminton 243 I’m 29
Yamaha yz 125 or this
Both completely different bikes. Try it and see
static............. guess you said 2 stroke better for mud. ?
Like 4 strok
I wanna get a 2 stroke one day tho
reminton 243 they’re so much fun
Ya one day I am only 16 rn soo I gotta start saving my money
By the way I love the videos from the second I seen your first video i wanted to get a dirt bike
Glad they inspired you man
@@MidWestMX what is so different between the 2 it's the power delivery
No matter what the tires are going to be spiny because yr on a 2 stroke
I personally prefer having a 4stroke cus I like having that instant torque but I would recommend 2 stroke if people asked me cus one thing I always notice with newer riders is that with 4 stroke u got that engine brake n the newer riders sometimes tend to panic idk y but yeah and 2 strokes are easier to clear out if they are flooded and much easier to work on
Edit: who thinks most of quad rider are annoying?(I said most not all)
No it’s not I beg you to keep the for stroke 👍👍
Each bike has their own benefits. It's whichever one you like better.
MidWest MX nah nah would u prefer the smell of 2 stroke or the rev limiter of a 4 stroke, that’s the question u have to anwser 👍
Coming from a crf450r to a ktm 300exc and thinking a 2stroke is a way better enduro bike is pretty dumb. A proper enduro 4stroke is not that much worse and only in weight not ability. And eberyone tgat say flame outs on 4 strokes are much worse just turn up your bloddy idle. No it is not a stop gap solution, an enduro bike is a tool and if it works it works, not about anything else...
TPI
You know it
4 stroke has more torque and top end
I'm sure you have heard this before but for a new rider doing all trail riding no MX stuff do you recommend a 2 stroke or 4? Thanks
James George if ur starting off u should go 4 stroke cuz the power band can be a bit confronting for your first bike
there are two types of people in this world, happy 2 stroke riders living the dream and the others that are missing their testicles.
😂😂 well this cheered up my morning haha
Fresh mousses are fucking horrible, feels like your suspension has gone solid 😂
Yup! It’s horrible. Hope they break in soon
@@MidWestMX Give them about 10 hours, they start feel more tolerable. My Michelin's still strong 2 and half years later 👌
Yeah my buddy has Michelin’s. he took them out of his tyres after 2 years and they looked brand new
@@MidWestMX plenty of lube- only use Michelin bib mousse lube or the pirrelli stuff and they will last ages 👌
Sorry but 2 strokes too damn delicate, i need to mix gas and i dont wanna blow up my engine so often but if they didn’t need that fuck 4 stroke im getting a 125
Geez why are you out of breathe though?
Unfit 🤣
No !