"Carl Gustave Jung was a student of Freud," * What is often overlooked is Jung was a 'student' of Nietzsche for longer than Freud, especially after their break. Also the influence bleeds from the page itself - As Jung said you read more about the therapist, reading their books, than you learn of their therapies.
Freud was an ignorant, dark and empty man imo. He lacked spirituality. Jung didnt. He acknowledged the human soul and thats what makes him greater. Freud has something sinister about him and Jung was kinda ..."warm".
@@allenandrews2380 Nietchze was clever he was the hit and lure type of character but then he surprises you with those he mentions to hate you would have to read their work just to understand Nietchze so bad publicity is good in his case. He fooled me but I can't claim to know everything about his work just that he is decisive.
As a depth psychologist of 30+ years, I am impressed by and appreciative of your understanding and clear delivery of Jung's ideas. And I will be recommending your channel. Two critiques, however: Archetypes are at the core of complexes but are not complexes themselves, or sub-personalities (which is a complex). They exist independently of a person, or personality, and as you note, are certainly more powerful. And I wished you'd noted that the anima/animus was Jung's most time- and culturally-relative concept. In a sense you do this by focusing primarily on the anima, as Jung did, because had less understanding of the female psyche (as he would admit) and wanted to create a symmetric pair, an equivalent for women. Currently it seems more accurate to speak of "anims," with the understanding that men and women are influenced by both the anim(a) and anim(us), relative to how feminine or masculine their psyche is. For example, gay men are likely to have a very different relationship to the Feminine than straight men, particularly in the erotic dimension. But as Jung would be the first to say, his ideas are not Truth, and they certainly evolved over the course of his life.
All thinkers (including scientists) will always argue with one another in trying to intellectually understand how everything turns, as long as they shove intuition to the role of a caboose instead of the locomotive. Once we intuitively understand the workings of "IT ALL," we stop talking about it because it's impossible to intellectualize such a knowing. It's like writing hundreds of dissertations on how a rose smells without ever smelling it. And when we finally smell it, we glide on the "unbearable lightness of being," as Kundera would so beautifully phrase it; without the battle and the splitting headache. Thank you for your fantastically disarming way of exploring all the philosophical insides.
"Science", like its cousin words "scissors" "schism", "scythe", "scar", "scrape", "scoop"...even the ancient "scindere": means to split or take away from a "whole". Science by its nature is the splitting of whole concepts into reductive parts...and at the very first slice, something fundamental is lost. Jung and many before and after him recognized that, and mysticism including almost all ancient wisdom literature is the attempt to heal, remedy or at least challenge that divide...Zero and infinity are the same entity, and within/among/because of that we are experiencing in the eternal now....but don't tell that to someone who's addicted to splitting everything into divisions and reductions, whether they're dualists haunted by the evil of their own shadow, or atheists angry at the fact that the duality was a lie but still caught in the construct. At the same time, all the stories and myths we are drawn to usually reinforce the stark divisions and dualities...they are impetus for us, a force that draws us to action...the adventure is in trying to join the division...not simply realizing suddenly that the division was a false image we created ourselves. That's why we must allow each other to come to terms with our divisions ourselves...we can't force-feed transcendence to others, they have to swallow it in their own way at their own time.
But supposing your view is the right one, that ineffable knowledge must be able to inform how we regard ourselves and our relations and actions in the mundane world.
Man, I’ve been soaking up every video I can find about Jung these past 2 months. That quote about the shadow and the masses absolutely gave me chills. What an exhilarating frame of mind to approach humanity
@@BlueCoore sure, I’m old and dumb and you’re phrasing your comment like some alpaca headed zoomer. No moron, when you live in the Midwest and steeped in Presbyterian dogma.. these ideologies and archetypes are considered heretical. So no, the masses that lived like I have for the past 20 years and are discovering these ideas are just understanding Jung’s framework.
Super-Ego is the crown chakra, Blocked by ego attachment Ego is the third eye chakra, Blocked by illusions Id is the throat chakra, Blocked by lies it is ridiculous that modern psychologists just renamed ancient concepts to advance their career...
Well done. I'm a hermit. After watching the turkeys in this valley for a few decades, I came up with the theory that memory can be inherited. I then saw researchers who studied ravens show that the grandchildren of the original tested were afraid of the masks by which their grandparents were scared. A researcher in NYC noticed the grandchildren of mice, whose grandparents were shock while eating almonds were afraid to eat almonds. The grandchildren of people who were starving during WW2 had strange metabolisms. Dr. Finkel from the museum in London saw evidence that the fear of ghosts could be inherited. Finally, Jung saw a great deal of MY theory. lol (isn't an instinct a type of inherited memory?) This is only a small part of my life long study of our brains. I believe that we are obsessed with problem solving because our weak bodied ancestors had to problem solve to eat every day. Those who didn't problem solve died. Only those who were obsessed lived. It all ties to food. People unknowingly attack a black friday sale as those it were a herd of deer. We are so obsessed with problem solving that everything you own or do relates to it. You watch movies to see how others problem solve. You watch or play sports or any game because it is a problem. You even solve problems when you die with life insurance. Without knowing you, I can tell you that in every flood, famine, plague, illness, disease, etc. not a single one of your direct ancestors died as children. Had they, you would not have been born. I think it is amazing to be alive.
"Not everybody has virtues, but everybody has the low instincts, the basic primitive caveman suggestibility, the suspicions and vicious traits of the savage." - Jung In every political system, people vote for their "shadow". This is not unique to a particular people either. The masses want to express this side as a means to devolve any kind of responsibility because the masses are simply beyond reason or principles and have always been trained to have their disgusts stimulated while being blind to it. Being in such an unconscious state makes them blind to their shadows. This is also why the masses are so clueless, even when political/social problems are obvious. This is also why we see so many who are supposedly “anti establishment” later promote the establishment. They merely hated who was in power at the time, but in their hearts they craved to wield that power. So they were never anti establishment, they wanted to be the establishment. Seeking political power (authority) in order to solve problems makes the common man detestable.
I always say our rulers are our measure. "As we wind on down the road. Our shadows taller than our souls. There walks a lady we all know. Who shines white light and wants to show. How everything still turns to gold. And if you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last. When all are one and one are all. To be a rock and not to roll...And she's buying a stairway to heaven..." She's our reflection but we pretend she is the helper of the serpent in our deception but we named the serpent assigning it's nature at the time of creation.
Dude, thanks for all the podcasts. I’d say your stuff are among the best content on youtube currently. I usually dont comment on anything, but i just wanted to let you know that what you are doing is valuable and meaningful. Keep it up man, you are an inspiration! Lots of love from Finland! ❤
It’s difficult to fully encapsulate exactly how much I appreciate all of your work. You’ve made otherwise quite difficult ideas and concepts more easily accessible for the non-academic and dilettante. Thank you.
I’ve always had the desire to get into Jung’s work. I’ve read a few texts by him but for some reason cannot get behind most of his ideas no matter how much I want to. I love Nietzsche and love your commentary on him. Best on youtube for sure! Looking forward to this one. Thanks for all the great work you do!
I recommend Psychology and Alchemy. It’s a difficult but rewarding book, that will be valuable even if you agree with none of Jung’s ideas: as a historical, psychological study if nothing else, almost a work of anthropology or philology
I suggest you should start to write your dream, until it's started to appear as an episodic story. Just describe and inquire what you had experience during the dream and reflect on current or persisted problem in your life. Familiarize yourself with the imaginary until you are aware it's meaning. Then look at Jung ideas on archetype.
@@untimelyreflections you’re one of the only few people I listen to for these topics as you are well read and approach things from a distance, and not a set agenda or trying to sell something. You don’t infect people with complexes.
Ive been giving myself a crash course on the philosophy of Jung and this was the best intro that Ive come across! Intellectually stimulating while expressing these ideas in an easy to understand way. I'd love to see part 2 of this!!
As a reader of DH Lawrence many people know of his Lady Chatterleys Lover, but in my opinion Psychoanalysis and the Unconscious & Fantasia of the Unconscious are His Best Writings. As in the case of Herman Hesse the Most Important Book of His is Magister Ludi or The Glass Bead Game. Jack London is known for Call of the Wild but his Best Book was The Star Rover . As Rudyard Kipling was made famous for Jungle Books and all the other tales he wrote, The Mark of the Beast and other Horror Tales. C G Jung is known for many things but The Undiscovered Self and The Dilemma of the Individual in Modern Society has always been my Favorite. I have a High School education but along with other jobs I was a Respiratory Therapist from 1972-1986 than I worked for the LADWP as an Electrical Station Operator for 30 years were I spent 17 years in the Owen’s Valley by Bishop California. Retired in 2016 and moved to Carson City Nv. Thank you for taking the time to read my writings. God Bless
I will take your recommendation of "The Undiscovered Self...." as my next read. Jung's journey within himself to find an academic perspective of the soul and how we can understand this part of ourselves to become a better person and engage these beings is sorely lacking in this world.
May we please do a text revision and study of Erich Neumann's 'History and Origin of the Unconscious' - its definately worth the hype. Or Von Franz' 'Way of Individuation'. I love Jung; but Jungians can be just as fascinating.
Most informative introduction to Jung I have ever come across. I've read several of his books and dabbled in the practices for a few years now and still learned some new things, and appreciated your insight. I am also just getting into Nietzsche and your videos there have been fundamental to my understanding. Much thanks sir, keep up the good work.
Professor Ricahrd Bishop worked widely on different aspects of analytical psychology and its place in intellectual history. His books examine different aspects of analytical psychology and its place in intellectual history. His books examine the history of ideas with an emphasis on Jung, Nietzsche, and Ludwig Klages ( Jung is saying the great- grandmother the basard son of Gerta. Is it true or not- Jung said it is an annoying legend. Professor Richard Bishop is the editor of Numerous Volumes, including Jung in contests. 1. The Persistence of Myth as symbolic Form. 2. A Companion to Goethe's Faust & the Descent of the Soul & the Archaic. 3. Jung's Answer to Job 4. Nietzsche's Anti-Christ 5.The 2 volume series Analytical Psychology & German Classic Aesthetics 6. His latest book, Reading Plato Through Jung: Why The Third Becomes the Fourth I can't wait until you get to Jung's letters. So many writers contribute the updates to Carl Jung, Jungian analysts, and many may disagree. What an amazing adventure in one of greatest minds of C.J. Jung's writings. It was fortunate that the family kept his blackbooks and paintings in a bank vault until our world could awaken more. The time was ready especially now. Thank you, great lecture.
Next week we’ll have another Jung episode, but after that we’re wrapping the season with more Nietzsche. But I’ll definitely return to Jung in the future. The freud/jung letters for sure
@@untimelyreflections oh man I was hoping for a ten episode playlist on Jung from you Please do more podcasts on other German thinkers. Jung, Heidegger, Hegel, Kant, Spengler, etc
Whoa… how the hell are you doing this? Your talks are better than most professors. You seem to be doing a an “Alan Watts” or a “Dan Carlin” move here, like you know exactly what you want to say seemingly without any notes or practice in a classroom. I’ll stop gushing here but with two requests; 1) Can you spend some time on Heidegger? I think you can nail it. 2) Can you mention anywhere something about your method for putting these talks together !! I’m interested in your process as a communicator. Thanks. 🙏
I will argue against a materialist approach to archetypes. You have misunderstood Jung. By the last part of his life, he explicitly stated a larger connection with universal consciousness. I would refer you to "decoding Jung's metaphysics", by the philosopher and scientist, Bernardo Kastrup. 😊 13:50
@@MichaelJones-ek3vx I would agree with you to the deepest extent of arctype Jungian in another words certain arcytypes says something about the truth with certain degrees or perspectives toward others outwardly but never the less they remains heavy pointers,truth itself can't be pointed at you become it for a while as a whole or not because paradoxically it says nothing about it is the being potentially in timeless spaceless state of statelessness,that is where all words and thinking rest speechless.
whenever Jung describes a dream one of his patients told him, I get a feeling that one of them is lying about the incredible details of the dream that fit nicely into his explanations and theories
There was a little red book i once took out from the library - the preface the best insight into jung by jung and the author of the book. It was a collection of his best essays i believe , and his comments were weitten post red-book. I highly highly reccomend you tp read it if you can find it.
Very glad you put this one together. I've been deeply influenced by both Nietzsche and Jung in the last 4 years and often wondered how Nietzsche would have handled Jung's criticisms of him and his work. I suspect he (Nietzsche) would have had no trouble defending himself, as his sharpness of wit and intellect was superior to Jung's, not to mention that the roots of Jung's psychology were a direct result of Nietzsche's influence upon him. Thank you again for the excellent, thought provoking work, Keegan.
Well done, I’m looking forward to the Jungian analysis of our beloved tortured genius. Suggestion, how about an episode on the master/slave morality using the famous chapter from Dostoevsky’s Brothers Karamozov- the Grand Inquisitor. I reread it today, and was struck by brother Ivan’s parallel to Nietzsche’s theory. I felt a deeper understanding of that hypothetical tale due to a better understanding of Nietzsche via reading his Twilight, Beyond, Genealogy, etc, and- of course- your excellent podcast- my God that content rescues me from the tedium of boredom at my job. Gracias
My reality was something that given and followed. Of lower class, blind is without option. It is truly mind blowing that I now can experience such things that only a past life memory may have offered. I am not blind. My vision is of spiritual nature, for it is from the heart that my understanding of complexity comes. Sometimes I cry freely. Overwhelmed with personal knowing, a moment of brilliance I am alive. For once blind from blindness I see. A reverence for this awareness of life. I am my shadow as I am my light. To taste wholeness brings many abilities of being most importantly is a man capable. For what is a man if he is not aware of his nature. Capable is full feeling of man's purpose. In my new awareness I walk in my power. The power to be from becoming. I am a man. 🔥❤️🔥🔥❤️🔥🔥❤️🔥🔥❤️🔥🙏
28:15 mins into this reminds me of goro akechi ALSO THIS WAS SO INTERESTING im working on this art project for school and i took some inspiration from soem of yung's theories and omg the more i learn, the more things come full circle and further support my motifs and meanings and stuff AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@untimelyreflections ikr! Been subbed for about a year and a half, just never really delved into your music related content and only caught a couple IRL posts. You honestly lucked out, I would have talked your ear off about philosophy if I'd realized who I was talking to 😂 you guys played a killer show, y'all gotta come back to AR after hiatus!
36:00 I speculate sometimes that information has its own natural laws, like the physical realm has the strong and weak nuclear force, etc. And one of the forces in information is entropy, and further, it has periods of time and also physical scopes, from our perspective, when it is much more prevalent than other places or times. For example, at my home today several completely unrelated things failed or broke within a 12 hour period. I think this phenomenon gives rise to the idea its the function of a concious agent, or "gremlin" . Im certain those whose professions are, to generalize, antientropic, such as keeping I.T. power generation, vehicles, large systems of any kind, from failure, have observed that entropy clusters. I dont know why. But as someone who has spent a career in industrial support and repair Ive seen it many times. One particular system may be absurdly disfunctional for a period of time while an identical but seperate system has no such affliction. It affects specific machines or areas, and has periods of time when it occurs. It can also be related to a particular goal or endpoint of a process, where many unrelated things go wrong that prevent completion or success.
With Freud, you need an analyst to help you see your repressed content. Whereas Jung gives you tools like the shadow self to help you see evidence of your own repressed content. Is it fair to say this?
Thanks for the overview, after having been introduced to this a bit more formally it's become apparent to me that I don't care about psychology as a field whatsoever.
"Freud is an atheist" That's why, to Freud, everything boiled down to base drives like procreation. That said, Jung was right. There certainly are archetypes that repeat over and over through history, and with knowledge of the Zodiac, Jung's archetypes are much easier to understand!
Projection is revealed most easily when we begin to work with our shadow archetypes. Look on line in comments to react to someone who angers you or whatever. Then, find those same feelings within yourself. Self observation is essential to self understanding. 💥
This may sound bananas, but this was me until I saw someone and supplemented with magnesium, zinc and a b complex. Then I began seeing I had had dreams (and began remembering)
Thank you very much for this presentation in such wonderful voice. Please may I point out, Soul in German is not pronounced " seªl" but rather " Sèèlé". Thank you.
Have you ever heard the esoteric interpretation of the Trinity in many religions being an allegory for the psyche? The father being the thoughts ( brain stem and cerebellum, responsible for survival and getting s*** done divorced from emotion, the originator of thoughts therefore creator God of our thinking) the holy Spirit being the mother (limbic system, emotional mind, the "spirit" in which we do things) and the Son being the balanced hemispheres of the neocortex- the activated pineal gland (born of the mother divorced or removed from the father, hence the Virgin in the Christian Trinity). So in summary, for a person to reach their higher state of consciousness it takes using the compassionate/spiritual mind to keep the base instincts at Bay giving birth to the balanced mind leading to an understanding of how to do right moral action in the world.. the "savior" of mankind. I really love your stuff btw, Your channel should be massive
Mildly interesting. The guy is basically describing the Ancient Neolithic Religion but as subordinated to and "cancelled" by the Patriarchal Order (be it Indoeuropean or Semitic, i.e. Judeo-Christo-Muslim). He doesn't seem to actually have understood the whole implications of all this, did he?
@@samuelpenninga1468 - What do you mean? "Tricksterization", "deceiver-ization" or just "demonization" is part of subsumption to the Indoeuropean and Semitic narrative of the patriarchal sky god (and court). The real Snake God (male side of the gender-binary Neolithic monotheism), Sugar or Sugaar (stress is distributed or in the final syllable and has no relation to English "sugar" but rather means "male snake": suge-ar, or "fire-flame": su-gar) is by no means any trickster nor deceiver but half of perpetual creation, which mythologically may happen at the local sacred mountain, maybe every friday night or some of them anyhow, when Sugaar and Mari (Morrigan in the Celtic tradition, also subsumed under an Indoeuropean pantheon, Gaia in the Greek cosmogony, where Gaia still translates in Basque as "the matter" and "the capability") have sex (symbolically represented in the Akelarre or "witches' sabbath" by the faithful) and reproduce reality, maybe as Odei, the storm cloud, one of their sons, who then fertilizes Earth with rain (and occasionally "punishes" with hail). Sugaar only becomes a "trickster" or "deceiver" because of the dominant religion's misunderstanding about his real nature. For example Loki is said to have become a doe and got pregnant what is presented as ridiculous for the patriarchal ultra-manly mindset, or similarly has Thor cross-dressing as a woman to negotiate with the king of the giants (who is anyhow Loki as well) and duel against Jormungard in disguise (son of Loki but also Loki himself in his snake/dragon version). The patriarchs feel that the Dragon God pulls their leg with all that trickstery but he's rather trying to teach them a lesson or two. To no avail maybe but then will come Ragnarök anyhow. The problem with Jung seems to be that he's still trapped in the Patriarchal mindset, even Freud was, while Reich was not... yet that cost him dearly.
I have always been amazed by how Jung was influenced by Nietzsche. I do believe that these types of thinkers are connected by some arcane think red thread and somehow they follow the work of the previous like it was just the continuation, a sort of intergenerational connection and understanding. They are like the Voyager satellite for the Human kind, sent in the deeps on the conscious to explore the unknown and the frontiers of what is to be human.
Introverted intuitive psychological types. That’s what people like Jung, Nietzsche, Jordan Peterson and Plato have in common. They’re looking into the depths of things and organising them into a hierarchy, they serve to point to the rest of the populace what’s most important; typically God.
Little about Jung rings true for me. I don't find the archetypes fundamental or universal at all. He's certainly a creative artist, but as a psychologist, he's a collection of projections and just-so stories. The only value I find in him is reading his Red Book journals to see his attempts at self psychoanalysis and therapy, which, again, are more interesting for their creativity than as anything scientific or useful. He's a far cry from Nietzche. Plus, he's CIA ;)
How you reached your level of understanding Nietchze and Jung. I am a major in psychology we didn’t study Jung. Did you study philosophy in university.
"Carl Gustave Jung was a student of Freud," * What is often overlooked is Jung was a 'student' of Nietzsche for longer than Freud, especially after their break. Also the influence bleeds from the page itself - As Jung said you read more about the therapist, reading their books, than you learn of their therapies.
Nietchze said essentially the same of philosophers. Spot on.
Freud was an ignorant, dark and empty man imo. He lacked spirituality. Jung didnt. He acknowledged the human soul and thats what makes him greater. Freud has something sinister about him and Jung was kinda ..."warm".
@@allenandrews2380 Nietchze was clever he was the hit and lure type of character but then he surprises you with those he mentions to hate you would have to read their work just to understand Nietchze so bad publicity is good in his case. He fooled me but I can't claim to know everything about his work just that he is decisive.
@@calistafalcontailfrom what I have heard from Jung is like water he gets hot and cold if he freezes he can melt back to water if that makes sense.
@@calistafalcontailFreud was a subversive Jew
As a depth psychologist of 30+ years, I am impressed by and appreciative of your understanding and clear delivery of Jung's ideas. And I will be recommending your channel. Two critiques, however: Archetypes are at the core of complexes but are not complexes themselves, or sub-personalities (which is a complex). They exist independently of a person, or personality, and as you note, are certainly more powerful. And I wished you'd noted that the anima/animus was Jung's most time- and culturally-relative concept. In a sense you do this by focusing primarily on the anima, as Jung did, because had less understanding of the female psyche (as he would admit) and wanted to create a symmetric pair, an equivalent for women. Currently it seems more accurate to speak of "anims," with the understanding that men and women are influenced by both the anim(a) and anim(us), relative to how feminine or masculine their psyche is. For example, gay men are likely to have a very different relationship to the Feminine than straight men, particularly in the erotic dimension. But as Jung would be the first to say, his ideas are not Truth, and they certainly evolved over the course of his life.
Thank you for the feedback!
This is the best intro to Jung that I’ve ever heard. I will be sure to tune into more of your lectures. Thanks!
All thinkers (including scientists) will always argue with one another in trying to intellectually understand how everything turns, as long as they shove intuition to the role of a caboose instead of the locomotive.
Once we intuitively understand the workings of "IT ALL," we stop talking about it because it's impossible to intellectualize such a knowing. It's like writing hundreds of dissertations on how a rose smells without ever smelling it.
And when we finally smell it, we glide on the "unbearable lightness of being," as Kundera would so beautifully phrase it; without the battle and the splitting headache. Thank you for your fantastically disarming way of exploring all the philosophical insides.
You're what Marx would call an idealist, I guess.
"Science", like its cousin words "scissors" "schism", "scythe", "scar", "scrape", "scoop"...even the ancient "scindere": means to split or take away from a "whole". Science by its nature is the splitting of whole concepts into reductive parts...and at the very first slice, something fundamental is lost. Jung and many before and after him recognized that, and mysticism including almost all ancient wisdom literature is the attempt to heal, remedy or at least challenge that divide...Zero and infinity are the same entity, and within/among/because of that we are experiencing in the eternal now....but don't tell that to someone who's addicted to splitting everything into divisions and reductions, whether they're dualists haunted by the evil of their own shadow, or atheists angry at the fact that the duality was a lie but still caught in the construct. At the same time, all the stories and myths we are drawn to usually reinforce the stark divisions and dualities...they are impetus for us, a force that draws us to action...the adventure is in trying to join the division...not simply realizing suddenly that the division was a false image we created ourselves. That's why we must allow each other to come to terms with our divisions ourselves...we can't force-feed transcendence to others, they have to swallow it in their own way at their own time.
You need experience rather than wrote and talk for the thousands years.
But supposing your view is the right one, that ineffable knowledge must be able to inform how we regard ourselves and our relations and actions in the mundane world.
Beautifully worded about a concept that cannot be explained in words.❤
Man, I’ve been soaking up every video I can find about Jung these past 2 months. That quote about the shadow and the masses absolutely gave me chills. What an exhilarating frame of mind to approach humanity
Jordan Peterson, am I right or what?
Anyone read Women who run with Wolves...
are you old? often see old ppl get amazed like they dumb
@@BlueCoore sure, I’m old and dumb and you’re phrasing your comment like some alpaca headed zoomer. No moron, when you live in the Midwest and steeped in Presbyterian dogma.. these ideologies and archetypes are considered heretical. So no, the masses that lived like I have for the past 20 years and are discovering these ideas are just understanding Jung’s framework.
@@BlueCooreif nothing amazes you then how can you find any joy in life
The Ego and the Super-ego walk into a bar. The bartender says "I'm going to need to see some Id."
😂😂😂
Super-Ego is the crown chakra, Blocked by ego attachment
Ego is the third eye chakra, Blocked by illusions
Id is the throat chakra, Blocked by lies
it is ridiculous that modern psychologists just renamed ancient concepts to advance their career...
@@Xander27-k3d Yeah it really is a process of westerners rediscovering things that older civilizations discovered thousands of years ago.
@@Xander27-k3d Blocked by lies, interesting concept.
Shame on you !!! 😉
Probably the best online lecture on Jung I've heard, I'll need to listen to it many time to capture the rich detail. Thanks for the work.
Well done.
I'm a hermit. After watching the turkeys in this valley for a few decades, I came up with the theory that memory can be inherited. I then saw researchers who studied ravens show that the grandchildren of the original tested were afraid of the masks by which their grandparents were scared. A researcher in NYC noticed the grandchildren of mice, whose grandparents were shock while eating almonds were afraid to eat almonds. The grandchildren of people who were starving during WW2 had strange metabolisms. Dr. Finkel from the museum in London saw evidence that the fear of ghosts could be inherited. Finally, Jung saw a great deal of MY theory. lol (isn't an instinct a type of inherited memory?)
This is only a small part of my life long study of our brains. I believe that we are obsessed with problem solving because our weak bodied ancestors had to problem solve to eat every day. Those who didn't problem solve died. Only those who were obsessed lived. It all ties to food. People unknowingly attack a black friday sale as those it were a herd of deer.
We are so obsessed with problem solving that everything you own or do relates to it. You watch movies to see how others problem solve. You watch or play sports or any game because it is a problem. You even solve problems when you die with life insurance.
Without knowing you, I can tell you that in every flood, famine, plague, illness, disease, etc. not a single one of your direct ancestors died as children. Had they, you would not have been born. I think it is amazing to be alive.
"Not everybody has virtues, but everybody has the low instincts, the basic primitive caveman suggestibility, the suspicions and vicious traits of the savage." - Jung
In every political system, people vote for their "shadow". This is not unique to a particular people either. The masses want to express this side as a means to devolve any kind of responsibility because the masses are simply beyond reason or principles and have always been trained to have their disgusts stimulated while being blind to it. Being in such an unconscious state makes them blind to their shadows. This is also why the masses are so clueless, even when political/social problems are obvious. This is also why we see so many who are supposedly “anti establishment” later promote the establishment. They merely hated who was in power at the time, but in their hearts they craved to wield that power. So they were never anti establishment, they wanted to be the establishment. Seeking political power (authority) in order to solve problems makes the common man detestable.
I am absolutely on accord with you,but that obsession must be fulfilled through history untill we see the inutility of it
I always say our rulers are our measure. "As we wind on down the road. Our shadows taller than our souls. There walks a lady we all know. Who shines white light and wants to show. How everything still turns to gold. And if you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last. When all are one and one are all. To be a rock and not to roll...And she's buying a stairway to heaven..." She's our reflection but we pretend she is the helper of the serpent in our deception but we named the serpent assigning it's nature at the time of creation.
Dude, thanks for all the podcasts. I’d say your stuff are among the best content on youtube currently. I usually dont comment on anything, but i just wanted to let you know that what you are doing is valuable and meaningful. Keep it up man, you are an inspiration! Lots of love from Finland! ❤
Helps us to try to be more patient with each other. Will of thegood of the other
Not gonna lie, i will need to listen to this on repeat at least 3x.
Same and take notes too 😂
It’s difficult to fully encapsulate exactly how much I appreciate all of your work. You’ve made otherwise quite difficult ideas and concepts more easily accessible for the non-academic and dilettante. Thank you.
wow Jung is what got me into Nietzsche! Excited for this episode!
Nietzsche got me into Jung. Lol
I’ve always had the desire to get into Jung’s work. I’ve read a few texts by him but for some reason cannot get behind most of his ideas no matter how much I want to. I love Nietzsche and love your commentary on him. Best on youtube for sure! Looking forward to this one. Thanks for all the great work you do!
I recommend Psychology and Alchemy. It’s a difficult but rewarding book, that will be valuable even if you agree with none of Jung’s ideas: as a historical, psychological study if nothing else, almost a work of anthropology or philology
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"The Redbook" Libra Novus edited and with an Introduction by Sonu Shamdasani and other updated writings even today.
Psychology and Alchemy and his book on UFOs are really good. AION is another one but deep and jumps from thought to thought.
I suggest you should start to write your dream, until it's started to appear as an episodic story. Just describe and inquire what you had experience during the dream and reflect on current or persisted problem in your life. Familiarize yourself with the imaginary until you are aware it's meaning. Then look at Jung ideas on archetype.
Finally I’ve been waiting for this one for ages.
samee, hope to see much more on Jung
I've been waiting for aions.
You’ll be pleasantly surprised next week
@@untimelyreflections you’re one of the only few people I listen to for these topics as you are well read and approach things from a distance, and not a set agenda or trying to sell something. You don’t infect people with complexes.
@@ChucksExotics Waiting so long im no longer a jung man
Ive been giving myself a crash course on the philosophy of Jung and this was the best intro that Ive come across! Intellectually stimulating while expressing these ideas in an easy to understand way. I'd love to see part 2 of this!!
been waiting for you to get into jung! thank you brother
Holy shit, the king has started his Jung pilgrimage!
So pumped for this, you are the best!
Finally! Im so stoked for this season. Im currently reading The Portable Jung.
As a reader of DH Lawrence many people know of his Lady Chatterleys Lover, but in my opinion Psychoanalysis and the Unconscious & Fantasia of the Unconscious are His Best Writings. As in the case of Herman Hesse the Most Important Book of His is Magister Ludi or The Glass Bead Game. Jack London is known for Call of the Wild but his Best Book was The Star Rover . As Rudyard Kipling was made famous for Jungle Books and all the other tales he wrote, The Mark of the Beast and other Horror Tales. C G Jung is known for many things but The Undiscovered Self and The Dilemma of the Individual in Modern Society has always been my Favorite. I have a High School education but along with other jobs I was a Respiratory Therapist from 1972-1986 than I worked for the LADWP as an Electrical Station Operator for 30 years were I spent 17 years in the Owen’s Valley by Bishop California. Retired in 2016 and moved to Carson City Nv. Thank you for taking the time to read my writings. God Bless
I will take your recommendation of "The Undiscovered Self...." as my next read.
Jung's journey within himself to find an academic perspective of the soul and how we can understand this part of ourselves to become a better person and engage these beings is sorely lacking in this world.
I think Jung's framework of ideas make the most sense of any psych theory. It has a consistency in life that is unmatched.
I don't find his archetypes to be fundamental or universal at all. It's certainly a creative story, but mostly nonsense.
I would love to see a deep dive into Jung! Great video! Great content! Thank you!
May we please do a text revision and study of Erich Neumann's 'History and Origin of the Unconscious' - its definately worth the hype. Or Von Franz' 'Way of Individuation'. I love Jung; but Jungians can be just as fascinating.
Most informative introduction to Jung I have ever come across. I've read several of his books and dabbled in the practices for a few years now and still learned some new things, and appreciated your insight.
I am also just getting into Nietzsche and your videos there have been fundamental to my understanding. Much thanks sir, keep up the good work.
I'm very greatful to have found your channel, thanks for sharing!
My favorite “philosopher”
You have a gift for language. Thank you, not only for the fascinating information, but also, the delivery.
This is the best channel. Well done!
This was really helpful so far and I’m only half way in. Thank you for a great teaching.
My shadow followings me everywhere in my path. Love this channel!
25:26 "there I am the object of every subject"
I feel that
Professor Ricahrd Bishop worked widely on different aspects of analytical psychology and its place in intellectual history. His books examine different aspects of analytical psychology and its place in intellectual history. His books examine the history of ideas with an emphasis on Jung, Nietzsche, and Ludwig Klages ( Jung is saying the great- grandmother the basard son of Gerta. Is it true or not- Jung said it is an annoying legend.
Professor Richard Bishop is the editor of Numerous Volumes, including Jung in contests.
1. The Persistence of Myth as symbolic Form.
2. A Companion to Goethe's Faust & the Descent of the Soul & the Archaic.
3. Jung's Answer to Job
4. Nietzsche's Anti-Christ
5.The 2 volume series Analytical Psychology & German Classic Aesthetics
6. His latest book, Reading Plato Through Jung: Why The Third Becomes the Fourth
I can't wait until you get to Jung's letters.
So many writers contribute the updates to Carl Jung, Jungian analysts, and many may disagree. What an amazing adventure in one of greatest minds of C.J. Jung's writings.
It was fortunate that the family kept his blackbooks and paintings in a bank vault until our world could awaken more.
The time was ready especially now.
Thank you, great lecture.
Yo. Are you going into full on Jung like you did Nietchze?!!!!😊 Either way. You are the best man!!!!
Next week we’ll have another Jung episode, but after that we’re wrapping the season with more Nietzsche. But I’ll definitely return to Jung in the future. The freud/jung letters for sure
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Good.
@@untimelyreflections oh man I was hoping for a ten episode playlist on Jung from you
Please do more podcasts on other German thinkers. Jung, Heidegger, Hegel, Kant, Spengler, etc
More Schopenhauer please..
@@emZee1994 100% agree with you..
Damn bros doing carl jung now???? That's wild super excited for this
Thanks for your lectures man Ive learned so much from this channel, I absolutely love it. Keep up the good work
This is fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Keep it up
Great!
Timestamps would be good
Tramp -stamps are for those of a right brain deficit.
omg! is there an exam at the end ????
Excellent content and narration!
Nice, was waiting for his introduction on this channel
This is a wonderfully lucid account of Jung!
Have you ever considered doing a video on Don Quixote/Cervantes? I think it could make for a really interesting discussion
Man, I could not be more happier. I was just wondering the other day it would be amazing if you would have read Jung and posted about his ideas.
Absolutely amazing synopsis of the man and his life, great job working on this video very much appreciated.
Jung is much more of a dangerously sharp thinker than it feels like you give him credit for
Very thorough, good vid, thanks.
Whoa… how the hell are you doing this? Your talks are better than most professors. You seem to be doing a an “Alan Watts” or a “Dan Carlin” move here, like you know exactly what you want to say seemingly without any notes or practice in a classroom.
I’ll stop gushing here but with two requests;
1) Can you spend some time on Heidegger? I think you can nail it.
2) Can you mention anywhere something about your method for putting these talks together !! I’m interested in your process as a communicator.
Thanks.
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Hi this is brilliant and I will need to listen loads of times.
Is this Michael Millarman.
I will argue against a materialist approach to archetypes. You have misunderstood Jung. By the last part of his life, he explicitly stated a larger connection with universal consciousness. I would refer you to "decoding Jung's metaphysics", by the philosopher and scientist, Bernardo Kastrup. 😊 13:50
@@MichaelJones-ek3vx I would agree with you to the deepest extent of arctype Jungian in another words certain arcytypes says something about the truth with certain degrees or perspectives toward others outwardly but never the less they remains heavy pointers,truth itself can't be pointed at you become it for a while as a whole or not because paradoxically it says nothing about it is the being potentially in timeless spaceless state of statelessness,that is where all words and thinking rest speechless.
whenever Jung describes a dream one of his patients told him, I get a feeling that one of them is lying about the incredible details of the dream that fit nicely into his explanations and theories
I’ll go you one better on your assumption: All academics lie and all research is tainted and flawed just to keep the grant money flowing.
THANK YOU for uploading this Metaphysical Gem!! ✨️ 💎 ✨️
Anyone read Women Who run with the Wolves? Jungian explained? So happy to have found this ty
You have a wonderful talent for research and presentation. Thank you for sharing your talents with us.
Coherent and efficient. Thank you.
There was a little red book i once took out from the library - the preface the best insight into jung by jung and the author of the book. It was a collection of his best essays i believe , and his comments were weitten post red-book. I highly highly reccomend you tp read it if you can find it.
"Your soul doesn't need your wisdom. It needs your wrecklessness" - Carl Jung
You gotta read John Beebe's matchup of Jungian archetypes with Jungian cognitive functions.
Very glad you put this one together.
I've been deeply influenced by both Nietzsche and Jung in the last 4 years and often wondered how Nietzsche would have handled Jung's criticisms of him and his work.
I suspect he (Nietzsche) would have had no trouble defending himself, as his sharpness of wit and intellect was superior to Jung's, not to mention that the roots of Jung's psychology were a direct result of Nietzsche's influence upon him.
Thank you again for the excellent, thought provoking work, Keegan.
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This was great. Thank you.
Well done, I’m looking forward to the Jungian analysis of our beloved tortured genius. Suggestion, how about an episode on the master/slave morality using the famous chapter from Dostoevsky’s Brothers Karamozov- the Grand Inquisitor. I reread it today, and was struck by brother Ivan’s parallel to Nietzsche’s theory. I felt a deeper understanding of that hypothetical tale due to a better understanding of Nietzsche via reading his Twilight, Beyond, Genealogy, etc, and- of course- your excellent podcast- my God that content rescues me from the tedium of boredom at my job. Gracias
Danke!
I hate to sound like Bill and Ted from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures - but this is really EXCELLENT!!
@Dont_have_to_agree - lol. I'm sure I did subconsciously 😂
My reality was something that given and followed. Of lower class, blind is without option. It is truly mind blowing that I now can experience such things that only a past life memory may have offered. I am not blind. My vision is of spiritual nature, for it is from the heart that my understanding of complexity comes. Sometimes I cry freely. Overwhelmed with personal knowing, a moment of brilliance I am alive. For once blind from blindness I see. A reverence for this awareness of life. I am my shadow as I am my light. To taste wholeness brings many abilities of being most importantly is a man capable. For what is a man if he is not aware of his nature. Capable is full feeling of man's purpose. In my new awareness I walk in my power. The power to be from becoming. I am a man.
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Ongoing greatness and mastery🔥
Hello, can I ask what mic and editing software you use for your work? Thank you !
We all seem to fall under the factors we make or given to Leaving us with a sum total of reflection from projections
THE WORLD LOVES THE DREAM BUT HATES THE DREAMER...IT HURT BUT IT DIDN'T STOP ME.
Best say of Jung's archetypes. Well done 😊
28:15 mins into this reminds me of goro akechi
ALSO THIS WAS SO INTERESTING
im working on this art project for school and i took some inspiration from soem of yung's theories and omg the more i learn, the more things come full circle and further support my motifs and meanings and stuff AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Awesome stuff 🙏
Dude!!! I just saw you guys at Whitewater Tavern! Remember the guy in the smoking area that said you looked familiar? Now I know why!
Woah! That's crazy. What a coincidence.
@@untimelyreflections ikr! Been subbed for about a year and a half, just never really delved into your music related content and only caught a couple IRL posts. You honestly lucked out, I would have talked your ear off about philosophy if I'd realized who I was talking to 😂 you guys played a killer show, y'all gotta come back to AR after hiatus!
@@thehermit_777 My new band Slumbering Sun will definitely be back in the near future!
The Whitewater sounds rad, tech bros abound perhaps.
@@numbersix8919 it's a sleazy dive bar. you've been commenting a bunch with some wild ideas of what this channel is, maybe chill out a little bit
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I speculate sometimes that information has its own natural laws, like the physical realm has the strong and weak nuclear force, etc. And one of the forces in information is entropy, and further, it has periods of time and also physical scopes, from our perspective, when it is much more prevalent than other places or times. For example, at my home today several completely unrelated things failed or broke within a 12 hour period. I think this phenomenon gives rise to the idea its the function of a concious agent, or "gremlin" . Im certain those whose professions are, to generalize, antientropic, such as keeping I.T. power generation, vehicles, large systems of any kind, from failure, have observed that entropy clusters. I dont know why. But as someone who has spent a career in industrial support and repair Ive seen it many times. One particular system may be absurdly disfunctional for a period of time while an identical but seperate system has no such affliction. It affects specific machines or areas, and has periods of time when it occurs. It can also be related to a particular goal or endpoint of a process, where many unrelated things go wrong that prevent completion or success.
What is your name? (your voice sounds like Scott, the NewAge guy).
With Freud, you need an analyst to help you see your repressed content. Whereas Jung gives you tools like the shadow self to help you see evidence of your own repressed content. Is it fair to say this?
You really are amazing, thank you
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Thanks for the overview, after having been introduced to this a bit more formally it's become apparent to me that I don't care about psychology as a field whatsoever.
"Freud is an atheist"
That's why, to Freud, everything boiled down to base drives like procreation.
That said, Jung was right. There certainly are archetypes that repeat over and over through history, and with knowledge of the Zodiac, Jung's archetypes are much easier to understand!
😂 you're sick if you think all atheist likes simplistic understanding
24:31-30:18 Projection
Projection is revealed most easily when we begin to work with our shadow archetypes. Look on line in comments to react to someone who angers you or whatever. Then, find those same feelings within yourself. Self observation is essential to self understanding. 💥
Deep and detailed analysis always
What if one does not have dreams? I've met more than a few .
This may sound bananas, but this was me until I saw someone and supplemented with magnesium, zinc and a b complex. Then I began seeing I had had dreams (and began remembering)
Please do more Jung Videos! Thanks for this!
This is excellent
Great Video :)
Thank you very much for this presentation in such wonderful voice. Please may I point out, Soul in German is not pronounced " seªl" but rather " Sèèlé". Thank you.
First video about this topic 😮
27:00 instantly thought of Vladimir Kramnik and “The Process” (tm) 💀
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Have you ever heard the esoteric interpretation of the Trinity in many religions being an allegory for the psyche? The father being the thoughts ( brain stem and cerebellum, responsible for survival and getting s*** done divorced from emotion, the originator of thoughts therefore creator God of our thinking) the holy Spirit being the mother (limbic system, emotional mind, the "spirit" in which we do things) and the Son being the balanced hemispheres of the neocortex- the activated pineal gland (born of the mother divorced or removed from the father, hence the Virgin in the Christian Trinity). So in summary, for a person to reach their higher state of consciousness it takes using the compassionate/spiritual mind to keep the base instincts at Bay giving birth to the balanced mind leading to an understanding of how to do right moral action in the world.. the "savior" of mankind. I really love your stuff btw, Your channel should be massive
Love your peeling of the onion!
No one mentions i ching when they talk about jung. 😂😂😂
Meaning? What is I ching?
Is there as great minds in present time,as in 1800's for example ? If there are such ideas/thinkers,what do they say ?
Mildly interesting. The guy is basically describing the Ancient Neolithic Religion but as subordinated to and "cancelled" by the Patriarchal Order (be it Indoeuropean or Semitic, i.e. Judeo-Christo-Muslim). He doesn't seem to actually have understood the whole implications of all this, did he?
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@@samuelpenninga1468 - What do you mean? "Tricksterization", "deceiver-ization" or just "demonization" is part of subsumption to the Indoeuropean and Semitic narrative of the patriarchal sky god (and court). The real Snake God (male side of the gender-binary Neolithic monotheism), Sugar or Sugaar (stress is distributed or in the final syllable and has no relation to English "sugar" but rather means "male snake": suge-ar, or "fire-flame": su-gar) is by no means any trickster nor deceiver but half of perpetual creation, which mythologically may happen at the local sacred mountain, maybe every friday night or some of them anyhow, when Sugaar and Mari (Morrigan in the Celtic tradition, also subsumed under an Indoeuropean pantheon, Gaia in the Greek cosmogony, where Gaia still translates in Basque as "the matter" and "the capability") have sex (symbolically represented in the Akelarre or "witches' sabbath" by the faithful) and reproduce reality, maybe as Odei, the storm cloud, one of their sons, who then fertilizes Earth with rain (and occasionally "punishes" with hail).
Sugaar only becomes a "trickster" or "deceiver" because of the dominant religion's misunderstanding about his real nature. For example Loki is said to have become a doe and got pregnant what is presented as ridiculous for the patriarchal ultra-manly mindset, or similarly has Thor cross-dressing as a woman to negotiate with the king of the giants (who is anyhow Loki as well) and duel against Jormungard in disguise (son of Loki but also Loki himself in his snake/dragon version). The patriarchs feel that the Dragon God pulls their leg with all that trickstery but he's rather trying to teach them a lesson or two. To no avail maybe but then will come Ragnarök anyhow.
The problem with Jung seems to be that he's still trapped in the Patriarchal mindset, even Freud was, while Reich was not... yet that cost him dearly.
I have always been amazed by how Jung was influenced by Nietzsche. I do believe that these types of thinkers are connected by some arcane think red thread and somehow they follow the work of the previous like it was just the continuation, a sort of intergenerational connection and understanding. They are like the Voyager satellite for the Human kind, sent in the deeps on the conscious to explore the unknown and the frontiers of what is to be human.
Introverted intuitive psychological types. That’s what people like Jung, Nietzsche, Jordan Peterson and Plato have in common. They’re looking into the depths of things and organising them into a hierarchy, they serve to point to the rest of the populace what’s most important; typically God.
Marvellous thankyou !
Little about Jung rings true for me. I don't find the archetypes fundamental or universal at all. He's certainly a creative artist, but as a psychologist, he's a collection of projections and just-so stories. The only value I find in him is reading his Red Book journals to see his attempts at self psychoanalysis and therapy, which, again, are more interesting for their creativity than as anything scientific or useful. He's a far cry from Nietzche. Plus, he's CIA ;)
How delightful! 😮
Grateful
Ego and Archetype the podcast?
How you reached your level of understanding Nietchze and Jung.
I am a major in psychology we didn’t study Jung. Did you study philosophy in university.
Is this Steven Hicks speaking. Sounds just like him. He did some documentary on the Neitchze and the Nazis.
I think if you listen to my interview with Steven Hicks, you’ll see our voices are quite different