Can Fuel Stabilizer Kill Your Motorcycle? Comparison Test

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  • We find answers to all of your fuel stabilizer questions, so sit back, relax and soak it in. [Links below]
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  • @sentry4944
    @sentry4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1190

    "Like a dog park after the snow melt, there's a lot of shit."
    Top notch writing right there.

    • @Porsche996driver
      @Porsche996driver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brevity, that’s some tight shit.

    • @daveyt4802
      @daveyt4802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bah wah hahhahah!! F9 is great.

    • @peedee4065
      @peedee4065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lived in Ottawa for four years. Forget the dog park, every single snowbank was game. Gaaaarrrrooooossssssssss!!!!

    • @mikem9953
      @mikem9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was great!

    • @dannybbitzz
      @dannybbitzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “Canada box”

  • @GamerGetsFIT
    @GamerGetsFIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1713

    Ryan and Aneesh deserve all the 1m subs and more, can't believe 2 guys make all this happen.. Brava gentlemen 👏🏼

    • @nabob14
      @nabob14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      I don't even own a motorcycle and love their vids!

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A niche? Who’s that

    • @mickleblade
      @mickleblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@nabob14 well then, buy a bike and join the fun! Start with a Tamiya model in have to...

    • @elifreeland5869
      @elifreeland5869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Fee.1 the cameraman/director

    • @James-dh1ji
      @James-dh1ji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You can't believe 2 guys made an educational video about... fuel stabilizer? Seriously?!? You REALLY need to raise your standards. And 1 guy makes this happen, Ryan provides mostly solid useful substance.

  • @waynekrafft1069
    @waynekrafft1069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +706

    Another fun video from FortNine. I always enjoy Ryan's work. As a chemist that has spent a few years working in the lab of an oil refinery doing product R&D and process control I see a couple of problems with the methodology used in the video. The most glaring is that it is mostly based on the assumption that the addition of ethanol in gasoline is the sole reason that gasoline degrades and causes problems during long-term storage and misses the main point of fuel stabilizers, which is to prevent oxidation of petroleum molecules. None of the stabilizers claim to protect metal fuel tanks.
    Petroleum hydrocarbons react with oxygen and ozone resulting in the formation of polymers that are typically called "varnish" when they show up in fuel systems. These polymers are not very soluble in gasoline and settle to the bottom of carb bowls and clog filters and injectors.
    Varnish and foul-smelling old gas are not as much a problem today as they used to be, with or without adding stabilizers. Today's gasolines contain a combination of detergents and anti-oxidants and are much more stable with age than they used to be. One might argue that the need to add a stabilizer to gasoline is no longer needed in much of the world.
    Ryan and many others believe that filling the tank with non-ethanol gasoline is the solution for long-term storage. With or without ethanol, all gasoline in the developed world is required to contain oxygenators to reduce pollution. So, ethanol free gasoline contains a different oxygenating chemical, you just don't know what it is.
    There is no safe and quick way to test the performance of fuels stabilizers. Oxidation takes time and if you try to rush it with flammable liquids you’re literally playing with fire. A real test would be a set of vented containers with various fuel stabilizers added to gasoline and let them sit for a year. After the year is up give them a sniff and pour them through a paper filter to see how much, or how little varnish is formed.

    • @charlesseymour1482
      @charlesseymour1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Methyl iso butyl ether.

    • @PouchMaster
      @PouchMaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      What a terrific explanation! You might be the smartest man I've ever seen in a TH-cam comment section!

    • @PMitchell106
      @PMitchell106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      This is the highest quality comment on this video, unfortunate to see only 47 people read and appreciated it, while thousands rally at the circle-jerk comments.

    • @DoubleRBlaxican
      @DoubleRBlaxican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I don't get your point, at the end he said that fuel stabilizers help with oxidation, but the main problem comes from the water in the system and the freezing of said water in the gas tank. All of which can be reduced by simply not buying gasoline with ethanol.

    • @BrettSeiler
      @BrettSeiler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is an interesting comment though, and I do see some issues with the video methods, but both have potential pit falls. ***I'm not a chemist, but I do have quite a bit of real world experience with carbbed and FI bikes. I think there's different issues depending on how long you're storing fuel for, so you really need to focus on what you're trying to solve for. Long term fuel storage, varnish is an issue, short term, water absorption is an issue. Both could be an issue. I haven't had issues with metal gas tanks, so modern fuel and additives seem fine in that regard. From experience, modern fuel doesn't agree with carbs for storage (drain the bowl!) I assume this is an evaporation issue, maybe someone can chime in on that. I haven't seen many problem with FI bikes other than high performance injectors may plug with older 10% ethanol fuel. I can't buy ethanol free fuel, so no comment there.

  • @SirNarax
    @SirNarax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    My biggest takeaway is a confirmation that yes that Indian still looks pretty nice.

    • @JeanMarceaux
      @JeanMarceaux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And is relatively affordable

  • @debarghabiswas6858
    @debarghabiswas6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +660

    Came to stabilize my thoughts
    Wasn't disappointed.
    1 millions out of 10

    • @davidc1961utube
      @davidc1961utube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ethanol will stabilize my thoughts...

  • @dannysmithmedia5215
    @dannysmithmedia5215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    Aneesh’s cinematography & editing is a benchmark on this platform. I’m saying this as a content producer. And Ryan’s hosting is too. Next stop - 2 million lads!

    • @1121494
      @1121494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also of course Ryan's Writing.

    • @James-dh1ji
      @James-dh1ji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      IMO, Ryan's solid research and substance is what makes these videos good. I would still watch Ryan even if he filmed this on his phone with a selfie stick and so would you. All these pretentious artsy fartsy filming and editing tricks are starting to become inappropriate, tiresome, distracting, and very very repetitive. Fire the Michael Bay Film School grad, and hire an animator to draw diagrams.

    • @manishholla
      @manishholla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@James-dh1ji nobody asked you opinion I guess 🙄. Though Ryan's explanation is at next level, Aneesh's skills to are top notch.
      So stop your mindless thoughts about editing and filmography

    • @James-dh1ji
      @James-dh1ji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@manishholla Nobody asked you for your opinion either, yet here you are in all your hypocritical glory. I'm getting Transformers flashbacks, and that's not a compliment. I guess some people can be easily dazzled by colors and flashing lights. To each their own, enjoy.

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@James-dh1ji I detect a trump victim

  • @noahmercy-mann4323
    @noahmercy-mann4323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    As a small engine mechanic, I always recommend ethanol-free premium with Sta-Bil if a machine will sit for more than a month. Caveats are that it must be filled up when there is very little fuel with ethanol left, and it must be run long enough to get throughout the system. On some bikes, that means quite a few miles if they have a sub-tank where the fuel pump lives. Also, get fuel from a station that has dedicated nozzles for each grade, or the first gallon (in the hose) will be whatever the last guy bought...possibly E10.

    • @joemann7971
      @joemann7971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Funny part is that I bought sta-bil thinking it was a crap fuel stabilizer since I bought it at home depot, rather than a bike shop, thinking "its better than nothing". I guess I just thought low of it since it was next to the lawnmowers. Lawnmowers are also prone to the same corrosion from storage. They are just smaller engines.

    • @clipofthedayyup4907
      @clipofthedayyup4907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I learned something from your post. Dedicated hose for each grade is important when it comes to a small tank. Thsnk you

    • @x-man5056
      @x-man5056 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Using premium for this purpose is a waste, never use premium in lawn equipment. It costs much more and serves zero purpose. The higher octane cannot be utilized by ANY lawn and garden equipment and serves no purpose for better storage. As a "small engine mechanic"you should know that.
      On motorcycles use ONLY the octane grade that the owners manual calls for. The purpose of higher octane is to allow for more ignition advance, giving a longer burn time for each powerstoke, creating more horsepower. Any engine without knock sensors CANNOT take advantage of the higher octane.
      Frequently, ethanol is used to RAISE octane in modern gas, lowering the BTU value of premium. Regular gas is more volatile, contains more energy by volume. Putting premium in engines that can't utilize the the higher anti-detonation qualities of premium is a waste, not beneficial in anyway.

    • @x-man5056
      @x-man5056 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joemann7971 Any vehicle you own, that doesn't get driven enough to completely burn out all the stored fuel in a month, should be using stabilizer. I drive my pickup less than 2k per year. I always keep Stabil 360 in it, year around.

    • @x-man5056
      @x-man5056 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clipofthedayyup4907 Almost all non-racing bikes run very well on regular. There is no concern for street bikes.

  • @aaron6426
    @aaron6426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been riding for years but this channel still teaches me things. Great work and i'm looking forward to the next video

  • @Baser2Tyme
    @Baser2Tyme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    The fact you only just hit a million subs is mind blowing you consistently make incredibly well made interesting videos on great subjects keep up the good work Ryan and f9 team

    • @mariomanus3176
      @mariomanus3176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A million bikers is mind blowing imho.

    • @adrianhrusca4067
      @adrianhrusca4067 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on country...in India that would be less than a city🤪...kidding...they are beyond words...

  • @TheMissendenFlyer
    @TheMissendenFlyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1144

    I learned a lot and was thoroughly entertained throughout - top marks guys, great great work as ever.....you set the benchmark for professional motorcycle content.....bravo!

    • @Baudesign
      @Baudesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I agree, but you, sir, on the other side of the Atlantic have a very interesting TH-cam channel as well. In this Covid depressing period, watching motorcycle videos is a real pleasure. :-)

    • @IvanIvan-sn5sq
      @IvanIvan-sn5sq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Baudesign Indeed. Two motorbike channels I'm subscribed to. Utter pleasure to watch them both.

    • @samuellon7128
      @samuellon7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thankfully us in the UK can get ethanol free from ESSO, so long as your not in Devon/Cornwall and you buy the premium stuff.

    • @markj3517
      @markj3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samuellon7128 Unfortunately Scotland also does not get Esso ethanol free, which is rather annoying

    • @motorcyclementor1785
      @motorcyclementor1785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      UK has the advantage that the fuel there isn't the shit mix you often get in N.America.I once saw my fuel lines (marked gas line) on my T140 turn into slimy jello after filling up at a 76 gas station. The answer for all canadians and americans is simple. Fill the tank, in the fall, with marked boat/farm gas. It is ethanol free and high octane. Illegal for highway use of course but infallible as a winter storage fuel.

  • @themza912
    @themza912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You two are incredible. Always informative, entertaining, and down right professional. I'll never stop watching your content.

  • @maxdle
    @maxdle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can’t believe you guys can make such artistic videos out of those technical, rational, cold topics ! Good job once again 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @ungefeiert
    @ungefeiert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    Congratulations on a million!

    • @MrSkinnyWhale
      @MrSkinnyWhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 👍

    • @muhammadaryawicaksono4232
      @muhammadaryawicaksono4232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whaatt? Just realized he'd been sub-1M all this time.

    • @ungefeiert
      @ungefeiert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrSkinnyWhale what

    • @MrSkinnyWhale
      @MrSkinnyWhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ungefeiert yeah

    • @nomad5176
      @nomad5176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is amazing with F9 that his huge meritoric content is inversely proportional to the small number of kilometers he makes in his vlogs :)

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    I seriously thought this was a project farm video at first.

    • @motoryzen
      @motoryzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That is an EXCELLENT " let's called out the bullshit of these products and see the reality without being rude about it" channel. That dude sounds like Kermit the frog, but he definitely deserves more subs too.

    • @nicolejhondelacruz9339
      @nicolejhondelacruz9339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@motoryzen true. we need more vids like this. Exposing bs ads and giving us the proper product to use

    • @lobbyrobby
      @lobbyrobby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As did I

    • @bilbombe
      @bilbombe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So did i :D

    • @davidhelmuth6654
      @davidhelmuth6654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@motoryzen go and visit AVE. There is no bullshit there. Lost of 😂

  • @jonathonmacleod8670
    @jonathonmacleod8670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this guy been riding 40 years on and off road and have never heard such consise breakdowns of our every day challenges as riders thanks bud keep it up

  • @TheTech9
    @TheTech9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never watched this channel before and Im blown away by how good this is. I will be back for another!

  • @danmoyer4650
    @danmoyer4650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I live in Canada. My ride is an '06 BMW K1200R, which I've had since new. My winter storage is an unheated, drafty barn. My storage prep: fill the tank to tippy top with high octane gas; remove the battery and put it on the battery tender. Spring start-up routine: replace the battery; insert the ignition key and press the start button. Result: instant start and smooth idle. This has worked the same every year for 14 winters, which have gotten as low as -30 degrees C. Sometimes for weeks on end.
    Fuel stabilizer? I don't need no steenking fuel stabilizer! (Hat's off to Mel B.)

    • @gplipp6489
      @gplipp6489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too!! 🇨🇦

    • @myrse7en
      @myrse7en 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about flat spots? Do you roll it ever so often?

    • @ElementofKindness
      @ElementofKindness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Similar conditions, and similar routine. Change oil, clean bike, lube chain, top tank with non-ethanol gas, connect battery tender to onboard connector, place bike in a Zerust motorcycle storage bag.

    • @christopherfassett9973
      @christopherfassett9973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Other's have commented that most premium (high-octane) gas in Canada is ethanol-free (which is not true in the US), so if you're unwittingly storing your bike with ethanol free gas, you're already following Ryan's advice

    • @robbieracer3294
      @robbieracer3294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@myrse7en I use to roll my stuff, but ended up getting stands..if you can't stands, you can put down a layer on the floor..even getting the tires up off the cold cement will help. But if you want to save money and do the cheapest thing but will help, yes you can roll it around or back and forth every few weeks. Inflate the tires to just above max pressure helps a little too

  • @DeadsetYT
    @DeadsetYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Heck Yeah Man!! I don't even know what Fuel Stabilizers are but I'm all for it!!

    • @GasGrassOrAssetto
      @GasGrassOrAssetto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gas goes bad over time. Fuel stabilizers attempt to extend that time.
      Basically, there are many different compounds in gas, and some evaporate quicker than others and some absorb water, leaving a different, generally more viscous mixture than what you put in your tank. This mixture can rust metal, clog your fuel system, and cause engine knock (lower octane rating).

    • @Me_Tom
      @Me_Tom หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GasGrassOrAssetto great work explaining what Ryan just explained in the video. SMH

  • @ahaa88
    @ahaa88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You guys are unique. In addition to being well researched your ideas of presentation are incredible. Always a pleasure to watch FortNine.

  • @pardisb4438
    @pardisb4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your contributions to the motorcycle community are truly meaningful and welcomed. I hope you know that! I always look forward to your videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @listofromantics
    @listofromantics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I'm renaming my freezer to "The Canada Box."
    P.S. - Congratulations on 1 Million well-earned Subs (you deserve 10x that for the quality, information, and entertainment you put into your videos).

  • @garythornberry4820
    @garythornberry4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The production value of these videos never ceases to amaze me. The delivery of quality data while also providing well thought and entertaining screen plays is second to none. Keep up the good work F9.

  • @robertokeefe101
    @robertokeefe101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ryan, huge kudos on the video and the storytelling, you guys rock! I used and abused my bandit for 10 years and 60,0000 miles without even a sniff of anything other than 95 octane. I guess I won’t change my ways but I learnt a thing or two as I do every time I watch one of your videos 👍

  • @jstn9914
    @jstn9914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So happy to see you two reach 1 million subs. You both deserve it with your quality content.

  • @MarkZX14R
    @MarkZX14R 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Great story, but the best solution is live in Australia where we say - What is this winter storage thing you speak of :)

    • @tr2745
      @tr2745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know lol

    • @MotoVio
      @MotoVio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      U really have no winter there ? I mean, atleast in december-january, is like freaking cold or something ?

    • @Tjeerd013
      @Tjeerd013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MotoVio They live in the southern hemisphere, so it should be juli-aug then?

    • @stephensmith2027
      @stephensmith2027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MotoVio as above the seasons are reversed so december/january is freaking hot! very few areas see snow in Australia, only really above 1000m or 3000 feet for you yanks. If you are in the northern states you will be fine, southern (the colder) states some people choose to shelve their bikes. I often ride to work in 0-5 degrees C which should be 32-40ish F, we don't salt our roads and city areas don't ice up so layering up is what we do :)

    • @temperspace
      @temperspace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I consider anything under 20°C really cold

  • @matthewblunderbuss4545
    @matthewblunderbuss4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Best TH-cam motorcycle channel around, I watch even if I don’t care about the subject, production and writing quality is through the roof.

    • @shoechew
      @shoechew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wipe your face.

  • @Max-kw4px
    @Max-kw4px 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is amazing. It's crazy how little (useful) information there is on this stuff. Love the home-chemistry experiments, but it blows me away that this analysis hasn't been done professionally and published... I'm sure people have and then have lawsuits dropped on them by these stabilizer companies.

  • @grantholmes5661
    @grantholmes5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these types of videos. Much needed, even for experienced riders.

  • @outdoorquest3005
    @outdoorquest3005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The most underrated motorcycle channel. You guys deserve a lot more subscription.

    • @adityasingh3331
      @adityasingh3331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro he has 1.01 million subs lmao

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i dont see how its under rated.

    • @Labgorilla
      @Labgorilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      S

    • @outdoorquest3005
      @outdoorquest3005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adityasingh3331 Powerdrift has more followers with BS videos which looks like commercials dude.

    • @ERICK4431
      @ERICK4431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most motorcycle channels don't get too big so his at 1Million subs is pretty good for a motorcycle channel. Now if it was a make-up channel then 1M subs is underrated 😐

  • @Wizaardd
    @Wizaardd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The editing on your videos is unbelievable. Keep up the great work

    • @amirk6155
      @amirk6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s Aneesh Shivanekar with the superb camera work & editing production. TeamF9!

    • @GamerGetsFIT
      @GamerGetsFIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can you believe it's just Ryan and Aneesh that make it all happen

  • @manborn
    @manborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything you've discussed happened to me. I hope not the rusting but bike would not start with stabil, if only I shook the tank to mix it prior to. I normally only do it during adding but now will shake the tank to help mix on first start after long storage. Your science explanations are a heaven sent.

  • @gregbruns8442
    @gregbruns8442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good one! Highly entertaining. Thanks for the effort you put in your videos. This one takes the cake. I've used Sta-bil for years. NEVER use Ethanol in bikes. Especially air cooled ones.

  • @keepingitdownwiththepashas
    @keepingitdownwiththepashas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "...keep our hands out of Saudi Arabia's pants" GOLD. This channel is amazing and I dont even have a bike.

  • @falken7610
    @falken7610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow that intro!! So grateful we have this beautiful videos in the motorcycling community!!

  • @mnnic4292
    @mnnic4292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cinematography, editing, lightning, script, delivery, sound, ... all benchmark. 100% quality, and yes, then there is the great motorcycle subject we came to see. Cheers!

  • @ryloidstanloid7989
    @ryloidstanloid7989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on 1 mil! Your videos are always on point! Keep it up!

  • @karlkafer1635
    @karlkafer1635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Still waiting for the review of that Indian FTR...

    • @arjunachar6812
      @arjunachar6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same!

    • @KLRmurdercycle
      @KLRmurdercycle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @christopherfassett9973
      @christopherfassett9973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When it comes to bike that he personally owns, he usually waits until he's thrashed it a bit before reviewing it

    • @oregonoutback7779
      @oregonoutback7779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It died. Watch the video.

    • @dwayneharris3874
      @dwayneharris3874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that was last week, in the last minute.

  • @szn00
    @szn00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I felt like I don't deserve this much quality content❤

    • @shoechew
      @shoechew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      good

  • @Hutzi7191
    @Hutzi7191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quality of your video is improving on each new video ! Congrats on the Team FortNine, please keep up the good work !

  • @time_of_yer_life_eh_kid
    @time_of_yer_life_eh_kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    your "Canada Box" needs some defrosting - excellent presentation as always

  • @frankcastle13
    @frankcastle13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love your dramatisation videos. I go so far as to say you could perfectly fine star in a movie 👍😀 By far the best motorcycle everything channel anywhere!

  • @Anibalcm
    @Anibalcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The channel just keeps getting better. Amazing

  • @koolaidacidkilla179
    @koolaidacidkilla179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am grateful of this channel. Not product placements, just facts. The content has no rival. Thank you very much.

    • @magooracing
      @magooracing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and Project Farm is pretty good at testing products.

  • @ParkerHale06
    @ParkerHale06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really well made thank you Sir ! Nevertheless let me share my own one time experience and the many times experience of a friend. This fall (mid-november) for the first time I used fuel stabilizer to store our 2 motorcycles. Today, January 30th, I started both bikes which are stored in a non-heated shelter (-5 inside, measured) to verify if any battery would need a charge. Both started the easiest way I have witnessed after a long and cold storage, especially my Tiger 800 which could be rather temperamental on that "first start". The stabilizers I used were Yamaha and KleenFlo. Now for my friend, who was a manager of a motorcycle driving school. For motorcycles they usually encounter rather few problems on the "spring start", somehow for the scooters, the ones that didn't get a fuel stabilizer before storage are usually a burden to start. Unfortunately I don't know which brand of stabilizer they use. That's all I can say, some don't seem so good as demonstarted in this video, but in my experience and my friend's one, some look like they are rather useful. Good luck everybody !

  • @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr
    @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations on surpassing 1 million subs! You always great content. I try to end the day riding by refueling with non-ethanol gasoline. Plus store the bike thru the winter with a full tank of the same. I have used StarTron for years with no problems. I guess I’ll at least switch to Stabil as winter approaches here in Middle Tennessee, USA. Ride safe!

  • @mayoHou
    @mayoHou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Un travail remarquable et exhaustif comme d'habitude… merci camarade !

  • @bertdavis9320
    @bertdavis9320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best doing it on TH-cam. In any genre. For any interest. Glad you guys chose motorcycles. Bravo.

  • @TheSilentwatch
    @TheSilentwatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations on the 1 million plus subscribers! ... Another great video where we actually learn something important. Keep up the wonderful entertainment.

  • @tippytailmckitty2658
    @tippytailmckitty2658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I always run ethanol free gas in my bike and lawnmower/snowblower. Then I use Stabil for storage and never have a problem .

  • @NINJAMANATEE11
    @NINJAMANATEE11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the only channel that I watch on normal speed because I want it to last longer and it's the only channel that I re watch videos over and over every couple of months not because I forget the info just because they are a joy to watch. I watch it for the excellent cinematography crazy good stories and Ryan's voice. Also....I don't ride a motorcycle.

  • @territodude
    @territodude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man, I appreciate your work, it's important to know these things and I get a kick out of your sense of humor, keep up the good videos!

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent testing. I long ago learned that Stabil worked on my stored equipment better than trying to drain/run the engine dry. When they switched in my area from MTBE to ethanol I started having a lot of problems come springtime. A few years ago I tried ethanol free gasoline and the last couple of storage seasons that is all that I've used. And the last couple of springtimes have been uneventful (at least as far as fuel systems go). I still have a few carbs I need to tear down and rebuild and my ethanol-poisoned gasoline recovery will be complete.

  • @jerryvolpini7987
    @jerryvolpini7987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I came, I saw, I was thoroughly entertained! And hey, I learned something along the way - good stuff!

  • @kylepritchard6557
    @kylepritchard6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Such an entertaining way of going about these actually super useful videos. I would have loved to have seen a secondary control with ethanol free gas just for reference sake as a comparative.

  • @OldSchoolDelta
    @OldSchoolDelta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and perfect timing! I am starting to think about bike storage and this is one of the things I wasn't certain about 👍

  • @zkahen
    @zkahen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job once again, and cogratz on the 1M! you deserve way more!

  • @negrolee6775
    @negrolee6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *Definitely feels like I should be paying to watch this in Netflix, AWESOME!!* 👏🏼🥇👏🏼

  • @xtremebroccoli
    @xtremebroccoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A video on adjusting suspension and what preload, damping, etc is would be great! I understand how important proper suspension set up is but have never owned a bike with adjustable suspension to do it myself. Love the channel!!

    • @berticusmaximus8381
      @berticusmaximus8381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tons on the net. I suggest Dave Moss videos.

  • @The_Pub_
    @The_Pub_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the reason I subscribed...Every Thing that you do has a story to it..Keeps it interesting..

  • @coltonbrown5055
    @coltonbrown5055 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad has used Stabil in our lawn mowers every winter for years (antifreeze and antioxidation are important for the winters) and it's allowed our mowers to last over 2 decades. When it's time for bike storage, it's likely I'll use it to help my bike. Glad for the new info in the video

  • @JacobST17
    @JacobST17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I stored my bikes on the 30th with Sta-bil. just made me feel a lot better about my choice.

    • @LeDank
      @LeDank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. It’s been 2 months now. 2 more an Im hoping she starts up like new.

    • @hemisuperzee1287
      @hemisuperzee1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Used that for over thirty years. Its proven.

  • @michaelvachon1334
    @michaelvachon1334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "...dog park after a snow-melt..." You kill me, Ryan! Thanks for the objective examination into the world of snake-oil additives. I can at least now make an 'educated' choice when selecting a stabilizer.

  • @georgesteffens7489
    @georgesteffens7489 ปีที่แล้ว

    The least dry and most entertaining comparison of fuel stabilizers I’ve seen yet, well done thank you for sharing!!

  • @allanlaxdal5424
    @allanlaxdal5424 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am a fan of Stabil , in the bikes/quad/lawnmower/rotortiller, have used it for years and am always grateful come spring.

  • @garypunter412
    @garypunter412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The production of your videos Ryan, are almost Hollywood standards.
    Love it, and long may it continue.

  • @christianmarche993
    @christianmarche993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    For the last 22 years I've filled my bike with high octane fuel and the whole bottle of Stabil. Rode it home to let the Stabil reach the carbs and parked full of fuel on paddock stands it in a dry garage (dehumidifier) with fresh oil in the sump, teaspoon of oil in each cylinder then cranked, new spark plugs and a Battery Tender. 30k miles and 22 years pulled the engine and carbs apart to do a bigbore kit and head work. Not ONE spec of rust, varnished fuel or corrosion ever. The tank is immaculate and the engine has virtually no wear. Oil was changed religiously 1000k miles or 12 every November with synthetic Silkolene. I park it at the first sign that salt will be put on the roads and fire it back up 3 good rainstorms past the final winter salting. My snow blower gets the same treatment and is 17 years old.

    • @ntdanny
      @ntdanny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Sounds like you spend more time and money servicing and preserving than riding lol

    • @MrWesty500
      @MrWesty500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I'd hazard a guess that your rigorous overwinter procedure and the high octane fuel (which has no ethanol, at least in UK for now) has more to do with the lack of rust than any additive you are throwing in the tank!

    • @christianmarche993
      @christianmarche993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ntdanny its a mixed bag. I enjoy wrenching as much as riding.

    • @christianmarche993
      @christianmarche993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrWesty500 my garden machines get the same treatment but are stored outside in a shed. They are just as good. My use of Stabil in high doses never left me with stale fuel come the spring. I've seen lower doses of Stabilizer not work.

    • @nyedavis922
      @nyedavis922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      60000 miles on my triumph, ride it all year, don't bother with any of that, just clean it when it's dirty, service it when the manual says to. No problems, it's a vehicle, use it

  • @aidenalex7964
    @aidenalex7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've watched every fortnine video more than twice never watching this thinking it wasn't relevant to me as i don't understand chemistry and live in a warmer climate but goddamn if this isn't one of the best ones. Thank you Ryan and Aneesh

  • @andyk4676
    @andyk4676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10/10. I live in Queensland, Aus where it’s never too cold to ride, but I still watched the whole thing. No one is doing better content on TH-cam

  • @emceeborja
    @emceeborja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've used Stabil in my motorcycle that was stored for two years when I lived overseas. The motorcycle still started when I returned. However, I siphoned out as much fuel as I could and put fresh gas to dilute whatever was left.

    • @imthedarknight-8755
      @imthedarknight-8755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best solution I can come up with is to siphon drain the tank or run it dry, doesn't matter what fuel then. Although rust might be a bigger problem then

    • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
      @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@imthedarknight-8755 Get some fogging oil. Douse the inside of the tank. Either let it burn off when you fill the tank with fresh gas in the spring, or if really paranoid, flush the tank.

    • @N3ttwerk
      @N3ttwerk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I do the same, use the siphoned gas in the lawn mower. Replace bike with new gas.

  • @MikeBarnett1776
    @MikeBarnett1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't use Seafoam as a stabilizer, as we ride year round here in Florida - but I do run it through my tank every once in a while. When I bought my used, low mileage, but older Shadow 750, the carb was a bit scuzzy - and two tanks of fuel didn't improve it much. But adding 6 ounces of Seafoam to the 3rd tankful did the trick in about 100 miles - no more off the line stumble or hesitation. No, I wouldn't leave it sitting in my tank over a winter, as I've heard of the oxidation issue, but as a fuel injector/carburetor cleaning treatment, I think it's a pretty good product.

  • @doobielawson702
    @doobielawson702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing in your videos is top notch. You create excellent videos, very nice work.

  • @phil4986
    @phil4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the finest no bullshxx explanation of fuel stabilizers I have ever seen.
    Oustanding work FortNine...subscribed.

  • @bernardoestevao398
    @bernardoestevao398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Production level is amazing. Unbelievable. Great work!

    • @mikem9953
      @mikem9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know right.
      Nothing better to do in Canada? I hear it’s BEAUTIFUL! It has to be a dual sport riders dream, which begs the question, why the KLR???

  • @XxScorpionKingxX1
    @XxScorpionKingxX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the work that was put into this 💯

  • @Sebastian-oo7xi
    @Sebastian-oo7xi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryan and the hole team behind the camera: you alone will soon convert me to a motorcyclist if I am not careful enough with the consumption of your high quality - highly addictive content!
    A week ago I would never have dreamed about it, and I am not even into cars etc. in general. You are topnotch!

  • @tysoncott7402
    @tysoncott7402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have used sta-bil for years here during kansas winters, never once have i had a problem with the product 👍

  • @wizetek
    @wizetek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Selling all my fuel stabilizer stock before this video spreads worldwide causing a huge price drop.

  • @Stivsh
    @Stivsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy shit man, the quality of your content ... I feel guilty watching this for free

  • @SaltyandSprinkles
    @SaltyandSprinkles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Live in Houston, don’t put the bike up for winter, still watched and hung on every word and cinematic experience. I want my channel to be up to this one day!! Quality as always.

  • @darrendeluca8938
    @darrendeluca8938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They say that the best educational videos are the ones that entertain. Story is king when making a good video. This was probably one of the best I've seen in a long time. You took a topic that by all rights should be boring AF and made it great. Well done.

  • @L0rdDarkness
    @L0rdDarkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    5:54
    You really need to defrost that freezer man.

    • @1121494
      @1121494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hence "Canada Box".

    • @coffeestainedwreck
      @coffeestainedwreck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's just an extra Canada Canada Box.

    • @pietrovardi9583
      @pietrovardi9583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      clean box would not be that dramatic and illustrative :)

    • @DaveDefrane602
      @DaveDefrane602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A frosted freezer is actually less effective than a non frosted freezer. Alot of people think that it's frosted "therefore it must be cold" but the frost actually acts as an insulator not allowing the coils to absorb the warmer air inside the freezer. Gotta defrost that box!!!

    • @L0rdDarkness
      @L0rdDarkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaveDefrane602 Yeah, might be so...But what use do you have with a fridge that cant hold anything in it because of massive ice-buildup?
      Besides, this aint the 50's, modern fridges has enough insulation as is, jackass.

  • @dralexmclean
    @dralexmclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm impressed with the effort that went into that video. WELL done! Chevron 94 octane has NO alcohol. Also another option is drain the tank and run some synthetic gas into the system which (supposedly??) is VERY stable and should prevent start issues in the spring. The other option is to move to Vancouver where you can ride basically year round - again very clever move Ryan.

    • @GPz84
      @GPz84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually here in B.C. Chevron 94 does have ethonol. That's what gives it the high octane boost. 91 ethonol free.

    • @Schaden81
      @Schaden81 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And as of now, all Chevron gas has ethanol.

  • @epicmotorcyclechannel307
    @epicmotorcyclechannel307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are an inspiration to all other motorcycle channels out there, including ours.

  • @JDnBeastlet
    @JDnBeastlet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video - If TH-cam gets better than this, I haven't seen it. Aneesh and Ryan, keep up the good work!
    FWIW it's ethanol-free Shell premium for me - all the time because in-season my bike may sit up to two weeks between rides. Sta-bil for the winter, run through the carbs, and float bowls drained.

  • @frosch90453
    @frosch90453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Just in Time fot the end of motorcycling-season

    • @Bush0r
      @Bush0r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What a coincidence.

    • @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname
      @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Here in Arizona motorcycle season never ends

    • @ryanberry6853
      @ryanberry6853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i live in new orleans.. FELLA, we ride all year long, their isnt a end to thus seasun

    • @motoryzen
      @motoryzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't be a wuss. Layer up and ride year around. They make battery powered heated gloves, handlebar mits and balaclavas for good reasons xD

    • @GamerGetsFIT
      @GamerGetsFIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@motoryzen does it not snow where you live? Or ice?

  • @DLoh2o1
    @DLoh2o1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting. I've used Sea Foam in every combustion motor I have had and have always considered it one of the reasons I've had so little trouble

    • @highplainsdrifter9631
      @highplainsdrifter9631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. But I also use ethanol-free gasoline almost exclusively. Only in my Tacoma do I run ethanol gas, and even then I'll run the tank to empty before filling back up with ethanol-free. And the truck gets ethanol-free gas exclusively throughout the fall and winter, due to ethanol gas having a higher freezing point(temperature). Motorcycle, ATV, and all small engine equipment gets ethanol-free gasoline exclusively, especially 2 stroke engines. The fastest way to kill a 2 stroke engine is to run gasoline in it that contains ethanol.

  • @joshbittner3424
    @joshbittner3424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!
    Would love to see where BG products stack up in the realm of fuel additives

  • @ethancooper767
    @ethancooper767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am suffering from a rusted out tank because of the winter storage from last year with "stabilizer". Glad i watched this so i don't repeat the rusty nightmare again!

  • @natanpierce495
    @natanpierce495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Reviewed 11 months later...still LOVE it! Great job! Would you consider a future episode of comparing non-ethanol fuels? VP, AV gas, and others? Thank you.

    • @noob2x
      @noob2x ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope he covers Boost Juice injection
      !

  • @johnschlesinger2009
    @johnschlesinger2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video: very informative. In the UK, one can buy fuel without ethanol, which is what I always use. Never had a startup problem after six months off the road, whether in a garage or outdoors.

    • @ivan9066
      @ivan9066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even in Eastern Europe gasoline gets ~10% ethanol, 7months without a cover and had no problems with starting again.

    • @johnschlesinger2009
      @johnschlesinger2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have used Putoline fuel stabilizer for years, never had a problem, but that was before ethanol was added to our fuel. The best we can get is now 5%. I stored some E10 in a can for my lawnmower, without stabilizer, and it took more than 20 tugs on the starter to get the thing going.

  • @kakarote2277
    @kakarote2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!! Great knowledge to be had. I use Stabil in a generator and NEVER has the generator not started on the first pull while using stabil.
    The generator may sit for over a year without being used, but always starts! (DISCLAIMER....I live in South Carolina so freezing weather is far and few).

  • @TheKingofFiends
    @TheKingofFiends 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motorcycle content at its finest. Congrats on the 1 Million sub mark!

  • @larryfromwisconsin9970
    @larryfromwisconsin9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up in Northern Minnesota so I know your pain in Canada. We put up our boat outboard engines in the fall and got out the snowmobiles. We didn't have fuel stabilizers then that I knew about. We had carbeurators with a drain plug. When going into storage we filled the tank with ethanol free gas, maybe adding a little motor oil to the gas. Then drain the carbs. When taking out of storage we drained the gas -- dispose of the bad gas by adding a little at a time to the car gas tank. New gas, open the petcock and go. I don't know about fuel injection. I am still riding a 1988 Harley. Actually I don't know about winterizing anymore. I live now in South Texas and ride my Harley all year round.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      non-ethanol is amazing. but i don't recommend draining the carbs if its only going to sit for 4-6 months. thats not enough time for fresh fuel to do any appreciable harm, and it will just dry out the carb gaskets. nothing to worry about, but i leave them full of fuel.

    • @johndelorean7353
      @johndelorean7353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ct1762 i leave it full of fuel, and start the bike every now and then.

  • @2loudspeakers
    @2loudspeakers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality production as always! And good testing.

  • @jetlag4free621
    @jetlag4free621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching videos of thunderstorms and then I listen to music I like like delta parole or metallica! Nothing better and more relaxing like that!

  • @amarchahal9405
    @amarchahal9405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    we need more vids lol
    love them

  • @thecman26
    @thecman26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    This is why I buy ethanol free fuel for my bike!

    • @ZX9RDan
      @ZX9RDan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      True ethanol free gas is hard to find. Even with the PureGas app. I tested several jas stations around here, and they all had some.

    • @JSBroomhall
      @JSBroomhall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ZX9RDan In Canada, both Esso and Shell premium fuels have no ethanol.

    • @HooDRidEWhiteY
      @HooDRidEWhiteY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JSBroomhall any idea where us US guys should be looking? I always put the pricy shit in my bikes and never worry about it

    • @mayorofnow
      @mayorofnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HooDRidEWhiteY pure-gas.org is hit-or-miss, but a good start if you don't have any other leads.
      Many Maverik stations serve ethanol-free gas. It comes in a cyan blue handle, independent of the unleaded or diesel handles.
      Some airports and boat docks have ethanol-free gas that is acceptable for highway engines (such as UL94). Check first though, as not all aviation fuel is suitable for a highway engine.
      You can also buy prepackaged containers of gasoline online (e.g. Sure Starter or TruFuel), but those run about $20/gallon. If you need reserve gasoline for a remote expedition or need to winterize your bike once a year, might be worth the convenience. Not worth the extra cost for every fill-up though.

    • @samgome01
      @samgome01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmm so would emptying your tank should be done before storing or would just starting it once in a while fix that?

  • @Thomas-xx7fr
    @Thomas-xx7fr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been using Sta-Bil for years... Glad I got lucky with my choice and great video!

  • @2wheelhomie665
    @2wheelhomie665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this type of content so much makes me feel like I’m watching a movie sometimes defy my fav style of videos 🙌🏽👍🏽

  • @nicktervoort
    @nicktervoort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I love these tests!! Best motorcycle channel on TH-cam, there is no competition at this level