I’ve done this four or five times this job can seem overwhelming, but it’s not once you get into it. It’s good use cardboard to put all your bolts in the cardboard. You can draw a map and place all your bolts on your map made my life easy the newer clips come off easy. Did anybody notice that?
There is no need to take the phasers off to replace the timing chain all you have to do is pull the intake phaser solenoids and the chain comes right off... I just finished mine up the other day and more importantly new bolts must be used when the phasers are removed it appears you reused the old bolts... Of course I changed the phasers while I was in there but I didn't pull them off until after the chain was off
I have a '18 ecoboost and the phasers are going and it makes a horrible rattle noise when you start it up. Just got it from the dealer a month ago and they wont fix it (taking them to court now) so im trying to see how bad of a job it is, after wztching this... helllllllll no 😅
I thought I could get mine done in a weekend after doing 2 different water pumps on nearly identical 3.5L explorer and Taurus’ - of course nothing went right, couple trips to town and here I am about to work on it again the next weekend 😂
Why does it take about 8 hours to pull everything out and another 20 hours to install everything correctly; sounds about right! Will it Run just as good as a New Vehicle? So many components to be reinstalled and hopefully nothing leaks after the RTV is applied! You would think Ford would re-engineer a more easier engine than the present one! After everything is done a Road Test is Required that all the systems are operating correctly! Way to go FORD!
Hey everyone. I have a 2014 Taurus SHO 3.5 TT with 92k on it.. I have the spark plugs(Bosch 9697 iridium) and I’m pretty sure they are to originals. Other than the plugs, what else do I need to get to do the job? Do I simply pull the plugs and put new ones in? Or is there more to it than that? And is the side closest to the windshield tough to do? Thanks
We were mainly addressing the chain noise issue. The phasers weren't messing up at the time, but the exhaust cam phasers ended up getting changed down the road.
Is the process the same for a 5.0? And do you have to remove the motor to replace the oil pump? I'm having a shop replace cam.phasets and timing chain for my 2014, ty
What necessitated the replacement of the timing chain? Was it getting stretched? We’re there lots of codes? What were the symptoms? I feel like this is common on eco boost. Please correct me if I’m wrong
This video helped and this truck is like mine at the moment it’s in the shop for the same issues water pump and radiator noise and leaking gaskets are what’s being fixed all in all good truck when it’s working good
Hey man great video. I have 2013 f150 3.5 eb. Gonna do this same job. should I change the vvt's while im in there. I know there was a second tsb that was put out stating that the vvt's should be changed as well. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
@@shawnkmorse I need for the reply I'm wondering if they didn't replace everything like they said they did I figure a year would be too soon for it to happen again but I guess I'll do it myself and make sure it gets done right. Thank you for the video
Hi Sir I don't have the special locking tools for my 2013 ford explorer 3.5 engine and am trying to replace my water pump. But I noticed something that made me stop to seek help before I continue. Immediately I took my timing chain off the left side phaser I saw the phaser turning, why is that. Have i damaged my engine? Need your help please.
@@baako2002 It shouldn't be moving if the battery is disconnected why was it turning? If you turned it back on and there isn't a noise then you are probably fine. As long as you put it back together the same.
@@shawnkmorse ok,thanks,yea my son has a 2013 ecoboost 3.5 f150, replaced vaccuum pump gasket, now valve cover has small seepage,very minimal, should i change vvt seals and spark plug tube seals also?
it took me and my buddy about 8 hours total, outside in the rain. it was intimidating at first, but it ended up being super easy, and way cheaper than taking it to the dealership.
@@andryjcisneros2334 The trucks are much easier especially if its not in the rustbelt. If you're doing a rustbelt SUV with this engine its a whole different story.
@@shawnkmorse oh damn I’d say she did you good. My cold start rattle started at 37k more frequent now at 70k dealership said it’s probably the phasers and it doesn’t hurt anything so I’d be fine running it until it throws a code 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve done this four or five times this job can seem overwhelming, but it’s not once you get into it. It’s good use cardboard to put all your bolts in the cardboard. You can draw a map and place all your bolts on your map made my life easy the newer clips come off easy. Did anybody notice that?
“It only takes 7 mins on TH-cam, I can handle it”
Not me 6 month into it 💀😂
Also, the pipes eco-boost pipes on the left you can kind of just move them out of the way cause it’s just a bitch to get them on and off
I’ve done this four or five times this job can seem overwhelming, but it’s not once you get into it. It’s good use cardboard to put all your bolts in the cardboard. You can draw a map and place all your bolts on your map made my life easy the newer clips come off easy. Did anybody notice that?
I needed a beer after watching this video. Just the thought of attempting this stresses me out.
It was tough, but me and a buddy did it in one weekend outside in the rain
There is no need to take the phasers off to replace the timing chain all you have to do is pull the intake phaser solenoids and the chain comes right off... I just finished mine up the other day and more importantly new bolts must be used when the phasers are removed it appears you reused the old bolts... Of course I changed the phasers while I was in there but I didn't pull them off until after the chain was off
Trying to make sure I order the right part for my 2012 3.5 platinum F150 time in chain belt kit
I have a '18 ecoboost and the phasers are going and it makes a horrible rattle noise when you start it up. Just got it from the dealer a month ago and they wont fix it (taking them to court now) so im trying to see how bad of a job it is, after wztching this... helllllllll no 😅
I thought I could get mine done in a weekend after doing 2 different water pumps on nearly identical 3.5L explorer and Taurus’ - of course nothing went right, couple trips to town and here I am about to work on it again the next weekend 😂
It was a frantic race to get everything done in the weekend
Mine is acting up a little thanks for the advice brother.
Why does it take about 8 hours to pull everything out and another 20 hours to install everything correctly; sounds about right! Will it Run just as good as a New Vehicle? So many components to be reinstalled and hopefully nothing leaks after the RTV is applied! You would think Ford would re-engineer a more easier engine than the present one! After everything is done a Road Test is Required that all the systems are operating correctly! Way to go FORD!
That timeframe is about right. Yes. It will run like new
And even after all that the check engine still won’t tell you when the oil pressure drops
Literally a law of the universe that when you fix something, something else will break. Replace the timing chain and now the water pump goes out.
Same here
Highly recommend replacing water pump during this process
I did
Hey everyone. I have a 2014 Taurus SHO 3.5 TT with 92k on it.. I have the spark plugs(Bosch 9697 iridium) and I’m pretty sure they are to originals. Other than the plugs, what else do I need to get to do the job? Do I simply pull the plugs and put new ones in? Or is there more to it than that? And is the side closest to the windshield tough to do? Thanks
With it being Front Wheel Drive, I’m not exactly sure
Where did you buy the parts online or a parts store?
@@Anthrax_G_ at the time, the local Napa store
I have a 2013 ford f-150, upon replacing the timing chain, is it necessary or recommended to replace the cam phasers?
It’s not necessary, but more than likely they will fail sooner than later
I’ve heard you should replace all the phasers curious why you didn’t I mean I wouldn’t if I didn’t have to either how do you know if you should
We were mainly addressing the chain noise issue. The phasers weren't messing up at the time, but the exhaust cam phasers ended up getting changed down the road.
Could we get a list of the tools you needed to complete this? (specifically any special tools)
Matco FCHT371a for the cam hold down tools from the Matco Truck, and Performance Tools W89712 Damper puller from summit
Should use Ultra Gray
Is the process the same for a 5.0? And do you have to remove the motor to replace the oil pump? I'm having a shop replace cam.phasets and timing chain for my 2014, ty
I honestly have no clue, I’m not familiar with the coyote platform
What's normally the recommended miles to replace the timing chain, I have the 3.5 with 83,000 miles on it?
This truck had over 400,000 miles on it before the chain started making noise. But I’ve seen some that needed changing around 125k
Nice detail video also a nice view from your house to the lake.👍
How do you get the front cover off after all the bolts are out. Just start prying on it?
Yes for me the hardest part was the water pump seal it's in the center of cover behind water pump so unscrew water pump before praying
Great video!! Appreciate the help!
I Have a 2014 ford explore sport.
3.5 v6 is the engine tha same ?? As on this video..
Yes it is
Actually theres one difference..only 2 phasers on the 3.5 eco explorer
Thanks! I am having to do this soon.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Would love to see the actual install
What necessitated the replacement of the timing chain? Was it getting stretched? We’re there lots of codes? What were the symptoms? I feel like this is common on eco boost. Please correct me if I’m wrong
Lots of noise on start up because the chains were stretched
How many hours did you actually put in this job?
@@coryfreeman398 probably about 12 total. I had never done this before and at the time, there weren’t that many helpful videos about doing this job.
This video helped and this truck is like mine at the moment it’s in the shop for the same issues water pump and radiator noise and leaking gaskets are what’s being fixed all in all good truck when it’s working good
Is there any way to “reset” the timing? My chain moved a good bit and I’m afraid the timingwillbeoff
You need to figure out why the chain moved and fixed that problem first. Then put a new chain on and line your marks up.
Also my Truck codes P054A and P054C is that because of my timing ⛓ 🔗 chain? Please any advice 🙏 would help
Sounds like you have cam phaser issues
Hey man great video. I have 2013 f150 3.5 eb. Gonna do this same job. should I change the vvt's while im in there. I know there was a second tsb that was put out stating that the vvt's should be changed as well. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
If I had to do it all over again, I definitely would.
Change all replaceable parts while you are in it. My recommendation
do you need those special cam holding tools?
Unfortunately, yes
What brand of timing chain did use and cam phasers?
Motorcraft
Did you use something to hold the cams?
Yes, the cam retaining tool from Matco
I had mine replaced under warranty last October and almost a year to the date it's doing it again what could be causing this?
Tensioners or phasers
@@shawnkmorse I need for the reply I'm wondering if they didn't replace everything like they said they did I figure a year would be too soon for it to happen again but I guess I'll do it myself and make sure it gets done right. Thank you for the video
so it didn’t start to make that sound until 350k miles?
Correct. We have another one that started about the same time.
Thanxs man great video
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback
How often do those fail in the 3.5L thinking you purchase a 2013 f150 platinum with 181000. Go for it or not.
If you don't hear chain slap on initial start up, you are good. Thanks for watching!
@@shawnkmorse the seller decided to remote start the vehicle so I couldn't hear it
I would want to hear a cold start before I purchased it
Hi Sir I don't have the special locking tools for my 2013 ford explorer 3.5 engine and am trying to replace my water pump. But I noticed something that made me stop to seek help before I continue. Immediately I took my timing chain off the left side phaser I saw the phaser turning, why is that. Have i damaged my engine?
Need your help please.
Did you disconnect the battery first?
@@shawnkmorse yes I did
@@baako2002 then I am not sure
@@baako2002 It shouldn't be moving if the battery is disconnected why was it turning?
If you turned it back on and there isn't a noise then you are probably fine. As long as you put it back together the same.
how hard is it to change pass side valve cover gasket?
Passenger side is easy, just make sure you get the right one.
@@shawnkmorse ok,thanks,yea my son has a 2013 ecoboost 3.5 f150, replaced vaccuum pump gasket, now valve cover has small seepage,very minimal, should i change vvt seals and spark plug tube seals also?
@@timbales4820 yes
Question how much does a job like this cost?
The dealer will want around $2,500 to do this because they will replace every nut, bolt, o-ring etc
Cool shit
How many hours does this take start to finish? Thinking about doing this repair myself but it sounds very intimidating.
it took me and my buddy about 8 hours total, outside in the rain. it was intimidating at first, but it ended up being super easy, and way cheaper than taking it to the dealership.
Are you serious?
@@andryjcisneros2334 The trucks are much easier especially if its not in the rustbelt. If you're doing a rustbelt SUV with this engine its a whole different story.
Did you end up doing it urself? How it go
How many miles did you have on it?
350,000
@@shawnkmorse oh damn I’d say she did you good. My cold start rattle started at 37k more frequent now at 70k dealership said it’s probably the phasers and it doesn’t hurt anything so I’d be fine running it until it throws a code 🤷🏻♂️
@@alphawolfadventures1470 we have another one at about 400 and it's rattling pretty badly on initial start.
@@shawnkmorse so they can go awhile with the rattle start no harm?
@@alphawolfadventures1470 yes, as long as the rattle goes away within a few seconds
Big job and not change the water pump
I did end up changing it.
Nightmare. I'll stick to my N/A fords
I’ve done this four or five times this job can seem overwhelming, but it’s not once you get into it. It’s good use cardboard to put all your bolts in the cardboard. You can draw a map and place all your bolts on your map made my life easy the newer clips come off easy. Did anybody notice that?