Congratulations! That’s awesome. Please post here what you think of it when you get it. It’s really an amazing ebike and I think it will change the industry as competitors will need to do their best to catch up to what it has. Safe riding!
Did you report the "front fork wobble" on the Lectric XPremium? Most reviewers did not. As a result, us consumers were quite surprised when we bought this bike. I would not have bought my XPremium if I had know this. We depend on your reviewers to give us a true report.
Yes, in my review on the XPremium, I did mention early in the video that there was a front fork wobble being noted by a lot of reviews on comments and when I put a RockBros bag on the rack, I too felt it. I've had the wobble issue on some other similar style bikes and explained that the only time I got the wobble was when weight was on the back with a higher center of gravity.
It's too expensive for me. My XP 2.0 still rides perfectly. I bet I have sold way over a hundred bikes for them just by people asking what it is at places like the grocery store. I even made some cards with the phone number & my name but nobody ever remembers to say who told them to call. I don't mind. I just bought the Meroca handlebar system. Gonna install it today.
Oh, good question. Unfortunately I don't know how close it was. It didn't seem low to me when I was riding, but the bike is about as low as all their other models.
I'm really interested in pre-ordering this but just want to know what your thoughts were on handling/stability? I noticed there's no suspension which isn't a huge deal if it cuts down on weight. However, do you feel this bike can ride safely on a gravel path past 20mph?
The tires are only 2.5” wide, so as long as the gravel isn’t too slippery and there’s more packed dirt than small loose rocks, I would not hesitate to ride at 20mph on it. However I do believe this ebike was intended for mostly paved path commuting. Without a chain, the belt drive system makes it feel even more solid than ever but it’s the tires that should be changed before a lot of off-road riding since the stock tires are smooth road tires. I do believe Lectric will offer a front suspension option after the initial launch, but you need to verify with Lectric on that.
SEMI automatic trans. It doesn't auto downshift unless you stop pedaling. It's also a purpose built bike for city cruising. Which is confusing since it doesn't fold. City dwellers are often cycling to work and live in an apartment or condo. With the name One I was expecting a combination of popular features from several of their models. That wasn't the case at all. About the only feature it does share is the folding handlebars. I'm sure it will be a good bike but if it's anything like the last 2 (XP 3,0 and XPeak) there will be some wrinkles that need ironed out. Note: they still haven't offered a real fix for he XPeak yet.
I was on a metro rail in Tempe Arizona while at the Lectric event when someone came on the metro with an XP 2.0 and folded it and sat down. The Metro driver made a few announcements saying that ebikes were not allowed on the train trying to get him to get off. I didn't realize some places don't allow them. The guy just ignored him, lol. He wasn't blocking anyone and other non-electric bikes were getting on and off and those took more room as they weren't foldable.
It does shift by itself. You dont have to stop peddling for it to shift. If you don't like the gear it selects for you, you can just select the one you do want.
Thank you for the reply. Between the Lectric One and other new models like the Aventon Ramblas, there are some really innovative ebikes coming out this year in terms of features and value.@@EbikeProducts
I’d love to see an XP 4.0 with the 750w motor and a torque sensor from the XPress. Pinion and gates are nice luxuries, but more power and a torque sensor at $1200 would be great.
I agree. It's small and very low. I recommend riders use a helmet (like the Xnito one I use) as it has a built in light and flashes or blink etc and will make you a lot more visible.
I could give a hoot. I'm a straight throttle jockey. I know 0f the 4,500 miles on my Rad City4 only one mile was with me peddling. That makes an auto-shift transmission just one more thing to fix.
Totally makes sense. I too throttle a lot more than pedal. Love the term ‘Throttle Jockey’! You’re right that gear shifting wouldn’t be worth it for you, and maybe me too, but the power of this ebike is insane and that would be worth it along with dead quick starts at a dead stop if I decided to help it. I honestly often put most of my bikes in high gear and leave it there, but this is a bike I may actually utilize the gears for more efficiency.
Actually there is way less to fix with a belt and internal transmission for the gears. With the manual, you have sprockets, cassettes, and a derailer that breaks down. And it's even worse wear for lazy people that leave it in high gear and never shift
t doesn’t explain well how the gear changes are made since it doesn’t have a chain but a carbon belt. The belt doesn’t flex like a chain, so the changes must be made with gears to the chainring or plate , right? explain im lost thanks, maybe if you can view de mechanism without the cover
The gears are in the crank box. It works a lot like a car transmission. They have a great page on their website that has a video too explaining the gear system here: pinion.eu/en/technology/ Sorry, I’m not the best person to explain the gearing in depth, but this website page really helps. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think there is an indicator of what gear you might be in on the app while your synced, but I’m not totally sure about that. I was really trying to play around as much as possible with the feel of the bike and was concerned I would mess up a setting that would take time away from riding so I was a little too conservative on testing. I’ll be watching all the other videos the others made to see what they learned about it.
Unfortunately, that is not possible. Throttle will only go up to 20mph. To go past the 20mph, you will need to pedal to get it up to 28mph. Lectric really makes sure they stay within the true legal classes with their bikes.
I am sorry, but I honestly do not know the answer to that question. I think it will, but I'm not sure as I have never had to put a bike in the bus' bike rack.
The oil or fluid inside the pinion gearbox will need to be drained and changed with new oil every year of use. Not a deal breaker but definitely more work and cost for the owner.
Neither to be honest. For a casual weekend rider, I'd look at something with 26" tires. These two are blue collar working bikes for getting from point A to point B.
I think it did say what gear I was in but I must add a disclaimer that I not totally sure. Our test time was so short I didn’t get a chance to really study the display thoroughly.
My apologies, that was not my intention. It is the first pinion being used in mass market affordable ebikes in the US, but you are right. Levi did mention there were about 100 ebikes with the pinion system that were insanely expensive. Sorry about the mis-information.
LOL! I totally get it, but this sensor is like nothing I’ve ever experienced. It has almost 100 magnets that makes it super sensitive equal to a torque sensor. I could be wrong, but I believe the auto shifting drive train works best with this setup. I’ve been liking the PWR system a lot better than a torque sensor as you don’t need to sweat as much to go faster and can still help the bike if you want more exercise any time you want. In my opinion, it’s the best of both worlds now and only getting better. Nonetheless, I totally get why some may prefer a traditional torque sensor, but this Lectric One could change a lot of minds as it gets more popular in the market.
Me too, but Lectric will help drive down the price of this tech, so it eventually becomes available to more people. I foresee Lectric eventually offering this on its XP series.
@@srobeck77 I already own a Lectric eBike have for 2 years now. I can not ride a normal bike any more, I am disabled. This eBike shown does NOT fold like the xp series and XP lite series eBikes, and why I would not buy one. I have compact car and need a folding eBike. Can buy 2 XP series bikes to one of these also. Meaning more people in the family can ride over just one.
@@srobeck77 But this eBike does not fold in half, so I never buy it. Even if they sell it for the same price as the XP. To say I have to buy this eBike or It's not a eBike is BS!
Everyone I know who rides an electric bike want the same 3 things. Range, speed, and lower price. Some ebike makers are getting the hint. Some are not. Less tech with more range and speed please.
@@srobeck77 eBikes have been a thing long enough that we should be able to travel at least a couple hundred miles between charges. Top speed for my personal preference is around 35 mph. But, all of my friends want more. The tech is cool. And we have to keep innovating. My point is that eBikes are going the route of EVs with the tech, low range, poor cold weather performance, and less desirability. Give us less tech and ridiculous range please. I'd be okay going slow as long as I can do it for days.
@@stoneyrunva In most states anything that goes over 28 is no longer considered an ebike and requires a license and insurance. 28 and under and you are a pedestrian in most states. If you get into an accident going over 28, you are screwed legally. A few hundred miles would require massive batteries that could not fit on an ebike. Not even bikes that cost $10,000 can do that. The technology is just not there.
Absolutely nobody…and I mean nobody, is going to ride an e-bike on PS1 for longer than 2 minutes. And 14ah is as small as it gets these days. Now a good point for you to make is that you can apparently upgrade to a 19ah battery
@@justinwhite2951 how do you know, did u try it out? Thats what the website says. All cars and ebikes are going to test in perfect conditions, so theres no difference in that. So maybe instead of 60 miles, you get 50-55 miles.
1. There are many ebikes on Amazon that cost between $500 and $800, and you can buy good ebikes from reputable companies for between $800 and $1500. The most popular ebike sold in the US is probably the Lectric XP which costs $999. The price of the average new light vehicle in the US was $47,338 in early 2024, so it is idiotic to argue that ebikes are too expensive when compared to cars. 2a. Lithium mining is polluting, but much less polluting than extracting, refining and burning petroleum. 18% of the world's premature deaths are caused by fossil fuel emissions. If you look at lithium mines in places like Greenbushes, Australia and Atacama, Chile, there is nothing like the tar sands of Alberta, Canada, the half century of oil spills in Ogoniland, Nigeria, or even the fracking happening in the US. Only an idiot would argue that we shouldn't use ebikes for environmental reasons. An ebike emits roughly 18 grams of CO2 per passenger-km, compared to 8 g. for a normal bike, 99 g. for an electric car, 149 g. for a hybrid car, and 210 g. for a gasoline car (see: TNMT, 2021, The environmental impact of today’s transport types). Using ebikes instead of cars for transportation eliminates a huge amount of pollution. 2b. Lithium is not mined by children. In 2022, global lithium production was produced by Australia (51.2%), Chile (26.0%), China (15.5%), Argentina (4.5%) and other (2.8%). None of lithium mining is done in a way where child labor is likely. Pumping lithium rich water out of salt flats (Chile, Argentina, Tibet and Nevada) and hard rock mining of spodumene (Australia) and lepidolite (Yichun) is not the kind of mining where child labor is likely, and there are no news reports of it happening. It is true that roughly 25,000 children are involved in mining cobalt in the Congo, and the most common battery chemistry in ebikes is NMC, but most of the cobalt is being eliminated as the industry increasing switches to formulas with less cobalt (NMC111 -> NMC532 -> NMC622 -> NMC811). Most lithium batteries in the future will switch to LMFP and other types of LFP derivatives which have no cobalt, and the move to sodium ion batteries in long term will eliminate all the metals but iron and aluminum, which are very abundant and easily mined. 3. Ebikes with 750 watt motors (like this one being reviewed) can usually handle steep grades with throttle only. The Lectric XP with a 500W motor (1000W peak) is a good hill climber. Yes, there are a lot of ebikes sold in Europe with just 250 watt motors which can't handle hills, because European regulations don't allow more powerful motors, but most ebikes sold in the US have 500W or larger motors and they should be able to handle most hills. 4. The average American driver drives 30.1 miles per day. Most Americans don't need an ebike that goes 10 times farther than they drive on an average day. 5. 100 km per hour is an extremely dangerous speed on an ebike. Most US states limit throttles on ebikes to 20 miles per hour and pedal assistance to 28 miles per hour. In most of Europe, throttles aren't allowed and pedal assistance is limited to 25 km per hour, so you are insane to demand that ebikes go 4 times faster. You must have a death wish. 6. If we suffer an apocalypse, it is far more likely that you will be able to get electricity from local wind turbines and solar panels to charge an ebike than you will be able to get gasoline to run an ICE vehicle. With an ebike, you can always pedal it if it runs out of a charge, but with a two ton car, you won't be able to move it without oil refineries and a gasoline/diesel distribution network. 7. Considering that you can recharge ebikes at home, at work or anywhere that has a standard electrical socket, why do you need to recharge in 5 minutes? Unlike cars, you don't need to take ebikes to special fueling stations to recharge, so there is less need to be able to recharge quickly.
Mmmm... I am thinking that we could be as close to10 years for your dream e-bike once Glass batteries become mainstream (except for the 100kph as that would be a motorcycle).
1. Nobody cares what you paid for you first car with 150k miles+ back in 1984 2. Everything is bad for the environment and there's no such thing as a battery thats not Lithium (despite what your dreams tell you) 3. Again, no such thing as 300 miles on a single charge, with optional gas power, or 5 min charging. This is a very child-like rant, not reality based that will never happen. 4. Start living your life in reality. Not sci-fi. No you cannot go live on Mars in the near future either just because you think its an eco-friendly good idea. (Thought I cover this before you mention it this next).
Lectric didn’t do shit , the Chinese did it . ALL e-bikes are designed in china! I would buy a goat bike that goes 45 mph before buying this for the same price
You’re right that most ebikes sold in the US are made (or at least assembled) in China, but I’m pretty sure the Lectric One was actually designed from the ground up at Lectric Headquarters. The Pinion gearing system is German made and I heard someone say it might actually be manufactured in Germany. Final assembly of the Lectric One is likely in China or Vietnam. All that being said, as much as the Chinese are typically involved in some part of making e-bikes, many designs start outside of China. The European ebike companies often design all their own e-bikes and non electric bikes.
Incorrect. Most are assembled in China but not designed there, just like iphones. But there are some cheap, but ok Chinese knockoff ebike brands where they copied the designs of popular ebikes brands. Thats about all they can do is provide cheap labor and copy others designs.
Nice bike! I would add a Suntour suspension seat post, Cloud 9 seat, and replace the front fork with a suspension fork, if possible.
Agreed. With those changes, this would be a great bike.
I like how customizable the ride is through the app. I think I would want to add a suspension for and seat post for the added comfort
Yup. Totally agree. Especially if you take long rides, those items will definitely make it more enjoyable.
I just ordered this bike. I’d love to see them make scooters. Their products are really amazing and affordable.
Congratulations! That’s awesome. Please post here what you think of it when you get it. It’s really an amazing ebike and I think it will change the industry as competitors will need to do their best to catch up to what it has. Safe riding!
Did you report the "front fork wobble" on the Lectric XPremium?
Most reviewers did not. As a result, us consumers were quite surprised when we bought this bike.
I would not have bought my XPremium if I had know this.
We depend on your reviewers to give us a true report.
Yes, in my review on the XPremium, I did mention early in the video that there was a front fork wobble being noted by a lot of reviews on comments and when I put a RockBros bag on the rack, I too felt it. I've had the wobble issue on some other similar style bikes and explained that the only time I got the wobble was when weight was on the back with a higher center of gravity.
Really am not into smaller bikes like this but its cool. I am sure we will see this transmission in other bikes.
It will be awesome when they put it on ebikes with 26" road tires. That would be a great commuter and delivery ebike for those who like riding higher.
It's too expensive for me. My XP 2.0 still rides perfectly. I bet I have sold way over a hundred bikes for them just by people asking what it is at places like the grocery store. I even made some cards with the phone number & my name but nobody ever remembers to say who told them to call. I don't mind. I just bought the Meroca handlebar system. Gonna install it today.
I can't wait till they get their new Bikes in stock xp 2.0 lite jw I ordered June 5th.
How close to striking the ground do the pedals go? The bottom bracket looks low to my eyes.
Low ground clearance for sure. In some of the pics, they are almost pedal striking
Oh, good question. Unfortunately I don't know how close it was. It didn't seem low to me when I was riding, but the bike is about as low as all their other models.
I'm really interested in pre-ordering this but just want to know what your thoughts were on handling/stability? I noticed there's no suspension which isn't a huge deal if it cuts down on weight. However, do you feel this bike can ride safely on a gravel path past 20mph?
The tires are only 2.5” wide, so as long as the gravel isn’t too slippery and there’s more packed dirt than small loose rocks, I would not hesitate to ride at 20mph on it. However I do believe this ebike was intended for mostly paved path commuting. Without a chain, the belt drive system makes it feel even more solid than ever but it’s the tires that should be changed before a lot of off-road riding since the stock tires are smooth road tires. I do believe Lectric will offer a front suspension option after the initial launch, but you need to verify with Lectric on that.
I ride gravel at high speeds on 2" tires all the time. That's with 29" wheels though, I don't know how 20" wheels would do.
Just get a suspension seat post and thats all youd ever need for paved roads.
SEMI automatic trans. It doesn't auto downshift unless you stop pedaling. It's also a purpose built bike for city cruising. Which is confusing since it doesn't fold. City dwellers are often cycling to work and live in an apartment or condo. With the name One I was expecting a combination of popular features from several of their models. That wasn't the case at all. About the only feature it does share is the folding handlebars. I'm sure it will be a good bike but if it's anything like the last 2 (XP 3,0 and XPeak) there will be some wrinkles that need ironed out. Note: they still haven't offered a real fix for he XPeak yet.
Folding is really only for commuters who have to jump on a bus or a train with the bike.
I was on a metro rail in Tempe Arizona while at the Lectric event when someone came on the metro with an XP 2.0 and folded it and sat down. The Metro driver made a few announcements saying that ebikes were not allowed on the train trying to get him to get off. I didn't realize some places don't allow them. The guy just ignored him, lol. He wasn't blocking anyone and other non-electric bikes were getting on and off and those took more room as they weren't foldable.
It does shift by itself. You dont have to stop peddling for it to shift. If you don't like the gear it selects for you, you can just select the one you do want.
Technology is moving fast in this world
On first glance, the frame looks similar to many other folding ebikes with 20 inch wheels. But I don't think that it folds.
You’re right, it’s not a folding frame. Probably due to the pinion gearbox needing to be in the middle of the bike. The design is beautiful up close.
Thank you for the reply. Between the Lectric One and other new models like the Aventon Ramblas, there are some really innovative ebikes coming out this year in terms of features and value.@@EbikeProducts
I’d love to see an XP 4.0 with the 750w motor and a torque sensor from the XPress. Pinion and gates are nice luxuries, but more power and a torque sensor at $1200 would be great.
Ooooo, I agree...that would be amazing!
the rear light is very hard to see on the road.
I agree. It's small and very low. I recommend riders use a helmet (like the Xnito one I use) as it has a built in light and flashes or blink etc and will make you a lot more visible.
I could give a hoot. I'm a straight throttle jockey. I know 0f the 4,500 miles on my Rad City4 only one mile was with me peddling. That makes an auto-shift transmission just one more thing to fix.
Totally makes sense. I too throttle a lot more than pedal. Love the term ‘Throttle
Jockey’! You’re right that gear shifting wouldn’t be worth it for you, and maybe me too, but the power of this ebike is insane and that would be worth it along with dead quick starts at a dead stop if I decided to help it. I honestly often put most of my bikes in high gear and leave it there, but this is a bike I may actually utilize the gears for more efficiency.
Actually there is way less to fix with a belt and internal transmission for the gears. With the manual, you have sprockets, cassettes, and a derailer that breaks down. And it's even worse wear for lazy people that leave it in high gear and never shift
Not into male masturbation devices in cars or bikes.
Sounds like you might be more of a scooter person if you’re not into effort. I ride both and like to pedal and be lazy sometimes.
t doesn’t explain well how the gear changes are made since it doesn’t have a chain but a carbon belt. The belt doesn’t flex like a chain, so the changes must be made with gears to the chainring or plate , right? explain im lost thanks, maybe if you can view de mechanism without the cover
The gears are in the crank box. It works a lot like a car transmission.
They have a great page on their website that has a video too explaining the gear system here: pinion.eu/en/technology/
Sorry, I’m not the best person to explain the gearing in depth, but this website page really helps.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@EbikeProducts thanks for the info, i underestand how it works, a lot of parts made a lot of problems
Do you miss knowing what gear you are in? I don’t see a gear indicator in the app or display.
I think there is an indicator of what gear you might be in on the app while your synced, but I’m not totally sure about that. I was really trying to play around as much as possible with the feel of the bike and was concerned I would mess up a setting that would take time away from riding so I was a little too conservative on testing.
I’ll be watching all the other videos the others made to see what they learned about it.
Who cares its just make believe number. Better to go by feel
Is it possible to ride it as throttle only to the max unlock speed of 28 mph?
Unfortunately, that is not possible. Throttle will only go up to 20mph. To go past the 20mph, you will need to pedal to get it up to 28mph. Lectric really makes sure they stay within the true legal classes with their bikes.
Throttles are limited to 20mph like on my Pace 500.2. To unlock the 28mph speeds, you have to be peddling and in pedal assist mode.
can the tires fit in the tray of a public bus bicycle rack?
I am sorry, but I honestly do not know the answer to that question. I think it will, but I'm not sure as I have never had to put a bike in the bus' bike rack.
The oil or fluid inside the pinion gearbox will need to be drained and changed with new oil every year of use. Not a deal breaker but definitely more work and cost for the owner.
Which would be better specialized globe haul ST or the Letric one to use in town and take it for a weekend bike ride?
Neither to be honest. For a casual weekend rider, I'd look at something with 26" tires. These two are blue collar working bikes for getting from point A to point B.
Nice bike . What app on your phone is the speedometer
The app I use is called Speedmeter on an iphone
I like shifting for myself. I just like being in control of the gear I want to use. Does it have a display to tell you what gear you are in?
I think it did say what gear I was in but I must add a disclaimer that I not totally sure. Our test time was so short I didn’t get a chance to really study the display thoroughly.
Nope. Cant stand manual stick shifts in cars and would prefer to not do it on bikes either.
The reviewer gives the impression that Lectric is the first to use the pinion system. That is not correct.
My apologies, that was not my intention. It is the first pinion being used in mass market affordable ebikes in the US, but you are right. Levi did mention there were about 100 ebikes with the pinion system that were insanely expensive. Sorry about the mis-information.
Nice bike, but it needs a bigger battery and a torque sensor. I'd also prefer BMX bars.
theres an option to pay more for a bigger battery. id kinda feel like 13 year old version myself on a small bike with bmx handle bars
You lost my interest at "cadence sensor".
LOL! I totally get it, but this sensor is like nothing I’ve ever experienced. It has almost 100 magnets that makes it super sensitive equal to a torque sensor. I could be wrong, but I believe the auto shifting drive train works best with this setup. I’ve been liking the PWR system a lot better than a torque sensor as you don’t need to sweat as much to go faster and can still help the bike if you want more exercise any time you want. In my opinion, it’s the best of both worlds now and only getting better. Nonetheless, I totally get why some may prefer a traditional torque sensor, but this Lectric One could change a lot of minds as it gets more popular in the market.
must be delayed
Jesus is coming soon time is short
Rubbish. He doesn't exsist.
Buy an ebike now before he arrive 😂😂😂
I do not want one. It is way to expensive for me and my needs. Plus it does not fold which is a major need of mine.
Me too, but Lectric will help drive down the price of this tech, so it eventually becomes available to more people. I foresee Lectric eventually offering this on its XP series.
Wayyyy cheaper than the competition. You prolly want a Walmart ebike or just a regular pedal bike
@@srobeck77 I already own a Lectric eBike have for 2 years now. I can not ride a normal bike any more, I am disabled. This eBike shown does NOT fold like the xp series and XP lite series eBikes, and why I would not buy one. I have compact car and need a folding eBike. Can buy 2 XP series bikes to one of these also. Meaning more people in the family can ride over just one.
@@DarkroomZombie similarly, you could buy 2 mopeds for the price of one motorcycle, but i dont want a moped
@@srobeck77 But this eBike does not fold in half, so I never buy it. Even if they sell it for the same price as the XP. To say I have to buy this eBike or It's not a eBike is BS!
Everyone I know who rides an electric bike want the same 3 things. Range, speed, and lower price. Some ebike makers are getting the hint. Some are not. Less tech with more range and speed please.
It's 28mph and 60 miles range (or 40 miles with the standard battery). How much more speed and range were you looking for?
@@srobeck77 eBikes have been a thing long enough that we should be able to travel at least a couple hundred miles between charges. Top speed for my personal preference is around 35 mph. But, all of my friends want more. The tech is cool. And we have to keep innovating. My point is that eBikes are going the route of EVs with the tech, low range, poor cold weather performance, and less desirability. Give us less tech and ridiculous range please. I'd be okay going slow as long as I can do it for days.
@@stoneyrunva what dream are you basing this "couple hundred mile" upon? Cause your full of sh!t since no ebike offers that.
@@stoneyrunva In most states anything that goes over 28 is no longer considered an ebike and requires a license and insurance. 28 and under and you are a pedestrian in most states. If you get into an accident going over 28, you are screwed legally.
A few hundred miles would require massive batteries that could not fit on an ebike. Not even bikes that cost $10,000 can do that. The technology is just not there.
This bike runs on the equivalent of two 9 volt duracells. It's a 14ah battery. It's going to die going around the block.
60 mile range with the 14 Ah battery on PAS 1 is more range than most people need. You must be trolling.
Absolutely nobody…and I mean nobody, is going to ride an e-bike on PS1 for longer than 2 minutes. And 14ah is as small as it gets these days. Now a good point for you to make is that you can apparently upgrade to a 19ah battery
Your blocks are 60 miles long?!?! Holy balls!!!!! Someone was drunk when they measured the blocks in your neighborhood.
@@srobeck77 nobody is getting 60 miles on this bike unless they arent using the battery at all
@@justinwhite2951 how do you know, did u try it out? Thats what the website says. All cars and ebikes are going to test in perfect conditions, so theres no difference in that. So maybe instead of 60 miles, you get 50-55 miles.
Nope, the e-bike >>I
1. There are many ebikes on Amazon that cost between $500 and $800, and you can buy good ebikes from reputable companies for between $800 and $1500. The most popular ebike sold in the US is probably the Lectric XP which costs $999. The price of the average new light vehicle in the US was $47,338 in early 2024, so it is idiotic to argue that ebikes are too expensive when compared to cars.
2a. Lithium mining is polluting, but much less polluting than extracting, refining and burning petroleum. 18% of the world's premature deaths are caused by fossil fuel emissions. If you look at lithium mines in places like Greenbushes, Australia and Atacama, Chile, there is nothing like the tar sands of Alberta, Canada, the half century of oil spills in Ogoniland, Nigeria, or even the fracking happening in the US. Only an idiot would argue that we shouldn't use ebikes for environmental reasons. An ebike emits roughly 18 grams of CO2 per passenger-km, compared to 8 g. for a normal bike, 99 g. for an electric car, 149 g. for a hybrid car, and 210 g. for a gasoline car (see: TNMT, 2021, The environmental impact of today’s transport types). Using ebikes instead of cars for transportation eliminates a huge amount of pollution.
2b. Lithium is not mined by children. In 2022, global lithium production was produced by Australia (51.2%), Chile (26.0%), China (15.5%), Argentina (4.5%) and other (2.8%). None of lithium mining is done in a way where child labor is likely. Pumping lithium rich water out of salt flats (Chile, Argentina, Tibet and Nevada) and hard rock mining of spodumene (Australia) and lepidolite (Yichun) is not the kind of mining where child labor is likely, and there are no news reports of it happening.
It is true that roughly 25,000 children are involved in mining cobalt in the Congo, and the most common battery chemistry in ebikes is NMC, but most of the cobalt is being eliminated as the industry increasing switches to formulas with less cobalt (NMC111 -> NMC532 -> NMC622 -> NMC811). Most lithium batteries in the future will switch to LMFP and other types of LFP derivatives which have no cobalt, and the move to sodium ion batteries in long term will eliminate all the metals but iron and aluminum, which are very abundant and easily mined.
3. Ebikes with 750 watt motors (like this one being reviewed) can usually handle steep grades with throttle only. The Lectric XP with a 500W motor (1000W peak) is a good hill climber. Yes, there are a lot of ebikes sold in Europe with just 250 watt motors which can't handle hills, because European regulations don't allow more powerful motors, but most ebikes sold in the US have 500W or larger motors and they should be able to handle most hills.
4. The average American driver drives 30.1 miles per day. Most Americans don't need an ebike that goes 10 times farther than they drive on an average day.
5. 100 km per hour is an extremely dangerous speed on an ebike. Most US states limit throttles on ebikes to 20 miles per hour and pedal assistance to 28 miles per hour. In most of Europe, throttles aren't allowed and pedal assistance is limited to 25 km per hour, so you are insane to demand that ebikes go 4 times faster. You must have a death wish.
6. If we suffer an apocalypse, it is far more likely that you will be able to get electricity from local wind turbines and solar panels to charge an ebike than you will be able to get gasoline to run an ICE vehicle. With an ebike, you can always pedal it if it runs out of a charge, but with a two ton car, you won't be able to move it without oil refineries and a gasoline/diesel distribution network.
7. Considering that you can recharge ebikes at home, at work or anywhere that has a standard electrical socket, why do you need to recharge in 5 minutes? Unlike cars, you don't need to take ebikes to special fueling stations to recharge, so there is less need to be able to recharge quickly.
Mmmm... I am thinking that we could be as close to10 years for your dream e-bike once Glass batteries become mainstream (except for the 100kph as that would be a motorcycle).
1. Nobody cares what you paid for you first car with 150k miles+ back in 1984
2. Everything is bad for the environment and there's no such thing as a battery thats not Lithium (despite what your dreams tell you)
3. Again, no such thing as 300 miles on a single charge, with optional gas power, or 5 min charging. This is a very child-like rant, not reality based that will never happen.
4. Start living your life in reality. Not sci-fi. No you cannot go live on Mars in the near future either just because you think its an eco-friendly good idea. (Thought I cover this before you mention it this next).
Lectric didn’t do shit , the Chinese did it . ALL e-bikes are designed in china! I would buy a goat bike that goes 45 mph before buying this for the same price
You’re right that most ebikes sold in the US are made (or at least assembled) in China, but I’m pretty sure the Lectric One was actually designed from the ground up at Lectric Headquarters. The Pinion gearing system is German made and I heard someone say it might actually be manufactured in Germany. Final assembly of the Lectric One is likely in China or Vietnam. All that being said, as much as the Chinese are typically involved in some part of making e-bikes, many designs start outside of China. The European ebike companies often design all their own e-bikes and non electric bikes.
Incorrect. Most are assembled in China but not designed there, just like iphones. But there are some cheap, but ok Chinese knockoff ebike brands where they copied the designs of popular ebikes brands. Thats about all they can do is provide cheap labor and copy others designs.
I can't wait till they get their new Bikes in stock xp 2.0 lite jw I ordered June 5th.