Air Compressors Explained and Tested
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2015
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In this episode I go over Air compressors and which is the best for re spraying a whole car.
Here is the link to convert CFM to LPM vgautopaints.com.au/2013-08-28... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Look - I didn't learn anything about air compressors, but what I did lean was I can practice my painting technique with water. Sounds like "Yeah, you should have know that" , but no, I didn't. Cheers - a thumbs up for you.
Pete looks like he's secretly saying - "this is bullshit, I hate my job... I hate these questions..) Pete is not having it today.
Hey mate, planning on painting my ute with raptor bed liner, you think this can push a liquid with that consistency? Really appreciate your video
Dave I notice u said that a w400 BA keeps up with your 205l/m compressor. Was it using a 1.2 tip as the 1.3 is claimed to use 270-280/min??
I have a FAD of 244/m and was wondering if it would be sufficient for a 1.3 tip W400 BA
I do airbrushed artwork with a smalk compressor but will a 24 ltr compressor be ok for lacquering please ? I do small stuff like bike tanks but am doing a vw campervan at moment ?
Wow- cleared up a heap of myths for me including needing a 200+ litre tank to fully spray cars which is a relief because I bought a 3 hp 50 litre 323l/minute FAD compressor today. The first thing I noticed over my old 2.5 hp 40 litre 125 l/min direct drive unit was when the compressor kicks in the new one holds the pressure the whole time and only takes a few seconds to catch up after finishing. Whereas the old one would lose pressure and then take 2 minutes to refill.
I was really worried I'd bought one with a too small tank but this segment cleared it up for me- very relieved.
Thanks!
Great to see some quality Aussie paint videos btw!
Hey it's been two weeks. Have you properly sprayed with this new comp? Any conclusions? I imagine a 50L regardless of output would pretty much be fully running while spraying a hood or roof on a car? I'm looking into getting a comp and gun right now for my R33 project and my budget at most would allow a 50L unit and the cheapest gun I could get.
@@Kryndon64 It depends on what the FAD is. Free air delivery is more important than tank size. If it's around 200 or below it might struggle. 323 l/m does it easily. I'd recommend belt drive too. Mine runs off 15 Amp and cost about $900 AUD. I had a cheap 40 litre one FAD 125 l/m that I tossed for the new one and there was no way known that would cope with even painting the bottom of a door. Plus you need not only a decent compressor, might get away with a cheap gun but you also need to stop moisture getting into the paint, so need at least one decent water trap. A weaker compressor will also make more heat which will add to moisture in the air. . Another thing to consider is tank pressure. alot of the cheaper ones operate at 110 psi whereas the better ones are 145 so in effect you have more air for a given size and less buffer in which for the compressor to stay ahead of. A 200 litre tank might give you 4 times as long over the 50 litre before it kicks in but then it needs longer to fill up again too after you've stopped.
@@AndyPutt1 What compressor did you get? Like what's the brand/model?
@@Kryndon64 Yeah sprayed with it and it's great. No problems whatsoever painting a car. If you had a 200 litre tank it would take 4 times as long to kick in but it would also take 4 times long to fill. It's not like in order to spray you need a compressor that won't kick in while you are spraying in order for it to work. That might be true for a 120 l/m FAD compressor, because it can't supply enough air but not with a 320 FAD unit handles it fine it would be well under a 50% duty cycle.
Being a beginner with painting I found out my compressors valve outlet on the tank was restricting air flow so I put a ball valve type and it worked a lot better, I would buy one as large as possible due to the more they run the hotter they get thus more moisture build up, I worked in a new furniture upholstery business, main compressor stuffed up so they hired a compressor with a VW motor which couldn't cope and motor blew up, we had to get one with a diesel engine just to run 5 staple guns, 2 nail guns and seldom spray booth work.
Hi Dave. I want to progress from 1K can painting to 2K gun painting, but just start off with doing touch-up work on scratched or damaged panels. I also want to upgrade my air compressor, and get something portable I can also use for detailing and drying. What is the minimum FAD you would recommend for small paint repair jobs? Could I get away with 100L/min, for example?
What is the best for home use and to put in a shop for auto painting.
Thanks for the info Dave
Hey man Do you think this guns fed by air compressor better than
electric spray guns I want to paint PVC windows some kitchen cabinets
doors etc. I am thinking about getting those small compressor 230V and
an air gun.. Thank you for your advice All the best Arthur from Glasgow
Well done! Thank you very much for the info
Wats the best compressor for a hood only ?
Great paint job
Hi. What air hose did you use? 3/8”?
What equipment needed for Spray painting a fence?
Looking at the compressors on your site, would the Ross 2.5HP Air Compressor (36 litre tank, Free air delivery 134 litres/min) be sufficient for painting motorcycle tanks/fenders?
thechaptermaster sure will mate. Perfect for that.
Thanks a lot for help ..much appreciated
What's the name of the music at credits?
thanks from chicago illinois. i have a craftsman compressor 6hp 11.9 cfm 33 gallon so i guess itll be just fine. i really appreciate all the info.
I’ve done overalls with 21 gal. Issue is you’ll always get too much moisture cause the thing running too much. If you attach I think several line dryers u should be fine. I think. That’s an experiment i think I’m going to do
Ty for making this!
you're spraying with water... i want to spray parts of a car with raptor liner... could I use a 6L oil-less compressor for the job?
Hi, what kind of compressor would you recommend? I'm not going for a whole car just some mods (sanding and painting).
Thanks
Juane Garre Hey mate. If your sanding you will need the biggest compressor you can afford. If just painting 115 lpm air delivery is ok for small things.
is this okay for a few panels/bumper/fender painting? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UHNM1R0/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
finally! but too late i already bought a compressor :D but still thank you for posting this
Aren't you supposed to stop spraying while the compressor refills?
Could i spray paint with a 1.8 hp 20 gallon tank. 5.0 SCFM at 40 PSI and 4.0 SCFM at 90 PSI
No you cannot
can i paint half a car with a 3gallon compressor 1.0 hp 3.0 at 40psi and 2.0 at 90psi?? and with the side qs> with a hvlp or lvhp?
3 Gallon and not very powerful.....it can be done (but you may have trouble dialing in the gun) but you will have to constantly wait for the pressure to rebuild. Get a LVHP gun and maybe see if you can score an expansion tank. That is way small and low HP as well. I would say 1.5 HP, 6 Gallon (bigger the better) as a bare minimum to run a gun. 30 Gallon 2 HP ideal.
You can actually kill the compressor or shorten the life of it because of the size, duty cycle, and power. It will be running almost constantly if not constantly.
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the gun video. I am waiting for my 240L/Min 50L compressor and a Anest Ivata Impact AZ3 HTE2 (AirGunsa) 1.3 mm. Should give me a decent result for small panel jobs, I reckon... :) Much love for your channel!
Great channel, you're a very nice talker. Just a ProTip, get a Lapel Microphone to get ride of the ambient noise :)
Thanks brotha
safety tip.. never wrap your hand around a spinning chrome socket! if their is a loose flaking off bit of chrome it will cut your hand the fuck up.
on a positive note i have just found your vids and am liking them alot :) very helpfull
What affordable compressor would you refer me to for a Husky HVLP spray gun? And what specs do the compressors need to be to function properly with the spray gun. Thanks
Would this work?
www.houzz.com/product/61634336-ultra-quiet-and-oil-free-10-hp-55-gal-steel-tank-air-compressor-industrial-outdoor-power-equipment?redirect=-1&m_refid=Bing_PLA_HZ_61634336&msclkid=25cb05ba3122174ea8c55f6c26638b68
GreyC5
get the husky 20 gal.. it’s around $230-240
Marak Lia www.amazon.com/Husky-Gal-Quiet-Portable-Compressor/dp/B01NAZ6FIH#
Marak Lia is this the one you're talking about?
GreyC5
Yep that’s it.. but don’t get it on Amazon. The Home Depot has them for $230
That motor larger than the tank. Nice video
I have a Husky 30 gal 175psi compressor, it says 6.8 SCFM at 40 PSI; 5.1 SCFM at 90 PSI. My question is , Do you think this is enough to paint properly. I have a GTI pro and a few ANI F150 guns from Spraygunsdirect. just don't want too many issues. Do you think I"ll be okay to spray a suv truck
steven m yes
@@cesarchavez507 thank you
nice
What size air hose works best?
Aaron Ritzenthaler we use 10mm but if you painting hvlp go bigger.
your error is that shop told you a value for 200liter/min free air delivery in output, and you bought a compressor with intake 200l/min
Tq
I'm going to paint c comer panel will a 3 gallon compressor work
lou starnley no will come bloching will lose pressure .whan paintin its inportant u maintain pressure
Are the guns LVLP?
He said they are conventional
How many litres is the tank
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I have a 21 gallon 175 hp air compressor could it work?
175 hp? You funny man
And 21 gallon is not gonna be bog enough, your compressor motor will run all the time. It should be a tank doubble that size atleast to paint a full car.
keemoify 21gal is enough, you don’t need to paint whole car one time. You can paint each panel one by one right. So you don’t need big air compressor,just waste your time.
I got a 426 Hemi with 450 h.p.do you think that would power your compressor?
I have big container 150 l ,and 50l in to the air compressor ,and 205l/min ,and i can painting plastics scooters,fuel tank,maybye i can with this accesories paint two doors in all time ,without break :)
RP Gun ,and 250l/min
I heared that one model of guns Devilbiss take 205 l/min (SLG?)
Where can I find a compressor just like that in the US?
Anwar Moss Craigslist is the best way to find one for cheap
what compressor size is ?? and what hp??
The small one i would guess about 24 liters,maybe 50 liters. 2.75 hp
And the larger one is about 2-300 liters. 4-6 hp.
LVLP master race.
from usa..can someone tell me what a bar is ..2 bar??
as I understand it, 1 bar is normal atmosphere pressure, so around 14 psi depending on where you live. So 2 bar would be around 28 psi.
+Merlin Zener thanks. good to kno
A bar is a bit less than an atm actually. If you ever need to convert just type it into Google, like "14 psi to bar"
"well just see how much we can use it before the compressor kicks on" pulls for 1 second, compressor starts immediatelly.... hrmmmmmmm
Thought the same thing
Yes I noticed that to, but he didn't even mention it 🤔
2:54 Look at the size of that compressor!!!
I been looking at a duel stacked Compressor Oil feed 5 Gal. 125 Max PSI 5.1 CFM @ 40 PSi for $130.00 CDN for Bottom of my Truck fender and a few dings fills on my door I should be ok with that I don't see someone with a full mix paint using a Portable for complete jobs on a day in day out basis If i had a shop i would shop around used if need be ..Auctions Local flyer for sale ad's and the internet for my area
how did it work out for you? was it sufficient to pay without losing air? I tend to do mobile work and I paint two-four cars a day but usually just a bumper or a panel under 5 mins of painting. Is that okay with 6 gallon pancake compressor on amazon? 150psi
I went with a Portable 20 gal oil-Free Air Compressor, 2-hp Perfect for 1 side of car painting and the tank refills with in 5 -8 mins so you have time to refill your pot and still have time for flash and for me it was cheap
are you doing business at home or is it for a shop? I tend to do mobile but I want to be stationary maybe at home in my car port or garage
I do work at home However I drive a custom 05' Chevy blazer Which can be used as a hauler for the compressor say to a friends house for roofing or fence, mech work. I just finshed a patio of wood skid furnture (couches x2, Propane fire table and a corner table (round cable wire reel from construction site "free") The couches have Burlap Coffee bean bags as cushions with Product of Peru Cafe logo on them ...very rustic looking ...Perfect for a nail gun it would take 5 to 10 mins each piece
www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-20-gallon-oil-free-air-compressor-2-hp-1995704p.html#srp
Why doesn't anybody ever mention the hose diameter
45 PSI? That seems a bit high since you can use 29 PSI comfortably
New Zealand accent?
slow way to wash ya car lol
One of the youtuber said on a previous video that "I am not comfortable with this guy.'' hehehehe
wattles music 10:36
is that 2 pac water?
Yeah, Hennessey..
PRESHA!
is not the arrow but the Indian it can be used but it takes more skill and time, hell i can air brush a hole car with a pancake compressor is about being smart and divide the car, and make sure you mix is 100% the same every time, so dont use the cups use a digital scale to measure the paint mix
hey, can i get this video in english?
did some one curse you on 6:39 ? :)
Hahahaha
Test it with paint not water so we can actually tell if 200 is enough
9:20 , don't agree , you don't need a "much" bigger compressor , almost the double size , to be used with an HVLP ( rather those used with a LVLP , which you've called conventional gun ? that's not either ) . Conventional are those that implies High Volume . 9:28 " High volume is a bit different than ...........Low Pressure ..(???) , you're slipping all over the place ! You have a paint garage/business but you're not well prepared about technical details .
FAIS.N
I have a 400l/min air compressor with 50L tank and it fucking blew the head-gasket trying to blow dust out of my computers. lol
200 liters per minute in U.S is 52.83 gallons. thats not a 52 gallon tank.
Marquis Reese that's the air delivery the motor puts out not what it holds
6:37 "Dave's a homo"
You should never ever spray water on your vehicle from the bottom up .
That tank look like 10 gallon tank
It doesnt say in my user manual that motor has to rest 30% of the time.. hah
275HP!!!!
Lol,sprays water fine,lol
This guy doesnt respond to questions does he?
$170 for a motor guard filter? Those are $60 in the US lol
The thumbnail is concerning
Man you should really wear a respirator or mask 😷
I was using tap water. 👍
@@customspraymods
I know.. just trying to be funny.
PEOPLE, stop kidding yourselves, you want to paint cars you need a big ass stationary compressor like the one he has in his shop, this guy just wanted a joy ride knowing that little piece of shit compressor is going to be humming all day long cause it cant produce enough air, so don't be cheap and shell out $1500 -2000 dlls for a big compressor.
the little compressor in the video is insufficient for a hvlp gun . look on the chart the gun comes with . most hvlp guns require a compressor that's cappible of producing 16 cfm @ 40-60 psi constant . that thing won't even come close . a proper compressor will run you about a $1000 . and that's barely meeting the minimum requirements of the gun. please do more accurate research before putting inaccurate info out there for people to see. although people shouldn't use you tube as a primary source of information.
I didnt say that compressor would work with HVLP. I mention that you would need a compressor double the size for HVLP at about 9:30.
DId you watch the video with the sound off? He clearly stated that it would NOT run the HVLP gun.
Someone needs to pay better attention before being a smart arse..
thomasjbuckner it is enough for small jobs.
customspraymods Could that size compressor run an Hvlp gun for small jobs such as furniture for very small periods of time? Or just better off getting a bigger compressor?