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F150 Cam Phaser Rattle Repair Gen 2 3.5 Eco Boost
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2023
- Job Done! Here's my list of tools with Amazon links. As well as all of the Ford parts you are going to need! Also, these are the most recent part numbers as of February 2023.
TOOLS
Caulk Gun: amzn.to/3RUHgS5
Motocraft Gasket Maker: amzn.to/3RWnSEf
Hammer: amzn.to/3E1KVb6
Wire Cutter: amzn.to/3lwl6JD
Vice Grip: amzn.to/3IffjBl
Cam Locking Tool: amzn.to/3K1NeyM
Socket Sets: amzn.to/3Yr33TT
Deep Socket Set: amzn.to/3YKtVOA
3/8 Extension: amzn.to/3IhnP2z
3/8 Swivel Adapter: amzn.to/40NWVqo
Box End Wrench Set: amzn.to/3xhIKwi
Torx T45: amzn.to/3IiB9E7
Extension Magnet: amzn.to/3XoYp7y
Channel Locks: amzn.to/3xePvPh
Panel Tool: amzn.to/3jY6cvk
Pry Bar: amzn.to/3K0JD3K
Flat Screwdriver: amzn.to/3YnbgIX
3/8 Torque Wrench: amzn.to/40QKNVK
3/4 Torque Wrench: amzn.to/3YsYp86
Harmonic Puller: amzn.to/3lsT2am
FORD PARTS LINK
ML3Z-6256-A Intake VCT Unit - Package Contains 1 Piece, 2 Pieces Required
ML3Z-6C525-A Exhaust VCT Unit - Package Contains 1 Piece, 2 Pieces Required
HL3Z-6279-A - VCT Unit Bolt Package Contains 1 Piece, 4 Pieces Required
ML3Z-6584-G - Left Valve Cover Gasket
HL3Z-6584-A - Right Valve Cover Gasket
HL3Z-9439-A - Intake Port Gasket - Package Contains 3 Pieces, 6 Pieces Required
W503275-S437 - High Pressure Fuel Tube Retaining Bolt - Package Contains 4 Pieces, 1 Piece Required
W503280-S437 - High Pressure Fuel Tube Retaining Bolt - Package Contains 4 Pieces, 1 Piece Required
W714498-S900 - High Pressure Pump Mounting Bolt - Package Contains 4 Pieces, 2 Pieces Required
AA5Z-9E583-A - High Pressure Pump O-ring
HL3Z-8507-A - Coolant Pump Gasket
BR3Z-8527-A - Coolant Pump O-ring
HL3Z-6A340-A - Crankshaft Pulley Shaft Bolt
XW4Z-6700-AA - Front Crankshaft Seal
BR3Z-6020-A - Front Cover Coolant Pipe Seal
BR3Z-6C535-A - Oil Pump Electrical Connector Seal
AA5Z-6714-A - OilFilter
TA-357 - Motorcraft® High Performance Engine RTV Silicone
ZC-30-A - Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover
ZC-31-B - Motorcraft® Metal Surface Cleaner
VC-13-G - Motorcraft® Orange Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated
(All Markets Except Canada)
CVC-13-G - Motorcraft® Orange Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated (Canada Only)
VC-13-G - Motorcraft® Yellow Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated (All Markets Except Canada)
CVC-13-G - Motorcraft® Yellow Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated (Canada Only)
XO-5W30-Q1SP - Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil (All Markets Except Canada)
CXO-5W30-LSP6 - Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Super Premium Motor Oil (Canada Only)
ZC-20 - Motorcraft® Engine Shampoo and Degreaser (All Markets Except Canada)
CXC-66-A - Motorcraft® Engine Shampoo (Canada Only)
PM-4-A - Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner (Compliant With Low Volatile Organic Compound Requirements As Required In Some USA States)
PM-4-B - Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner (Not Compliant With Volatile Organic Compound Requirements)
PARTS TO INSPECT AND REPLACE ONLY IF NECESSARY
HL3Z-9H486-A - Upper Intake Manifold Gaskets - Package Contains 6 Pieces
BR3Z-6C535-A - VCT Oil Control Seal
BR3Z-6C535-B - Spark Plug Tube Seal
HL3Z-9417-A - High Pressure Pump Mounting Plate Seal
BL3Z-9374-A - High Pressure Pump Mounting Plate O-ring
HL3Z-8507-D - Thermostat Housing O-ring
HL3Z-8527-A - Thermostat Housing O-ring
HL3Z-8590-A - Water Pump Outlet O-ring If Needed
HL3Z-9J323-C - High Pressure Pump to Rail Tube
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You're a hero for taking the time to put this together. Thank you so much. I am gearing up to do my phasers in a week or two and this is insanely valuable. You rock.
Good luck!
How did it turn out? I just did mine and this video helped a ton!
@@TheBigghunter01 it turned out great. 5k trouble free miles since. This and another video + the service manuals were very valuable. How did yours go?
Thank you for posting this and the torque specs. Legendary. Truly
Glad you liked it and it could help!
@@juicer911😊😊
I'm glad i found this video mine. I just started making noise, and im not paying 5k for someone else to do it. Thanks for the video i know it took time to make
Glad that this could help you.
Hey man did you end up doing the phasers yourself? thanks
Book time on my 18 F150 3.5T phasers, chain, water pump, etc (with some minor exceptions, the job you spelled out here) was 18 hours. I came in right at that with your guidance and I took my time over a 3 days stretch to let things cure before starting and cleaning up. Thank you ever so much for taking the time to compose this and to all of you wondering, this is spot on instruction. Follow this step by step and you will cure what ails your beast. Now on to fishing!
Just replaced my phasers and used this as my guide. Really great video!
Taking pictures, using colored electrical tape to mark some of those electrical, vacuum and coolant connections and putting all the parts in order of removal was very helpful in getting everything back together.
I will clarify that the harmonic puller is a 3 jaw type and to install you need the other harmonic remover/installer that has the bolt with 2 thread types to put on the harmonic balancer. A strap wrench was very useful to hold the motor while torquing the crank bolt but i would recommend torquing it before removing the cam holder tool. (I already put the valve covers on)
The trim removal tool was worth every penny for those Christmas tree connectors. Hose clamp pliers were helpful too (i used to just use channel locks).
Red scotch-brite pads and a $10 Harbor Freight dremel with a wire wheel were great for getting that valve cover cleaned off.
Also, if anyone here has a intermittent rough idle, its probably the VVT solenoid.
This video is 100% on point down to the Chevy LS CRANK PULLER I STRIPED THE THREADS JUST LIKE HE SAID I JUST DID THE JOB IVE WATCHED FOR HOURS ON OTHER VIDEOS THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE HE IS DEAD ASS ON POINT NOT 1 THING DID HE MISS AND HE DONE EVERYTHING I CANT TELL U THIS IS THE ONLY VIDEO U NEED TO WATCH HOPE THIS SAVES SOMONE HOURS OF TIME AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO I SUBSCRIBED U GOT ME FRONT HERE ON OUT IVE BEEN FULL TIME SLINGING WREANCHS 24 YEARS AND U MY FRIEND HELPED ME TODAY !!
Dude, you are a God damn hero for this. Much love and thanks
I’ve been using youtube to help me fix stuff for years and this I think is the best how to video I’ve ever seen on a big repair job. Thank you very much for the video!
2018 F150 3.5 Eco with 80,000 miles. Cam Phaser rattle started about 60,000, I towed 20,000 miles with the rattle.
I watched about 3 different You-Tubes and followed Kenneth's the most. He really had a lot of detail. I had trouble getting the Cam phasers off with the cheap tool
on the internet. The cam tool bent and the Torx Plus almost stripped the bolts. I bought a quality Stallion cam tool and OTC Torx plus from Freedom Racing in Iowa.
A special thanks to Brain at FR, he was awesome, very knowledgeable. The crank pulley tool from the internet was fine. To install the crank pulley, I bought a 4” grade ten
bolt to get it started. I did not have to tap it on. The most difficult thing I thought was the timing cover. You don’t have enough time to install it using the #357 silicone.
When finished, I pre-primed the oil holding the gas pedal down for about 10 seconds until pressure. It fired up right away, quiet and smooth.
I added antifreeze and topped off about 3 times without a vacuum. No problems, no codes.
I want to give a special thanks to Kenneth for his awesome video because it made most things very, very easy.
I’m 71 years old and did the job in about 20 hours by myself taking my time. I worked on engines in my younger years, but conventional V-8’s, nothing like this.
I made a 2’ x 4’ Shelf that laid on top of the radiator to a 4’ ladder with a pad. I bought the parts from Ford on line for 30% off. Parts cost $1500 and tools cost $300.00
Here is a list of items I bought.
Cam Phasers (4), Timing Chains (2), Crank Gear, Chain Guides (2) , Tensioner Arms (2), Chain Tensioners (2), Solenoids (4), Water Pump, Thermostat,
Valve Covers (2), By-Pass Hose, Lower Hose, Upper Hose, A/C Belt, Serpentine Belt, Plus all the Gaskets, Seals and Bolts.
Could I message you directly to rent your specialty tools?
Awesome. Thank you for the input and assistance with this repair. This video and information will be used for a long time.
You just saved me thousands! Thank you.
Quality Video without the extra fluff, great job, I will be attempting this next week.... Thank You
great job with this video.. i have ordered parts for my expedition and will be replacing. you have saved me thousands
I am glad that this could help you!
I appreciate the detailed parts list you saved me a $hit ton of time!
No problem 👍 glad it has helped people
Nice job. Must have taken a lot of time to put this together. Thank You.
You bet! Glad it has helped you out!
Thank you for this video. I find myself needing this exact repair, and with your video, I feel confident I can do it myself!
Well I’m using your video to do mine after local mechanic said 7k and ford said 5k. Right now I have the new cam phaser on and torque to specs. Thank you so much hopefully I’ll be done tomorrow
Be prepared. It is a long, long job.
@@juicer911 so I’m done I used the list you provided for tools and parts. Along with the tutorial I change the cam phasers on my expedition 2019. Now it sounds beautiful and it runs amazingly powerful. Thank you so much. The bottom anchor for the battery cable I didn’t even put back I just taped it back with electrical wire and it was good. You were right it’s a pain to take that one bolt out. In total it took me 20 hours. That is including the time for torque specs and pausing and rewinding vid. I was told by ford that it was gonna take 30 labor hours for them to complete. So I think I did pretty good lol. I spent 2000k in tools and materials (Walmart, harbor freight and Amazon ). Thank you so much for doing this video.
Excellent I’m about to do same
Great job w/vid....guys like u passing along info and experiences...much appreciated
You bet!!
Salute…. You just earned another subscriber…. Great video!!!
I had this video up in my garage while I was doing the job, I have a good amount of mechanical experience and this guide was fantastic. The torque specs are a solid addition, not a ton of unnecessary fluff, and I would have only varied from his sequence for personal preference. This was a great guide and much appreciated, thank you for taking the time and effort!
Thank you so much for this video brother! Amazing detail, easy to understand, loved the general tips and tricks you recommended along the way
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent!! I don't even need to do this but watched the entire video.
Excellent video, thank you for posting!
Man, great video. Thanks for showing all the torque specs!
Excellent video. Best I've watch.
Thank you sir!
Great write up. Definitely helped me. That one 10mm on the battery harness is much easier to remove if you put 2 nuts on that stud and use a ratchet from up top to take the stud out.
Thank you. Hopefully I never have to do this again but if I do, I will take your pointers.
Just a tip for anyone that plans on doing this, clean the surfaces before you re install any of the timing components it makes it easier to clean, and if you break the small connector for the oil pressure solenoid when removing the front cover just clean the Area and Sensor with brake clean and super glue it back in place.
and to help time everything it doesn't matter too much if you spin the engine Counter clock wise a little just make sure all your timing marks line up before you set the final tensioner, you can also slightly move the cam phasers to get some more slack on the chain. these take me about 6 hours to do so just some tips on how I make it easier.
when re installing the Front cover use the Long bolts in the middle of the front cover to help you line up if you are afraid of smearing the sealant.
Also helps if you use silicone spray on the valve cover seals when removing, makes the covers break loose easier.
and the front cover seals when re installing, along with any hoses you disconnected.
and if your vehicle is high mileage try and set the hose clamps back it its original position( it should be imprinted on the hoses) other wise it might cause a coolant leak.
Thank you for your video life saver !!
Kenneth! Fine job of explaining the step by step of R &R the cam phaser.
Just a thing that helps and makes it easy to get the valve cover to come off. Just spray spray something like WD40 around the seals and take a sharp pick and just it and the valve cover will lift off with ease..
Remove the coolant recovery tank with 2 bolts and 1 small hose..
Remove the air filter. It can trap a small thing like a lock washer which would be sucked in to a turbo.
Then you will need a turbo. Saw this happen in a tractor dealers shop.
Tom Silver
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Thank you so much! Hope it will never be like that again. Hahah
Great video! Extremely helpful
I AM GLAD IT HELPED!
Excellent video!!!
Thank you very much!
Ya man
...awesome! I know I can do it now
Great video. Thanks 👍
I have a 2017 3.5 Ecoboost, I have had this done at the dealership "Twice", thank goodness it was under warranty. Having said that I have the rattle yet again, and I'm out of warranty. Im at 110k miles, just really frustrated with this issue amongst others like the 10 speed transmission that I had replaced @ 100k miles, and the infamous leaking oil pan issue. I know all brands have their issues but damn this is a lot for one truck, and it's not just mine. These newer f-150s definitely have their problems.
Boy I've got 150k on my 2014... Always stayed up on oil changes, Motorcraft only. Love my 6speed trans 0 issues. Just now getting a lite rattle on start up. Not sure if it's phasers, tensioner, heat shield or wastewater rattle. Oh well gonna tackle it soon.
Sucks that you’ve had so many problems. I’ve had to, and never have had an issue out of mine. I just keep up with the regular maintenance.
A lot of Ford dealers are not installing the updated phasers. They have a surplus of the old phasers that fail but under a warranty repair they install what’s in stock. Anyone having this done should always request the new update phasers are installed and not the old version. The new versions are the ones where you cannot see the springs on the front of the phaser. Hope this helps.
You did a great job on the video. 🤙
Very much appreciated how thorough you were on the explanation and the visual.
Also appreciated the torque speciations at the end.
Well done, Sir.
Thank you. Like and share.
thanks for the vid, was really helpfull. Cheers from Chile
Glad it helped!
I have a gen 1 3.5 ecoboost.. doing the same job right now. Got it torn apart just have to put the chains/phasers back on and hope to god I don’t break anything else putting it together😂 (broke a few things I shouldn’t have already) 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills.
Badass video man. Great job.
We’ll done and nicely narrated
Amazing detailed video. I wish I had your skill.
This was Awesome ... thank you
Thank you... Much needed
I didn't notice one on your tuck , you should check into a oil seperator catch can I usually catch about 2 inches every couple months and the fuel mileage has gotten a little better. You must be a pretty good mechanic these newer engines are so much more complicated to work on .
I actually do have one on the truck. I don't think I showed it in the fridge though. But thank you for the suggestion.
So install oil separtor is good step? In my car isnt install from previous owners.
@@OndraZales it's for engines that are turbo with forced air putting one on at anytime I dont think is a bad thing it keeps the oil from your valves and pistons from getting carbon build up I would put gum out in your fuel too help clean what might already be on their.
Happened to mine at 19k, hope the new style phasers correct the problem
I hope so as well
The needs to be a class action law suit against Ford. So many of us have had this problem.
@@Mike1981905 had mine changed awhile ago to the new ones now. Fingers crossed the same crap doesn’t happen again in 20k miles
Thanks for posting this one. Was good to get the part numbers for the specialty tools. One question how much of this is the same as the 2018 3.5 ecoboost in the explorer???
Take the coolant expansion tank out right at the start it makes reaching everything else a lot easier
Subscribed, excellent video.
Welcome aboard!
Me too!
You took apart way more then you needed too but everybody has a first time I would have done it a lot differently but I do about 3 of these a week so I know tricks and shortcuts
Hey got it done so I am happy. Hahah . Hopefully there is no next time.
@josephphallport how do get the crank pulley back on? I am having a hell of a time.
Would you be inclined to share your shortcuts?
What are these secrets?
This video is top notch.i definitely feel comfortable doing job after this.WHERE DID U GET THE DIGITAL MANUAL WITH HIGHLIGHTED PICS?
The end all for this is a Pre Oiler installed before the oil filter, when the key turns power to the dash. It pre oils the top end of the motor and than starts. Every vehicle should have this...
Thanks for that comment
100% or an even easier fix would be to program the computer to allow the engine to crank over for a couple seconds letting it to build a little pressure before allowing it to actually start.
@_r.t- true!
just Hold the Gas When cranking, it will crank the motor without firing the injectors so it won't start.@@_r.t-
What pre oiler did you use?
Well done
Outstanding video! I'm in the middle of this repair and found this to be exactly what I needed!
Thank you for the video! I have a question, when I look up the part numbers for the phasers in the description, the fitment says for 2021-2024, but I have a 2018 and from what I understand is a gen 2, should I still use? Thanks again!
Great video! Super helpful. I am trying to source the torque spec document that you went over, I would much rather print it out for the garage. Please help! Thank you
The google drive document I used is in the description
Thank you greatly for this video I’ve got a 2016 expedition with the same problem and some others. Can you tell me where I can get the repair manual you showed please help
I have no idea.. I had someone send me the pdf file to use
Hey Kenneth, Unbelievable Job. Great Video. When all is put back together, is there any special way to start the truck for the first time? Hold down the throttle for 5 seconds to get oil pressure? Rev the engine to 3500 RPM to set the PCM? Purge the radiator? Thanks Don
Great question. I did not see anything in the manual about special start up instructions. However, I personally just started it like normal.
About how much to do the timing job plus the phasers?
Hey Kenneth! Appreciate the video 100%. I just found out my extended warranty wouldn't cover this repair because i couldnt provide them with verifiable maintenance records, even after i told them i do all the work myself. Long story short, i now have to tackle this problem AFTER having to replace the water pump and timing chain components on my 2013 explorer (all the fun! Lol). I was curious, where do you get the electronic manuals from?
Before removing the tensioners and chains how do you set the engine to tdc ? Do you line up links with the marks if the old chain still has some color of those tdc links?
You rotate the motor until the cam tools lock in.
I’d like to thank you very much very detailed very good information. Great job thank you.
Sir I have ford raptor engine going overheating when 170 km/ give me any idea please I change everything thinks ECT THERMOSTAT REDATOR REPLACE
Sorry. I’m not really sure where to start with that.
Thanks for the video it’s super informative! I opened that Google drive trying to see if there is a step by step manual I couldn’t find it. Is there a web link or something so I can print it out. Thank you much appreciated
Glad it helped! However,. I can’t find the file I used before.
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1fAXT1oD1dJg7vgyWrQJmM9xo0Fv4h5jR?pli=1
@@juicer911 thanks a lot bro l! I will have your video up while assembling and tightening the screws.
Do you have a preference on replacement cam phasers? I don’t want to have to do this every 70k+ miles
Can anyone tell me how can I get the bdf he have on how to do all the steps and stuff like can I buy it or what 36:20
Hey great video this has def helped me come up with a. list of parts and the confidence to do this myself. Do you happen to remember the part numbers for the timing chain and the guides by chance? my truck has 68k on it and kinda just wanna replace them while I'm in there. hoping these new phasers keep it closed for awhile haha
Would you be able to share the pdf you are reading?
@@Not__ya it is at the bottom of the description.
@@juicer911 It doesn’t appear to be in the drive files.
Would you possibly have a list for the exact same repair but on a 2018 F150 5.0L 3rd gen Coyote
Do you need to replace the front covers bolts? Or are these reusable?
Hey man I was wondering what are the bolts that I have to replace and how many of them do I need?
Will wish work for a 2016 f150 3.5 eco boost?
Not sure if they are different motor generations.
Where did you get the maintenance procedure? I’m about to try this job in a month or 2 once I collect up all the parts but I can’t find the maintenance procedure and I would feel a lot better if I had it
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1fAXT1oD1dJg7vgyWrQJmM9xo0Fv4h5jR?pli=1
@@juicer911 what a hero
@@juicer911 This is for 2017. Do you have a 2018 service manual link for the torque specs? Thanks!
Around how much was for all the parts listed? Thank you for such great video 🙋
I say about $500
Awesome video, thabks man. Where did you get the service manual from?
Pro tip. Let the air out the front tires, if you can air them back up. Appreciate the vid.
Good tip!
Beautiful work my Guy
Do you know if 2017 Raptor is same procedure
Thank you so much for your video! I checked more videos w ith the list using parts and any list dont have new timig chains. You don't have too. You don't need new timing chains?
Ford does not replace the chains for the CamPhaser recall. I personally think it is cheap insurance. Ford is cheap and only replacing exactly what is needed. Timing chains, water pump, tensioners should all be replaced because they have a “life span.”
I agree with you, but I didn't see the past numbers for the timing chains or guides. Did I miss them or do you possibly have them?
Could you share the pdf you have with the step by step instructions please?
I will have to see if I can find it
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1fAXT1oD1dJg7vgyWrQJmM9xo0Fv4h5jR?pli=1
I need a parts list for the Gen 1!! Anyone? Please lol.
I imagine it’s pretty damn close to the same list, just need get all the pet numbers
How long did you drive it like that and how much did it cost for all the camphaser replace
Do you happen to have a link to where i can get the brake down that shows all the pictures with the pdfs?
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1fAXT1oD1dJg7vgyWrQJmM9xo0Fv4h5jR?pli=1
@@juicer911 thank you I appreciate it! 🙏
Where did you get the parts from?? I’m having trouble finding the right parts?
Amazon, eBay, Ford.
Would it be a good idea and 100,000 Km on Truck to replace the Serpentine Belt and AC Compressor Belt when doing this Cam Phaser Job
Curious i haven't watched the whole video entirely but how many miles was on the truck before you did all of this? I'm looking at a 2020 Ecoboost.
62k
How much do you charge to replace it ? 2018 F150XL, THANK YOU !
First like to save love the instructions. You did an amazing job. Do you have a link where I can get that manual?
What year is your truck? Im trying to figure out if i should replace the water pump because ive heard they go bad, but i have a 2017 Gen 2 Raptor
Mine is 2018 3.5 ecoBoost
That sensor on the bottom is just kind of dangling there but I see the hole it goes in what’s up with that
wonder if anyone has attempted this without removing the front cover, I know on the 5.4 3v you could manage without removing all the front stuff
Wish you showed setting the cam tool and getting it lined up 🤦🏼♂️
i have a question for you. the undated fazers and schematic show two gaskets per seal to be installed between fazers and cam. I fear when doing so the seals will block off oil passage and or if not installed leak or leak because of double gasketing?
Those gaskets do not go behind the phasers. Those two seals go in a groove in the cam itself. You do not need those. There are eight of them.
Where did you’ll buy your phasers at ?
Hi, i have some questions. Is it possible to get in contact with you? Im from Germany and we have a F150 -2017. We have trouble to get some parts and documents. I would really appreciate if you answer!:)
How do those cam shaft lock tools get installed?
Crazy cause either though the gen 2 3.5 had the updated parts?
This ford doesnt have 3 timing chains?
NOPE.
Do you have a website where you pulled all the torque specs? Or what website did you use at the end while explaining?
I had a FORD service manual. I have to see if I can find the link
Great video! Where did you get the book for the truck? I want one!
Where did u by your ford service manual? Is that where you got pictures you used at the end, they were great too.
Kennith can you send the part number for the timing chains
@juicer911
Sure
What year is this truck?
2018
@@juicer911 Do you know which is the newer part? HL3Z-6256-CD or ML3Z-6256-A / HL3Z-6C525-CD or ML3Z-6C525-A
@@FUNBEAU , ML are the newer parts