Most intense 27 minutes I can remember. I realised that Troy telling his story highlights the yin and yang of life. He seems so strong and so devastatingly fragile in the same breath. Thank you for sharing your story.
And the cycle continues. Just imagine for a moment that the drunk driver had something tragic happen to him 20 years before he kiled Troy's child. The drunk driver could've been in intense emotional pain for years and years before his car collided with Troy's family members. Troy put the drunk out of his misery, and Troy unknowingly picked up the burden himself. Maybe Troy will seriously hurt someone someday, while he's living the drug life. Maybe the cycle of grief, pain, and suffering will continue?
Why did he tell anyone about killing the drunk driver? I think he said he was drinking at the time. A strong individual but sad and karma is hugging him. Poo😢soul
"I would have to know what I know now" - The most incredibly honest and insightful answer. These interviews are so raw... I've never seen a better way to learn from other people's mistakes than listening to their story like this. Congrats on this channel
This channel has humbled me many times over. Mark has an incredible way of bringing out honest answers from each interviewee. So much respect for him 🙏🏽
This poor man Is carrying way too much on his shoulders.. He is so so hard on himself and this is the type of person that I think would benefit incredibly from rehab and therapy, and then play it forward.He himself says he’s ready now….He speaks beautifully and has such a soothing voice and I bet he could help a lot of people whether dealing with grief and or drugs .. my heart goes out to him and I hope he gets the help that he needs and deserves !
@@troyanthony7376 why are you lying?? Your” son” my brother was adopted at birth. I found him on Facebook a few years ago and sent you pics. There was no drunk driving that killed anyone in our family. You never murdered anyone. Why are you trying to manipulate people?????? - your daughter
@@brittanyb2630 thank you Brittany I keep posting that u say he's lying so hopefully Mark sees and reach out to you....prayers for your family I can't imagine seeing my dad lying out his teeth about something so serious......guess he said better look like a hero than villain
Normally I’d disagree about the getting justice for his son part, but since that guy showed no remorse, blamed his victims, and just kept on drinking and driving, it’s looking more n more like justice to me. I feel for Troy’s victim’s family though.
I love how he said: It’s when people start saying, “I would have done the same thing,” that I think it wasn’t such e great idea. Because when somebody dies, there’s no way you can ever bring them back. It’s like…he’s done what he did and he can’t change it now. But the idea that his crime might influence someone else to take a life is troubling. That shows he’s got a conscience.
He does. I can't say "I'd do the same" but I know I would be just as angered. Seeing just as much red as he saw when the drunk driver opened that door.
then you really think about it and wonder how many people he saved from getting killed by that same drunk driver who would’ve definitely driven drunk again.
@@JacksonDunnoKnows Definitely. I don’t think I know what I’d do and I feel grateful I never had to find out. I think a lot of us think we know we’d do this or that, but I’ve been tested enough to know I don’t always do what I thought I would. I never thought I’d do drugs until I had a bad day and woke up 7 year later, thinking, “What happened?” I got through that but I can’t take it back. I held myself back for too long, cause I was mad at myself. I hope he isn’t punishing himself. He did his time.
Mark has such an uncanny ability to bring out the most raw emotions and honesty. I never know what to expect from each interview and always leave a video more humble and empathetic than I started it. I can’t imagine what I’d do if someone ruined my family the way this drunk driver ruined his. He’s been through so much and has experienced so much loss, it truly breaks my heart 😪
It’s been a while since I’ve commented (work) but I still can’t get over how consistent, kind, and compassionate this man is. Mark treats everyone with respect no matter what walk of life they come! Thanks for giving the voiceless a voice mark! 💐
He is right…people who say, they would have done the same thing, don’t know the consequences! You could lose the rest of your family, lose yourself, never get out of jail….imagine the pain your children would go through!
I’m torn. I never unalived someone, but I took Justice in my own hands when someone I knew hurt a young family member of mine. I ruined this person’s life forever, which consequently hurt their family’s lives. But I made sure this person would think twice before they hurt another child, and they’d never forget the consequences of hurting a child, and their body will never be the same. I like to believe I did a service to the community by doing what I did, even though I hurt people by doing what I did. I feel some guilt, but I can’t say I wouldn’t have done it any differently if given a second chance. I get why Troy did it. I understand his guilt. But, It’s possible he saved lives by taking his.
Exactly. I have two young daughters and my husband always says he’d harm somebody if anything ever happened to one of them. I never understand that. Why? So you could be in jail for the rest of your life and leave me and your other daughter without a husband or father? Revenge might sound like a good idea, but I’m 100% sure it’s no as great as it may seem.
He’s only saying that because he got caught. If he didn’t get caught, he would be living his best life. But it’s because his family members decided to talk and that his mom was vindictive and literally called the FBI on him… it’s all her fault
This interview is by far the most educational and raw out of all of the videos I've seen in this channel. He deserves his family back in my opinion. He reacted emotionally just like most people would have, and then delt with the consequences and regret later. I feel for this man.
Troy . I hope you read this . I'm 58 next month and did state time back in the late 80s. I should have never survived the 80s but I did. Thanks to my sobriety! Please get into rehab soon.!!! We are similar yet very different . I too had a great childhood and great parents and siblings. But once my mom died in 1984 it obliterated the family . Too this day they whole family hasn't even had one Thanksgiving. I don't want to go on and on . I wish you the best . Your spirit and gentleness shines through the darkness.
I'm heartbroken for Troy one horrific incident destroyed his whole life. I really hope he gets his life together. He just needs someone to give him a break! He is so soft spoken and honest.
I almost didn't believe his story but the more he went on the more he convinced me I was wrong, old and bitter is not something anyone would want for themselves.
Man........... Life’s a trip....... A Korean dude told me something when I was a teen that sticks with me whenever I see a story about someone’s life relative to this gentleman..... Life is like a leaf floating downstream. Some leaves go down the stream smoothly on a flawless path until they one day just disintegrate. Some leaves get hung up on a rock for awhile eventually the water currents flow ideally to free up the leaf and the leaf continues down the stream.... Some leaves however get caught in a violent current thwarted downward and are trapped under a boulder under the current never to be released to continue their path downstream..... Sending this brother good thoughts and vibes... Hoping you find yourself gently flowing down the stream bro..... Thank you for your kindness and actions Mark...
Troy I am so very sorry for the loss of your son. The loss of a child impacts the surviving family in many different ways for many years. I hope you can find peace and a good life.
"It's the last thing I think about at night. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up". More than 20 years later, he's still there. I hope this shows that when anger takes the control of you, it changes your life forever. This is such a sad story. So tough to hear. He made the bad choice, once, only once, and he's paying the price forever :'(
His "an eye for an eye" interaction with the drunk driver that killed his son and destroyed his family may have stopped the drunk driver from destroying more lives. Always interesting, thanks!
@@sallyann985 Yeah..some of us know how to see things differently from others. It's ok to seek out the positives from the negatives. Negatives and positives both exist. It's easy to see the negatives, but to see the positives too, are a good thing to point out, so take it.
@@sallyann985 That's very true too, but you can't look at it from more than one angle, or what? Actually, no matter how you look at anything..there's always gonna be good and bad. You can choose bad if you want, no need for me to try and change your mind. Do what you want.
As an ex addict/addict who has worked in rehabs/prisons this is the type of guy that could be helped, not with rehab but get him secure stable with a prescription a guitar and away from the streets he could prosper and even look at rehab in the future once hes more stable in his day to day. I dont believe just sending people to rehab from the chaos works, they need to show you they want it by getting stable. GL Troy im a counselor free to you if u need to talk. (My dogs keep me stable find your version of dogs get a plant if its alive in a years time get a pet)
I have a picture in a frame that says “ Loose lips sinks ships”. So true, especially living on a little island. Breaks my heart how sad he is and I feel he is genuinely remorseful.
I appreciate your work Mark and am grateful to Tony (and the other brave people who are willing to share their life stories with us). This body of work helps create understanding for those who suffer what many cannot imagine surviving. In addition to the compassion which extends from this work, I believe a certain type of courage is displayed ... and courage is contagious. ~ Blessings to you and those who share their life experiences with us 🙏🏻🦁👑
@@sallyann985 yes, the guards put you in the area according to your race and each race is a gang... You HAVE to... And the whites (woods or woodpile) have rules and you have to work out everyday and there are rules from the shot caller and you have to follow them or you get beat up for like 23 seconds by other "woods".... They try to keep from riots breaking out so no associating with the other races... And this guy was in Folsom and they definitely do that there. Guarantee he had to get a tattoo of a swazi .... Or he could have been in PC (protective custody). But the child molesters and rapists are there and they also have rules. There's a pecking order, as it were... But the guards depend on the woods to kind of keep the peace. Riots are a BAD thing to happen. My husband was in prison in San Diego and his dad was in Folsom. I've heard some crazy stories.
@@CarrieLaffs your comment has been flagged by youtube and I'm the only one who can see it through the notification feed. That's a shame. I almost wanted to ask you if it happens in the women's prison as well but then you clarified that you weren't the one convicted, your husband was. What's the pecking order among the CMs and such if you're in protective custody?
@@sallyann985 doesn't surprise me, truth has a way of disappearing on this platform... I'm not too sure what the pecking order is in the CM area... But they end up there bc the other inmates either end them or seriously injure them if they find out you've got a charge of even DV against a woman or child. It's a vicious place to end up, so most of the DV abusers and CMs end up all together , protected. I guess TH-cam doesn't want the truth about the California penal system talked about.
@@CarrieLaffs usually youtube hides comments that contain "inappropriate" words, which is why I said CM in mine instead of the full word. This last comment of yours got flagged as well but I'm not sure why. TH-cam truly is an annoying site.
Troy you are so soft spoken. It is never too late my fellow human. ❤ Feels like you have a lot of insight to offer. Seems like you would make an excellent support worker. I wish you the best as you move forward in this life as we all must do everyday regardless of the circumstances we find laid out on our paths.
This guy single handedly made me agree with his previous actions and then made me realize he was wrong right a long side him. It’s so easy to think yea it’s the right thing but the law says another way, and I understand why but I never agreed. This made me agree. Great story!
Pain has humbled this man in the past. Only hope will see him through in the future. Praying for peace & recovery for you & your family, Troy. You deserve it. Let yourself find it.
I had to pause this one to keep from starting to cry. I would have done the same thing. And I'm not saying that's a good thing either. im saying that a lot of people would fall into this life by accident. I love this guy and I'd gladly take a guitar lesson from him
Troy is a good man. By committing this crime, he has shattered his life and that of his family. He has paid enough and now he deserves only the best. I hope that his daughter will talk to him again and that he will be surrounded by those he loves. Cheer up Troy!
@@baublesanddolls I feel empathy for him but I'm not sure I'd describe someone who "emptied the clip in his head " as "gentle". His side jobs were "modifying guns" and "dealing drugs". As someone who lost my best friend to drugs recently I have issues with the dealers, even although I know the main issue is within. I liked his honesty and respect him for it, I'm not as sure as others here seem to be that he's a blameless victim in all this though. I think it's more complicated and less black and white, just like life itself.
Troy your story will stay with me…I wish your life will take a turn and you will be able to find peace and happy place for yourself. You truly deserve it ❤️
Great interview. Shows how delicate life can be and how quickly it can all be flipped upside down. It happens to good people and we walk on by, ignoring these people on the streets staring down at our designer phone.
I think he looks pretty damn good for a 54 year old that’s lived such a hard life and is addicted to fentanyl. A lot of drug addicts look 20 years older than their actual age.
The love he has for his mom is impressing . He doesn’t blame her at all for the accident or telling on him , he’s actually sorry for the stress he induced in her .
While I'm empathetic to this man's story, he's wrong about the child safety seats. Those were absolutely required well before 1991. We couldn't take our first baby home until hospital staff confirmed that we had a correctly installed child safety seat in the back seat of our car in 1987. Holding a baby while riding in a car is not only extremely dangerous, but against the law. The family's negligence may have contributed to the drunk driver getting only probation.
I hope the best for this man he has been beaten down with life he can change and he needs to forgive his self first then all else will fall in place. Good luck to him
Troy, I wish I had the power to ease your pain. I understand how you were driven by loss. I know that, in your place, I would have had the same feelings. It's time you begin to forgive yourself. You know what you did was wrong and you paid the price. No need for you to continue to choose to live in hell. You're not doing anyone any good by punishing yourself. You can use what you've been through to help someone make better choices if you're free from the prison you choose to live in. You could help stop someone from destroying their life. Prayers, a hug and love from this Michigan grandma.🙏🤗❤️
Poor man, living with so much pain. Easier said than done, but don´t live in the past. You can never change the past. Live in the present and look to the future. I´ve never wanted the best for anyone more than him on this channel. Keep God on your side, Troy.
Whenever I see people on the street, homeless, I think of how difficult it must be to be alone. I am praying for Gods mercy and grace to be with Troy. 💗
What a tragic story. This is a prime example of how other peoples actions can fundamentally change your life. If that drunk driver doesn’t drink and drive that day, then we don’t have this interview. This man seems extremely self aware. It’s understandable to struggle with forgiving the driver when he never showed remorse. I find it hard to believe that any significant amount of people would do the same thing he did. Most lack the courage of their convictions. I pray this man finds peace.
So true. Most don't understand what it takes too get up close and personal enough too blow someone elses brains all over themselves. I enjoy firearms and am fully aware of the devastating affects they cause. I pray no one ever backs in a corner where I have to kill them. Yet, am fully prepared.
Absolutely heart wrenching. The finality, the inability to know that Troy speaks of. I have so much empathy for this man and his family. Mark, thank you for giving a voice to heart ache, tragedy, souls that have become lost, the addicted etc. I have to believe that what you do is a piece and part of the solution. It enables somebody the nudge or internal voice they need to make a different choice before events seal a worse fate or a fateful moment which cannot be undone. Watching this channel has re-awakened some personal empathy within me that had become obscured. I am grateful for this.
I gave birth to my son in 1989. We bought him an infant car seat...the type that can be removed from the base and you carry your baby in the seating portion...has the handle over the baby (looks like a basket handle) which makes going in and out of locations easy. As he grew, we purchased toddler seats that fit his height and weight. He eventually went into a child's booster seat. ALL of these child safety seats tethered to the car seat (strong belts and not easy to remove!). So Troy stating (timestamp 3:30) that back in 1991 that is was a "common thing" for people to sit with their babies in their laps in cars...I'm sorry, this is *not* true. I do not know anyone that did this in 1989 nor 1991 for that matter. My sister and I grew up in the 60s...so Yes, mothers did that back then, and maybe into the 70s (I wasn't paying attention), but child safety laws regarding secure seating in cars has always been evolving. Child safety seats were law BEFORE I had my baby. There is ample information on the internet regarding the timeline of how & when child safety seats became law. Unfortunately and IMHO, there was a lack of funds for Troy and his wife to buy a child's car seat. This also tells me that information like this would hurt their court case.. I am not saying a drunk driver is correct. I personally despise alcoholism and all the devastation that results from it. I'm guessing that the (paid for) defense attorney proved negligence with Troy and his wife. Proof of insurance, speeding, child safety...all gets exposed in cases like this. I'd have to read the court records to be sure, which are public. But as a new mother during that same time period...parts of the story are omitted or vague at best. A baby passed, God Bless him, RIP. No matter how it happened, it is very sad and I am so sorry for Troy's loss. He seems very nice and deals with regrets. I send my best wishes.
Likewise. I had my son in the 90’s and there absolutely were child safety seat laws in effect in fact . When I had my daughter in the middle 80’s there were laws on the books back then about having cars seats . They differed from the time I had my daughter and son but in both eras there definitely were child restraint seats in effect so that comment took me off guard. Now when I was growing up there were no such laws in effect. Still loosing his son has destroyed his family regardless. It’s easy to blame but what’s the point? For him . That single day . Destroyed him .
Yes I thought this too when he said that. I was born in 1981 and my parents had me solely in car seats as a baby and in the back till I was about 8 years old. Their baby may have survived if they didn’t have the child in their lap in the front seat. I’m sure this hurt his case against the sentence for the drunk driver.
@@nicolesawyer7117 I agree. If an adult in the passenger's seat ends up catapulting through the windshield and ends up on the hood of the car---no seatbelt, no airbag deployment. A baby sitting on someone's lap has no chance. It's a matter of time before your luck runs out. I'm sad just thinking about it.
@@nicolesawyer7117 I agree but I’m sure he knows this but just can’t accept it which is why I didn’t quite put it that way . Seems like he’s been crushed enough and it wasn’t his fault he wasn’t there so coming at him hard was something I didn’t want to do. He did say his wife was caught w drugs in her purse but he took the rap so I’m sure she’s aware of the damage she caused .
Articles appear in the paper any given day of the year...a motor vehicle accident, car rolls over multiple times...the only survivor in car is baby secured in child safety seat. It's hard for me to wrap my head around anyone taking chances like that.
Man! These interviews are so deep and raw. Just when you think that your own story was traumatic you hear these interviews. Just wow! Mark I'm absolutely without words. You have done an amazing job. You genuinely care and we all need to hear their voices.
Anger comes from the same place as sadness. Giving yourself time to understand your feelings in that moment and understanding that your actions affect more than just yourself is what maturity is all about.
Hey Dr. Phil maybe you could help him. I can’t imagine losing one of my children. I get the revenge part and I believe he didn’t think he would get caught. Alcohol is like truth serum, gets people to “sing like a bird” when they have it. I’m very sad for him. But the comment “I got addicted to heroin in prison” made my jaw drop. Best of luck to you Troy. I would do ANYTHING for my kids.
@@joenelson4629 Hi this is Troy's daughter. He is lying about 90% of what happened. My brother never died he was adopted at birth. I am in contact with him still. My mom was never in a drunk driving accident. However my grandmother was but she recovered after a few months and is completely functional. He has lied stolen hit my grandma. She tried to get him help many times to the point where they almost went bankrupt. There was even a point where my grandmother tried to end her life because my father kept hurting her and was ruining my grandmother's marriage. He has never murdered anyone. All that is a lie. He did go to prison but it was for something completely different. You can look it up on the San Bernardino Superior Court website. His prison record never stopped him from getting a job. He scammed the welfare office and lied and said he was unable to work when in fact he was capable of working. My grandmother let my father and I live in one of her houses for free for 10 years. My dad used to do heroin with me. When my grandmother figured it out she evicted him. I am now six years sober and have three beautiful children. My father has never met any of them nor did he want to. All he would call me for was money. He didn't care if I was behind on rent or had to pay my electric bill. All that mattered to him was heroin. I did everything I could to help him but all he cared about was himself and his addiction. He is a master manipulator. If you want the truth to the story here is my Facebook facebook.com/Brittb6
Loose lips sink ships. A secret is no longer a secret if you spill the beans to someone else. Even if the person was glad to hear it like his uncle was.
The penalty for drunk driving is too low. If the system punished that driver accordingly he would’ve never had the need to take justice into his own hands.
This story is so tragic, he seems so genuine and thoughtful. I love SWU for showcasing people like him that are too often dismissed out of hand. I hope he finds solace
I was 16 when my 15 year old brother was hit by a drunk driver and had severe brain trauma.. broken everything from waste down. Acoma for 9 months countless surgerys. Saddest part was he could still remember being normal.. but didnt look the same or think the same.. couldnt have relationships.. he committed suicide two years ago.. all because a woman decided to drive drunk … please think of all the peoples loves changed by getting behind the wheel under the influence.. i feel for this man. I wanted to do the same thing he actually did..
@@EdenPrime7 I don't know if you've seen it but yesterday we had a couple of addicts with hair just as nice as his. I'm almost wondering if there's something in the fentanyl.
Most intense 27 minutes I can remember. I realised that Troy telling his story highlights the yin and yang of life. He seems so strong and so devastatingly fragile in the same breath. Thank you for sharing your story.
@Bec L Older age and maturity often go hand in hand with strength and fragility. Just like Troy and for many of us: Hindsight is 20/20
You found it intense I found it lightly humourous, yin n yang
@@cascade00 Humerous? What part? 🤔
@@cascade00 Be careful of what you joke about. Your joking could end up biting you in the butt.
@@jadedmonk7001 just a figure of speech….The guy that killed that child got what he deserved hands down
Its an understatement to say I feel a lot of empathy for this guy. What a tragic way for things to have ruined his life.
And the cycle continues. Just imagine for a moment that the drunk driver had something tragic happen to him 20 years before he kiled Troy's child. The drunk driver could've been in intense emotional pain for years and years before his car collided with Troy's family members. Troy put the drunk out of his misery, and Troy unknowingly picked up the burden himself. Maybe Troy will seriously hurt someone someday, while he's living the drug life. Maybe the cycle of grief, pain, and suffering will continue?
Why did he tell anyone about killing the drunk driver? I think he said he was drinking at the time. A strong individual but sad and karma is hugging him. Poo😢soul
One of the most sympathetic interviews I’ve seen. This poor man has been to hell and back.
Except he’s not back.
@@rsdouglass4 Yah.💔💔💔
He's still in hell.
God, I wish I could give him the gift of peace. He seems to have such a beautiful soul, and appears repentant. I pray he can find peace.
but didnt he kill somebody?
"I would have to know what I know now" - The most incredibly honest and insightful answer. These interviews are so raw... I've never seen a better way to learn from other people's mistakes than listening to their story like this. Congrats on this channel
That statement always bothered me.
This channel has humbled me many times over. Mark has an incredible way of bringing out honest answers from each interviewee. So much respect for him 🙏🏽
He didn't say that... he said "if I know I'd wake up everyday a grumpy old man"
@@LostSox why did it bother you?
@@GRyanBee you're talking towards the end, I meant th-cam.com/video/cuqQUeA3PAk/w-d-xo.html, when he's asked if he would have been able to forgive.
This poor man Is carrying way too much on his shoulders.. He is so so hard on himself and this is the type of person that I think would benefit incredibly from rehab and therapy, and then play it forward.He himself says he’s ready now….He speaks beautifully and has such a soothing voice and I bet he could help a lot of people whether dealing with grief and or drugs .. my heart goes out to him and I hope he gets the help that he needs and deserves !
Amen.👍
I absolutely agree. Beautifully said!
Hello this is Troy I've wanted to answer a few people out there but we'll act
@@troyanthony7376 why are you lying?? Your” son” my brother was adopted at birth. I found him on Facebook a few years ago and sent you pics. There was no drunk driving that killed anyone in our family. You never murdered anyone. Why are you trying to manipulate people??????
- your daughter
@@brittanyb2630 thank you Brittany I keep posting that u say he's lying so hopefully Mark sees and reach out to you....prayers for your family I can't imagine seeing my dad lying out his teeth about something so serious......guess he said better look like a hero than villain
He is so soft spoken. Troy. Can’t blame you for what you did. You got Justice for your son.. hang in there. Hoping you find peace in your life.
Normally I’d disagree about the getting justice for his son part, but since that guy showed no remorse, blamed his victims, and just kept on drinking and driving, it’s looking more n more like justice to me. I feel for Troy’s victim’s family though.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213 Not even debatable. Good riddance to that guy. He would have killed someone else, more than likely.
No, fk this guy. Judge, jury, & exectuoner. Most likely a liar as well
Well said😊
@@Lorena-vq7jy I wish i was in a position to help this guy. He's so sincere and i hope his daughters can see the good in this man.
I love how he said:
It’s when people start saying, “I would have done the same thing,” that I think it wasn’t such e great idea. Because when somebody dies, there’s no way you can ever bring them back.
It’s like…he’s done what he did and he can’t change it now. But the idea that his crime might influence someone else to take a life is troubling. That shows he’s got a conscience.
Yeah, that sentence hit my ear the same way. That was pretty powerful.
He does. I can't say "I'd do the same" but I know I would be just as angered. Seeing just as much red as he saw when the drunk driver opened that door.
then you really think about it and wonder how many people he saved from getting killed by that same drunk driver who would’ve definitely driven drunk again.
@@JacksonDunnoKnows Definitely. I don’t think I know what I’d do and I feel grateful I never had to find out. I think a lot of us think we know we’d do this or that, but I’ve been tested enough to know I don’t always do what I thought I would. I never thought I’d do drugs until I had a bad day and woke up 7 year later, thinking, “What happened?” I got through that but I can’t take it back. I held myself back for too long, cause I was mad at myself. I hope he isn’t punishing himself. He did his time.
This is his daughter and he is lying
This man is just a real human and so incredibly honest. Just bad bad decisions.
Mark has such an uncanny ability to bring out the most raw emotions and honesty. I never know what to expect from each interview and always leave a video more humble and empathetic than I started it. I can’t imagine what I’d do if someone ruined my family the way this drunk driver ruined his. He’s been through so much and has experienced so much loss, it truly breaks my heart 😪
For so many of us: Old age and maturity can cause deep reflection and we realize too often that hindsight could've been absolute foresight
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Khalilah D u are a gd baddie.
Have you seen out of the furnace?
This is his daughter and he is lying
It’s been a while since I’ve commented (work) but I still can’t get over how consistent, kind, and compassionate this man is. Mark treats everyone with respect no matter what walk of life they come! Thanks for giving the voiceless a voice mark! 💐
He is right…people who say, they would have done the same thing, don’t know the consequences! You could lose the rest of your family, lose yourself, never get out of jail….imagine the pain your children would go through!
I’m torn. I never unalived someone, but I took Justice in my own hands when someone I knew hurt a young family member of mine. I ruined this person’s life forever, which consequently hurt their family’s lives. But I made sure this person would think twice before they hurt another child, and they’d never forget the consequences of hurting a child, and their body will never be the same. I like to believe I did a service to the community by doing what I did, even though I hurt people by doing what I did. I feel some guilt, but I can’t say I wouldn’t have done it any differently if given a second chance. I get why Troy did it. I understand his guilt. But, It’s possible he saved lives by taking his.
Exactly. I have two young daughters and my husband always says he’d harm somebody if anything ever happened to one of them. I never understand that. Why? So you could be in jail for the rest of your life and leave me and your other daughter without a husband or father? Revenge might sound like a good idea, but I’m 100% sure it’s no as great as it may seem.
He’s only saying that because he got caught. If he didn’t get caught, he would be living his best life. But it’s because his family members decided to talk and that his mom was vindictive and literally called the FBI on him… it’s all her fault
@@johnnypiss 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
@@infontay believe what you want.
This is one of my favorite interviews, thank you Mark.
This interview is by far the most educational and raw out of all of the videos I've seen in this channel. He deserves his family back in my opinion. He reacted emotionally just like most people would have, and then delt with the consequences and regret later. I feel for this man.
So much sadness in his eyes. I truly hope he can get into rehab and turn his life around.
I can't imagine the pain in his heart.😢💔
Having no professional training, only this opinion, I would say he is ready to make that turn. Take the initiative Troy and seek rehab bro.
@@gdon2897 I pray he will.🙏
I hope that the dude gets clean and is able to reunite with his mom and daughters. Something positive to live for after such trauma.
He needs to ditch his F*cked up mom forever!!!!
How one event can change so many peoples lives. This was a very heartbreaking story. I wish you the best Troy.
These are the videos that change how we think. I am so sorry for your losses sir. I hope you find peace and forgive yourself. Thank you Mark.
Troy . I hope you read this . I'm 58 next month and did state time back in the late 80s. I should have never survived the 80s but I did. Thanks to my sobriety! Please get into rehab soon.!!! We are similar yet very different . I too had a great childhood and great parents and siblings. But once my mom died in 1984 it obliterated the family . Too this day they whole family hasn't even had one Thanksgiving. I don't want to go on and on . I wish you the best . Your spirit and gentleness shines through the darkness.
Very kind comments I hope he reads them
I'm heartbroken for Troy one horrific incident destroyed his whole life. I really hope he gets his life together. He just needs someone to give him a break! He is so soft spoken and honest.
I almost didn't believe his story but the more he went on the more he convinced me I was wrong, old and bitter is not something anyone would want for themselves.
This man deserves a second and third chance. Just one horrible accident took his whole life and family to the opposite direction. It's just sad
Everyone does. Especially the drunk driver who killed his son and permanently damaged his mom. Fk this guy. Judge, Jury, & Executioner
And that's life.
This can happen to any of us
@@liamwinter4512 Your life been pretty tragic?
@@liamwinter4512 How's your wife and kids?🤔
I love him. He has such a gentle demeanor. I pray he turns his life around. Some people are dealt some hard blows.
This is his daughter and he is lying
Man...........
Life’s a trip.......
A Korean dude told me something when I was a teen that sticks with me whenever I see a story about someone’s life relative to this gentleman.....
Life is like a leaf floating downstream.
Some leaves go down the stream smoothly on a flawless path until they one day just disintegrate.
Some leaves get hung up on a rock for awhile eventually the water currents flow ideally to free up the leaf and the leaf continues down the stream....
Some leaves however get caught in a violent current thwarted downward and are trapped under a boulder under the current never to be released to continue their path downstream.....
Sending this brother good thoughts and vibes...
Hoping you find yourself gently flowing down the stream bro.....
Thank you for your kindness and actions Mark...
You made a deal , Troy. Stop hurting yourself. Stay in the light. You rule Mark.
Troy you did what anyone would do. Forgive yourself. It’s time to live a good life
You missed his point though. He regrets it.
Troy I am so very sorry for the loss of your son. The loss of a child impacts the surviving family in many different ways for many years. I hope you can find peace and a good life.
Hi Mark!
This man is brutally honest & burdened in regret, tough call....
"It's the last thing I think about at night. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up".
More than 20 years later, he's still there.
I hope this shows that when anger takes the control of you, it changes your life forever.
This is such a sad story.
So tough to hear.
He made the bad choice, once, only once, and he's paying the price forever :'(
Still crying everytime i watching this... So sad even i watched it couple of times
His "an eye for an eye" interaction with the drunk driver that killed his son and destroyed his family may have stopped the drunk driver from destroying more lives. Always interesting, thanks!
People would pull anything out of the hat just to find something positive to say on this channel.
@@sallyann985
Yeah..some of us know how to see things differently from others. It's ok to seek out the positives from the negatives. Negatives and positives both exist. It's easy to see the negatives, but to see the positives too, are a good thing to point out, so take it.
@@wesleyAlan9179 🙌 exactly
@@wesleyAlan9179 that a guy died leaving his family in God knows what state is not a positive thing to point out.
@@sallyann985
That's very true too, but you can't look at it from more than one angle, or what?
Actually, no matter how you look at anything..there's always gonna be good and bad. You can choose bad if you want, no need for me to try and change your mind. Do what you want.
"Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.” - Mark Twain
His story has absolutely stunned me. I truly hope he can find a way to forgive himself
SWU THE BEST TH-cam CHANNEL OUT HERE, REAL PPL, REAL LIFE, REAL STORIES!!! We love you mark!!! Keep it up buddy
As an ex addict/addict who has worked in rehabs/prisons this is the type of guy that could be helped, not with rehab but get him secure stable with a prescription a guitar and away from the streets he could prosper and even look at rehab in the future once hes more stable in his day to day. I dont believe just sending people to rehab from the chaos works, they need to show you they want it by getting stable. GL Troy im a counselor free to you if u need to talk. (My dogs keep me stable find your version of dogs get a plant if its alive in a years time get a pet)
This is his daughter and he is lying
Great advice thanks to you for reaching out
@@brittanyb2630... You're Troy's daughter? Can you explain?
Mark- I owe you a great deal of gratitude for these videos. They have helped me in ways you wouldn’t understand. Thank you
Truly heartbreaking. I pray he finds peace. Thank you, Mark!
This is his daughter and he is lying
I have a picture in a frame that says “ Loose lips sinks ships”. So true, especially living on a little island. Breaks my heart how sad he is and I feel he is genuinely remorseful.
Good Morning from 6:00am Brooklyn to whatever it is wherever you are my SWU fam.
Good morning Eyes, have a good day my brother!5:24am in Denver, lol.at least it was!lol!
@Gram #7 Yessir. You too man, you and yours.
Hi from Australia . 21.34pm in Qld. Have a good day mate
@Benjamin Barrett Alright!😁
USA🙂. Australia🙃
Good Morning from Nashville. Be careful out there today, Eyes!
Please Troy, forgive yourself. I guess your suffering was enough already. Love to you, make the rest of your life treating you well, please!
Bless you Troy, Sorry for your loss. Keep your head up. Seem like a real nice guy with good intentions.
Definitely
My heart goes out to you Troy, you’re a good man who has been put into some horrible situations. May God bless you brother !
Worthwhile interview. I hope he finds peace, he deserves peace.
I hope he pulls it together. He could help others by mentoring
That's what i thought, too
I appreciate your work Mark and am grateful to Tony (and the other brave people who are willing to share their life stories with us). This body of work helps create understanding for those who suffer what many cannot imagine surviving. In addition to the compassion which extends from this work, I believe a certain type of courage is displayed ... and courage is contagious. ~ Blessings to you and those who share their life experiences with us 🙏🏻🦁👑
I deleted my other comment but being in prison in Cali is no joke, respect this guy for making it through that, for real.
Because of the gangs?
@@sallyann985 yes, the guards put you in the area according to your race and each race is a gang... You HAVE to... And the whites (woods or woodpile) have rules and you have to work out everyday and there are rules from the shot caller and you have to follow them or you get beat up for like 23 seconds by other "woods".... They try to keep from riots breaking out so no associating with the other races... And this guy was in Folsom and they definitely do that there. Guarantee he had to get a tattoo of a swazi .... Or he could have been in PC (protective custody). But the child molesters and rapists are there and they also have rules. There's a pecking order, as it were... But the guards depend on the woods to kind of keep the peace. Riots are a BAD thing to happen. My husband was in prison in San Diego and his dad was in Folsom. I've heard some crazy stories.
@@CarrieLaffs your comment has been flagged by youtube and I'm the only one who can see it through the notification feed. That's a shame. I almost wanted to ask you if it happens in the women's prison as well but then you clarified that you weren't the one convicted, your husband was.
What's the pecking order among the CMs and such if you're in protective custody?
@@sallyann985 doesn't surprise me, truth has a way of disappearing on this platform... I'm not too sure what the pecking order is in the CM area... But they end up there bc the other inmates either end them or seriously injure them if they find out you've got a charge of even DV against a woman or child. It's a vicious place to end up, so most of the DV abusers and CMs end up all together , protected. I guess TH-cam doesn't want the truth about the California penal system talked about.
@@CarrieLaffs usually youtube hides comments that contain "inappropriate" words, which is why I said CM in mine instead of the full word. This last comment of yours got flagged as well but I'm not sure why. TH-cam truly is an annoying site.
This channel keeps on giving!
Much Love to you Mark and SWU Fam💜
❤️
Troy you are so soft spoken. It is never too late my fellow human. ❤ Feels like you have a lot of insight to offer. Seems like you would make an excellent support worker. I wish you the best as you move forward in this life as we all must do everyday regardless of the circumstances we find laid out on our paths.
One of my favorites interviews you’ve done
The right set of circumstances could put many of us in similar shoes.
@ wishbone20t
Indeed, even the mighty can fall, they might sneer & scoff but put that shoe on the other foot.....it becomes a different game !
Absolutely 💯 %
The most helpful stories are brutally honest stories without lying to make you seem noble just raw truth. This guy is exactly what I mean
He's true blue I could listen to him for hours. Others I can't keep listening because of their voice or demeanor
This guy single handedly made me agree with his previous actions and then made me realize he was wrong right a long side him. It’s so easy to think yea it’s the right thing but the law says another way, and I understand why but I never agreed. This made me agree. Great story!
Definitely a smart guy
very real, one of your best.
Pain has humbled this man in the past.
Only hope will see him through in the future.
Praying for peace & recovery for you & your family, Troy.
You deserve it. Let yourself find it.
Guitar 'Music' lessons, and your story, valuable gifts to so many.
So very valuable. He has such good inside
I had to pause this one to keep from starting to cry. I would have done the same thing. And I'm not saying that's a good thing either. im saying that a lot of people would fall into this life by accident. I love this guy and I'd gladly take a guitar lesson from him
I wouldn’t! I couldn’t do this to my family! It didn’t bring any good to Troy or his family.
Hey
@@jaionarich9119 sup
@@majbrittcastrupjrgensen2874 To take control of your anger would take a lot of strength.
Music is so therapeutic
Troy is a good man. By committing this crime, he has shattered his life and that of his family. He has paid enough and now he deserves only the best. I hope that his daughter will talk to him again and that he will be surrounded by those he loves. Cheer up Troy!
@@baublesanddolls We need to know what their mother said. The guilt will always be there but he has the right to live and to know happy moments.
@@baublesanddolls I feel empathy for him but I'm not sure I'd describe someone who "emptied the clip in his head " as "gentle".
His side jobs were "modifying guns" and "dealing drugs". As someone who lost my best friend to drugs recently I have issues with the dealers, even although I know the main issue is within.
I liked his honesty and respect him for it, I'm not as sure as others here seem to be that he's a blameless victim in all this though. I think it's more complicated and less black and white, just like life itself.
@@willsmith39 yea man this comment section is scary lol.
Troy your story will stay with me…I wish your life will take a turn and you will be able to find peace and happy place for yourself. You truly deserve it ❤️
Great interview. Shows how delicate life can be and how quickly it can all be flipped upside down. It happens to good people and we walk on by, ignoring these people on the streets staring down at our designer phone.
“Designer phone” 😂
Nice way of putting it. We could end up there at any time
Your interview skills are amazing…best channel on TH-cam
I think he looks pretty damn good for a 54 year old that’s lived such a hard life and is addicted to fentanyl. A lot of drug addicts look 20 years older than their actual age.
It's the juvenile hair line. Very rare at his age
This is his daughter and he is lying
I bet with a clean shaven face he looks younger
Thanks
The love he has for his mom is impressing . He doesn’t blame her at all for the accident or telling on him , he’s actually sorry for the stress he induced in her .
While I'm empathetic to this man's story, he's wrong about the child safety seats. Those were absolutely required well before 1991. We couldn't take our first baby home until hospital staff confirmed that we had a correctly installed child safety seat in the back seat of our car in 1987. Holding a baby while riding in a car is not only extremely dangerous, but against the law. The family's negligence may have contributed to the drunk driver getting only probation.
Maybe so but driving drunk is brutal
@@tambourine36 I completely agree.
I hope the best for this man he has been beaten down with life he can change and he needs to forgive his self first then all else will fall in place. Good luck to him
Troy, I wish I had the power to ease your pain. I understand how you were driven by loss. I know that, in your place, I would have had the same feelings.
It's time you begin to forgive yourself. You know what you did was wrong and you paid the price. No need for you to continue to choose to live in hell. You're not doing anyone any good by punishing yourself. You can use what you've been through to help someone make better choices if you're free from the prison you choose to live in. You could help stop someone from destroying their life.
Prayers, a hug and love from this Michigan grandma.🙏🤗❤️
He needs these loving comments
Poor man, living with so much pain. Easier said than done, but don´t live in the past. You can never change the past. Live in the present and look to the future. I´ve never wanted the best for anyone more than him on this channel. Keep God on your side, Troy.
Mark please help him get into that program he's speaking about. He's clearly ready
Whenever I see people on the street, homeless, I think of how difficult it must be to be alone. I am praying for Gods mercy and grace to be with Troy. 💗
Good morning SWU much love and respect to you from Louisiana ❤️
❤🤟😄good morning from Atl!
What a tragic story. This is a prime example of how other peoples actions can fundamentally change your life. If that drunk driver doesn’t drink and drive that day, then we don’t have this interview. This man seems extremely self aware. It’s understandable to struggle with forgiving the driver when he never showed remorse. I find it hard to believe that any significant amount of people would do the same thing he did. Most lack the courage of their convictions. I pray this man finds peace.
So true. Most don't understand what it takes too get up close and personal enough too blow someone elses brains all over themselves.
I enjoy firearms and am fully aware of the devastating affects they cause.
I pray no one ever backs in a corner where I have to kill them. Yet, am fully prepared.
This is his daughter and he is lying
I don't think we have to forgive if someone isn't sorry
I am so sorry brother 😢 I lost my son in 2008 I know how bad that hurts. I'm praying for you 🙏
My condolences go out to you and your family. May your son Rest In Peace.
Such a loving supportive group on here I hope the people speaking get a chance to see they are loved
I’m amazed how together most of these guys are.
I couldn’t conversation quite so well.
I’ve been alone for so long I’ve stopped needing to chat
Absolutely heart wrenching. The finality, the inability to know that Troy speaks of. I have so much empathy for this man and his family. Mark, thank you for giving a voice to heart ache, tragedy, souls that have become lost, the addicted etc. I have to believe that what you do is a piece and part of the solution. It enables somebody the nudge or internal voice they need to make a different choice before events seal a worse fate or a fateful moment which cannot be undone. Watching this channel has re-awakened some personal empathy within me that had become obscured. I am grateful for this.
Thank you for sharing and being strong enough to tell us all the truth Troy💪
The truth is always so much easier for us to listen to and his calm voice is soothing
I gave birth to my son in 1989. We bought him an infant car seat...the type that can be removed from the base and you carry your baby in the seating portion...has the handle over the baby (looks like a basket handle) which makes going in and out of locations easy. As he grew, we purchased toddler seats that fit his height and weight. He eventually went into a child's booster seat. ALL of these child safety seats tethered to the car seat (strong belts and not easy to remove!).
So Troy stating (timestamp 3:30) that back in 1991 that is was a "common thing" for people to sit with their babies in their laps in cars...I'm sorry, this is *not* true. I do not know anyone that did this in 1989 nor 1991 for that matter. My sister and I grew up in the 60s...so Yes, mothers did that back then, and maybe into the 70s (I wasn't paying attention), but child safety laws regarding secure seating in cars has always been evolving. Child safety seats were law BEFORE I had my baby. There is ample information on the internet regarding the timeline of how & when child safety seats became law.
Unfortunately and IMHO, there was a lack of funds for Troy and his wife to buy a child's car seat. This also tells me that information like this would hurt their court case.. I am not saying a drunk driver is correct. I personally despise alcoholism and all the devastation that results from it. I'm guessing that the (paid for) defense attorney proved negligence with Troy and his wife. Proof of insurance, speeding, child safety...all gets exposed in cases like this. I'd have to read the court records to be sure, which are public. But as a new mother during that same time period...parts of the story are omitted or vague at best.
A baby passed, God Bless him, RIP. No matter how it happened, it is very sad and I am so sorry for Troy's loss. He seems very nice and deals with regrets. I send my best wishes.
Likewise. I had my son in the 90’s and there absolutely were child safety seat laws in effect in fact . When I had my daughter in the middle 80’s there were laws on the books back then about having cars seats . They differed from the time I had my daughter and son but in both eras there definitely were child restraint seats in effect so that comment took me off guard. Now when I was growing up there were no such laws in effect. Still loosing his son has destroyed his family regardless. It’s easy to blame but what’s the point? For him . That single day . Destroyed him .
Yes I thought this too when he said that. I was born in 1981 and my parents had me solely in car seats as a baby and in the back till I was about 8 years old. Their baby may have survived if they didn’t have the child in their lap in the front seat. I’m sure this hurt his case against the sentence for the drunk driver.
@@nicolesawyer7117
I agree. If an adult in the passenger's seat ends up catapulting through the windshield and ends up on the hood of the car---no seatbelt, no airbag deployment. A baby sitting on someone's lap has no chance. It's a matter of time before your luck runs out. I'm sad just thinking about it.
@@nicolesawyer7117 I agree but I’m sure he knows this but just can’t accept it which is why I didn’t quite put it that way . Seems like he’s been crushed enough and it wasn’t his fault he wasn’t there so coming at him hard was something I didn’t want to do. He did say his wife was caught w drugs in her purse but he took the rap so I’m sure she’s aware of the damage she caused .
Articles appear in the paper any given day of the year...a motor vehicle accident, car rolls over multiple times...the only survivor in car is baby secured in child safety seat. It's hard for me to wrap my head around anyone taking chances like that.
I hope he can reuniré with his family and get out of this situation. He seems really good hearted, wish him the best
This is his daughter and he is lying
Man! These interviews are so deep and raw. Just when you think that your own story was traumatic you hear these interviews. Just wow! Mark I'm absolutely without words. You have done an amazing job. You genuinely care and we all need to hear their voices.
I have to donate to this channel. It has taught me so much. I love learning about others and their lives. Thank you for your work Mark. ❤️
Heartbreaking story.
I want some goodness and light in this man's life more than my own. 🌻
So sorry for your pain and loss , and brokenness
what a lovely soft spoken guy.
Notice everyone who was on fentanyl sounds like this? Like their sound is gone from their voice
One of the most interesting ones yet. Mark your videos get better and better
Anger comes from the same place as sadness. Giving yourself time to understand your feelings in that moment and understanding that your actions affect more than just yourself is what maturity is all about.
Wow, this is one of your best interviews. It’s really heartbreaking. Troy, I wish you the best.
I think one of your opening questions for every interview needs to be age. Helps to give context to the whole story
The pain & remorse radiates through this man's soul..I pray some kind of healing & peace for him & all involved🤎
Hey Dr. Phil maybe you could help him. I can’t imagine losing one of my children. I get the revenge part and I believe he didn’t think he would get caught. Alcohol is like truth serum, gets people to “sing like a bird” when they have it. I’m very sad for him. But the comment “I got addicted to heroin in prison” made my jaw drop. Best of luck to you Troy. I would do ANYTHING for my kids.
Yes heroin in prison… The “justice” system… an absolute failure.
This is his daughter and he is lying
This man's story is a testament to our failed country.
This is his daughter and he is lying
@@brittanyb2630 would you mind elaborating?
@@joenelson4629 I posted this as a comment on this channel. I just copy and pasted it.
@@joenelson4629 my comment keeps getting deleted. Do you have Facebook so I can send it there?
@@joenelson4629 Hi this is Troy's daughter. He is lying about 90% of what happened. My brother never died he was adopted at birth. I am in contact with him still. My mom was never in a drunk driving accident. However my grandmother was but she recovered after a few months and is completely functional. He has lied
stolen hit my grandma. She tried to get him help many times to the point where they almost went bankrupt.
There was even a point where my grandmother tried to end her life because my father kept hurting her and was ruining my grandmother's marriage. He has never
murdered anyone. All that is a lie. He did go to prison but it was for something completely different. You can look it up on the San Bernardino Superior Court
website. His prison record never stopped him from getting a job. He scammed the welfare office and lied and said he was unable to work when in fact he was capable of working. My grandmother let my father and I live in one of her houses for free for 10 years. My dad
used to do heroin with me. When my grandmother figured it out she evicted him. I am now six years sober and have three beautiful children. My father has
never met any of them nor did he want to. All he would call me for was money. He didn't care if I was behind on rent or had to pay my electric bill. All that mattered to him was heroin. I did everything I could to help him
but all he cared about was himself and his addiction. He is a master manipulator. If you want the truth to the story here is my Facebook
facebook.com/Brittb6
One of you’re best interviews stay strong Troy ! I have 16 months clean from fentanyl you can do this !
Need to interview him again please
Yes for sure I think we've let him into our hearts
This man is so soft spoken. Life can sure give you a raw deal. So sorry.
I’m mad at his uncle for snitching. Hope his girls will talk to him again
Loose lips sink ships. A secret is no longer a secret if you spill the beans to someone else. Even if the person was glad to hear it like his uncle was.
@@vanillacream2383 true, I agree
I've heard of this happening to others. Very sad especially if there's no reason for it
The penalty for drunk driving is too low. If the system punished that driver accordingly he would’ve never had the need to take justice into his own hands.
You can really feel the desolation Troy lives through. I hope his family sees this and can witness the suffering, remorse, and humanity he displays.
This is his daughter and he is lying
This story is so tragic, he seems so genuine and thoughtful. I love SWU for showcasing people like him that are too often dismissed out of hand. I hope he finds solace
We never know what people are going through.
I was 16 when my 15 year old brother was hit by a drunk driver and had severe brain trauma.. broken everything from waste down. Acoma for 9 months countless surgerys. Saddest part was he could still remember being normal.. but didnt look the same or think the same.. couldnt have relationships.. he committed suicide two years ago.. all because a woman decided to drive drunk … please think of all the peoples loves changed by getting behind the wheel under the influence.. i feel for this man. I wanted to do the same thing he actually did..
Haunting interview......brought me to tears.
Very sad and tragic story. I hope he can find peace. God bless.
I used to be this man's barber in Fontana I never thought I'd see him on here
So you're the secret to his cool hair.
@@sallyann985 I haven't seen him in about 2 years he dissapeared from the area
@@EdenPrime7 I don't know if you've seen it but yesterday we had a couple of addicts with hair just as nice as his. I'm almost wondering if there's something in the fentanyl.
He could definitely use you now as a friend and a good haircut