Chinese CAR SCAM EXPOSED - They STOLE $31,000 and Sent me a PINK GOLF CART.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2020
- Here's the full story of the chinese electric car scam and how it happened. Last video, I took delivery of my "electric supercar" from china, only to realize I had been scammed and lost $32,000. But at least I have a pink golf cart now. So there's that. I ordered this car last December, and just barely got the car 8 months later.
DO NOT BUY FROM Zhenjiang Zibon Electric Vehicles Co., Ltd.
You have been warned.
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We should all abuse the persons email address. Lets all put in multiple orders! 😁😂
Hahaha YES 😆
Brilliant idea yessss
How about shipping then a truckload of Winnie the Pooh merchandise and Free Hong Kong signs and t-shirts?
Release his email
@@TheInja what is his email mate? Im keen to order 50 news cars for the Australian market😃
I almost fell for this exact scam! Luckily I took my 30 grand and invested with a very nice Nigerian Prince. He says my money is in good hands and I expect good returns soon!!
ROI for you!
Lmao.
😂😂😂😂
@@charlieredeemed I'm also laughing 😂😂
We just need one more payment and we will send you your money
How to avoid scam 101- Don't do business with guy named Tony from china.
Raghav Parihar Made my day 😂😂😂😂
Lots of guys named Tony and vinny in china
I would also like to add James or Rebecca from India
Don't do business with guys named Tony period.
Tony? You know Tony too huh
It’s actually pretty amazing that they shipped you anything at all.
Don't believe this story at all, it took me less than a minute to research this vehicle he wanted to buy. Back in 2020 the predicted price of this car, that had yet to be produced was $125,000. I do price comparisons on everything I buy, even on a can of tuna. I'm not saying everyone thinks like me but I am pretty sure that if you're buying a brand new car even in the U.S. you're going to do a price comparison. Now if you're going to buy a brand new car from a foreign country and have it shipped to you I would assume that would be the very first thing you would do, especially when you see a price of $29,000 for an electric supercar!? Keep in mind this guy thought he was going to pay $29, 000 that meant the retailer he was buying it from, because he was not getting it from the factory, had to make their cut. That means they were buying the car from the factory for probably somewhere around 20 to $22,000. A brand new Honda Civic cost almost $30,000!!!
@@dannydonnelly8345 truly a strange tale. You're right. Makes for awesome youtube drama though!
@@dannydonnelly8345 the car literally only has 325hp I don’t think it was worth it anyway. You could get a gr Supra or something for the same price and faster.
@@dannydonnelly8345 贫穷限制了你的想象😁😁
@@user-xe1gd7yt8z who are you
Had you ever thought about adding another $2K to your overall expenses, flying over, staying, inspecting it, to see it get crated? I'm impressed that you took the risk.
Yeah, I agree! Like you’re going to blindly send $30k in hopes that it’s legit!? If you have $30k in your account to purchase a car cash, why not spend what $1600 to go there and know that you’re getting what you’re paying for!!??
There is no way in hell I’ll ever send $30k to someone I don’t know, I can’t physically see… so many red flags that I almost think this was all a calculated risk to get major views on YT… Also, his videos on this have had millions of views so chances are he is not hurting much from this…
@@michaelvickers89 That's a good point, plane tickets aren't that expensive If you're willing to fly coach, a couple grand here Could have caught the scammer redhanded . You might have even gotten a nice Chinese vacation out of it( Granted stepping into the peoples Republic and out of the tourist zones makes my skin crawl)
@@mrspeigle1 you wouldn’t even believe the level of scams in China. Couldn’t begin to comprehend. It’s all controlled by Government.
@@Glostahdude sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. How do you know the government has anything to do with any of this? These kind of scams go on in this country too buddy. All the time. Just look on craigslist. The fact is this guy was extremely stupid if the story is true. this car lists for $129,000 back in 2020. If he seriously did this thinking he was going to get a $129,000 car that hadn't even been produced yet, for a fraction of the cost is naive as you are.
Or adding the $2k now to fly over and burn down the house of the guy you were communicating with for the purchase
When they said they don’t accet credit cards and ask for a wire transfer instead that should of been a big red flag
Ikr, that's the biggest red flag, enough to cover the entirety of planet earth. That's like the most obvious giveaway. No way in hell does an established international automobile company not accept EVERY form of universal payment available.
He skipped Over that by saying he didn’t get a reply... so he just sent the money by wire... lmao
andycarollsuarez I mean lots of companies would never want to take the cut that a credit cars would charge for a big purchase like that. You almost never see that in normal circumstances
The biggest red flag was that there was a 70k dollar SUPERCAR offered on ALIBABA for 30k. The same website you can buy plastic toys for 30 cents on...
Not really. Wire transfers are the normal way to pay in business. Alibaba is actually a B2B site and not B2C. The big red flag is that the supplier did want to go through the Alibaba system, which has some sort of safety mechanism.
"My point here is, I hope you guys get the sense that it feels legit"
There's nothing about this that feels legit.
I totally agree !!! So many red flags !!! I hate it for this guy but he should have at least caught it wen they wouldn't accept protected payment methods.... I still feel sorry for the guy though
@@issadraco532 very well put !!! He obviously is living better than most to afford to buy a 30k car and new house !!! BUT IT WAS SO OBVIOUS !!!!
Still feel sorry for the guy though...
🙌👍
Yep but he’s so young and I bet he will never get scammed again so might have been a 40 thousand dollar education and with the price of school these days he got off pretty cheap!
@@issadraco532 Wow, i like your the racists recommendation.
What can i recommend from before buying expensive things online is :
1. Buy it from reputable company
2. Check the internet to see if other people have already bought the product from the company
3. Make sure that you can return the wrong item
4. Make sure that the online platform hold the money until you receive the item
I had considered putting the time into researching the possibilities of ordering EVs from China as well, but I wouldn't have had the resources to have gathered even half as much information as you uncovered to begin with, and you STILL got bitten. It makes me glad that I didn't follow through with those plans, but I hate seeing some one else getting scammed. I have happily watched, liked, and commented on all of these videos now in the hopes that the YT algorithms will shuffle these forward. Thank you again, so much, for sticking it out through this and letting us bear witness to your journey!
May I ask why would you want to order from China?
Thank you for sharing. This is something I wanted to look into. You seem to be the only person attempting to put factory direct purchasing into perspective for the individual consumer. I'm sorry you had to go through this though. Damn shame
Much appreciated and glad to help out!
You can also get advice from seasoned Amazon sellers who deal with sellers on alibaba regularly. they hace consignments by freight often so may have more experience to check shipment at China ports.
Suggestion: Contact the Chinese consulate in Los Angeles and explain the situation. Their government is sensitive to trade issues and might come down hard on these guys. China wants to expand their auto export business and might want to resolve your situation. Worth a try anyway. Good luck and enjoy your pink golf cart ;)
They are litteraly the gold standard for intellectual property fraud. They don't care and neither does the consulate. They are ruthless.
@@RP-ue9wy yep
I still think this is a great suggestion he does not lose anything by at least trying.
With the state of things China can not afford this level of bad publicity contacting government oversight agencies both U.S and Chaina will at the very least add Pressure to the company so its 100% worth trying
It's all corrupt save ur time
Red flags in those emails for sure. Hope you can get this sorted
No sorting this...it's a done deal.
I agree 👍🌈
Thanks for putting that video together for whom it May concern.God bless your trusting soul and don't beat yourself up too bad about it. You did all the homework you could do and went into it as informed as you possibly could have. With all the scams out there there is always a new and unique way of getting someone, no matter how smart we are.
I've only just watched this, I'd like to just say a few things. Firstly you have a massive set of balls to share this with others which might actually stop someone else getting scammed. To all those hating on you he admits it was his own fault and he's been scammed, the guy already feels bad enough and doesn't need salt rubbed into the wounds.
Finally I hope you have learned from this costly mistake and won't a similar mistake again, you said it yourself - if it seems to good to be true it probably is - next time pay attention to the red flags of which there were many) and react to them. I genuinely wish you the best in future as you seem like a really nice person even if you were a bit naive. Thank you for sharing.
He should've did more research, FOOK HIM!!!!!!
When a chinese guys tells you that you can register a back-alley chinese manufactured car in the US you should know its a scam..
Never, never, never go outside of Alibaba, or Aliexpress. Always contract within and pay via your credit card. With a wire transfer your money is gone. And Paypal, doesn’t operate within China?
yes, paypal operates on china, i buy pc stuff to resell here on brazil and all transactions are made with paypal. Not had a single problem at all with my suplier, even if i had, i can cancel the payment if the seller doesnt play honestly
Nícolas Piano Are correct they do operate inside China. Just checked and been that way least a year. One aspect of this clone car not discussed. If a genuine copy had arrived would the intellectual property owner sue the buyer? Just trying to get my head around the situation it’s a huge wedge of money to lose. Maybe the Inja, pull something out the hat and recoup his loses, we should spur him on to greatness and more good content.
yep, this comment officer, this men!😊 p.s. i gues this whan he did he did it knowingly for everything just for contern i suppose!?🤫
never buy anything costly overseas. ! Even if hegotten that car it may be total crap. so if you have 40 k to blow, just go get tesla 3. or finance tesla S. at least u get service and parts if needed.
@@ansv3340 Teslas are ugly, boring, and way too common on TH-cam for anyone to care.
This is just a nightmare. Sorry you had such a bad experience. Thank you for for posting and hopefully we can all learn a lesson from this. Be well.
Wow! That really sucks. Hate you went through that. Much respect for your professionalism and level headedness. Your videos are fun to watch and very resourceful. Keep up the good work!
When you're spending that kind of money, it's worth it to fly over there and bring it back on your own.
Yea really. Sounds like they are doing drugs to me. A normal person would have been crying and screaming with pain. But his frind says , I just stuck a nail all the way true my hand. Yea these guys are crack heads for sure.
Right?? Weird..
Xitler 维尼大帝 no it’s not, how was he supposed to get to China from USA?????? Have u heard of the global pandemic we are currently in??? He would’ve had to wait at least 2 years to fly there. So no, it’s not “weird”
Not possible, COVID means he can’t fly over and would have to wait for ages. So no, time is money and he’d be waiting too long for it to be worth jr
That means we should never trust in chinese products. If I was a legit chinese enterprise, I would be really mad at them. Lowering china reputation.
I lost brain cells watching this
Bruh.
I know I'm thinking "is this a skit?" No one could be so dumb.
Bro im sorry you went through this i see it in your face i was just about to do this same exact thing and i just had a feeling to check youtube and you just saved my life, my marriage, my everything because im very trust just like you and my wife says so all the time and im happy i can trust you so easily because i know i would have lost everything trying buy these cars because because i just thought it was everything i needed to make that next step and im sorry you went through this but im also happy that you are a good person and took the time to share this situation and being so informative. So that you soo much and god bless you and your family. And keep striving bro your having it your way frfr 💯 💪 thanks fam 💯
I'm sorry you didn't get your dream car. I do hope this works out for the best though. You exposed a scam and probably helped a ton of people and I hope your series makes it back with a profit. You're a hero, in a way, and no amount of money can buy that.
Emails were suspicious as hell. Clearly you got ahead of yourself.
Sorry you got scammed. Here's a real deal, a Nigerian Prince has a large sum of money he wants to get out of the country. If you send him money to pay off corrupt officials, he'll share the money he smuggles out of Nigeria.
Lmao I know right....wait was wondering if you might be interested in owning your own bridge
My favorite 419 was a Nigerian airman was stuck on MIR and needed to pay the Russians for a rocket launch etc etc etc
Hi I'm down on my luck ATM I really need a break is this Nigerian offer legit I can get the funds asap ??
This scam got nothing to do with Nigeria. China run more scams than any COUNTRY in the world.
@@xlgoldfish ... Good SOH required
Hey man, I randomly stumped on your channel, i am not even into cars. I know it happened over 2 years ago, but i hope you recovered from it and everything is much better for you.
*edit*
ok, i've just seen your making of epic scamborghini video from 2021, glad you've made the best of the situation.
Love the channel. I feel for you bro. Good things come to good people. I hope things work out for you
You were getting scammed every step of the way on this.
@Matt Six Yep
I did scam baiting for over 2 years, almost every day (I purposely went after scammers to expose them) and was featured on the news for my work. I also blog about cars so here it goes. There were way too many red flags here. #1 being you thought you were getting what is a $150k super car for $31k. It doesn't seem they sent you any photos of *the* car that would be shipped. They sent you photos of *a* Qiantu at car shows and from promo pics and vids. The spec sheet (which the real Quiantu (shi-an-tu) isn't even close to being a real super car. It's more like my Chevy Trax if it were electric) looks like it was put together by a kid with little computer experience. The scammer asking for partial payment is a common scam thing. There were so many emails, the scammer was getting angry and just wanted anything from you. Asking for the wire transfer should have been the final straw. Then you sent them more money when they made up a bogus excuse?? When you didn't hear from them after the payments, that solidifies the scam. THEN he gets mad and wants immediate payment in full. Goodness, this is textbook scam stuff. I'm sorry man, you really fell for this hard and you're trying to convince yourself you were right (You keep saying "Oh that's standard"). The good news is, you got a Chinese micro car that may be considered a fun "novelty" here and could sell to the right collector here in the US. OR if you made this all up for attention, it's not convincing and I don't know how people like you have any money. Most people your age don't have an extra $31,000 to drop like this, so surely it's no dent in whatever you have. I feel bad for the elderly who are scammed out of their life savings. Apparently you have enough to buy a house in LA and drop $31k on a car over 6-7 months.
Well said
Yup huge red flag, if the car cost the equivalent of a $150000 in China , why would anyone ship one overseas for $30000 from the US? Even if they were desperate to sell I promise you they could have found a buyer in mainland China For 2 to 3 times that amount.
....and at 9:38 he says something about a "sample car" which he can sell within 60 days so he can get the real one?? Like what is that???? Yeah, the red flags were constant. "net 30 or net 60"... lol. This isn't a business to business transaction where you're ordering 20,000 paperclips, you're buying a car here. He's also obviously got money, I looked him up, not to mention he owns a pretty badass nice new Camaro and a beautiful home that he actually did purchase near the time of this video. (I'm not going to release any of his personal info but I know who he is.) You said it all perfect, I don't need to go on.
Yeah, the silence then demand for immediate payment, that wasn't a red flag, that was a freaking red gate that says cut your losses and don't proceed. I'm very curious about the next video that says he got a refund in a scam way?
He's a millennial and a cringetuber, they can drop 50 grand like its $5. You know how all your taxpayer dollars go to the government who then sends it to kids like this for their "college tuition"? Yeah, this is where that college money goes. Many many more millennials lost 1/4 million or more dumping their entire college fund into bitcoins, lost it all, then committed suicide after realizing they can't get the money back.
I am from Hong Kong, we send inspector to China and check the production or progress, For overseas buyers if no one inspect for you in China ALWAYS use SGS to verify docs and actual goods loaded on container. BTW, Chinese brand electric cars now are ONLY real if they are REAL manufacturers and can easily get vetted by any of your local China friends. No local Chinese friends to help you, DONT buy expensive stuff!
I totally felt you in the other video as you came to the gutwrenching conclusion it was the wrong car.
Thank you for documenting this painful experience and hopefully you gain some revenue from it. It were the first two videos I saw of you and you look like a stand up guy.
As you reached out to your audience in Chinese, I'd see if you can investigate more. For example the email address: is it legit connected to the physical business? Or is it some scammer to pretend to be them online?
If the first, there are some possibilities for public shame by Chinese "locals".
When he started getting rude is when I'd stop the purchase. Just me.
They all do that, sadly
@@TheInja not true bro, I've done some business through Alibaba, and the suppliers I still work with today are very respectful, the ones that were kinda rude I dismissed, can't know for sure if they were a scam but thankfully the ones I have actually done business with are very respectful yeah.
Fuzzman I was saying the same thing. No company would talk to a customer like that.Never pay money until you have the product. You can see why people think this is just to make a a video. 500 dollars is a lot if money to write off in these times. And you are writing this off like its not a great big deal.
Me 2
The Inja Actually its a big red flag as no company will treat a customer like that
$40K for a Tesla or $30K for a Zhenjiang Zibon hmmmm 🤔
It's $40K after transport and customs. He said it in the last video.
@@vesogry a pink golf cart. $40k. After customs and transport. Let that sink in
@@vesogry I think he said he was trying to get his money back from customs.
😝👍👍
Well he wanted to do a series of a car that isn’t “overrated”. Tesla video series are kinda overrated for say, and he wanted to do a series on a unique electric car from China
I should say upfront, 99% of everything I’ve bought online has been as described and I’ve been happy with the sellers I’ve done business with. I would do business with them again. As this video points out, there’s a bad apple in every bunch and all of us have been burned from time to time - so he shouldn’t feel alone in this. No one likes being taken advantage of and cheated out of their money. We do due diligence and exercise care but sometimes things do take a bad turn and this video shows us how not to be scammed in the future.
I’m so sorry you got scammed. They are very convincing. It’s such a shame that people go to all the trouble to set up a fake website and change the rules to collect the money without delivery of the correct product. I’m sure they’ll just claim like they do with all the people they scam, that they shipped the wrong car and will make it right…and then ghost you. We should all email that company and just play them for all it’s worth.
Would love fpr you to buy a ticket, fly to China and go speak to "Tony" and his finance department. Film everything, post it as part of this series. Enjoyed your bike series.
Also, I know I've mentioned this on some videos before, but you do know that Inja means "dog" in Zulu...? Not sure if the nickname is intentional or not
Hey Tony... You no fukka wivva da family Capisce ?
You wake up wivva horses head ina da bed yes ?
@@0utcastAussie Sigh, yeah great idea, an American goes to China and threatens a Chinese citizen and company :-/ Do you have any idea how vulnerable you are over there in China? Remember they have a 99% (not kidding, nearly a guarantee) conviction rate.
@@HalfBreedMix
It's an excerpt from the Movie "The Godfather"
Humour... Remember what that is ?
@@HalfBreedMix agreed a foreigner filming in China will see you put on jail. Serpentza very nearly arrested but managed to make his escape through Hong-Kong Kong
Hey, Nick, truly sorry to hear your story ,as myself in the manafuring business in China, it is very rare for a sales to use personal email to communicate with customers if he/she is the real manufacturer, more like a trader or scammers with those irregular means limited by thier scale or low budget, always verify their factory site before your order, it tells the most about their strength to build cars. Any way, don't let this unfortunate case be your hatred build-up base towards all other honest and trustful car manufacturers in China. Cheers
I am so sorry to hear your story, you are just a good guy with an honest trusting nature.
You are what we need in this life, don't let this experience change your character, it's only a car.
Good luck my friend.
Regards
Paul.
(Ireland)
I’m talking to Tony about getting 20 EV’s for my “delivery fleet” he is working hard to get specs and numbers prepped for me...
Eric LGN lol!!🤣
hahahahahaaha. savage! u win!!!!!!!!
lol you should ask for some custom bling for your fleet. like a giant chicken that can dance on Q some 50 inch rims lol
Eric good luck with that lol
You really think some guy in China has customer satisfaction in mind😂
Ni hao. So sorry you got scammed. It's nice you share this scram. Si Jian.
Thanks for telling me not to buy from them. But I’m not dumb enough to buy a “super car” from a Chinese company.
Especially when they immediately go against terms of the contract. They were willing to lie in the contract, what else are they lying about? They definitely didn't want him seeing the car before payment and pushed him as hard as possible to get the payment. I fell for something like this ONCE. A guy offered to sell me something at school, some collectible from a recent fad. I paid half with the promise that I'd get it the next day. Nothing. Then the day after "I didn't get it to you because you didn't finish paying it!". Finished paying it, dude never talked to me again.
When you search the price of qiantu k50 the price is expected to be more than a hundred grand and you're telling you only have to pay 32 grand for it? That is an obvious red flag there no point getting suprised by it.
ikr
I agree. If you van buy it straight from the manufacturer for 30k. Why would anybody by it for the retail price of 100k. It doesnt make sense. That's why these kind of things doesn't happen. For example phones of Chinese brands. You can get them for maybe a little bit cheaper on Alibaba, but not for 1/3 of the price. If you do find them for 1/3 of the price, you know it isnt legit. That common sense. That's why I still think this video itself is a scam. A very smart elaborate one I admit.
@@bobvanalphen8078 how would this video be a scam? That made no fucking sense, dude. What is he getting from this video? He has all email content and the proof to show what he ordered vs what he got. Are you an idiot?
Right? Like buying a U$200 Iphone 12 Plus on Wish!!!
@@bigcauc7530 what is he getting? Are you dumb or do you not know how youtube works?
I would like to thank you for exposing this scammer, once again people, if it looks too good to be true? What is it? Hopefully, this ordeal along with others will shut this guy down. However for everyone who gets exposed two more take his place. I would like to see the Chinese govt. investigate and take real action against scammers. It always begins with us, the consumers, just keep going till you find an honest price for a vehicle you know. As far as the updated car you did receive I stick to my adage, You can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Thank you.
I died when tony was like "we did not notice that, we will ship a new one immediately."
That car only costs about $3000 here in the Philippines. You really got scammed really hard.
Yeah mega scam
I was gonna say that... seen micro sized Hyundai, bigger than this car in video, in Philippines for about 9k usd top end model...
I like the hard, like really, really HARD, without lube, very rough...
I need a link to that lol
Yeah and the Quiantu K50 cost $150,000. So if somebody says they have one for $29,000, stop right there
You're a lovely guy. But quite naive.. I'm so sorry you got scammed.
It took me a couple minutes to check out the supplier report available on Alibaba to see this is a company with no track record and 3 orders in the last 180 days. I wouldn't even buy a t-shirt from them.
I’ve been scammed a few times, but nothing too bank breaking. Still getting scammed, but i have only risked a few dollars and i understood the risk. 98% of the time, it has been a good risk, accurate items, great seller.
Scammers probably rely on people not contesting because it’s not worth the fight. So watching you fight makes me feel real tired 😅.
Good series.
Man, disregard all those experts commenting negatively for your misdemeanour. Watching your journey purchasing the car, I can see easily how you were taken in by these mugs. Everything shown was convincing and seemed real. I am about to watch your next video, and hope this turn in your favour and these clowns are called out. Keep up the videos. Thanks for sharing and bringing this to our attention. I purchase from the internet all the time. Watching this though, purchasers - BE AWARE!
When they asked for another $2000 I had to cover. I would've pulled outta the deal then. That's just me.
Sadly, I've found that add on costs are commonplace when dealing with Chinese companies. They quote a low base price, then make it back from options.
For sure. But I know people who ship $100,000+ shipments and because of the Rona, shipping is literally $30K more per shipment for them. Wasn't a red flag to me at all.
@@TheInja thats true. I work with a factory in pakistan and shipping went up a lot!
He was already hooked at that point. The time to be suspicious was when they wanted a payment method that could not be reversed, and wanted to do it outside of Alibaba's protection. I can see his surprised Pikachu face as he sees the crate. It was obvious long before that.
@@S2Tubes I agree. This was a red flag with a bulls eye right in the middle. Wire transfer is a hell no. "Standard practice" or not.
So many redflags yet you kept giving them money. Lord.
DAMN Thanks for sharing. Just goes to show you how good these scam artists are. Hope you've had some luck recooping your losses
Wow, this really socks. At least you handle it well. Don't let the hater bring you down.
i was with you till you transferred the $15k, then nah this guy is clueless.
Contract already said "within 60 days of delivery". Dude should have stood his ground and said "No".
Yah. 💯
Dude, he released the $2000 he placed on hold after he got the pink golf cart. I can't believe these scams actually work.
@@Blackspidy619 it actually said 50 days. But still, he shouldn’t have let the seller change the terms
"If it sounds to good to be true, it is to good to he true." I live by those words and I have never been scammed. We get scammed because we get greedy.
That’s so true!!
FACTS
True... but along they way you actually missed some legit good deals... :D
And it may warm your heart just a little bit knowing that almost certainly you have cost them some money, if even one person did half the homework you did and comes across your video. Good luck to you in the future Sir.
I just saw the last video today. I'll be honest and I thought that there was a high probability of it being fake but I decided to continue watching to see where it goes. I only post comments on videos where it is 100% obviously a fake video which this wasn't. Upon the opening of this video and you calling out the company, I then believed that you were an actual victim.
There are so many fake videos on YT that many of us are jaded. I've been scammed before, so I know the feeling.
I have a lot of respect for this comment. Not often that someone informs themselves and decides not to troll anyway. Thanks dude! Glad it worked out in the end. Bad feeling knowing you got scammed.
This guy doesnt know the 25 year import law is a thing...
I was thinking that myself.... even if they did send him a real car he would be making a video about how he didn’t know about the 25 year rule lol
Wow, so he couldn't even register it even if it was the real deal. I guess he could run it on a track? It doesn't seem that's what he was planning though. So either his brain melted when he was buying the car or he's bullshitting us.
You got scammed like its year 2000 and people didn't know better.
What have you done with your life ?
hes lucky he got anythign shipped period lol
@@GiozRockin it does not make any sense.
Coolissim0 Unl1mited well I’ve never blindly paid some Chinese guy 30k like a moron
@@crazymotionride well you haven't done shit with your life either.
Red flags:
Bad english for international business.
Not accepting credit cards and prefer wire transfers.
Contact disappearing for weeks without answering.
Something that comes out of the blue and is urgent like more payments.
In the end you learned something new and you warned us about this.
And I consider that to be more valuable than many other things.
Thank you.
As a Chinese who currently live in US, I hate this kind of trash and fraud to discredit Chinese business. piece of shiiiii. They should be in Jail.
How did you get that far without realizing it was a scam
he was hoping to get scammed, i can't believe someone would go this far, it's entertaining to watch ngl
Because its ethier fake for a vide or the dude has an IQ of 80
Ryan Forrest he knew the whole time, it’s part of the show.
He did it for the channel
Yes. Injan planned it. Most probably got paid to do anti-Chinese bashing Op.
When he didn’t send pictures of your “costume” car, that would’ve been it. I ain’t sending 1 penny to someone that can’t do the minimum! Smh 101% your fault I’m sorry!
This was hard to watch
100% agree with your video. Sorry this happened. Everything for a wise purpose. Really appreciate it.
Big fan of your TH-cam channel ❤
Dude after this pandemic ends you should go to both the companies who scammed you .and do like an undercover thing.
Thats a great idea! And at least do it like the Punisher 😂
Yes!! I was going to comment this
yeah i agree.. wanna join him?
Yeah in a country where there is not even freedom of speech...
Don't ever go there. If the shit hits the fan, do you think you'll get out of there? The only thing we need to send to China is the worlds military
Not to be one of those guys, but I definitely would not have gone outside of Allibaba (Especially after the Bike). They have protections for a reason and if they're not willing to work within them then the potential for scams goes through the roof. But I won't say "you should have known," that doesn't help anyone feel better. Everyone that has *ever* been scammed started off with the impression that they were safe. Heck it's probably why haters made assertions about the validity of the video, people get stung and they get more gun shy about trusting. I think from now on for anything larger than some batteries, I'd buy from a second party who has already gone through the importing process, the extra money you would spend buys you a little more peace of mind. Anyway I look forward to the car redemption arc!
This is why I love Wish.com
I just deleted my alibaba app.
I was planning on buying some wheels from them, before I found this video. THANK YOU
glad you got a refund.
I can tell you were pretty sincere and very hurt. I hate that this has happened to you man! It sucks to be scammed and unable to do anything about it. If you're a believer, I really hope God blesses you for the loss.
Red flags you didn't take note of:
1. The email address of the seller is Gmail
2. Insist on Trade Assurance, Alibaba would even warn you to keep all conversations on Alibaba.
3. You could have walked away with those flags but you ignored.
Sorry for your loss Pal.
That's the only red flag I noticed
I don't even chat outside of Alibaba. Those their WeChat, WhatsApp chats don't work on me. It's either Alibaba chat or NOTHING. That way I'll have evidence to open dispute with. With Gmail communication, Alibaba trade assurance is out the window as Alibaba can't do anything as the deal lacks any credible evidence. Also I never pay outside of Alibaba, though the sellers say that it is higher; I don't care about the higher fees attached. At least I won't get ripped off.
@@xlgoldfish you are very right, always insist on Trade Assurance, though lately they have been ruling in favour of the sellers, but you will have alibaba itself to drag issues with who will in turn fish out the culprit seller . I think we all should look for alternatives, China can not be holding us all to ransom in the name of cheap things
@@thinkdiyafrica That's true, for now they sure appear to be the cheaper alternative.
Yes no company has an email on gmail....they have emails on their own name
what about the extra random 2K tony asked for?
Funny I would of noticed scam long before I sent the $5000
I would have noticed the scam the moment the guy didn't want to go through an insured payment method.
thank you for revealing this scam company and sharing your story with us.
Not a bad thing, and your girl is lucky. But you are very trusting. We should always err on the side of caution. To me, red flag is the tacky website, the bank wire instead of cc and the lack of professionalism in emails. Is easy to look back and see errors, and I know how blind we get when excited about something we want. Good luck to you
I am sorry to tell, but there were many red flags:
- The company only accepting direct wire transfer.
- The email of the company guy you were talking to is a gmail account.
- They keep asking for "small" transfers to cover fees, problems, taxes....
My heart goes out to you over this ordeal, especially after getting a new house and the expenses that go along with that. Hopefully your wife is understanding and doesn't say "i told you so" too many times. I pray that some solution comes out of this and possible someone sees this video with the power to correct the mistake.
She is amazing. She never said it once. She was just as disappointed as me but always just kept moving forward. ♥️
It is absolutely hilarious how you are trying to explain how legit it all seemed. Only a complete fool would do something like this.
I randomly came across your video and felt very bad that you got scam by this SZ based company. I can assure you that this is not the norm with Chinese companies and I deal with many of them daily. I live near SZ and have a company based there. If you don't mind paying me a small amount to cover the time and trouble to check out such a purchase for you before payment/shipment, I would be happy to do so. Don't have to be me, but I would highly recommend you find someone in China to check the goods for such substantial purchase.
No, don;t apologise for the length of your video. It was very informative and I believe it was the same company that scammed my dad a few years ago.
“It all looked legit.” Yeah, your gonna get the car in the picture for $25k lol
Seems like a 100% great idea
A couple of things Inja, you seems to be a very nice guy so please don’t take this personally but:
- Buying from alibaba do not imply buying from manufactures automatically
- The company behind this guy Tony is not the manufacturer of the K50, this is just obvious...They can try to pretend to be resellers or indépendant dealership at best looking by the size of their operation but how could you ever believe they where representing a MULTI-BILION dollar Gov funded EV factory ?
- Qiantu do NOT sell on Alibaba, why would they ? They will never do such thing since they are positioning themselves as a luxury brand. And Like I said, they are a multi billion dollars company backed by the Chinese Gov. And they actually have an official rollout to import officially the K50 to the world in the future, the USA included.
- Do you really think that a $100k+ sportcar is manufactured for less than $25k ? and that anyone would make any profit selling it new for that price? You just don’t know how car manufacturing works my friend and what the profit margin are in this business. It’s just ignorance at this point. Qiantu is selling at lost (zero profit), and they will sell at lost for the next 10 years before reaching scale and having any sort of ROI (return on investment). AGAIN That’s billions of $ invested in R&D, factory and manufacturing...its will take years before any profit and they can do that only because they are backed by their government, its a long term stategy. It Can be a huge win for them or it can be a huge disaster, the future will tell for sure.
- Just by the price of the listing it was an obvious scam 🤷🏻♂️ . I bet you can’t even get one in salvage condition for this price in China...I mean this car comes with a shit load of handmade carbon fiber parts...Too new, too high-end, too high-tech to find any deal anywhere on that car...and definitely no deal « new from factory on Alibaba » that’s delusional 🤣
- Next time, i hope you will do your homework better my fiend, was you did was not enough ;) hope you get your money back somehow. Try to get them backlisted as scammers by Alibaba and PayPal at least to get some kind of justice.
25k is a lot in China, way more than the cost of that car. 10k could buy that.
Normal cars in China are 10k, this is likely 5k
If your buyung a car in China fly there is actually not that hard. You would have been impressed if you actislly fly there to buy. Ive done it a bunch, China was how i made money before covid, and the profit is insane high
You should really go there if you have money to play with, the deals are crazy but you must be there to actually check and confirm the item.
They have too many sketchy tactics
If you actually want to go there hit me up, i know respectable accountable people in yiwu i have dealt with a lot
@@ryananouar Spot on.
@@ooosteve yeah the one he got, not the one he orderd
Well, you're saving a lot of other people from being scammed. Not only for electric cars, but everything along similar lines.
I subscribed and watched all the commercials. Hopefully that gets you a dollar back.
*"due diligence"*
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😆
Thank you for sharing. I’m in the import/export business. Everyone is giving you a hard time, however it’s quite common to require funds be paid prior to the shipment arriving at the destination port. The seller can hold the Bill of Lading which would prevent you from collecting the goods from the port. When I sell goods to my buyers, we offer no “terms” meaning we require payment once the goods are on board. There’s a lot of trust and that’s the risk importers take. However they pass this risk in terms of markup to their customers. Sometimes even the biggest importers with tons of experience get burned by dishonest manufacturers, and there’s really no claims process that will get you your money back. Unfortunately you took the risk directly by going to the manufacturer. In the future you can look into a standby letter of credit and set terms in the LC releasing payment only when goods arrive at their destination. The LC assures you get the BL to take delivery of the goods and works like an escrow service. His contract clearly states payment in 60 days and after the car is on the road, but he changed the terms mid shipment. Unfortunately he retains all of the power since you guys are on a cash basis and operating outside of Alibaba protections. The money you lost is worth the cost to hire an attorney in China. You may need to make a visit to China to pursue the case but the threat of a lawsuit on what is arguably a scam on his part might be enough for him to settle. Do not let him get away with this.
100% true!! if your are in this business you would understand. Trust is the most valuable currency in foreign trade and trust is build by risk taking.
chino1127 this doesnt mean he wasnt stupid in buying a super car for 31k off of alibaba from china with some sus transactions.
Good to hear there's other reputable businesses out there.. 👍🌈
Umm, your whole channel is about you being scammed.
Not really actually! My original audience comes from my several motorcycle build series
@@TheInja we'll the Chinese stuff is what propelled. I really feel for you man, that's the kind of thing that can ruin you financially. China hates us and does not have the value set we do. All the Chinese TH-camrs had to escape China recently it seams it getting so bad.
The cat at the end cracked me up lol
I'm watching this video and suddenly a wild Alibaba ad appears
Dang man. I definitely believe you. This was very informational as I’ve shown my wife tons of housing kits that are very similar in price since we’ve been looking into moving to another country. My theory was the same, this is too much money not to receive a product and alibaba wouldn’t allow this type of scam to happen. These companies Look so legit but thanks to this video I think I’ll pass now.
The style of the e-mails written by the"company" reveals the odds for a scam....no formal composition or even capital letters at the beginning of the sentences....That is also a suspicion.
I agree 👍🌈
Experienced buyer, hours of research.......You don’t get a 90k car for 30k. It’s THAT simple. I’m sorry for you though. Your wife be on your case for years now!
retail and factory prices are different, you won't believe how cheap things are manufactured than what you see on most retail shops online
@@spanishsausage4731 l work in retail myself so know this.
@@Rondawwg i work in retail too, home appliances but the automotive industry in china is far different from the mainstream. People there don't care much about the product, looks, and overall build (mostly sketchy factories owned by a family) as long as they have a small profit. They don't care much about their brand like most westerners do, i worked with someone from china (now in Afghanistan) that knows exactly the business there, usually car manufacturers in china treat their products like a cheap Chinese watch.
90k for a car what can ride 225kmh? Are you dumb?
4:48 note the spec sheet says 400hp, but the front page PR image of the same car said 240hp.
Mean while in China there is a 16 year old school girl who is absolutely thrilled with her birthday present. Looks so much better than the photo on the website.
Dude that website immediately said scam.
Thank you so much for communicating this scam. I can see it was difficult to do but it does a great service for others!!
Ali ripped me off on a cordless impact. I'm flying off the walls.
Love your videos
Thanks Jeff!
He didn’t learn his lesson the 1st time.lets try again ohh they scammed me again 🤦🏻♂️
I'd never give more than 10$ to man with gmail. Business email only for any contract.
No even then bro... it cost 10$ a year to get a domain name and email... $150 per year to host or $12/month... don’t even trust an email with a domain name either. I have to see them in business for over 3-5 years.
@@KiLLACAiN yes you're right. I mean, email should match company profile. Dunno if it would help in this situation though.
It was a business email. You can see it in the emails.
Reminds me of the "record deal" from "Burna boy records" I was "offered" with a "100 million dollar sign on bonus" and a "flight to London" for a "party"!!! All I needed was my bank information for "transfer of funds"
"to look legit" is the motto of Chinese small business lol
I did some research on the k50 sports car it costs $149,000 dollars . He got you with the oldest scam in the game . Because you wanted it so bad he played on that and instead of just getting you for the initial upfront money he got you for the whole 30 . It's really messed up you seem like such a nice guy.
Saw so many red flags way before money was sent.
Never make a high priced order without a lawyer
First I want to say I feel you on many levels. As an American living outside the U.S. WHo has spent the last ten years trying to launch a tech company with seriously powerful life-affirming implementation, for the entire planet and a successful side hustle in digital marketing, I have seen piracy of epic proportions and it was only after I moved outside of the U.S. that I understood just how much we Americans take for granted. I can also see firsthand how the Chinese GOVERNMENT (I say government as I have found it's the government of countries that makes the country) "bad" and it's safe to generalize governments and NOT the people of any given country. There are good and bad people from all over the planet. Anyway, I know the media has historically labeled Africa as THE model planetary scammers and that is really astounding that in the west an entire continent is generalized incorrectly as I've experienced differently but in Ghana and many other West African countries, I've learned that they have established EV vehicles that are on par with Tesla Motor and in my opinion, exceed the luxury level of Tesla and Lucid. Why not buy from one of the many options you have and do a video with the same respect as you were giving to China (A country). I'm sure the prices are way more affordable and you would be received with the actual kindness and respect all foreigners receive when trading with Africa. The historical account of this is irrefutable. The The Innoson is my second fav, they make consumer vehicles for mass transit and all are EVs. The V8 engine, 1100 Horsepower (RPM), and a top speed that is estimated at 175 mph is RAAAAR But it will set you back $2Mil AND it's not an EV. But the point I'm making is you have a lot more options without being jacked for your cash. The English might be "broken" but you will come to know people who are in most cases gracious, kind and legitimate oh and ALWAYS HUMBLE!! Thanks for the content and Thank you for that AWESOME EV Cafe Racer!!! WOW #HeruVision