@@KevinLeeVlog How about Monkey Steals Peach channel on youtube? He practices Taiji Mantis. At some point he collabed with Jesse Enkamp, maybe Jesse can hook you up?
I'm learning sanda (Chinese kickboxing) and many of the throwing techniques we learn come from shuai jiao, and it's really a highly effective grappling system, I really enjoy training
According to Patrick McCarthy, Tegumi or Okinawa wrestling (the roots of Karate's grappling aspect) is historically linked to Shuai Jiao since Okinawa was heavily influenced by Chinese culture.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 Not surprised with the old trade links. Karate people should look at all the South East Asian and Chinese styles - you often see the exact movements from karate katas being used
In chinese they called this 摔跤 shuai jiao, in japan 柔道 judo, and in the west called wrestling. Almost similar in techniques, just a little differences in small details
@@k.d1524 I don't know what you mean by who is the best but there is no the best martial arts in this world, the best is the martial artist himself in controlling himself and his enemy. If you mean what Silat school I recomend, I'll recomend Silat Gayung Fatani or any Silat Jatuh/Jawi school in Southern Thailand or Northern Malaysia
Not true even though wrestling is a martial art other things that we call martial arts were around long before wrestling yes u can argue all grappling is a form of wrestling but you weren't talking about that
@@Azraerll grappling is growing lately but striking and wrestling is the core for very long time, there were no soft mattress so once you get throw to the ground it's kinda over. Even today you can see countless CCTV where a guy KO other guy (in a bar, on the streets, in schools...) with a punch or a throw, very little grappling/lock in those footages. Grappling is a must nowadays in MMA competition but it's the cherry on top. Wrestling and striking (emphasize on punching) is the core martial arts for thousands of years.
@bongkem2723 now your bringing up striking what does that have to do with your modern wrestling is the core argument? Might as well say boxing is the core of it all U never said how it is the core when mixed martial arts was an event in the first olympic games, which was before modern wrestling all because I grab a person doesn't make it wrestling the throws on the video u can't do in wrestling the street fight videos on youtube shows most people can't fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for sharing the vid and introducing us to this wonderful teacher. I’ve always wanted to learn Shuai Jiao, but never came across a school that teaches it. Can’t wait to see the future vids!
@@KevinLeeVlog nice! Which style/styles you practice? You also train applicable ground techniques? Cause i find there is some groundwork in silat which are a good unorthodox approach to a lot of bjj principles
As a Chinese i can confirm that this is an age-old technique ingrained within our very bloodline, and becomes active the microsecond my parents see my exam results.
These are positions along with some of the concepts being thought is how I teach the body mechanics of the “ginga” position in capoeira. I love how pure principles are repeated throughout martial art styles.
Wonderful video, Kevin. There are so many training uses for old (abandoned😂 belts). As a kid we had to kick into a belt that was held infront of us in a loop. Once in a while the belt would "catch" our foot. We would have to jump around until we figured out that the secret was to turn our leg/foot to escape. I love lessons like this! Useful but also adds to the mysticism a bit too. Lets face it, it is a lot of fun too. Great guest, great messages, thank you!
It would be very interesting to see a person who is well trained in Tai Chi and Shoui Jiao By the way Kevin could you do a video with Tim Cartmell? He mastered several internal martial arts and has a black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu
Thank you very much for your so thoughtful insight and putting this on TH-cam for public display very impressive🐼☯️🕉️📚💪 and komechi stance I've also had opportunity to learn some ideals from as well 🙏
Loved the deep dive into Shuai Jiao's history and techniques. It’s amazing how a combat system that's been around for so long still holds up in modern times.
Yes!!!! This is Why we love Kevin!!!! the school i went to trained wiith Shuai Principles but it was applied to a lot of arm and shoulder break techniques
Super cool 😎 …finally something to do with those older belts… as I’m 3/4th a form away from black belt! #shaolinkungfu #kungfulife #martialartslife gracias sifus!! 💫💚👏
Do you know the cool thing about Shuai Jiao? The fact that it has Kungfu FORMS that are actually EFFECTIVE. That, my friend, is very cool. Man I really want to study this style.
the way he explain keeping the tension is somehow just like how I learn taichi, we keeping the preasure of the contact points I guess many grappling martial arts also has the same principle regarding this
It is said but can you and they provide archeological accuracy? All moves exist in very similar manner (but better) in Capoeira. In fact in the beginning that picture was a really good example of Capoeira’s Calçadeira. Also Cintura Desprezada Bandada com Giro is performed.
I trained Kung Fu at a school, who did Sanda, Tao lu/traditional & Schuai Chiao long ago. Would it be appropriate to label Sanda & Schuai Chiao Kung Fu styles & part of Kung Fu per-se tho?
As a BJJ blackbelt, do you think the Chinese Shuaijiao technics can be used in BJJ takedown system? If so how will you compare them with Judo and Wrestling takedowns? Thanks!
Right said, Masters, back to the roots. Leg motions are less visible at clse distance, peopl lokk horizontallay, on hands,which are more dangerous at first sigt. However the rea threa stasrtws from the body/core and as a source of power and geometry of steps, footwork and the snapping handwork is the cream to it. Many thanks. Best regards, Paul,69
That's very cool. My mom had this down by the time I was 2 1/2. Then she took off her high heel shoe and brought it to a whole nother level. I'd love to see the seminar. That's a lot of power.
Kevin please take some more lessons with Dr. Cheng about 24 forms martial performance of Tai Chi as his explonation is really acceptable for everyone who is interested at the subject🎉
China also has a unique wrestling technique, Shanxi's Nao Yang wrestling, the product of a long battle against the Mongols on the ancient Shanxi border
Shuai Jiao is the most complete grappling martial art I’ve ever seen. I’ve wrestled and dabbled in Judo and BJJ, so I’m at least somewhat informed when I say Shuai Jiao takes the cake, based on what I’ve seen.
When I was younger and I did something bad. My mom would say wait til your dad get's home. Out came the belt and crack against my behind! Same principal, He just timed it just right and positioned his body for maximum pain.
@kevinleevlog You should typically have your back heel down with your body weight on your heels. We know from body mechanics being off your heels causes a massive loss of balance for only a minor increase of power. There are a few times you should purposely be off your heels, but in general it is a bad habit that puts you at a disadvantage.
With this kind of videos it becomes clear that all Chinese martial arts styles and their derivatives have the same theoretical basis. I think that most of the so-called traditional masters need to reset their misconceptions about striking, blocking and kicking. They need to think more about real hand-to-hand combat so that they can really interpret the techniques that are represented in the Tao Lu, even if the movements do not seem like it at first glance. Thank you.😉
Great video. The first time I saw this "belt cracking" exercise was in an old TH-cam clip of Beijing WSL Wing Chun Sifu Wang Zhi Peng demonstrating how he integrates Shuai Jiao into chi sau. He is absolutely ferocious in throwing his student Jai Harmon. Very impressive. Check this link at about 1:55 -2:10. Note the long deep "arrow stance" unlike typical Wing Chun stances (other than in the pole form). Beautiful integration of WC striking and SJ throwing. All good kung fu needs all ranges, like the old saying "Ti da shuai na" or "Kicking, punching, throwing, locking"! th-cam.com/video/4LSzcRCQZEI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ExperienceWingChunandTaijibySifuSergio
Good stuff!!! BTW, Shuai Jiao is not 3000 years old. If you go back to the proginators of the 3 main Shuai Jiao styles ( Wan Baye of Beijing, Cui Xiu Feng of Tianjin and Ping Jingyi of Baoding). Their wrestling is directly descended from the wrestling of the Shan Pu Ying which is Mongol- Manchurian or in the Qing era "Buku". Yes China has many folk wrestling, but it is not connected to Shuai Jiao as many kung fu people AND Shuai Jiao people claim.
Northern nomadic wrestling styles date back to before the Mongols and tartars to the xiongnu and even earlier so 3000 years is not unrealistic, it's a pretty conservative estimate. Point taken on the lack of Chinese origin
@@KingoftheJianglYup. I mean both Mongolian and Manchurian wrestling came from Khitanese wrestling, so yes asiatic nomadic wrestling is 3000 years old. But if you really trace back the wrestling origins of Shuai Jiao, you would literally end up going back to wrestling tradtitions of the nomads since the very groups of people who are in the Shan Pu Ying are mostly Mongols and Manchurians who have their own wrestling culture and the birthplace of Shuai Jiao, Beijing, is literally the Manchu's home. But many people missed this point regarding the origins of Shuai Jiao.
Thank you all for watching! What would you like to see next?
I would love to see more kungfu styles like Bajiquan, Praying mantis, White crane etc. Keep up the great videos Kevin
@@projectkara-wt4isanyone you know that’s great at Praying Mantis?
@@KevinLeeVlogI know he lives in Australia, but i recommend "monkey steals Peach" his content is awesome
@@KevinLeeVlog How about Monkey Steals Peach channel on youtube? He practices Taiji Mantis. At some point he collabed with Jesse Enkamp, maybe Jesse can hook you up?
@KevinLeeVlog How about Kung Fu San Soo?
Legend says that this Chinese technique was created after someone’s son got an A- in 1200 A.D
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Hahaha 😂
Good one @farting4348 haha. Somehow I find this hilarious, yet dauntingly traumatizing at the same time. Oh, the dichotomy!
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I'm learning sanda (Chinese kickboxing) and many of the throwing techniques we learn come from shuai jiao, and it's really a highly effective grappling system, I really enjoy training
It’s a part of kung fu strictly covering fighting
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you learn this technique immediately after becoming a parent
There is Kung Fu in everything, even parenting.
@@brianquint6126 Everybody is Kung-Fu parentiiing 🎶
Well you used to anyway...
@@Flokoli1Oh great, now I have that song in my head. 😂😂😂
Neil Magny's burner account !?!
Thank you for putting the work in Kevin! Good kung fu needs more exposure.
Thank you!!
Facts
"not optimal"...this dude is amazing, and that answer has wisdom that i will likely spend a long time trying to fully understand
Thank you so much!!
You can see the muscles he's built up in his arms. It good strong core, balance and speed with momentum.
The double hand thrust then the throw are in Bassai dai shotokan karate kata...it's great when these things link up - they have the same roots
According to Patrick McCarthy, Tegumi or Okinawa wrestling (the roots of Karate's grappling aspect) is historically linked to Shuai Jiao since Okinawa was heavily influenced by Chinese culture.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 Not surprised with the old trade links. Karate people should look at all the South East Asian and Chinese styles - you often see the exact movements from karate katas being used
It's so nice to see that a lot of techniques of different fighting styles stem from the same roots. Amazing class! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥋👊🏻
When I first saw this I thought it was a way to train punches with resistance to avoid overextended the elbow, but this is pretty cool.
I see this as bjj competition training to keep your arms from straining out.
In chinese they called this 摔跤 shuai jiao, in japan 柔道 judo, and in the west called wrestling. Almost similar in techniques, just a little differences in small details
In india we called it ghusti
In Africa laambe
in Malaysia it's Gomol and Silat Jatuh
@@nagamalaya4232 I wanna learn silat, who is the best
@@k.d1524 I don't know what you mean by who is the best but there is no the best martial arts in this world, the best is the martial artist himself in controlling himself and his enemy. If you mean what Silat school I recomend, I'll recomend Silat Gayung Fatani or any Silat Jatuh/Jawi school in Southern Thailand or Northern Malaysia
WOW - the belt exercises - so practical. I totally didn't know about this. Very cool.
This is great for Judo, I'll definitely be giving this a try.
My mom learned this shit back in The 80s and in the 90s she became a master
Mine used the one handed technique.
@@vmarc4682 😀😀😀
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wrestling is always the core of martial arts, no matter the period and no matter where the art is !!
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Not true even though wrestling is a martial art other things that we call martial arts were around long before wrestling yes u can argue all grappling is a form of wrestling but you weren't talking about that
@@Azraerll grappling is growing lately but striking and wrestling is the core for very long time, there were no soft mattress so once you get throw to the ground it's kinda over. Even today you can see countless CCTV where a guy KO other guy (in a bar, on the streets, in schools...) with a punch or a throw, very little grappling/lock in those footages. Grappling is a must nowadays in MMA competition but it's the cherry on top. Wrestling and striking (emphasize on punching) is the core martial arts for thousands of years.
Fact! wrestling bases martial artes + weapons training
@bongkem2723 now your bringing up striking what does that have to do with your modern wrestling is the core argument? Might as well say boxing is the core of it all U never said how it is the core when mixed martial arts was an event in the first olympic games, which was before modern wrestling all because I grab a person doesn't make it wrestling the throws on the video u can't do in wrestling the street fight videos on youtube shows most people can't fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This connected a lot of dots for me. Great video!
Awesome!!!!
Thanks for sharing the vid and introducing us to this wonderful teacher. I’ve always wanted to learn Shuai Jiao, but never came across a school that teaches it. Can’t wait to see the future vids!
Thank you for watching!
The shifu has massive forearms
Just so cool the many techniques Kev is bringing to us!
Great Demos, Great Body Mechanics Knowledge and Classic Method 👍 Keep making Chinese Grappling Videos.
Your channel will go down in a special part of TH-cam history for sure
More shaui jiau please 🙏. I am completely mind blown.. Thank you for the content
dude this is perfect i've been wondering for years how to train a simple and basic grappling takedown technique but training it solo
Holy cow that was crazy. Wow. I would love to see more from him.
"Using belt as weapon more in Malaysian martial arts instead of belt ,Malaysian use "sarong / linen or scarf it s called 'Silat "❤
Yep! I am a Silat practitioner too!
@@KevinLeeVlog nice! Which style/styles you practice? You also train applicable ground techniques? Cause i find there is some groundwork in silat which are a good unorthodox approach to a lot of bjj principles
sarong is not a scarf
Another name for the scarf he mean is "cindai" or "selendang"
@@_BillyMandalay
As a Chinese i can confirm that this is an age-old technique ingrained within our very bloodline, and becomes active the microsecond my parents see my exam results.
Another eye opening video. Thanks Kevin!
Thank you for watching!!
These are positions along with some of the concepts being thought is how I teach the body mechanics of the “ginga” position in capoeira. I love how pure principles are repeated throughout martial art styles.
Shuai Jiao is the Chinese kung fu wrestling form I took it in Miami years ago loved it like violent judo and original Jiujitsu
I practiced traditional kung fu these explanations are wonderful. Learning so much. Thank you.
Great episode!
Thank you!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Love the way the master explains Chinese War Wrestling exercise
This is golden content. Excellent work.
Wonderful video, Kevin. There are so many training uses for old (abandoned😂 belts). As a kid we had to kick into a belt that was held infront of us in a loop. Once in a while the belt would "catch" our foot. We would have to jump around until we figured out that the secret was to turn our leg/foot to escape. I love lessons like this! Useful but also adds to the mysticism a bit too. Lets face it, it is a lot of fun too. Great guest, great messages, thank you!
Thank you so much!!!!
Sounds less mystic more like your coach turned training into a game to keep the kids healthy was teaching investee
I loved it. Excellent teaching. Excellent teacher. Thank you 😆
It would be very interesting to see a person who is well trained in Tai Chi and Shoui Jiao
By the way Kevin could you do a video with Tim Cartmell?
He mastered several internal martial arts and has a black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu
It is common to know both
This looks like it would be helpful for silat training as well!
Thank you for all these videos.
Finding a real-life coach or teacher is basically impossible as rurally as I live.
great techniques Kevin,,,hope to see another shuai jiao video
So cool Kevin, love your work.
I practice praying mantis, and some of the mechanics could really help me out in the throws
Do you practice chow gar mantis
@@jacobharris954 i know a litte man, but my focus is Tang lang
@@nathanconstantino7441 huh
Thank you very much for your so thoughtful insight and putting this on TH-cam for public display very impressive🐼☯️🕉️📚💪 and komechi stance I've also had opportunity to learn some ideals from as well 🙏
I was told that this is the grandmother of all kung fu.
Great stuff again.
Your presentations are always a pleasure, Kevin.
Thank you!!!
Loved the deep dive into Shuai Jiao's history and techniques. It’s amazing how a combat system that's been around for so long still holds up in modern times.
Yes!!!! This is Why we love Kevin!!!! the school i went to trained wiith Shuai Principles but it was applied to a lot of arm and shoulder break techniques
Kevin excellent interview skills
You repeat and clarify
Super cool 😎 …finally something to do with those older belts… as I’m 3/4th a form away from black belt! #shaolinkungfu #kungfulife #martialartslife gracias sifus!! 💫💚👏
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Do you know the cool thing about Shuai Jiao? The fact that it has Kungfu FORMS that are actually EFFECTIVE. That, my friend, is very cool. Man I really want to study this style.
the way he explain keeping the tension is somehow just like how I learn taichi, we keeping the preasure of the contact points
I guess many grappling martial arts also has the same principle regarding this
It is said but can you and they provide archeological accuracy? All moves exist in very similar manner (but better) in Capoeira. In fact in the beginning that picture was a really good example of Capoeira’s Calçadeira. Also Cintura Desprezada Bandada com Giro is performed.
It would be really interesting to see you experience someone who knows fajin and see your take on it
This was great. 👍
I trained Kung Fu at a school, who did Sanda, Tao lu/traditional & Schuai Chiao long ago. Would it be appropriate to label Sanda & Schuai Chiao Kung Fu styles & part of Kung Fu per-se tho?
As a BJJ blackbelt, do you think the Chinese Shuaijiao technics can be used in BJJ takedown system? If so how will you compare them with Judo and Wrestling takedowns? Thanks!
Yes!!! There are so many things he showed so that would work really well for BJJ practitioners!
Yes it can I know a few shuia chiao students who practice BJJ as well and it’s a great conversation
thank you Sir for that extremely informative video, excellent!
I won’t believe this has any practicality until master Ken puts his approval on it
Great instruction!!!
Right said, Masters, back to the roots. Leg motions are less visible at clse distance, peopl lokk horizontallay, on hands,which are more dangerous at first sigt. However the rea threa stasrtws from the body/core and as a source of power and geometry of steps, footwork and the snapping handwork is the cream to it. Many thanks. Best regards, Paul,69
Interesting video. I give it a 8/10 🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋
That's very cool. My mom had this down by the time I was 2 1/2. Then she took off her high heel shoe and brought it to a whole nother level. I'd love to see the seminar. That's a lot of power.
Thanks so much for sharing its very impressive and powerful 🎉
The strength of the belt movement can felt through the screen
great teacher!!!
He sure is!!
amazing. Thanks for your efforts
What a great instructor
Kevin please take some more lessons with Dr. Cheng about 24 forms martial performance of Tai Chi as his explonation is really acceptable for everyone who is interested at the subject🎉
China also has a unique wrestling technique, Shanxi's Nao Yang wrestling, the product of a long battle against the Mongols on the ancient Shanxi border
@KevinLee, which school of Silat do you practice?
@@SoldierDrew I train under Guro Dan Inosanto. We do Maphilindo and Pencak.
Those images are depicting XinYi Ba from shaolin temple
Very effectiveway to learn osoto gari. Wich is a very good introduction to brazilian jiu jitsu, wich is good for wrestling and mma 😜🙏🏼
Kevin..knife self defense couldn't work on super and wise attacker..saw it on one master kali practitioner..
I’m just wondering what is this style called besides the oldest style of martial arts
@@aurelioruiz1344 it’s written in the description. lol it’s called Shuai Jiao.
@@KevinLeeVlog thank you I didn’t see that lol
Is that Mark Chengs garage?
Yes it is!!
Thanks 🙏🏼
Thank you!!
Shuai Jiao is the most complete grappling martial art I’ve ever seen. I’ve wrestled and dabbled in Judo and BJJ, so I’m at least somewhat informed when I say Shuai Jiao takes the cake, based on what I’ve seen.
Great video
will this work, if I replace the belt with my nunchaku? It looks like it will work, but what do you think?
When I was younger and I did something bad. My mom would say wait til your dad get's home. Out came the belt and crack against my behind! Same principal, He just timed it just right and positioned his body for maximum pain.
Can the effectiveness of a combat system be measured without practical application in modern contexts, and if so, how?
@kevinleevlog You should typically have your back heel down with your body weight on your heels. We know from body mechanics being off your heels causes a massive loss of balance for only a minor increase of power. There are a few times you should purposely be off your heels, but in general it is a bad habit that puts you at a disadvantage.
Very cool Kung Fu system
Shuai Jiao! It predates Luohanquan.
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Wasn't this uploading yesterday
yip, tis unlisted now. They're the same length though, nothing seems changed
Yeah, I noticed a small error so I reload it. 😅
Is this a re upload?
@@jerediahgonzalez2315 Yeah, I noticed a small error so I decided to reload. 😅
With this kind of videos it becomes clear that all Chinese martial arts styles and their derivatives have the same theoretical basis. I think that most of the so-called traditional masters need to reset their misconceptions about striking, blocking and kicking. They need to think more about real hand-to-hand combat so that they can really interpret the techniques that are represented in the Tao Lu, even if the movements do not seem like it at first glance. Thank you.😉
Similar to staff drills.
Can you Do a breakdown of fun siu wong style in ip man movie?
This is great.
It's like Taiji, but explosive.
Love love watching
Great video. The first time I saw this "belt cracking" exercise was in an old TH-cam clip of Beijing WSL Wing Chun Sifu Wang Zhi Peng demonstrating how he integrates Shuai Jiao into chi sau. He is absolutely ferocious in throwing his student Jai Harmon. Very impressive. Check this link at about 1:55 -2:10. Note the long deep "arrow stance" unlike typical Wing Chun stances (other than in the pole form). Beautiful integration of WC striking and SJ throwing. All good kung fu needs all ranges, like the old saying "Ti da shuai na" or "Kicking, punching, throwing, locking"! th-cam.com/video/4LSzcRCQZEI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ExperienceWingChunandTaijibySifuSergio
Every Chinese martial art should start with basic familiarity with shuai jiao. Do that before you learn forms. That would make everyone 100% better
What name of that system... I'm curious about it exist also in Netherlands 😊 ;)
@@mieszkowisniewski835 Shuai Jiao!
I don't know about the Netherlands, but I know here in the USA, there is a branch of Chang Dongsheng Shuai Jiao that exists in Ohio.
@@Rainbow_Oracle I check this and they have
Good stuff!!! BTW, Shuai Jiao is not 3000 years old. If you go back to the proginators of the 3 main Shuai Jiao styles ( Wan Baye of Beijing, Cui Xiu Feng of Tianjin and Ping Jingyi of Baoding). Their wrestling is directly descended from the wrestling of the Shan Pu Ying which is Mongol- Manchurian or in the Qing era "Buku". Yes China has many folk wrestling, but it is not connected to Shuai Jiao as many kung fu people AND Shuai Jiao people claim.
Northern nomadic wrestling styles date back to before the Mongols and tartars to the xiongnu and even earlier so 3000 years is not unrealistic, it's a pretty conservative estimate. Point taken on the lack of Chinese origin
@@KingoftheJianglYup. I mean both Mongolian and Manchurian wrestling came from Khitanese wrestling, so yes asiatic nomadic wrestling is 3000 years old. But if you really trace back the wrestling origins of Shuai Jiao, you would literally end up going back to wrestling tradtitions of the nomads since the very groups of people who are in the Shan Pu Ying are mostly Mongols and Manchurians who have their own wrestling culture and the birthplace of Shuai Jiao, Beijing, is literally the Manchu's home. But many people missed this point regarding the origins of Shuai Jiao.
Awesome!!! :)
Thanks! 😄
I wonder how Tai Chi would fare against Shuai Jiao.
They are taught together some times, you can see the movements in taiji
What is this art called?
@@joss1578 Shuai Jiao!
@@KevinLeeVlog Thanks!
Reminds me of the Manriki Gusari!
Pretty Interesting.
Yep!!
Oh, wow!