It's funny, because I see this movement in Xingyi, Tai Chi, and even some harder styles. Been trying to research why it was so universally recognized :)
Hi! 👋 Love your work. In my opinion, I would rather use this technique in grappling. Yes, a non-trained person's full committed punch can be redirected like this, however it's still very difficult, IMO. and risky. This technique looks much more safe and easier to apply in a grappling situation. For example he attacks with a haymaker, you rush in with a close defense, ram him, get his arm and pull him, as he tries to push you and fight you that way, since you're close now. Just an idea, would love to hear your thoughts on this. 🤜🫷
Totally agree with you. These predefined application from the forms were designed to demonstrate a few examples of usage by following the flow and the style’s characteristics in “treating forces”. But depends on the situation, these applications should not be limited. I do like your close-in counter haymaker example.
This is wonderful to see. It helps to see how the final movements of Xiao Baji can be used.
Thanks, Sifu
I think is safer to assume your opponent is always trained and stronger to avoid surprises
It's funny, because I see this movement in Xingyi, Tai Chi, and even some harder styles. Been trying to research why it was so universally recognized :)
这一式我一直是当作扛摔理解的，一手抓臂一手钩腿。
可以的，這裏只是將這是的「退步」放在狀況中。跳打頂肘很適合你「挑扛」的理解
Hi! 👋
Love your work. In my opinion, I would rather use this technique in grappling. Yes, a non-trained person's full committed punch can be redirected like this, however it's still very difficult, IMO. and risky. This technique looks much more safe and easier to apply in a grappling situation. For example he attacks with a haymaker, you rush in with a close defense, ram him, get his arm and pull him, as he tries to push you and fight you that way, since you're close now.
Just an idea, would love to hear your thoughts on this. 🤜🫷
Totally agree with you. These predefined application from the forms were designed to demonstrate a few examples of usage by following the flow and the style’s characteristics in “treating forces”. But depends on the situation, these applications should not be limited. I do like your close-in counter haymaker example.
@@wutan_nj This could be something to explore for another video!
其它就不說了
不過 “國術大部分的招式設計是用來對付沒有訓練的一般人” 要確定捏
我其實只是針對許多現在對武術的實用性抱有誤解的人。其實當然國術很多招式是設計應付「國術式」的攻擊所設，但是許多人看到國術用法後第一時間會聯想到面對拳擊手；「當對方靈活的身法閃躲、出拳迅速收回、連環出拳…」等搏擊狀況。但是往往在街上與人發生爭執、遇歹人搶劫攻擊、學校霸凌等實際狀況下的攻擊防守是與現代擂台格鬥很有出入的，而國術招式的設計通常是設計給這種真實狀況的。畢竟現代格鬥運動只是近五十年演變出來的，而國術則古老。
至於戰場，雙方的士兵格鬥訓練是不會「一來一往」的，而是要在「一防一攻」之內結束對方。像八極、形意等由戰場大槍演變來的拳也會欸有這種直接的作戰思維。
@@wutan_nj這句話危險的地方不是說擂台情境和實戰情境的問題，而是會在奇怪的地方合理化自己的解釋。因為是一般人所以結構奇怪沒有距離感而且不會反擊的話，其實不會有這麼多招式存在的。
即使是拳擊手也不一定侷限在一來一往的形式，比賽中也很常見乘勝追擊幾下把對手解決。此時其表現反而是十分接近國術的連消帶打的。
@@jackdaws.7358 說得好
我非常不同意，國術是設計用來對付沒練過的人這種觀點，我練習傳統國術，我常常跟現代搏擊對打，真的打也不會吃虧，我對打用的每一招一式都是傳統國術的招式，沒有任何現代搏擊的成分，所以傳統國術是真的很強的，可以對抗現代搏擊的，真的要對自己的東西有信心
國術盛行的時候，所謂「對打」或「搏擊」形式都跟現代人所理解的攻防很不一樣。老的武術只為戰場殺敵或抵禦強盜、防身保命用。而現代「格鬥」的訓練目的與要求使得打鬥的攻防方式演變成力量、耐力、與抗打擊力的競賽。
但是這不代表國術不能做調整來應對。
這個影片純粹是解釋招式當初的設計與用法，因為很多人會直接反應「對方的手會收回去」，因為拳擊的打法在現代人的印象就是打擊標準… 而忽略了對方可能想要全力推你、掐你、抓你的許多其他的攻擊方式。
請問可以分享對打影片嗎？
@@lps8966 可follow 我們的IG. TH-cam 頻道只著重在招式用法教學。 IG 不時會登一些Sparring 影片
請問有教學光碟或線上媒體嗎？謝謝
BajiShu.com, 不過是英文教學。但很多不是英語係國家的學員上著上著英文也都ok了
很期待，只是我英文很不好，有中文字幕嗎？謝謝
@@flavichen 前三十幾堂課有中文字幕，有兩位學員我也是每週給中文反饋。之後發現他們好像已經習慣我的英文口吻與專有名詞，字幕也就不需要了
@@wutan_nj 那前半段目前仍有字幕嗎？收費跟上課方式是？謝謝您仔細回答
@@flavichen 目前所有課已客滿，明年春季才有可能開下一班。你可以試試Starters Training Program 入門班，$100 買定正常版的前五堂課，試練。這五堂都有字幕
這部片的中文變多了😄😄
YT 應用影片幾乎都是中文講解、英文字幕啊