Which Chain Cleaner is Best? Comparison Test

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2019
  • Ryan goes deep into the dizzying world of motorcycle chain cleaners, talking about lubrication, rubber, penetration and...er, I think it's better if you just watch the video.
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    WD-40 Multi-Purpose Lubricant - frt9.co/m2lew9
    Simple Green Cleaner & Degreaser - frt9.co/90ah8e
    Oxford Mint Chain Cleaner - frt9.co/ln074l
    Motorex Chain Clean - frt9.co/swo4rm
    iPone Chain Cleaner Spray - frt9.co/a1gn0b
    Muc-Off Chain Cleaner - frt9.co/dvy0cj
    Maxima Chain Cleaner - frt9.co/nt6i4x
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  • @euph31
    @euph31 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1388

    Man, if I ever get a motorcycle I’ll have such a wealth of knowledge. Until then, I’m just a guy with no bike watching this channel.

    • @finlays3minutedebate
      @finlays3minutedebate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Don't worry dude, you'll get there

    • @anderslolle2147
      @anderslolle2147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah, there is a big family out there, ready to wellcome you my dude 👍

    • @redeyedfreaks
      @redeyedfreaks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Then you enter the, I have a motorcycle but insurance is trying to rob me, camp. Lol

    • @juanp7021
      @juanp7021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Make it two

    • @breakwood8531
      @breakwood8531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ACL9000 don’t forget ramp or trailer then mechanical hoping it pass without extra cost and finally taxes. I just been through it and I wish I would saw your message before I bought a R3, because it’s important knowing about the extra money and insurances won’t give ya a break unless you have the course. Thanks.

  • @nicholasspinicelli2911
    @nicholasspinicelli2911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2287

    Seriously this is the most informative and valuable motorcycle info source available anywhere. Thank you for all you do guys, can't wait for the chain lube video!

    • @pbassred
      @pbassred 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed. The cycling community is all over this, but they don't have o-rings to deal with. Motorbike chains are higher tension so most cycle chain cleaning tools won't work. and unlike cycles. a jammed chain could send you down the road at horrifying speeds, so it more important to do a good job.

    • @ncgsc
      @ncgsc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @robbessell5704
      @robbessell5704 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here here. such a great deal of thought goes into this

    • @ULTRAVISTA.
      @ULTRAVISTA. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Besides Forty Times Around of course!

    • @naanon9427
      @naanon9427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      B.S. tests to sell chain lube products backed up by the thumbs up posts of people working in the motorcycle industry and suckers who believe them.

  • @subhrajitghosh666
    @subhrajitghosh666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +713

    Responsible adults have great concern for the integrity of their rubber.

    • @rony.482
      @rony.482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ryan is a national treasure

    • @assasin101011
      @assasin101011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Condom

    • @JohnDoe-xr5is
      @JohnDoe-xr5is 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rony.482 ....America needs some national treasures about now. Can we share him?

    • @abhijithabhi58
      @abhijithabhi58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @john doe but yiu have Homelander

    • @umeshofficial13
      @umeshofficial13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha

  • @lakshmans770
    @lakshmans770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    "I expect the oil of Switzerland to occupy a neutral place in our contest" - hahahah! Ryan's sense of humor is great!

  • @0235681956
    @0235681956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    I didn't expect the balloon to burst. Shit got serious after that.

    • @kopial
      @kopial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I find this test misleading. Rubber o-rings are not made from the same material as a balloon. These rings need to withstand extreme temperatures (heat from the chain itself & winter cold) as well as abrasion... definitely not a balloon material, maybe vulcanized or synthetic rubber.

    • @SmartMass
      @SmartMass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kopial please see 6:39

    • @olenilsen4660
      @olenilsen4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ...Which is probably why they also did the test with proper O-rings...

    • @kopial
      @kopial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SmartMass i know... that's why I say misleading as it includes an inaccurate test among the good tests they did.

    • @haiducchu
      @haiducchu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's great to see that I can pop balloons with chain cleaner

  • @Lancaster604
    @Lancaster604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    No more he say she say with cleaners and chemicals. Fortnine bringing objective science based tests.
    Game changer!
    *Adding Ipone to my shopping cart~
    *Waiting for lube vid~

    • @acopernic
      @acopernic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tout pareil. Quand on a un conseil de pro on joue pas les apprentis mécaniciens.

    • @ben.justben5597
      @ben.justben5597 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep c'est en plein ça

    • @skidooboy8977
      @skidooboy8977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      there's a joke somewhere in there about lube and videos..........

    • @wheeltrouble
      @wheeltrouble 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Can't wait to see which lube is safe for all my rubbers!

    • @srenblackgaard9982
      @srenblackgaard9982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Great video, but one thing I feel should be mentioned: WD-40 (or "Water Displacement, 40th Formula") is not a lubricant, despite containing some (VERY thin) mineral oil. It is not a cleaner, though it contains some solvent. It is not a penetrating oil. No, as perhaps the most misused aerosol in everyone's toolbox, it is a crude rust inhibitor originally created for thin-walled missile fuel tanks. Please people, do not think your chain is cleaned and lubricated with WD-40 (or that it's doing much to free up rusty nuts). Use the right tool.

  • @keithmays5392
    @keithmays5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Interesting since I've used Motul products for years and had a chain last for 30k miles easily. I think the most important thing is that you clean and lube it regularly. Also keep the chain adjusted.

    • @TheWobbinator1
      @TheWobbinator1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      As long as you lube your chain after cleaning it, a cleaner slipping past the O-Ring itself isn't going to harm the chain. O-rings don't create a vacuum seal so as long as the cleaner isn't degrading the rings themselves, you're in good shape. I love motul chain cleaner and their lubricant is right up there with pj1 blue label for me.

    • @QrisuMies
      @QrisuMies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was scared that i'll ruin my chains, but this clears it up. Thank you.

    • @VarunBhargavan
      @VarunBhargavan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@TheWobbinator1 Isn't it a problem if the cleaner leak past the o-ring, dissolve the grease inside and leak out, taking the grease with it? What we need to know is if this scenario is possible. If not, the cleaner leaking in shouldn't raise any issues.

    • @thagingerninjer5391
      @thagingerninjer5391 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think it's important to find out if orings we're lubed before they were tightened, because if they weren't, it's very possible that the orings tore, skewing results.

    • @oktayx189
      @oktayx189 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also the chain is like 100 bucks :) A few thousand miles hardly matters.

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I cannot believe the amount of incredible preparation and forethought that went into this production. Your testing methodologies are simple, elegant and appropriate. Great job, Ryan!

  • @kacperk886
    @kacperk886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    Before the video: I hope the chain cleaner I bought isn't awful.
    After the video: Dammit.

    • @thursdayfan
      @thursdayfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same thought here... I usually use Motorex and in a pinch, Motul (since it's available at the dealership right by me)

    • @NERDCoGaming
      @NERDCoGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I done fucked up..

    • @unboxingmaniac5050
      @unboxingmaniac5050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I use motul on my o ring chain.. holy shit

    • @gavinkerber7165
      @gavinkerber7165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I use Maxima... time to change I guess haha

    • @akiwiincanada
      @akiwiincanada 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I always used kerosene, and I'm just about to replace my chain ... I won't be using it on the new one!

  • @Majesenmoto
    @Majesenmoto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    And this, my friends, is the most useful video of 2019. Period.

    • @scrambler
      @scrambler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Majes calmate coño que estás en todas las salsas

    • @samsare6034
      @samsare6034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And 2020 as well...

    • @DnakDnak
      @DnakDnak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And 2021 as well...

    • @stevencc2630
      @stevencc2630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      El majes está en todas 👌

    • @dmartinr41
      @dmartinr41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MAJES?!?!

  • @Bolensgoldrush
    @Bolensgoldrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Videos like this are incredible. In under 10 minutes Ryan:
    - Compared a multitude of chain cleaners using various tests
    - Demonstrated proper chain-cleaning methods
    - Gave a crash-course on the innerworkings of a chain
    - Kept us entertained

    • @pooljunki1
      @pooljunki1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but he used wd40 not wd40 chain degreaser.

  • @bennettsbikesocial
    @bennettsbikesocial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Brilliant point regarding a cleaner washing past the O-rings! I originally did that long soak video after seeing a much shorter test by Motorcyclist Magazine (looking back on our old videos is never a good idea - how did I think that audio was okay?!). I've unlisted it now, as while products like WD-40 won't damage an O-ring, I certainly wouldn't recommend cleaning a chain with something that's predominantly solvent, and has such good penetrative qualities.
    I'm working on lube and cleaner tests at the moment - I did scrap the plans after seeing yours, but have picked it up again as I'll be focussing more on products available in the UK. As always, top work! Cheers, John Milbank

    • @azeemkhan2534
      @azeemkhan2534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nvm nvm nun km name nun km Mk name hmm?!!nn

    • @Theriion
      @Theriion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John, any chance you could share the link for your video pls?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theriion th-cam.com/video/noshjM5CDas/w-d-xo.html

    • @conradsimas2191
      @conradsimas2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would love to see normal motorcycle cleaners in there like S100 and Fenwick's!! It is quite convenient to use the same cleaner and wash chain at same time.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conradsimas2191 In that case, here you go. A FULL test of 69 cleaners... th-cam.com/video/9NsFLPDgFqA/w-d-xo.html Cheers, John

  • @alfstewart2082
    @alfstewart2082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Still the best bike channel on YT👍 also Ryan rocks👊

    • @ncgsc
      @ncgsc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This guy needs a million + subscribers. Definitely UNDERRATED

    • @pauldavison2116
      @pauldavison2116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do not praise him too much or he will not be able to find a helmet to fit! ;-)

  • @rewerts85
    @rewerts85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Can't get enough of these videos.

    • @YoussefBahaji
      @YoussefBahaji 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pete tar get back to work Jim

  • @georgempouk
    @georgempouk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Ari did a test like that in the mc garage and found the same results. Hurray for experimenting!

  • @kino266
    @kino266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your videos are truly the best, the way you test things and the production quality are out of this world ryan. Keep it going, the motorcycle community loves you !

  • @JK-qj9qp
    @JK-qj9qp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Meanwhile the motorcycle community and people I used to ride with thought I was stupid for using simple green so they used motul and motorex instead. Thanks for the great content as always Fortnine.

    • @Wolham
      @Wolham 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I'm putting my motul cleaner in the bin after seeing this.

    • @BillyJoe1305
      @BillyJoe1305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've always been a Simple Green & any oil guy. Of course I also avoid sealed chains on purpose.

    • @URCAcZe
      @URCAcZe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Wolham I feel like doing the same * crying in the corner with a box full of Motul chain cleaner and lube *

    • @deathwish8339
      @deathwish8339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillyJoe1305 because you hate paying 5× the price of a non-sealed chain for 10× or more longevity?

    • @BillyJoe1305
      @BillyJoe1305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deathwish8339 my experience isn't that I get 10x longevity, I'm pretty diligent about keeping my chain lubed. Squirt some slippery gunk on it every other day and it lasts about 3/4 the time. Last time I bought one it was half price, not a fifth though. You pricing bicycle chains or something?
      I'll probably have to change my tune soon though, I'm looking at aluminum sprockets. I'll need a modern chain then.

  • @madcockney
    @madcockney 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    You have to be careful when testing on balloons, not just because they will explode, but because of the rubber composition. Other than specialist balloons, most that you buy at your local store, etc are made from natural latex. The chain's X and O rings are made from Nitrile. Nitrile can be of many different compositions depending on what it is to be used for therefore it is highly likely that Kerosene will have no affect on those Nitrile O and X ring seals. (In fact one of the reasons that Nitrile is generally used in industry, etc, is its resistance to oils and fuels.) Suzuki used O ring chains, originally made by DID but not sure if they still are, and were recommending cleaning the chain with Kerosene and probably still are. So unless the balloon was made of Nitrile then that part of the test was a fail, though funny.

    • @helderduarte213
      @helderduarte213 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is why he made the test with the orings.

    • @madcockney
      @madcockney ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@helderduarte213 That's pretty obvious, isn't it?

    • @themikevlad
      @themikevlad ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the leak / seal test was also poor as the bottom of the surface wasn't supported. But fun to watch :))

    • @syafiqsyazwan9871
      @syafiqsyazwan9871 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can i use diesel to clean my O-ring chain?

    • @theclinger
      @theclinger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@syafiqsyazwan9871 Similar to using kero.

  • @SQUAD012
    @SQUAD012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how thorough he is with the experiment and simple enough to understand and it's not even that long of a video. Cool & informative.

  • @burnhamwallace1744
    @burnhamwallace1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ryan you are the hardest working guy in the Moto TH-cam world, the lube and cleaning test for chain products was very well done. I learned more than I thought possible, Thanks to my favorite Canadian on two wheels.

  • @SomeDudeOnline
    @SomeDudeOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    WD-40 makes a chain cleaner specific product and it’s far more effective than regular wd-40. It comes out in a jet and foams on contact. It’s what I’m currently using, seems to work well but it would’ve been cool to see it in this vid.

    • @innocuousmerchant8766
      @innocuousmerchant8766 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      penrite in Australia is fairly similar, foams up and removes heaps of shit right immediately.

  • @killllllllllllllerrr
    @killllllllllllllerrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seriously, never stop making these videos. I am happy to wait 2/3 weeks for an upload of such quality.

  • @TechNinjaPro
    @TechNinjaPro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just bought my first motorcycle. Thank you for guiding me through this new life with these amazing videos

  • @aarongood5496
    @aarongood5496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The editing quality and humor of this channel is amazing!

  • @motorpsych
    @motorpsych 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is where logic surpasses emotion. I LOVE bikes with all my heart, but I buy with my head. This review is orders of magnitude more informative than any other I have seen. And some of the innuendo is just delicious! You are the best , Ryan. Respect and fame become you.

  • @Derpyderpderper
    @Derpyderpderper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    5:28
    *"Now, responsible adults have great concern for the integrity of their rubber."*
    I seem to be hearing something else unrelated to chain cleaning in the background

  • @nickx8411
    @nickx8411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    23k miles on stock chain, SUZ DR650 unmodified. Mostly commuting, occasional sandy trail rides. Cleaned every 600 miles (or after each sand ride, whichever came first) with kerosene, lubed with Maxima Chain Wax. I really can't argue with that kind of longevity. However, I might convert to Simple Green after seeing this vid. Thanks for all you do.

  • @phant0
    @phant0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After experimenting with a few things I just settled on using gear oil both to clean and to lubricate my chain. It's cheap, accessible, safe for your seals, it's what my bike manufacturer recommends and if some of it stays in your chain after you wipe it off it won't cause any problems.
    The way I do it is:
    - Apply the thickest and cheapest gear oil I could buy on the dirty chain. I have a small thumb pump oiler just for that.
    - Use a chain brush to break free any solid particles that have stuck so they are in suspension in said oil
    - Wipe it all off with a rag or shop towel
    - Apply gear oil on the now clean chain
    - Spread it and wipe the excess with a clean rag or shop towel
    It takes less than 5 minutes to do and I do it once a week without any issues. IMO chain cleaners and specialized lubricants are just a way to extract more money out of you. Exception may be done for chain wax if you drive a lot through very wet conditions so it makes a barrier against corrosion that will stay on your chain better.

    • @Ephesians-xt4xc
      @Ephesians-xt4xc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have been going crazy from so much conflicting info out there, but I think I will try your method with gear oil only. Thanks for the info. Can I ask, is 75W-90 ok? Or should I go with a heavier oil?

  • @tw1nair
    @tw1nair 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is how you conduct proper testing!
    Well done, love your videos.

  • @correawest
    @correawest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This channel is bringing its “A” game to the field! Love the work put into this topic and the science behind it!

  • @rodrigotorres480
    @rodrigotorres480 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best video ever done about this subject, never saw one with such range of tests... Congrats!

  • @Craxyman999
    @Craxyman999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo honestly man.. you have a amazing channel! Iv been watching your videos the past few weeks learning all I can about motorcycle gear, safety, etc. All awesome videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @ipdjbt
    @ipdjbt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I've been using WD40 as a cleaner for 30 years now and have always gotten good lifespan out of my chains. Thanks to these results I'll continue to use WD40.

    • @WatchurbackFF
      @WatchurbackFF ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everytime u use only wd40 for cleaning chain or
      anyother chain cleaners to?

    • @ipdjbt
      @ipdjbt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WD40 is the only thing I've ever used. Sorry for the year old reply, lol.@@WatchurbackFF

  • @TheExplosionboom
    @TheExplosionboom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hats off to Ryan and the guys at FortNine for making this! Great info, expertly done. looking forward to the next one on chain lube.

  • @maartenboot3670
    @maartenboot3670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "A success otherwise known as failure." That got me :)

  • @ZsKom92
    @ZsKom92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comparison had it coming since ages, thank you Ryan! F9 is the best moto source on YT

  • @My17A
    @My17A 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been using only WD-40 on my chain for cleaning and lubing for years and have gotten 30,000 kms out of most chains. I spray it on after every ride whether I do a 700 km day or only 10 kms to Timmies for a coffee. Chain looks brand new all the time. Only time you get any fling off on the rear wheel is if you spray it on and then immediately go riding. Wait a while and it will dry and you will never get any fling off. I do about 18000 kms per season here in Canada and go through about three cans a year @ $6.00 can x 3 for $18.00 yearly.

  • @richlavigne3174
    @richlavigne3174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Great video, very well done using a scientific method. I was very surprised on the O-ring bypass test, especially sense most chain manufactures recommend Kerosene as a cleaner. I think your test fixture could be causing more random results than the affect cleaner type. I suspect that using HVAC sheet metal is way too thin to have consistent o-ring pressure, even when applying constant torque. The thin metal could collapse and randomly cause a leak path past the ring. I think if you had a metal cup with the same thickness as the a typical link plate your results could be very different.

    • @smugmode
      @smugmode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which chain cleaner do you use? I was thinking the same thing. I tried using WD40 but it does a poor job compared to old lady kerosene.

    • @jstnnnnn
      @jstnnnnn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Shared some concern here. Were these holes all drilled to the same tolerance? Did the metal deform under load, causing the o-ring surface to be anything but planar?

    • @fasic46
      @fasic46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about disel? Old mechanics use it to clean engine space, there is plastic, ruber and all othere stuff, and it doesn't make any damage to it

    • @stevesmith6236
      @stevesmith6236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fasic46 diesel fuel is a less refined form of kerosene .

    • @Sreenivas0071
      @Sreenivas0071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nichlas Rehnstam correct

  • @scha0306
    @scha0306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So, after having watched both of these totally excellent videos (chain clean, chain lube), for the bargain shoppers amongst us, it's WD-40 to clean (because most importantly, it does not penetrate the O or X rings), and gear oil for lube? That is great info. And here I used to clean my X-ring chains with kerosene, on the regular. Not no mo. Thanks Ryan and crew, this is news we can use.

    • @brettvictory4606
      @brettvictory4606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gear oil can get quite messy if you are not careful. It will sling off your chain faster most other products.

    • @dr.jekyll2017
      @dr.jekyll2017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WD-40 is not a lube. It is a water displacer. Hints W.D.

    • @looseparts
      @looseparts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dr.jekyll2017 The comment you're responding to said "WD-40 to clean" and gear oil to lube - he didn't say WD-40 to lube.

    • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
      @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh...WD-40 and a brush & old rag to clean the chain, and Bel-Ray Super Clean for a lube. Flawless. I'd use Ipone to clean, but have yet to find anyone selling it in the US.

    • @moteroargentino7944
      @moteroargentino7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just use diesel to clean and lithium grease to lubricate. Both cheap and readily available. Motorcycle specific products tend to be overpriced in my opinion.

  • @nathanielnolt3518
    @nathanielnolt3518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of the best consumer product tests I've ever seen in the motorcycle world--the only competition being your chain lube test. Unfortunately, we basically can't get Ipone in the states. So simple green + my 360 degree brush it is for me...

  • @katdareaniket
    @katdareaniket 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is insanely well done... Awesome work guys

  • @joematthews3379
    @joematthews3379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I thought this was a Project Farm video when I first clicked on it.

    • @Timochat_
      @Timochat_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Huzza ! A man of culture !

    • @bernardomotard
      @bernardomotard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly we needed a project farm type channel for motorcycle things

    • @noahlippert7571
      @noahlippert7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But u were gifted with something even better

    • @LTLT900
      @LTLT900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.

    • @3-body-problem
      @3-body-problem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love his channel but can't deal with his voice.

  • @izmael_kneafcy
    @izmael_kneafcy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had good results using Muc Off. It may not perform the best on the cleaning score, but I like that it doesn’t penetrate the seals and is highly available where I live. Great review!!

  • @limitless1692
    @limitless1692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video took a huge amount of time and effort to be made
    Thank you man!

  • @Adept1780
    @Adept1780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Wd40 chain cleaner (designed by em for cleaning chains) should have put that one on as I used it on my chain and came up spotless!

    • @DevinJuularValentine
      @DevinJuularValentine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah came here to say that. You don't need to even scrub, but I'd be interested in how it affects o rings... It is expensive though

    • @scldma114
      @scldma114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The chain gets clean indeed until you gotta throw it away as it destroys the o-ring. Bad experience with that, i still have a can left in the garage: i use it to clean everything else but the new chain i had to buy...

    • @Adept1780
      @Adept1780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scldma114 cheers for the info pal, only used it once worked wondersbut if buggers chain orings then will just ise it to clean areas of bike and what would you recommend for chain? Ta pal

    • @kirkjohnson9353
      @kirkjohnson9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scldma114 How many applications and how much time did it take to eat your chain?

    • @Mig76
      @Mig76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Why would they use regular wd40 when the brand has got a specific product for that purpose only?

  • @jesusj9958
    @jesusj9958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +416

    Why am I watching this my motorcycle uses a drive shaft

    • @Tuukkis
      @Tuukkis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Because the production is so bloody great

    • @DrFlyingRhombusAgain
      @DrFlyingRhombusAgain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      I don’t even have a motorcycle

    • @023188
      @023188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me too 😂

    • @MrHeepspo
      @MrHeepspo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shut up

    • @Mr.Winston
      @Mr.Winston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because you secretly want to get a KTM 😉

  • @owmylehg7811
    @owmylehg7811 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of a Project Farm video. Simple, Concise, and no bullshit. Great vid Ryan, and also very informative.

  • @scottbailey5644
    @scottbailey5644 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super thorough and empirical as ever. It's like these manufacturers have all reinvented the wheel, with varying results. I know what I'll be using from now on. Cheers

  • @kentfishburn7635
    @kentfishburn7635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    That's great! If ONLY I could find Ipone for sale in the US...

    • @itachi1540
      @itachi1540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Guess we're sticking to simple green for now :(

    • @BobbyDully__P
      @BobbyDully__P 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      use kerosene i guess

    • @djromana17
      @djromana17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BobbyDully__P in the video simple green is better than kerosene

    • @SpyLeb1
      @SpyLeb1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      djromana17 most of owner manuals recommend kerosene. I did use it and Motul and my o-orings never broke.

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SpyLeb1 but did the cleaner seep underneath the orings?

  • @steve5825
    @steve5825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ryan has turned his channel into the most informative and hilarious and thereby the best on here. Great product testing providing you can see through the tears of laughter.

    • @daveyjoseph6058
      @daveyjoseph6058 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not that funny

    • @xander4218
      @xander4218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daveyjoseph6058 shut up loser

  • @leosmilesu2
    @leosmilesu2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is both entertaining and very informative. Can't believe I watched it twice.
    Best video of it's category 👌 by far.
    Thank you guys

  • @badenshepherd9124
    @badenshepherd9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All fortnines vids are so much more helpful and informative then i expect when i click on them. Always leaves me with the feeling of “wow that was a really well made video” and end up clicking on the next.

  • @Ozzy62863
    @Ozzy62863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow I’ve been using maxima for years and works great. Interesting. Great video as always!

  • @000polsris000
    @000polsris000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "A success otherwise known as failure"
    Thanks for videos like this so I can keep referring back to your mostly scientific and unbiased reviews on maintenance products.

  • @marcoluoma3770
    @marcoluoma3770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the testing--opposite of hype. Someone obviously has a science background. And lovely penmanship to boot. Bravo.

  • @Snoupity
    @Snoupity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, you guys are flipping awesome. These tests were really decent.

  • @BuluBiker
    @BuluBiker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Lovely... So nicely explained

    • @rudraprasad5022
      @rudraprasad5022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bhai mobil pakeiki kama chaleidie mu😀

    • @devasishrout6570
      @devasishrout6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love you bulu bhai

    • @anand2331
      @anand2331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      boring

    • @nycscribe538
      @nycscribe538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bulu bhai aap yaha?

    • @Praise___YaH
      @Praise___YaH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guys, Here is the Original Semitic Text. HERE is The Savior
      YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
      From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
      "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
      Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
      Yad - "Behold The Hand"
      He - "Behold the Breath"
      Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

  • @liokalos
    @liokalos ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As Honda described in one of her old Japanese site.... Paraffin oil is the best Cleaner! I use simple Paraffin oil bought from a pharamacy. You can't imagine! Simply the Best. But i did love your test comparison

  • @pthrelkeld090
    @pthrelkeld090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Ryan, you sir are in ny top 3 favorite TH-cam channels over all. Which I know isn't saying much because I'm a nobody but considering how many interests I have, and subsequent channels I watch, there are a ton of contenders lol. And one of the reasons you are at the top is your pure consistency.

  • @hawk5504
    @hawk5504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an absolutely quality test. Great work.

  • @oliverglen4208
    @oliverglen4208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Easily the most comprehensive test I've seen. Well done.

  • @HeroRR
    @HeroRR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Awesome video! Thank you for this priceless information!

    • @Radioactive_Slime
      @Radioactive_Slime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Holy cow... It’s HeroRR! This is like going to the MotoGP and there’s Rossi sitting in front of you.
      Oh, and yeah, great video Ryan. I had already settled on Ipone after trying different cleaners over the years; now I know why. Great stuff. The video I mean. You to HeroRR.

    • @Tuukkis
      @Tuukkis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Radioactive_Slime dude, herorr is no doubt, a great guy. But if one makes YT videos, he is no god. No one is.

  • @eugene.derkach
    @eugene.derkach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely best and thorough analysis ever seen!!! Keep it up!

  • @tylersanders2388
    @tylersanders2388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This actually convinced me to get simple green. Average to above average performance, can be found anywhere, can be found very cheap especially if you find it on sale which it is bound to be because it’s a household product

  • @soapboxrides6753
    @soapboxrides6753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I watched all the way through even though my bike doesn't have a chain. Bravo, good job.

  • @Klint_Izwudd
    @Klint_Izwudd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Heart sank a little when I saw the kerosene fail, I've sworn by that for years.

    • @73dlb
      @73dlb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Klint Izwudd Yeah me too.

    • @hurlok
      @hurlok 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Kerosene only failed because of the rubber ring. If your chan doesn't have rubber rings, then its still a good pick.

    • @Klint_Izwudd
      @Klint_Izwudd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@hurlok yeah but in that case you can use straight up petrol which is even stronger.

    • @adrpals2324
      @adrpals2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I've been using kerosene on my chains for years. The chains in my motorcycle go up to 30kmiles to 35kmiles before replacing them.

    • @ljprep6250
      @ljprep6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hurlok ONLY if you use a chain lube, too.

  • @emmanuelquerol
    @emmanuelquerol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:41 the label looks so original and unique! it is so special, it has no pretensions, it is award-winning design

  • @ashwinipegsas4251
    @ashwinipegsas4251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s the best chain cleaner review I’ve ever watched on TH-cam.

  • @zark247
    @zark247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    LOL @4:44 top right corner : "Notice to employees"

    • @badasshuh69
      @badasshuh69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Anyone caught stealing bagels from the fridge will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law......😂

    • @MrHeepspo
      @MrHeepspo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good catch!

    • @jeedlebeetle7952
      @jeedlebeetle7952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zark247 I didn’t see it but when I looked closer I saw it

    • @humannature4327
      @humannature4327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rich people thing i guess ... I watch all the video in 240p any thing more than that and my data will leak like kerosene through rubber seal
      PS: I DON'T HAVE WI-FI CONNECTION,I GET 2 GB OF 4G DATA EVERY DAY, FOR 3 MONTHS IN ALMOST 7.5 $$

    • @prashantchaudhary5430
      @prashantchaudhary5430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you zoom into a video?

  • @firelo100
    @firelo100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Such great production quality made me want to buy Ipone immediately.
    I don’t own a motorcycle.

    • @kirkjohnson9353
      @kirkjohnson9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go to a biker bar with your pone and some rags and charge a couple bucks a pop. Make some new friends.

    • @madingahmar4420
      @madingahmar4420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kirk Johnson and then save up those bucks to buy a ride😁

    • @CanonMatters2Me
      @CanonMatters2Me 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get your point, but most “biker bars” ride Harleys...no chains...

    • @CanonMatters2Me
      @CanonMatters2Me 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plus, its French, so very expensive and not very effective. I can use dawn soap and give me a minute with a brush can get the chain looking very clean. So, dont fall for expensive ipone, kerosene works just fine. Plus, used motorex for over 10 years, never had a chain failure, use it every 3-400 miles, chains always lasted over 20k miles. No x or oring failures.

    • @kirkjohnson9353
      @kirkjohnson9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanonMatters2Me You make some great points. Thanks

  • @aquillanto7521
    @aquillanto7521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review! Love that there is no conflict of interest.

  • @gordonshaw6231
    @gordonshaw6231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most informative videos on the net, great humour and production, keep it going

  • @Redrider2k2
    @Redrider2k2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    60,000KMs on a DID chain mounted to a ZX-12R here.
    Cleaned with nothing but kerosene. Sometimes lubed with Maxima Chain Wax... Sometimes nothing.
    The chain still had life left and no issues. Simply replaced because I didn't want to push my luck.
    Your results may vary...

    • @HazardXXX
      @HazardXXX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CBR1100XX 4 years old chain 10k miles cleaned using White Spirit and after Muc-off or Wurth lubes. No problems still like new

  • @KafkaesqueRider
    @KafkaesqueRider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Amazing content as always!! Greetings from Mexico!

  • @justindoonerwind6076
    @justindoonerwind6076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ryan. We took your advice on, and chose the iPone Chain Cleaner Spray, It is absolutely fantastic, it cleaned the chain in no time... Thankz

  • @FlyLikeNasa1000
    @FlyLikeNasa1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use maxima for both chain cleaner and wax. And it leaves me amazed each time. Ive bought it 4x now. I highly recommend it

  • @Robnord1
    @Robnord1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You put a lot of work into this one! Thank you 👍👍
    I will stick with kerosene clean and 90W lube for my chains tho...cheap and effective.

    • @adrpals2324
      @adrpals2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been using kerosene since I bought my motorcycle. It is what the manual recommends for cleaning the chain.

  • @kawasjt
    @kawasjt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    4:28 did you just say "pi c'est ça". That's your mind telling you to come back to Montreal...

    • @hotcyr
      @hotcyr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL ! Did not catch that one, so funny !

    • @kimIIsungbitch
      @kimIIsungbitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Non il n' pas dit ca ^^

  • @VitalyMack
    @VitalyMack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn nikka, thats a hell of a lot of work for a chain cleaner vid! Much appreciated!

  • @ochoagd100
    @ochoagd100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rarely subscribe, but you definitely deserve it. Thank you for your time and effort.

  • @SurvivalCitizen
    @SurvivalCitizen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for this test! I agree, a cleaner leaking past/around the o-ring/x-ring into the factory grease is a NO-GO! Kerosene surprised me on that test, as that has always been my chosen cleaner.

    • @v1kku
      @v1kku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Survival Citizen I'd like to see all those tests repeated a few times with something stronger than that weak sheet metal in between the seals. That leakage was definitely from the test components failing, no reason any liquid will leak through that fast if there is a good seal.

    • @randymarks4011
      @randymarks4011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I suspect a bad test with the kero

  • @listofromantics
    @listofromantics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Simple Green - it's crazy cheap and a multi-tasker I can use EVERYWHERE.
    You wouldn't want to clean your bathroom, house, or kitchen with Ipone.

    • @MrBurrrG
      @MrBurrrG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or get 1 specifically for bike only. Use it for nothing else = a year of cleaner for your chains

  • @shinobi_ryder
    @shinobi_ryder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I bought ipone from this review and it works amazing. Especially when I use the precision spray, I can watch the dirty chain lube fall off so easily.

  • @quixoticfiend9274
    @quixoticfiend9274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used Motul for years on my last bike, good thing I saw this video before cleaning the chain on my new one.

  • @anderslolle2147
    @anderslolle2147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    NO... NO NO Please! Noooooo!
    Motorex, it has been you all along! Dam you for siezing my chain links 😭

  • @l-j9559
    @l-j9559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Please take S100 as well for your comparison, prety much whole Europe uses that.

    • @nkolchenko
      @nkolchenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And a blue-can Bel-Ray

    • @iamdorusyt
      @iamdorusyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea that's true, haven't heard of most of the products on the table.

    • @l-j9559
      @l-j9559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamdorusyt same, American channel, prob dont know the real good stuff XD

    • @Cameronol
      @Cameronol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@l-j9559 Canadian*

    • @nickvanemden
      @nickvanemden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was searching for this comment, surprised there are so few likes:o

  • @Remymoto
    @Remymoto ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I watched this. Two of what are the most commonly promoted products just got crossed off my list. They work well, but they also risk premature death of a chain. Other products will work well enough with at most a little elbow grease. Thank you.

  • @PakoylaSuperMeteor
    @PakoylaSuperMeteor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use Ipone, before seeing this excellent analysis, now I’m more convinced and I’m going to see which one you have of the best lubricant. Thanks so much!!!

  • @niktrinity007
    @niktrinity007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I hope the next video is which chain lube is the best.

  • @karlwalker1771
    @karlwalker1771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This Channel really asks the question and ultimately gives you an answer, thank you Ryan:)
    I cleaned my chain with WD 40 AND A TOOTHBRUSH FOR YEARS! It kept the UK weather at bay for years:)
    PS I had a VFR 400 RR and used the old engine oil to lubricate the chain for over 8 years and it worked fantastic, I would just like to let you and your viewers know this:)

    • @Speedytrip
      @Speedytrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      WD40 and a tooth brush works great to clean the chain. I then apply a thin coat of gearbox oil. Works as good as any of the expensive products out there, and it cost pennies to clean and lube :)

    • @human1513
      @human1513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Karl Walker, I have ridden behind a bike that had engine oil used as chain lube. Dam I & my bike were covered in the oil flinging of that leading bike's chain. Kept waiting for it to crash in a corner while leaned over due to oil flinging onto its rear tire also.

  • @TheCLEM66000
    @TheCLEM66000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an awesome test ! Good job guys

  • @Ernesto_Jr.
    @Ernesto_Jr. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. It's the most informative that I've seen and probably that I'll ever see. Plus it killed the myth that WD-40 damages the factory grease.

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That simple green mixture wasn't nearly green enough

  • @jimc793
    @jimc793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You always do a great job in your comparison tests using (dare I say it?) a pretty scientific methodology. Nicely done.

  • @Try2KeepUpK
    @Try2KeepUpK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I appreciate the time and effort you put into all the videos

  • @hungchihhao2008
    @hungchihhao2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great experiment! Thanks for your effort in all of this to us.

  • @Typingwithpaws
    @Typingwithpaws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *puts chemical in balloon*
    "balloon rubber. This mean all seal made from latex"
    Fix this critical error and the rest of the video was spot on!

    • @johanmeyer2893
      @johanmeyer2893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on! Latex react to Hydrocarbons, hence the balloon popped. Good luck finding Latex in chain o-, x- or z-rings. different composition all together.

  • @freshconnekt
    @freshconnekt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3rd place respectively.. I miss this guy, both informative and entertaining which is a rarity.

  • @JB-pb2oh
    @JB-pb2oh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video Ryan and company. It reminds me of the PF guy in its simplicity yet thoroughness. Thanks. PS, now its on to Adventure bikes to see what you know about them! 🙂

  • @paulwatts9910
    @paulwatts9910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ride my bike to warm up the chain and remove all the chain guards. I use hot water with dawn dish washing soap in a spray bottle and in a bucket with a chain brush. Does a great job cleaning the chain and all the areas the chain spreads the junk. As I do this in my gravel driveway I don't worry about putting chemicals into the ground, after all they wash baby ducks with this stuff. I lube the chain with gear oil that I put on the inside of the chain so it works its way out. Wipe off the excess with shop paper towel, reinstall the guards and I'm done. Really affordable products that work as well as expensive ones.