*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)* It's an absolute pleasure to film these TH-cam videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together. I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions. Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024. To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together. Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc. ... *READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:* I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions. Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration. I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation. I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability. ... *HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH* Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense. This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months. If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes). These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my TH-cam videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship. If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me. I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path. I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations. I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required. By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations. I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together. TH-cam is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material. Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions. ... *SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:* The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday. If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time. IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
I think your channel is gold alone for the book recommendations...lol! But especially for young men anima projection is such an important topic, I'm reading project eden from James Hollis and he said that every relationship starts with a projection which is certainly true for me haha
Great to hear from you again, Max. I've got a few videos coming up that address the anima issues / fantasy fixation! Got an episode on love and romance addiction in two weeks, and a dedicated 'anima integration' in about a month! Watch out for them - and enjoy the books you're studying, Hollis is a master!
I will never be able to reconcile with my mother or my family to be exact, as they are unwilling to change or take accountability. Plus I have Chiron in Cancer. Also have cPTSD and a ton of mental illnesses...I'm working really hard to find my own family but people come and go so quickly in my life. So much trauma to heal and it'll probably take a lifetime. Have already done a decade of work 😵💫😔 I hope that the work that I've done so far has helped, but I really can't do much without money except eating as healthy as I can, exercise, utilise free resources online and seek help from crisis hotlines and shelters.
I think women should get more praising for being kind and caring as it takes a lot strenght to keep warm in a cold world. I have felt it too that men take my kindness for weakness. I have very warm mother who has always been able to nurture and care with a big heart. Sometimes I do feel I am not as good as her as she remembers everyones birthdays, do always home cooked meals as well is already years busy writing down family history for everyone to remember all kinds of events in our lives. Thank you for this nice video. Mothers day is my kind of dream day actually. My dad used to always buy then a beautiful flower morsiushuntu (Campanula isophylla) for my mom🙏
There's something about the mother wound that you forget to mention. There is a passover of patriarchal value that our mother and our mother s mother had to submit to as being dependant of their husbands. While feminity should be celebrated as a gift it has often been linked to shame (shame to be bleeding every month, shame to get pregnant if unmarried ). Our mother were not aware of their sovereignty or their divinity and make it difficult for us to access. To me that's the mother wound. Mother should be growth facilitator not bush clipper.
THE PREGNENT VIRGIN I really want to read this book. You've mentioned this multiple times in other videos. Loved your reference to Kali 💚 She is the fierce feminine form to bring changes to the world. Durga is the nurturing mother form, whom we worship in every household.
Jordan, you came up in my algorithm during 2020, quarantine time. I've went on to do EMDR and gestalt work for a year with a great therapist. You stopped being in my feed for awhile. Now you're back. You have been my single most inspirational, challenging teacher and helpful teacher ever on TH-cam. I have been around searching since John Broadshaw was the next big thing on shows like Phil Donahue and books like FIRE IN THE BELLY eras! You are so authentic and perfect for this new generation. I'm still seeking at 71.❤
I finished "The Pregnant Virgin" a while ago. I'm almost done with "The Unravished Bride" also by Woodman. In the first book, she emphasizes on the importance of the rite of passage when it comes to womanhood (and manhood). She writes several examples of different clients she had worked with and how they went through some form of initiation into womanhood, whether it was through using art or dance or dreamwork and so on. Also, Woodman strangely calls out a lot of the crap in our modern day culture before I was even born, and how accurate she was in her predictions about our culture (as in what would happen if a lack of initiation continued) is terrifying to read. I would absolutely recommend women to read this book, ideally more than once.
It's mother's day today.. ..N i m grieving for not having one i deserve.. But the awareness of the truth makes my journey easier. The freezing response, indifferences, humiliation.....etc... Thank you jordan. I used to devalue myself..,thanx to my mother. But your vdos saved me.. It's so sad how we feel everything, tolerate everything yet become indifferent to ourselves just bcoz of our mother had programmed that from a very early age. Thank you so much.. For making me believe that My rage and pain has very very very valid reason.. N a loads of gratitude for the hope that it still can be undone.
It’s interesting that I have both these issues subconsciously to a high degree. Quite an idealised relation with the feminine which keeps me stuck in a fantasy emotional state of relating to women, completely in my mind… but also a highly demonised and angry perspective on my mother which comes to the fire periodically and is a terrifying state to occupy. The latter being indicative of the true nature and nature of relationship with my actual mother, who was not an engaged or at all pleasant figure in my / our lives. Being a highly devouring, highly competitive and extremely vicious individual. I think it’s a very important feature for me to work on and resolve. This is certainly helpful in progressing towards that. Cheers.
I read Dancing In The Flames and The Ravaged Bridegroom by Marion Woodman after having listened to one of your videos and she is such a must for the Animus and feminine archetypes/ shadows! As it pertains to my mom, it’s all such a web, but I’m trying to untangle it and look at it more clearly. Nonetheless, since reading Marion Woodman I’ve gone down Kali, Mary Magdalene, and ‘crone in the cave’ dream, rabbit holes. Sure, the rabbit holes could be my way of information overloading to avoid silence, but it’s all been pretty fascinating and enlightening. Anyways, rant concluded. Thanks for posting such thought provoking videos with great recommendations!
An excellent rabbit hole of exploration, I’m sure the roads will all loop back round and converge in right timing! Marion Woodman is excellent! Thanks for sharing, Michelle 🌲
@@jordanthornton All the side street detours do seem to always end up leading me back to the center, some detours last a little longer, but they deserve that level of depth of exploration. I’ll stop speaking in fortune cookie now. 😂 Thank you back!
Need help? Try re-parenting or self-parenting. You can do it on your own. Best therapy ever for healing the mother complex / wound. It will change your life in ways you can't fathom. Great video Thanks.
She was warm, as long as I was weak and sick. As I healed, she was cold and angry, for any pretext. Then I got unhappy, she was happy and warm again. Disgusting, suffocating creature.
This has provided me alot of a reflection not just with my own emotionally distant mother but as a mother myself. I'm a single mum of two boys 3 and 8. I've caught myself out more than a few times. And it's come from a projection of my sadness and anger of feeling unsupported and abandonment. Accepting the expectation I had of the life I could provide for my sons alongside a father, has changed. I'm working on this every day. I so appreciate all you share and many of the book recommendations I've been able to find at my local library. It is so immensely helpful. Much love!
I’m glad that you’ve been able to find them at the library - people write me saying how hard some of these are to find, so that’s wonderful, Jess. Good luck with your mothering!
I don't understand your channel or videos that well; and I've tried. You're very well spoken and well read, but you never really *say* anything helpful in your videos. To me, you kind of just intellectualize and talk in circles in a kind of diagnostical way, but you don't offer any real solutions, remedies, treatments, steps, goals...just no actionable steps, instructions or anything to "do." Am I missing something with your method? I'm not trying to be mean or critical. Thanks
Appreciate your feedback! With respect, I start this video by offering six highly-specific and actionable books that I recommend somebody read if they want to practically address issues relating to the mother wound - I’m not sure how I could get more practical in terms of pointing someone in the direction they need to study for themselves 😅 You’re right that I am not a step-by-step kind of teacher on TH-cam, which is also part of the issue with making generalised videos to a general audience - always try to be as specific as I can, but my greatest suggestion is always to go offline and read the books that I recommend! Good luck 🌲
I never thought that I would read a book called "The pregnant virgin"... but then, inner work is about not judging the cover 😬 I'll start with that, then Puer Aeternus. Thank you!
Idealizing and demonizing remembers me a lot of "splitting" in BPD and other cluster B problems. Same work to look at people like imperfect but valid humans and in a long run the byproduct is look at ourselves in same way (shadowwork?)
Thanks for the timely video. I need to read those books, I find it really, really difficult to deal with the mother energy. I left home and moved far, far away in part because of that. It is indeed a complex issue.
You got this - if you take the time and make the effort to read all six of these books then you will find some answers and new possibilities. Good luck, Flavia 🌲
My personal take on the relationship with both of my parents is that the opposed sex parent dictates your daily/moral behavior, and the same sex parent is pushed in the shadow. My mother has a very poor grammar, is allover the place. My father is structured and precise and hates mistakes. All that I do during the day is to become the perfect version of myself, suppressing my uncertainty and weaknesses. But the part of the day that I enjoy the most is first thing in the morning / in my alone time, where I am free to be all over the place but also very connected to my femininity and inspiration. Thank you!
No Alexander Lowen rec’s? His material is so direct on this issue with tons of examples of clients in the grip mother child dynamics…the way he writes on the subject is so clear and digestible.
I want to know everything about my mother’s life, about what made her become the person she is now. But she would never share so much! I often ask my family of the past, but they are very closed up about it! Especially the pain. Unfortunately, I think I’ll never find out all I want to know. Thank you for the video, Jordan. Very interesting topics lately! 🌹
Great video! I think I will actually start with The Awakened Warrior. I have made significant progress on this already, and I feel like if I can reverse some of the damage done, it will help me move on, forgive, and eventually level out in my perception of my mother.
Thankyou so much for shining light and truth in this emotional dark age. 🙏🙌 Im really finding so much peace and power by watching your videos. Blessings, peace and more power to you 🙌💐🌍🙏
I wonder if a man who hates his mother for being conditionally loving or overly sexual with him creates a misogynistic man. I know two men, who, apparently aren’t gay, that treat women badly emotionally and in the bedroom. One of them is my daughter’s father. Of course I, being so dysfunctional from my childhood trauma, wouldn’t recognize an unhealthy man until it was too late. I’m trying to figure out what’s “wrong” with my daughter’s father and his “best” friend. Are they gay or do they just want to “punish” women? I’ll probably never know the real truth.
@@jordanthornton At least you provide a forum where the question can actually be asked. Thank you! His new wife that he immediately rebounded with after me has recently snapped. Cops were called on these highly educated pillars of the community. She is forcing him into counseling after years of trying to get him to love her.
@@jordanthornton right on time, ur videos really helped, I hate my mom and dad but this at least let me understand how to fix it. Im gonna try and suicide soon but the things you said were very true. Thanks❤️
@@jyymorrison1445 Don't you fucking dare, my friend. I've been in that headspace - was there for 12 years - and I'm glad I didn't take my life. Check out my video on the 'dark night of the soul' (it's got a black and white thumbnail) if you want some powerful books that will help. Most importantly, give yourself at least one year to heal. Delay the decision by another full year, and do everything you can to heal in the meantime. You can experience life beyond the heaviness, so much of life ahead my friend.
@@jordanthornton yea life is pretty cool . I couldn’t die but as I was attempting I started feeling bliss. You see I knew everything there was to know about the universe and what I need to do, it’s just that I couldn’t internalize the facts and made a horrible decision plus my family was no help. But I’m better than good now and feel “spiritually high”. I actually have a ton of notes that I’d like to share with you one day. Your whole channel and “ideology” is genius and correct, I like how your using facts and not beliefs. Thanks man I’ll always keep growing and leveling up ❤️💪🏾
@@jordanthornton you see people like you are true heros, you don’t carry people you give the information to help them pick themselves up. I always tried to be a “hero” but I was just delaying the inevitable in people who couldn’t change. Now I’m giving as much true information as I can to people who need it while leveling up ( changing behaviors, Working out intensely, eating raw and organic living foods, studying and being positive etc.) I’ve developed a love for life and “death” too. I guess my attempt was a necessary part in seeing the “ big picture”
I had a few hours of intense emotional experience a week ago when i recognized i had created an internalized perfect maternal figure, one I didnt have to be "john wayne/hyper formal business-always WASP" in front of. I identified this mother figure with Sophia, and my egoistic hateful protofascist male childhood with Yaldabaoth. Transition freed me from the straightjacket of performative masculinity, allowing me to follow my interests and ultimately be attracted to men without the conditioned reflexive terror of being considered "gay" and the promise of physical altercation always waiting in every upright primate i passed. I have always been terrified of my mother but aside from television i had no male role model who was younger than 70. Everything was as fake as a mcmansion. This was a helpful video. It's really challenging to negotiate Jung & Gnosticism being trans, considering my identity can only be considered pathological and so there is no conversation to be had that doesn't presuppose the "goal" of detransition. Nevertheless, trying to fake being cis congruent as an e-persona negates whatever outcome im searching for. Like Sir Galahad entering the forest of the unknown for the Holy Grail, i cannot follow well tread extant paths, for they are the paths of others, and lead to their destinations. Im inspired to start my own exploration series, despite the torrents of righteous wrath that will invite. Something primal and dark has been stirred in the masses as an instrument of control. My mind moves across the face of the darkened turbulent waters, and it is time to let there be light.
Thank you Jordan again for the reading recommendations. As a mother of three boys(twins 21 yrs & 9 yrs), I am going to grab "Awakening the Warrior" as well. I have a feeling it will be insightful. I hope it may help me understand my father more as well ❤️🩹 Thank you
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*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)*
It's an absolute pleasure to film these TH-cam videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together.
I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions.
Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024.
To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together.
Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc.
...
*READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:*
I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions.
Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration.
I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation.
I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability.
...
*HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH*
Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense.
This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months.
If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes).
These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my TH-cam videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship.
If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me.
I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path.
I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations.
I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required.
By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations.
I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together.
TH-cam is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material.
Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions.
...
*SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:*
The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday.
If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time.
IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
I think your channel is gold alone for the book recommendations...lol! But especially for young men anima projection is such an important topic, I'm reading project eden from James Hollis and he said that every relationship starts with a projection which is certainly true for me haha
Great to hear from you again, Max. I've got a few videos coming up that address the anima issues / fantasy fixation! Got an episode on love and romance addiction in two weeks, and a dedicated 'anima integration' in about a month! Watch out for them - and enjoy the books you're studying, Hollis is a master!
Hollis’s “The Eden Project” is truly a phenomenal book.
I will never be able to reconcile with my mother or my family to be exact, as they are unwilling to change or take accountability. Plus I have Chiron in Cancer. Also have cPTSD and a ton of mental illnesses...I'm working really hard to find my own family but people come and go so quickly in my life. So much trauma to heal and it'll probably take a lifetime. Have already done a decade of work 😵💫😔
I hope that the work that I've done so far has helped, but I really can't do much without money except eating as healthy as I can, exercise, utilise free resources online and seek help from crisis hotlines and shelters.
I think women should get more praising for being kind and caring as it takes a lot strenght to keep warm in a cold world. I have felt it too that men take my kindness for weakness. I have very warm mother who has always been able to nurture and care with a big heart. Sometimes I do feel I am not as good as her as she remembers everyones birthdays, do always home cooked meals as well is already years busy writing down family history for everyone to remember all kinds of events in our lives. Thank you for this nice video. Mothers day is my kind of dream day actually. My dad used to always buy then a beautiful flower morsiushuntu (Campanula isophylla) for my mom🙏
I know what you mean.
There's something about the mother wound that you forget to mention. There is a passover of patriarchal value that our mother and our mother s mother had to submit to as being dependant of their husbands. While feminity should be celebrated as a gift it has often been linked to shame (shame to be bleeding every month, shame to get pregnant if unmarried ). Our mother were not aware of their sovereignty or their divinity and make it difficult for us to access. To me that's the mother wound. Mother should be growth facilitator not bush clipper.
THE PREGNENT VIRGIN
I really want to read this book. You've mentioned this multiple times in other videos.
Loved your reference to Kali 💚 She is the fierce feminine form to bring changes to the world. Durga is the nurturing mother form, whom we worship in every household.
Jordan, you came up in my algorithm during 2020, quarantine time. I've went on to do EMDR and gestalt work for a year with a great therapist. You stopped being in my feed for awhile. Now you're back. You have been my single most inspirational, challenging teacher and helpful teacher ever on TH-cam. I have been around searching since John Broadshaw was the next big thing on shows like Phil Donahue and books like FIRE IN THE BELLY eras! You are so authentic and perfect for this new generation. I'm still seeking at 71.❤
Still seeking at 71, now that’s an inspiration for me to follow. Thanks for being here all these years, and it’s good to be reacquainted.
I finished "The Pregnant Virgin" a while ago. I'm almost done with "The Unravished Bride" also by Woodman. In the first book, she emphasizes on the importance of the rite of passage when it comes to womanhood (and manhood). She writes several examples of different clients she had worked with and how they went through some form of initiation into womanhood, whether it was through using art or dance or dreamwork and so on. Also, Woodman strangely calls out a lot of the crap in our modern day culture before I was even born, and how accurate she was in her predictions about our culture (as in what would happen if a lack of initiation continued) is terrifying to read. I would absolutely recommend women to read this book, ideally more than once.
Diane, this mini-review is great - I’m sure it’s inspired somebody to make the effort, thank you!
It's mother's day today.. ..N i m grieving for not having one i deserve.. But the awareness of the truth makes my journey easier. The freezing response, indifferences, humiliation.....etc... Thank you jordan. I used to devalue myself..,thanx to my mother. But your vdos saved me.. It's so sad how we feel everything, tolerate everything yet become indifferent to ourselves just bcoz of our mother had programmed that from a very early age. Thank you so much.. For making me believe that My rage and pain has very very very valid reason.. N a loads of gratitude for the hope that it still can be undone.
Like my therapist said years ago... "the Mother complex is a mutha f@cker".
Well said 😂
It’s interesting that I have both these issues subconsciously to a high degree. Quite an idealised relation with the feminine which keeps me stuck in a fantasy emotional state of relating to women, completely in my mind… but also a highly demonised and angry perspective on my mother which comes to the fire periodically and is a terrifying state to occupy. The latter being indicative of the true nature and nature of relationship with my actual mother, who was not an engaged or at all pleasant figure in my / our lives. Being a highly devouring, highly competitive and extremely vicious individual. I think it’s a very important feature for me to work on and resolve. This is certainly helpful in progressing towards that. Cheers.
Some nuanced and reflective commenting here, thanks for taking the time. I enjoyed seeing some of your process.
I read Dancing In The Flames and The Ravaged Bridegroom by Marion Woodman after having listened to one of your videos and she is such a must for the Animus and feminine archetypes/ shadows! As it pertains to my mom, it’s all such a web, but I’m trying to untangle it and look at it more clearly.
Nonetheless, since reading Marion Woodman I’ve gone down Kali, Mary Magdalene, and ‘crone in the cave’ dream, rabbit holes. Sure, the rabbit holes could be my way of information overloading to avoid silence, but it’s all been pretty fascinating and enlightening.
Anyways, rant concluded. Thanks for posting such thought provoking videos with great recommendations!
An excellent rabbit hole of exploration, I’m sure the roads will all loop back round and converge in right timing! Marion Woodman is excellent! Thanks for sharing, Michelle 🌲
@@jordanthornton All the side street detours do seem to always end up leading me back to the center, some detours last a little longer, but they deserve that level of depth of exploration.
I’ll stop speaking in fortune cookie now. 😂
Thank you back!
Need help? Try re-parenting or self-parenting. You can do it on your own. Best therapy ever for healing the mother complex / wound. It will change your life in ways you can't fathom.
Great video Thanks.
She was warm, as long as I was weak and sick. As I healed, she was cold and angry, for any pretext. Then I got unhappy, she was happy and warm again. Disgusting, suffocating creature.
I'm sending you my best for the new week ahead, keep going.
This has provided me alot of a reflection not just with my own emotionally distant mother but as a mother myself. I'm a single mum of two boys 3 and 8. I've caught myself out more than a few times. And it's come from a projection of my sadness and anger of feeling unsupported and abandonment. Accepting the expectation I had of the life I could provide for my sons alongside a father, has changed. I'm working on this every day. I so appreciate all you share and many of the book recommendations I've been able to find at my local library. It is so immensely helpful. Much love!
I’m glad that you’ve been able to find them at the library - people write me saying how hard some of these are to find, so that’s wonderful, Jess. Good luck with your mothering!
Lucky them for having an aware mother like you 😊
6:38 latin "promoveo/procedo" = to advance/move forward, and "aggregare" = to flock together ?
I don't understand your channel or videos that well; and I've tried. You're very well spoken and well read, but you never really *say* anything helpful in your videos. To me, you kind of just intellectualize and talk in circles in a kind of diagnostical way, but you don't offer any real solutions, remedies, treatments, steps, goals...just no actionable steps, instructions or anything to "do." Am I missing something with your method? I'm not trying to be mean or critical. Thanks
Appreciate your feedback! With respect, I start this video by offering six highly-specific and actionable books that I recommend somebody read if they want to practically address issues relating to the mother wound - I’m not sure how I could get more practical in terms of pointing someone in the direction they need to study for themselves 😅 You’re right that I am not a step-by-step kind of teacher on TH-cam, which is also part of the issue with making generalised videos to a general audience - always try to be as specific as I can, but my greatest suggestion is always to go offline and read the books that I recommend! Good luck 🌲
I never thought that I would read a book called "The pregnant virgin"... but then, inner work is about not judging the cover 😬 I'll start with that, then Puer Aeternus.
Thank you!
Me neither! Glad that we have the flexibility hahah
Have you, by any chance, read Peter Walker's book, Complex PTSD? I'd be curious to hear an opinion on it.
It’s in the library and I sometimes suggest it to clients - good call, will see if I can integrate it!
Idealizing and demonizing remembers me a lot of "splitting" in BPD and other cluster B problems. Same work to look at people like imperfect but valid humans and in a long run the byproduct is look at ourselves in same way (shadowwork?)
That’s an extreme example, yes - but we all do this to some degree, it’s called bias! Absolutely about seeing both sides 🌲
Thanks for the timely video. I need to read those books, I find it really, really difficult to deal with the mother energy. I left home and moved far, far away in part because of that. It is indeed a complex issue.
Same story, but it follows you. Healing is the only way
You got this - if you take the time and make the effort to read all six of these books then you will find some answers and new possibilities. Good luck, Flavia 🌲
Thanks for the video
You are doing a great job
I’m going to read the book Awakening the Heroes Within from Pearson, what do you think about it?
Solid choice, enjoy!
This is a gift. Thank you, Jordan.
My pleasure, good luck 🌲
Thanks! What could I recommend for someone raised by a mother with narcissistic traits?
Codependence by Charles Whitfield is a great book for this if you want a practical read that goes in many places.
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My personal take on the relationship with both of my parents is that the opposed sex parent dictates your daily/moral behavior, and the same sex parent is pushed in the shadow. My mother has a very poor grammar, is allover the place. My father is structured and precise and hates mistakes. All that I do during the day is to become the perfect version of myself, suppressing my uncertainty and weaknesses. But the part of the day that I enjoy the most is first thing in the morning / in my alone time, where I am free to be all over the place but also very connected to my femininity and inspiration. Thank you!
No Alexander Lowen rec’s? His material is so direct on this issue with tons of examples of clients in the grip mother child dynamics…the way he writes on the subject is so clear and digestible.
Of course! I recommend him so often that I make a conscious effort to include more variety in these videos, but I agree with you!
Would you please mention the name of the book by Lowen?
10:10 😂 can’t address the mother complex without taking about milfs lmao.
Great video about to read the puer aeternus book
That’s certainly a way to see it 😉
MILF is also one of the most searched subjects to view on Pornhub.
I'm working towards being able to afford your mentorship program which may take years but in the meantime I'll devour the books and videos lol
Thanks Jordan! Love your channel !
Most welcome, as always!
I want to know everything about my mother’s life, about what made her become the person she is now. But she would never share so much!
I often ask my family of the past, but they are very closed up about it! Especially the pain. Unfortunately, I think I’ll never find out all I want to know.
Thank you for the video, Jordan. Very interesting topics lately! 🌹
My mom “tried” that’s all I can say.
This feels like an amazing introduction to this complex and deep topic. Thank you! I will ready The Awakened Warrior!!!
Sebastian, thank you. Keep going deep and enjoy the new reading.
Great video! I think I will actually start with The Awakened Warrior. I have made significant progress on this already, and I feel like if I can reverse some of the damage done, it will help me move on, forgive, and eventually level out in my perception of my mother.
Enjoy the process, it's a great book.
Thankyou so much for shining light and truth in this emotional dark age. 🙏🙌
Im really finding so much peace and power by watching your videos.
Blessings, peace and more power to you 🙌💐🌍🙏
Absolutely - make sure to get the books too! Real gold there.
The Awakened Warrior
It’s a great read! You’ll love it.
the awakened warrior, but its not available anywhere, can you link us with a pdf or epub?
With respect, although I love books, why do you think I would be personally sending out pdf’s and breaking copyright law? 😂
Thank you, Jordan. Good video.
Appreciate you comment efforts as always!
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Would love to have a coffee with you. Knowledge is on point
Thank you, brother!
I wonder if a man who hates his mother for being conditionally loving or overly sexual with him creates a misogynistic man. I know two men, who, apparently aren’t gay, that treat women badly emotionally and in the bedroom. One of them is my daughter’s father. Of course I, being so dysfunctional from my childhood trauma, wouldn’t recognize an unhealthy man until it was too late. I’m trying to figure out what’s “wrong” with my daughter’s father and his “best” friend. Are they gay or do they just want to “punish” women? I’ll probably never know the real truth.
I unfortunately can’t answer this for you either, but I nonetheless wish you the best on your journey ahead, Rebecca 🌲
@@desixdelilah Okay! Thank you!
@@jordanthornton At least you provide a forum where the question can actually be asked. Thank you! His new wife that he immediately rebounded with after me has recently snapped. Cops were called on these highly educated pillars of the community. She is forcing him into counseling after years of trying to get him to love her.
Does this dude sound muffled or is it just me?
It’s your speakers, headphones or hearing. He’s using a nice mic and has a sonorous voice with a lot of low end
The problem of puer aeternus deserves a video on his own 🌲
I agree! Will get there!
Yeah I agree on this! As a man!
youre incredible
Thank you, hope you keep enjoying the channel!
Impressive speech.
Cheers, I hope it helped 🌲
Too intense 😭
Wishing you all my best, as always 🌲
@@jordanthornton Thank you 💚
Hey can I talk with you real quick?
Here’s your chance in the comments - what’s up?
@@jordanthornton right on time, ur videos really helped, I hate my mom and dad but this at least let me understand how to fix it. Im gonna try and suicide soon but the things you said were very true. Thanks❤️
@@jyymorrison1445 Don't you fucking dare, my friend. I've been in that headspace - was there for 12 years - and I'm glad I didn't take my life.
Check out my video on the 'dark night of the soul' (it's got a black and white thumbnail) if you want some powerful books that will help.
Most importantly, give yourself at least one year to heal. Delay the decision by another full year, and do everything you can to heal in the meantime.
You can experience life beyond the heaviness, so much of life ahead my friend.
@@jordanthornton yea life is pretty cool . I couldn’t die but as I was attempting I started feeling bliss. You see I knew everything there was to know about the universe and what I need to do, it’s just that I couldn’t internalize the facts and made a horrible decision plus my family was no help. But I’m better than good now and feel “spiritually high”. I actually have a ton of notes that I’d like to share with you one day. Your whole channel and “ideology” is genius and correct, I like how your using facts and not beliefs. Thanks man I’ll always keep growing and leveling up ❤️💪🏾
@@jordanthornton you see people like you are true heros, you don’t carry people you give the information to help them pick themselves up. I always tried to be a “hero” but I was just delaying the inevitable in people who couldn’t change. Now I’m giving as much true information as I can to people who need it while leveling up ( changing behaviors, Working out intensely, eating raw and organic living foods, studying and being positive etc.) I’ve developed a love for life and “death” too. I guess my attempt was a necessary part in seeing the “ big picture”
I had a few hours of intense emotional experience a week ago when i recognized i had created an internalized perfect maternal figure, one I didnt have to be "john wayne/hyper formal business-always WASP" in front of. I identified this mother figure with Sophia, and my egoistic hateful protofascist male childhood with Yaldabaoth. Transition freed me from the straightjacket of performative masculinity, allowing me to follow my interests and ultimately be attracted to men without the conditioned reflexive terror of being considered "gay" and the promise of physical altercation always waiting in every upright primate i passed.
I have always been terrified of my mother but aside from television i had no male role model who was younger than 70. Everything was as fake as a mcmansion.
This was a helpful video. It's really challenging to negotiate Jung & Gnosticism being trans, considering my identity can only be considered pathological and so there is no conversation to be had that doesn't presuppose the "goal" of detransition. Nevertheless, trying to fake being cis congruent as an e-persona negates whatever outcome im searching for. Like Sir Galahad entering the forest of the unknown for the Holy Grail, i cannot follow well tread extant paths, for they are the paths of others, and lead to their destinations.
Im inspired to start my own exploration series, despite the torrents of righteous wrath that will invite. Something primal and dark has been stirred in the masses as an instrument of control. My mind moves across the face of the darkened turbulent waters, and it is time to let there be light.
Thank you Jordan again for the reading recommendations. As a mother of three boys(twins 21 yrs & 9 yrs), I am going to grab "Awakening the Warrior" as well. I have a feeling it will be insightful. I hope it may help me understand my father more as well ❤️🩹
Thank you
What books are good for healing father complex , i hate that little child who behaves like a mob boss
Recommend reading the archetype of initiation by Robert Moore, in addition to the awakened warrior as featured in this video! Good luck.