Best model, PWSAP 20Li D4 (with switch), is not available on German market any more,but maybe still on Czech or Polish markets? I'm using first model PWSAP 20Li B2 for over 3 years and it still works as on first day. When it is new, it's necessary to open gearbox and fix secondary bevel gear to shaft by Loctite, add grease a little, and it will last forever. I did it on mine and one brushed Parkside cordless angle grinder. That's my advice for any new angle grinder.
I had D4, died after few hours. I used about 1mm of cutting wheel when electronics burned. D4 is not available in CZ too. These new membrane switches are No-Go.
I have a basic question, because this information was missing in the video - what capacity were both batteries set to? Because it has been proven that it has a significant impact on the device's performance. And more importantly, did they both have the same setting?
I have never connected these batteries to an app. I dont like the tool and app combo. I just like to use them as they come. So both on default setting. They have no more than 10 cycles each.
Once you are done with cutting with this systwm you spend just as long looking at it trying to figure out how to turn it off. Don‘t fix what isn‘t broken Parkside…
I did test them, but did not include the footage in the video as it was not good. I hope I have not deleted it. I will try and find it and will let you know!
I did want to test their limits sort of. There is a huge RPM difference but in my hands they felt identical in terms of cutting and grinding power. In terms of stalling it was also pretty much the same. On sale for €50 if you have 8Ah batteries lying around they should be alright. Can‘t compare with a corded though!
Not too long. Every cut you see in the video I had about two attempts at. After that the batteries were down a bar. They were fully charged to begin with. And if having to use on of these on the last bar of battery they would not have as much power. So I‘d say about 15 cuts from this caliber and you drop a bar on the 8ah.
Haha, would be too heavy. As if they used the puch type cells the batteries would be too expensive. But an 8Ah is honestly fine as long as you have too and won‘t be grinding for the entire day. In that case just use corded.
@@BrokeLifeEUA 12ah would be fine, it isn't as if it would run a lot of cuts anyway for the weight to matter, which weight tbh wouldn't be half as much as the 8ah since the weight is not increasing quite linearly with the number of cells. Heck personally I wouldn't have a problem with a 15ah either since I never run Li batteries of any brand bellow 1 bar. As soon as 1 bar pops it's time for battery switch or taking a break/doing something else, except if I really have to finish this particular job right now. Btw some named top brand do have 10ah+ batteries too.
Great review! I'm going to buy the E6. But I'm curious: does it make a difference to use 4ah (smart) batteries instead of 8ah, in terms of power? I don't own the bigger ones and I'm unsure if I really need them
Thank you! Yes, on speed 6 you need an 8Ah battery in order to use it fully. And run time is a big plus on the 8Ah battery. I feel the 4Ah batteries lose a bar as soon as they are on the tool. In any case an angle geinder is a very power thirsty tool so at 4Ah you won‘t get too much done, but if you have multiple 4Ah they should be enough for smaller jobs.
Cześć😊 wczoraj kupiłem mimo oglądanych testów model e6 i mam baterie smart. Na filmach ludzie pokazywali że urządzenie zatrzymuje się przy malutkim nacisku i że nie nadaje się to do cięcia grubych rzeczy. Dzisiaj zrobiłem test na 4ah smart i uciąłem 10x pręt gwintowany fi 10 oraz pręt stalowy fi 14 uciąłem 2x. Po tym wskaźnik przeskoczył z 3 na 2 kreski baterii ale byłem zdziwiony bo nie zatrzymała się na tym ani razu🤔. Gdyby tylko była bez awaryjna to sprzęt pierwsza klasa jak na bakteryjne urządzenie czasami coś uciąć. Kupiłem w lokalnym Lidlu a na polskim allegro model ma same pozytywne opinie i nie wiem dlaczego na sklepie Lidla dużo osób narzeka że słabe może widocznie zależy jak się trafi. Ale no nie chwalę dnia... Wolałbym jedynie mechaniczny włącznik. U mnie na 4ah wszystkie prędkości łącznie z 5 i 6 działają poprawnie 🤔
Cześć! Gratulacje! Bardzo miło to słyszeć! Dla mnie potrzeba trochę presji, żeby się zatrzymać. Bez ciśnienia lub z małym naciskiem jest ok. Ale jeśli je popchnę, E6 zatrzymuje się przed A1. Ale nie ma różnicy w prędkości 5 i 6, jeśli używam 4Ah. Tylko jeśli użyję 8Ah. Dziękuję za podzielenie się swoimi doświadczeniami! Życzę wszystkiego najlepszego z nowym narzędziem!
It feels unsafe to use without a proper switch. Difficult to switch on and even more difficult to switch off as you are avoiding the spinning disc bit.
Has anyone managed to convert the stupid control panel to a normal switch? Or at least make it remember the setting. If I wait 5 minutes it resets to speed 1 and I have to go back to 6
I think your best bet in terms of that is just to get the D4 version. The last one with the physical button. Also I got a green one, it has an analogue speed control so it stays where you leave it and a normal trigger. I am also really not a fan of this membrane button stuff from Parkside. Really ruins the entire grinder...
@@Dimitrije_Stamenković I have not looked around in the app, however could it be possible to change the default settings via the Lidl Home app and a smart battery?
@@Dimitrije_Stamenković Not a fan of the smart battery system, because I don't like connecting tools to my phone, but at least there is an option in this case.
Great video as always! I was suprised to see thst the performance was so equal, i would have thought the föat head with its lower rpm would be a bit behind but no! I follow a few tool testing channels here on youtube, i have always been curious about the enormus amount of tools you lust have after making all these videos! 😳 Do you still use the powertools that you know after a test session is weaker/worse then the winning tool?
Thank you so much! It means s lot to read that you like the videos. I keeps me going and trying for bigger and better things! Some of the tools are not my own (Parkside tools). The ones from Aliexpress I buy and keep, because there is no other way to get them. After the tests I keep them just in case I come up with a new idea for the future. I do borrow tools from friends, especially for the comparison tests. In most cases they are in denial if the tool they have is not the better one. I would be the same if I were in their place. However none of us use the tools for any professional sort of use we are all the DIY sort of people so in most cases if it does the job it is good enough.
@@BrokeLifeEU Great that you can borrow the tools from friends! 🙏🏻 The Performanve series seems very good, i would say perfect for the DIY! And also i like how their tools look, not important, but an extra bonus! I live in Sweden and we cant shop parkside online from Lidl, so we have to wait for new inventory in the stores, sometimes its weeks in between until there is something intresting to buy! :/ Anyhow, glad for tve video! When i find the performance angle grinder i think i want to buy it (i collect tools, its silly but ones gotta have a hobby) but it will probably take forever until its in the shops! 😅 Have a nice day! Today im doing the impact conversion, parts finally arrived! 🙏🏻
Glad to hear the parts arrived finally! I hope the conversion goes well! And spot on I think that is the best way to think of Parkside tools that they are DIY. Snd as a matter of fact budget DIY. So in that bracket they are mostly good enough.
Best model, PWSAP 20Li D4 (with switch), is not available on German market any more,but maybe still on Czech or Polish markets?
I'm using first model PWSAP 20Li B2 for over 3 years and it still works as on first day.
When it is new, it's necessary to open gearbox and fix secondary bevel gear to shaft by Loctite, add grease a little, and it will last forever. I did it on mine and one brushed Parkside cordless angle grinder.
That's my advice for any new angle grinder.
PWSAP 20Li D4 = speed select feature and actual physical button = best way to do an angle grinder!
I had D4, died after few hours. I used about 1mm of cutting wheel when electronics burned. D4 is not available in CZ too. These new membrane switches are No-Go.
@thePavuk I just got a D4 for a future video I hope it lasts 😅
I have a basic question, because this information was missing in the video - what capacity were both batteries set to? Because it has been proven that it has a significant impact on the device's performance. And more importantly, did they both have the same setting?
I have never connected these batteries to an app. I dont like the tool and app combo. I just like to use them as they come. So both on default setting. They have no more than 10 cycles each.
at least i will be waiting for one with a proper switch, not membrane with a sticker
Once you are done with cutting with this systwm you spend just as long looking at it trying to figure out how to turn it off. Don‘t fix what isn‘t broken Parkside…
can anyone please tell me at what RPM the disc rotates on speed mode 1? what is the lowest RPM it can spin at?
I did test them, but did not include the footage in the video as it was not good. I hope I have not deleted it. I will try and find it and will let you know!
If you don't any stall issues, keep it in speed 5 or 4. It will not stall!! At least A1 will not.
I did want to test their limits sort of. There is a huge RPM difference but in my hands they felt identical in terms of cutting and grinding power. In terms of stalling it was also pretty much the same. On sale for €50 if you have 8Ah batteries lying around they should be alright. Can‘t compare with a corded though!
here's an idea
make a corded vs cordless parkside angle grinders comparison with the new performance corded 125mm
Thank you for the idea! I will try to make it happen!
The newer flathead, the A2, have updated electronics and is more powered from the previous A1.
Spot on, the A2 is even better than the A1. Quieter as well as more powerful.
For how long can you cut with the 8ah battery?
Not too long. Every cut you see in the video I had about two attempts at. After that the batteries were down a bar. They were fully charged to begin with. And if having to use on of these on the last bar of battery they would not have as much power. So I‘d say about 15 cuts from this caliber and you drop a bar on the 8ah.
@@BrokeLifeEU damn, they have to invent a 15ah battery for this grinder🤣
Haha, would be too heavy. As if they used the puch type cells the batteries would be too expensive. But an 8Ah is honestly fine as long as you have too and won‘t be grinding for the entire day. In that case just use corded.
@@BrokeLifeEUA 12ah would be fine, it isn't as if it would run a lot of cuts anyway for the weight to matter, which weight tbh wouldn't be half as much as the 8ah since the weight is not increasing quite linearly with the number of cells. Heck personally I wouldn't have a problem with a 15ah either since I never run Li batteries of any brand bellow 1 bar. As soon as 1 bar pops it's time for battery switch or taking a break/doing something else, except if I really have to finish this particular job right now. Btw some named top brand do have 10ah+ batteries too.
Great review! I'm going to buy the E6. But I'm curious: does it make a difference to use 4ah (smart) batteries instead of 8ah, in terms of power? I don't own the bigger ones and I'm unsure if I really need them
Thank you! Yes, on speed 6 you need an 8Ah battery in order to use it fully. And run time is a big plus on the 8Ah battery. I feel the 4Ah batteries lose a bar as soon as they are on the tool. In any case an angle geinder is a very power thirsty tool so at 4Ah you won‘t get too much done, but if you have multiple 4Ah they should be enough for smaller jobs.
Cześć😊 wczoraj kupiłem mimo oglądanych testów model e6 i mam baterie smart. Na filmach ludzie pokazywali że urządzenie zatrzymuje się przy malutkim nacisku i że nie nadaje się to do cięcia grubych rzeczy. Dzisiaj zrobiłem test na 4ah smart i uciąłem 10x pręt gwintowany fi 10 oraz pręt stalowy fi 14 uciąłem 2x. Po tym wskaźnik przeskoczył z 3 na 2 kreski baterii ale byłem zdziwiony bo nie zatrzymała się na tym ani razu🤔. Gdyby tylko była bez awaryjna to sprzęt pierwsza klasa jak na bakteryjne urządzenie czasami coś uciąć. Kupiłem w lokalnym Lidlu a na polskim allegro model ma same pozytywne opinie i nie wiem dlaczego na sklepie Lidla dużo osób narzeka że słabe może widocznie zależy jak się trafi. Ale no nie chwalę dnia... Wolałbym jedynie mechaniczny włącznik. U mnie na 4ah wszystkie prędkości łącznie z 5 i 6 działają poprawnie 🤔
Cześć! Gratulacje! Bardzo miło to słyszeć! Dla mnie potrzeba trochę presji, żeby się zatrzymać. Bez ciśnienia lub z małym naciskiem jest ok. Ale jeśli je popchnę, E6 zatrzymuje się przed A1. Ale nie ma różnicy w prędkości 5 i 6, jeśli używam 4Ah. Tylko jeśli użyję 8Ah. Dziękuję za podzielenie się swoimi doświadczeniami! Życzę wszystkiego najlepszego z nowym narzędziem!
@@BrokeLifeEU jeśli masz baterie smart ustaw w nich prąd rozładowania na 2.8 v bo jest fabrycznie 2.5 podobno to je zabija ja od razu tak ustawiłem
@@marcingyver9839Cześć, u mnie nie widzę różnicy między 5 a 6 biegiem nawet po zmianie na 2.8v.
Thanks from Greece!!
You are most welcome! I hope you enjoyed the video and the channel!
The miss of a switch is a total non sense for a portative tool like this, especially for a "pro" way !
It feels unsafe to use without a proper switch. Difficult to switch on and even more difficult to switch off as you are avoiding the spinning disc bit.
Has anyone managed to convert the stupid control panel to a normal switch?
Or at least make it remember the setting. If I wait 5 minutes it resets to speed 1 and I have to go back to 6
I think your best bet in terms of that is just to get the D4 version. The last one with the physical button. Also I got a green one, it has an analogue speed control so it stays where you leave it and a normal trigger. I am also really not a fan of this membrane button stuff from Parkside. Really ruins the entire grinder...
@@BrokeLifeEU Well I just bought the stupid thing
@@Dimitrije_Stamenković I have not looked around in the app, however could it be possible to change the default settings via the Lidl Home app and a smart battery?
@@BrokeLifeEU Yes, with a smart battery it remembers the speed setting. With normal batteries you have to choose it every time
@@Dimitrije_Stamenković Not a fan of the smart battery system, because I don't like connecting tools to my phone, but at least there is an option in this case.
I think that D4 is the most powerful model, but the button jumps with the vibrations
Might be the reason why they abandoned the button.
@@BrokeLifeEU+1
Great video as always! I was suprised to see thst the performance was so equal, i would have thought the föat head with its lower rpm would be a bit behind but no! I follow a few tool testing channels here on youtube, i have always been curious about the enormus amount of tools you lust have after making all these videos! 😳 Do you still use the powertools that you know after a test session is weaker/worse then the winning tool?
Thank you so much! It means s lot to read that you like the videos. I keeps me going and trying for bigger and better things! Some of the tools are not my own (Parkside tools). The ones from Aliexpress I buy and keep, because there is no other way to get them. After the tests I keep them just in case I come up with a new idea for the future. I do borrow tools from friends, especially for the comparison tests. In most cases they are in denial if the tool they have is not the better one. I would be the same if I were in their place. However none of us use the tools for any professional sort of use we are all the DIY sort of people so in most cases if it does the job it is good enough.
@@BrokeLifeEU Great that you can borrow the tools from friends! 🙏🏻 The Performanve series seems very good, i would say perfect for the DIY! And also i like how their tools look, not important, but an extra bonus! I live in Sweden and we cant shop parkside online from Lidl, so we have to wait for new inventory in the stores, sometimes its weeks in between until there is something intresting to buy! :/ Anyhow, glad for tve video! When i find the performance angle grinder i think i want to buy it (i collect tools, its silly but ones gotta have a hobby) but it will probably take forever until its in the shops! 😅 Have a nice day! Today im doing the impact conversion, parts finally arrived! 🙏🏻
Glad to hear the parts arrived finally! I hope the conversion goes well! And spot on I think that is the best way to think of Parkside tools that they are DIY. Snd as a matter of fact budget DIY. So in that bracket they are mostly good enough.
Detin acest flex De la treapta 5 la 6 nu se simte nici o diferență de ce ?
Din aplicație activezi treapta 6
Ai nevoie și de o baterie de 8 Ah. Cu 4Ah nu va exista viteza 6.
@@BrokeLifeEUu mnie na 4 ah wszystkie biegi działają 😊
Makita is WINNER 😀
Basically yes 😂