2014+ Cadillac CTS Modifications Part 3: Performance Mods
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video cover performance mods for the 3rd gen (2014+) Cadillac CTS. Ok... most of the engine stuff relates to the VSport with the twin turbo V6, but a lof of the video applies to all CTS's including the CTS-V.
Modifications:
1. Lowering Springs. Springs and coilovers are available. Coilovers are good for all CTS models I believe. CTS-V lowering springs are proven on the VSport, but not sure how it handles the lighter 2.0 engines. Renick performance sells Swift springs and they are known to be a great performing spring. Weapon X springs are unknown brand but users are happy with them and they are cheaper than the swift springs. The drop looks similar among both. If you really want to go low, you want to get coilovers. However, if you have magride, you will need sensors to spoof the magride system so you don't get error codes. Always check with your retailers to see if they have had customers test on your your model.
Renick Performance-
CKS Coilovers: tinyurl.com/y8cnul5q
Swift Springs: tinyurl.com/yx2oeusb
WeaponX: tinyurl.com/yd7o9mpp
2. Brake upgrade: From my research, all CTS models can upgrade brakes to higher CTS models, including CTS-V or ATS-V.
Stage 1: Rear brembo upgrade from ATS-V or Camaro SS - about $700
Stage 2: Add ATS-V front brake parts - add about $1400
Stage 3: Do CTS-V brakes all around - about $2600
See my document outlining brake parts and FAQ: tinyurl.com/yd9xd9uj
Upgrade your normal brakes with better pads. Ceramic pads are great for quiet and no-dust, but if you want something that can handle autox or occasional track abuse - consider Hawk HP Plus pads. For dedicated track use check out HAWK track pads, G-Loc or PFC brakes.
A lot of street users like Powerstop. My brake rotors are Stoptech. Check out my other video on brake upgrades. • Front Brembo Brake Rot...
3. Tires:
My tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE71R. Front: 255/35/19 Rear: 265/35/19 (trying to keep front and rear balanced, but you can go bigger)
Other recommended tires:
Michilen Pilot Sport 4S (summer only) or AS for all season
Continental Extreme Contact DW. I've hit 1.9 60' launches on these tires in run flat form.
4. Sway bars - VSports can take ATS-V sway bars. A believe all CTS's can take a rear ATS-V or CTS-V sway bar (they are the same). The CTS tends to understeer a bit so rear sway bar is all that's necessary, but Renick Performance ATS-V sway bar package has bigger bars over stock PLUS the rear is bigger than the front. The issues with other CTS models is I believe the front sway bars may be a different shape to accomodate the different engines. The 3.6 should be fine, but not sure about the 2.0.
Renick bars: tinyurl.com/yctmmb8l
Hard Race ATS-V Sway Bars: tinyurl.com/y3q86gbj
Not listed on their site, contact for pricing and ordering
OEM CTS-V/ATS-V sway bar: Order from 404parts.com - Part #84008631
See my other video on installing a rear sway bar: • Sway Bar Upgrade: Cadi...
5. Alignment: Should be able to get 1.7-1.8 degrees depending on rims and tires. More camber results in less understeer. However your wheels will tuck under the fender and some people don't like how that looks. That's why I run wheel spacers.
Vorshlag Camber Kits - not out yet
6. Exhaust work:
I was running Renick Performance ATS-V downpipes. They required welding to attach to CTS VSport exhaust. Those specific pipes are no longer available. Trifecta had resonated DP's but they were only prototypes and no longer available. This mod is a waste of money in my opinion.
Magnaflow or Gibson mufflers. Corsa or GM Axle back. Some people complain that the Corsa is too loud and some drone, but when you add quad tips the sound is better.
Corsa for 3.6 and VSport: amzn.to/3aj5WMR
GM performance for VSport: tinyurl.com/ycmmxlpn
My dual resonators: No longer available
My exhaust tips: Search ebay for: Quad exhaust tip 2.5 3.5 for Infiniti Q60 Q70 Q50 M35 M45 FX37 FX45 G25 G37 FX50
7. Intake: This is another expensive mod for little return.
Check out the ZZP intake: zzperformance.com/products/zz...
My intake - I don't have a complete how to but I have a video on how to make small modifications to your stock intake: • ZZP Intake Install | C...
8. Trifecta tune: The only tune known to tune the TCU as well. Don't even bother getting a custom tune. I promise, no matter how experienced your local tuner is with crazy amazing cars, it's unlikely they will be able to tune the VSport. If they can, it probably won't be as easy, cheap, and consistent as Trifecta. www.trifectaperformance.com
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Hey everyone! It’s been a year since this video was made and a lot has changed!! It turns out there is power to be gained form downpipes and the intake we are still on the fence about. The good news is Justin Schmidt of Schmidty tuning has taken the VSport to another level with his custom tuning and now E85 blend tunes. Your VSport can be about as fast as a CTS-V3 with 93 pump gas or run 10s quarter miles on upgraded fueling and turbos from the ATS-V (maybe without - we will see!).
I’m glad there some one like you still giving out information about the vsport since no one really know about the car as much. Appreciate it
Can we get an update of things that have changed since this you made this vid. Thanks
Not many changes since this post a year ago. No big records broken but people finding the best combination of fuel mods to push the most E85. At this time there ATS-V turbos are the best deal for power after tuning. Other turbos like TurboBay aren’t necessarily better
Can we get a 2024 update video I just got a 2014 cts v sport I'm trying to get alot more power out of it then 420 hp😂 I bought it at auction for almost nothing at the time I thought I had a V8 never knew about the v sport until I got it home and started it and said WTF this doesn't sound right😂😂😂😂 and finally read the engine cover and realized it said twin turbo it can't be this is supercharged so anyway now I'm stuck with something I didn't really want trying to find More power😎 but nothing on TH-cam really about it.
Oh wow I’m sorry for the confusion! You will have this car running faster than a CTS-V in no time. Here’s what you do
In order of priority:
Tune by Schmidty tuning
Downpipes
E85 sensor and tuning updated to allow a blend of E85.
Skip the intake, skip blow off valves.
Want more? - upgrade fuel system and then maybe upgrade to ATS-V turbos if you want to go big.
First off, I love your videos man!! You're one of the reasons why I will be buying a low mile for the year, fully loaded 2016-2018 CTS V-Sport now that my insurance totaled my modded '15 Infiniti Q50 3.7 Premium RWD after hitting a large deer at 55 mph. It's not a deal breaker, but I am surprised to hear that a forced induction motor making 420 HP @ the crank doesn't respond well to mods? F/I engines usually respond to mods much better than N/A motors. I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison lol, but before Procharging my old naturally aspirated 2003 C5 Corvette Z06 in 2005, on a hot summer day, my Z06 picked up over 50 HP at the wheels with a Vararam CAI, LG Pro 1-7/8" LT Headers with a 3" Metal Matrix HF Catted X-Pipe, and a custom Dyno Tune when it was bone stock. I have friends who supercharged their 328 HP Infiniti Q50 3.7 like mine, plus added many other mods and they have been daily driving/ racing their Q50's with over 500 HP at the crank on their stock bottom ends with no issues other than upgrading to the same Level 10 bulletproof 7 speed auto trans my Q50 had. Mine didn't need it making just over 400 HP @ the flywheel with my mods, but I got a great deal on a used Level 10. I planned on supercharging my Q50 before hitting the deer. I love the CTS V-Sport... Especially the 2016 because I want an aftermarket quad tip exhaust system like your V-Sport. Yous looks and sounds incredible!!!! Keep up the good work! As soon as I find and buy a fully loaded in the exact year, color and mileage CTS V-Sport, I will start making videos of the car and let you know. Thanks again! Sorry for the long comment, by the way.
-Chris
Great videos! Amazing car. I love what you’ve done to it. I have a ‘14 vsport and it’s definitely my favorite car of all that I’ve owned over the years. Looking now for an ultra-low mileage ‘18 or ‘19 to replace it. It’s the ultimate sleeper.
I was considering a cts v sport. But I really really have always wanted an ats. The v sport was only few thousand more then the ats I just bought. But I’m so happy and I really think I made the right choice. So I’m now in the process of making my ats in to my interpretation of if Cadillac made an ats v sport.
I've got the Conti Extreme sports and like them- good grip and civilized. They're also pretty cheap. Obviously not runflats, so I've got an inflation and patch kit in the trunk. As it is, it's still snowing today and I haven't put them back on yet.
good vid
Nice job Danial. I watched the whole thing and I don't own the V sport anymore.
Thanks Billy!
Nice touch with the subscribe and like swiping to on the cue
PRviewsvlogs thanks man
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Great video! Since you seem to be a SME on the platform, whats the widest wheel/tire combo you can run on the Vsport platform? Is it the same wheelwells as the CTS-V?
The front fenders are slightly narrower than a V. So putting V tires and wheels up front may result in some rubbing.
Can’t say exactly what fits where as you may know Offset makes all the difference. D3 once proclaimed with the right offset (one probably custom) they fit 305 rears. I think the larger rears I see may have been up to 10.5-11” rim and 295s. Wider than 9” up front is tough to find too with more than 265.
Great video Danial! Is there a reason why alignment should be 1.7~? Just for understeer? I don't think they've done that to mine in any of my alignments but I'm replacing both control arms, so I'll need another one. Thank you (edit also, the same seller we used for our infinity exhaust tips now has a listing labeled under VSport as well)
JD I just do it for better handling in autox. It’s fine for spirited driving. Even track days. That’s funny about the seller!
Great video as always. Do you remember the DA on that run?
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Excellent video ! btw, what are the specs or camaro trim from the race at the end of the video? it was your tuned V sport?
That was a Z06 Corvette! Probably stock. Yes I was tuned.
Thanks for the vid as always great work! I really want the tune but I bought my VSport used and got an extended warranty, if something were to happen to my engine can I erase any sign of the tune?
Just bought a vsport myself. Looking into an extended warranty. GM wants 7500 for 5 years or 60k miles! May go Route 66. I’ve had them in the past with our BMW and never had any issues. Cost for them is 2500 for 6 years or 100k miles. Not to
Shabby. I’m located in so cal if that matters any for rate comparisons
Trifecta claims their tune isn’t visible but after an engine or transmission failure the car will be checked for signs of after market tune. We don’t know but suspect they could find something. Installing and removing a trifecta tune is so easy that you can do it before taking it to the dealer. They really won’t find anything unless they look. But nodding always involves risks of partial warranty loss.
1 question plzzzz… i know car tuning is not good but! For my 2014 xts twin do you recommend me to make little bit tuning on the turbo boost? Cuz man its limited in summer .. i live in gulf and this thing makes me wait to enjoying only in winter
I don’t believe anyone is tuning the XTS VSPORT. But if anyone could do it, it would be Schmidty Tubing.
If you are having issues in the heat, make sure your intercooler coolant is topped up. It’s separate from the engine coolant.
Hey Daniel, would any adjustments need to made for ATS V or Camaro SS calipers to be put my Vsport or will they just bolt up?
Are you taking about rear calipers? You need the rotors to match. The dust shield will need to be trimmed or replaced (replaced involves a lot of work). You may or may not need a new banjo bolt for each. Some people say it’s different others not.
Hey Daniel does the Trifecta Tune work on a 2014 CTS 3.6 AWD Performance
I am also trying to get a more deep sound any recommendations what mod I should go with?
I don’t think they have a tune for that model. I forgot what company does.
On the VSport people have been ditching their mufflers but without the turbos I’m not sure how it would sound
The ATS 2.0T don’t respond well with mods? I also have another question I have a 2.5L ATS 2014 and I was looking into modding it but i don’t know if it react well with mods, so my question is do it?
The 2.0T responds very well. It’s a turbo car. Many ATS 2.0 are running 350-400hp
I recently purchased a 2023 CT4-V, any idea on performance upgrades for the new L3B?
I have not looked into it! However, with the new ECU architecture, there aren’t any tunes yet. However, people are using a piggyback system called JB4 Blackwings. Look into it and see if it’s useful for your engine. Just like the other Cadillacs it’s unlikely to make any extra power without a tune as the computer sets specific torque limits in the programming.
I don't know if somebody already asked this question but I don't feel like going through it all the comments right now but I was going to ask you what brand of resonators did you install and how much did you pay for them each cuz that's what I need to do right there. And part # please. Ty.
Resonators were a custom setup by Renick performance. I don’t think he offers them anymore. They are like 16-18” or something
How do you feel about the trifecta tune I’m abouta buy the tune is it worth the price tag??? Or is there any other better tune for the price or lower price point???
There’s only two tunes to choose from. Trifecta or Schmidty. Trifecta is cheaper and simpler to install. Schmidty costs more because you need to buy software and pay for his services. But you will get a lot more power and options to gain more power as you change mods. Trifectas best price is usually a Black Friday sale. Other than that Schmidty tune will be a couple hundred more than Trifectas regular pricing.
Can you turbo charge the stock 2014+ 3.6 engines? I mean can you add a turbo into the regular 2014+ 3.6?
I see some supercharger kits for the older models but what about running low boost under 7psi on these newer models, Can they handle it with the stock engine and tuning? They seem to be solid engines
I haven’t heard of it but many things are possible. Not sure if there’s room for traditional turbos but if you aren’t making a lot of boost I like the SC idea best myself. Have you checked with Camaro guys? Has anyone TC’d?
You can add boost to any car. It’s just a matter of money. But if you add turbos you need to upgrade your internals, forged parts only!! Or you’ll blow the motor…
Does any one know if the weapon x lowering springs for the 2016 cts v fit the 2015 cts base sedan also?
Yes. However recently a friend bought them and put on his 3.6 AWD. He felt the drop up front wasn’t enough and found the front end bouncy. Haven’t had any complaints from VSport owners
Just wanted to is the resonators a good upgrade for a normal 3.6?
Sultan Alhosani good question! I think it would do the same. Put your exhaust somewhere between stock and aftermarket mufflers
Ignore the last comment I did on your other video. I’ve found this one.
I have the Thornton chip tuning OBD2 chip. I noticed an increase of hp and better fuel mileage. Can the Trivecta tune work in association with the performance chip I mentioned?
Oh by the way , I have a 14 cts coupe, still has the 2nd gen appearance unlike the sedans that have the 3rd gen body.
I love the 2nd coupe. I think it was born to be classic. I get comments all the time. This car has the perfect canvas to do almost anything with and easily can have that bad ass look.
Hi and thanks for watching! Not much of what my videos cover relates to the previous generation that you have since a lot has changed. 2014 was an overlap year for the 2nd and 3rd Gen CTS.
I haven’t looked at what Trifecta has available for your model but I can tell you that the Thorton chip is giving you false feelings and does nothing for the car. If anything throttle response is different and can make you feel like the car is faster because every bit of pedal you apply it amplifies but still can’t give you more than 100%.
How do I get one of these Lf3 engines to Aus I would love to swap out my Ly7 and step up in my SV6 Commodore!!!
I wish I knew man! Either way I would personally just get an LS engine. Easier to tune and more support
I have a 2017 Cadillac CTS 6 cyl AWD and I want to upgrade the exhaust and performance but I can’t find anything for it, I only see stuff for CTS V
Get some good magnaflow mufflers or something. You don’t have to get a specially made exhaust kit.
There’s not a lot of horsepower to be found on your NA engine unfortunately but I thought Trifecta had a small tune.
@@JetFuelOnly do you have a part number for those magnaflow mufflers? Appreciate the response 🙏🏼
I believe some people have been happy with 11236
Can you do the Trifecta tune yourself or do you need a shop to do it?
Check out my latest video for all the info!
I have a 2014 XTS VSPORT I wanna do a performance intake but I cant find any kits or how to vids, any advice?
There are none unfortunately. It won’t do any good without at tune anyway and I will likely be worse without a tune. I’m not sure if Schmidty tuning is doing XTS
@@JetFuelOnly Yea I knidof figured I'm more interested in the extra turbo noise. I might just have to custom make one.
Wht should I do to my 2007 cts 2.8L far as engine upgrades
That is outside of my wheelhouse unfortunately! Wish I could help but I know pretty much nothing about them except what they look like.
Does the lf3 super charger fit on a 3.6 llt from 2011
The Lf3 is not supercharged it’s turbocharged - and nothing useful can be used on the 2011. Sorry.
Bro what kind of wing do you have on your car and were can I find it?
That’s the Gm spoiler. 404parts.com/products/blade-spoiler-kit
So if the ECU pulls power back using the waste gate or throttle position, can't you just get a TPS mod that imitates your exact throttle position (like a cable), then just control your boost with a manual boost controller? Its probably worth customizing the headers to make 1 un-equal and then running the dump off of that. 1 un-equal runner would give it the 350z sound.
No, the ECU is smarter than that, it has many pathways to control the parameters. Also, no headers on a turbo car. :)
@@JetFuelOnlyand who wants a car to sound like a 350z? 😂😂😂
Can I attach the turbo from a vsport to a regular 3.6L v6
No pretty sure you can’t. But there’s a supercharger kit for your motor. Look into
Overkill I believe
Do this modification work on the CTS 2.0T?
Engine mods are specific to the engine. Nothing I listed in this video applies to the 2.0 I believe. Check with ZZPerformance.com for 2.0 stuff
hey, i’m 20 and just bought a 2015 3.6 litre cts i was wondering if you could suggest any good performance mods or affordable exterior or interior mods p.s i’m in canada
Trifecta does a tune for the 3.6 but only so much you can get out of it without a turbo. Might join the ATS Facebook groups. More people with 3.6 motors being modded there.
For an NA, Overkill Tune and their supercharger kit for the 3.6 is your real bet for any real gains out of an NA engine. They have pretty promising results
JD where can I get a supercharger for my 3.6 v6?
@@EjsWave it’s “overkill” that’s the brand
Haha caught em sleeping at the tree 🌲
More of a sound mod like the exhaust but bov’s
Not really, they were bracket racing in that video. The Corvette has to wait for his light to turn green and chase Danial down and closer to, but not faster than, their own dial in that they choose.
im currently trying to order something from savage cadillac, but when i hit complete payment, it says "We're unable to process your payment at this time. Please try again later.", any idea why my payment wont go through ?
i was able to purchase. but now i have a question on the tips to buy that will fit the v rear diffuser, any suggestions?
Most important thing is that they are short. Not a lot of room between stock muffler and outlet. I believe 3.5” outlets work with the add on and the V diffusers. I do suggest confirming with Savage Cadillac, besides reviewing the product I do not have affiliation with them.
If I got a cadilac cts performance with the na 3.6 v6 how could I mod it
Not much that will get you any power unfortunately. There is a company that makes a supercharger kit.
It’s just not the best car for performance mods, I would just focus on appearance stuff.
So I’ve got a 2014 CTS 2.0 .. can I do a engine swap with the 3.6 turbo or the v8?
Honestly to a 3.6 shouldnt be that hard at all. any engine swaps gonna be a good amount of time but other than the engine mounts and how everything else lines up to account for the twin turbo setup you have already. However i do believe the CTS-V has a longer hood and overall different body style so that V8 may be harder im also not sure if theyre mounted on the same trans so thats another thing to consider. although the 2.0TT and 3.6 are the same body style if you really wanted an engine swap id say that would be the easiest route. though at that point just trade in yours for a 3.6 and a few grand or more miles on the car.
Did you mean there no other tunes for the v or trifecta is the only one that works
Z51 Motor Sports Livernois had one but no current owners have claimed to have it. However one person in the past did. I used to have a tune from a tuner in SoCal but ditched it.
What wheels are you running on this?
Check out exterior mods video in the series! :)
Jet Fuel Only thanks!
This all applies to the ATS except the ATS 2.0T which I have love power adders lol 😂 and doesn’t sound as bad as the cts v6
The ATS 2.0T don’t respond well with mods? I also have another question I have a 2.5L ATS 2014 and I was looking into modding it but i don’t know if it react well with mods, so my question is do it?
@@gasout.dav2174 first off the 2.0LTG does great with mods as it’s essentially a revised and updated LNF which is a revised an LSJ so that he punks your whole statement secondly the CT4 2.0 turbo LSY which is a different turbo and a different engine in the LTG that one doesn’t do very well with mods because it was designed that way. And as for Modding performance wise you’re 2.5 it’s not even worth your time nor worth your money and it does not sound good.
Do these mods work for a regular cts or does it only work for the cts v?
Lowering springs may not lower the car properly with a different engine weight. Brake/tire upgrades can be done to any CTS. Sway bars can be installed on the rear for sure, but not sure if there's other interference up front with a different CTS engine. Exhaust needs to be custom for other CTS models, can't use Vsport or CTS-V parts. I suggest just getting mufflers. Intake won't fit.
@@JetFuelOnly so for the engine specifically, is there anything I can do for improvement in horsepower?
What engine do you have?
@@JetFuelOnly i don’t have the car rn. I’m just interested in the cts and was thinking of customizing it once I buy one
If you want power you gotta go VSPORT or V!
I got people in my city called z performance and they tune and have different stages for it
ZZp isn’t a good company but not the best for the VSport. Justin Schmidt is currently the king of tuning the VSport and ATS-V
@@JetFuelOnly zzp isn’t a good company?!?! Wtf man?!?
@@JetFuelOnly I’ve heard the best tuner for GM products Cadillac/Camaro is cooper. By MANY people!!
Sorry I meant to say good company.
This isn’t about GM products when it comes to the VSPORT. It and the ATS-V are very unique when it comes to tuning. ZZP was unable to tune it properly. Their test car was eventually tuned by Schmidty.
How much is your car lowered?
I’m not sure the exact specs. About an inch though.
@@JetFuelOnly thanks! looks great! Love all your upgrades.
I wanna make my 2014 cts4 faster 😩.. How much my guy
If you have a turbo 2.0 upgrade the turbo, follow the ATS crowd. If you have a 3.6 get the Overkill Supercharger
What are your rohana wheels specs? 19x? +??
19x8.5 +32 front, 19x9.5 +46 Rear
@@JetFuelOnly sweet thank you! Perfect fitment imo
@@JetFuelOnly I was looking into those same wheels before seeing your video, but was thinking of getting 19x9 +35 for both front and rear but the look of yours is convincing me to stagger. 🤔😅
I think the rears would be better as 10-10.5 or more offset to bring them out 10mm.
@@JetFuelOnly yeah that makes sense. Thank you for your input
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Do ALL cts’s come with panoramic???
No. On the VSports you need the premium package. But the packages are different with different variants. But the answer is no, not all have a sunroof.