Why the Creality CR-10 Smart is not so smart - Honest review
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- This claims to be a ‘smart’ 3D printer, but instead it feels rushed and lacking of any proper testing. In this honest review, I outline what the Creality CR-10 Smart does well, as well as its numerous problems.
Maybe these problems will get fixed, but what about the people who have already paid for one? If you agree this is not good enough, comment below. Experiences like this are why I don't enjoy reviews, but I guess my responsibility is to take one for the team so viewers can make an informed decision.
This printer was provided free of charge by Creality for the purposes of review after agreeing to my review policy. All opinions expressed are my own.
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0:45 Specs
1:49 Unboxing and assembly
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9:10 My ABL doesn’t work!
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11:27 WIFI functionality
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17:28 Conclusion: How this printer should have been
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Very fair, and you're way more composed than I would have been. I think printers on the market now are actually worse than 2017 - promises of 32bit and silent steppers mean nothing when they can't even print properly and have features that have clearly never been tested. That clear filament guide, there's zero chance that was usability tested and only made because people said it was hard to guide filament into the bowden. To their credit, Creality is the only major 3dp company to not beg for a video to be edited or removed after a negative review, at least for me.
we had this discussion before but somehow it seems that customer are now more like beta tester. We had severl issues with the cr6se and now the cr10 smart. Same with Anycubic and the Vyper. So many people have issues with the sensor, this should have been seen while qc of the printer.
Guess thats one more reason to stick to a good 3dp company, if you want a very good out of the box experience... like Prusa does it ... yeah sure they also got or make some faults... but in general they just work
this doesn't even seem like beta hardware. Beta would mean to me that all mayor features are implemented and usable. A 3d printer without electronic or mechanical bed leveling isn't a working printer in my opinion
@@benchapman5247 you know the heatbed strain relief from the newer models? this was also a model from thingiverse which got adopted. but in that case the author stated that creality asked for his allowance.
@TheLordinio same with the anycubic vyper, my strain gauge was defect and also the belt slipped from the motor. meaning I had to dissamble the printer, which was not made for dissasembly. I needed to cut open the magnetic heat bed sticker to get to the screws.
@@samrichard4156 unfortunately prusa does not offer a machine with this build volume. This is something i would really like to look forward to.
Really Honest Review
This video convinced me to abandon Creality except for the flatbed model.
I got a bit irritated first watching this since he was so negative about the printer I was about to get. Then I realized what an idiot I was. I'll be much happier with the one i bought.
@@ress87 what did you buy
A hundred no's are less agonising than one insincere yes. Great review sir!
Glad I got a Voxelab Aquila instead. Creality sounds less than interested in developing product consumers want and can use.
Great review. Creality does not seem to be listening to its users complaints about their more recent produce offerings, and that is very concerning. Selling a printer advertised as having automatic bed leveling that doesn’t work is unconscionable, but I don’t expect Creality to take this issue seriously given that their response to a popular TH-camr is to exonerate themselves of blame and instruct the user to manually level the non-adjustable bed.
That’s outrageous. As is architecting the electronics so that a Pi cannot be hooked up.
At this point it seems as if Creality is more of a marketing firm than a 3D printer manufacturer.
Another thing - the meanwell power supply in my e3v2 is literally the only stock part aside from the extrusions and motors that hasn’t failed me in the four months since I bought the printer. Literally ever Creality-manufactured part has failed or presented as defective. Why would anyone *want* a Creality-branded PSU? It’s like Creality has zero regard for how they are perceived. It’s a very egotistical, even narcissistic organization.
@@robnixon515 it's crazy the ABL isn't working properly on this machine when it uses the same system as the CR6 SE and CR6 Max both of which work very well (at least in my experience of using them). Creality seems to have highs and lows - I'm sure this machine will be good in 6 months but a shame to see such a poor result at this time. They have been in the game long enough to do better than this.
@@robnixon515 A Raspberry pi can be hooked up. It’s a 2 minute job to do it and is straight forward 👍🏻
@@Fanaticalfentons how is it done?
By the way, your review policy is brilliant!! One of the best things I've seen for TH-cam reviews. I'm sick of youtubers showing only good features, and skipping bad ones, just to get a free product from the manufacturer.
I have a suggestion with reasons why Bed leveling failed based - I noticed at 9:35 I didn't think you had the SD card in. With the CR-6 the community firmware devs noticed that Creality save the bed leveling to the SD rather than EEPROM for some reason, without an SD card in there it may not have been saving it.
Thanks for this comment as it seems to have worked for me. I was literally pulling my hair out with the ABL problem but it seems to now be resolved after inserting an SD card. I can only assume its due to the firmware update as I never had this problem before.
@@Northumbrian08 do you still like using it?
Didn't Steve Jobs say something close to: "When Marketing takes over Engineering... it's the beginning of the End" ?
If he did it would be absolutely hilarious
He must be doing flips in his grave then.
yeah but apple doing that since forever
@@TommiHonkonen People who say this really dont pay attention to apple products. They put business ahead of both marketing and engineering, but they dont do anything thoughtlessly.
This, from the guy that sold phone hacking tone dialers designed and built by others, at different prices, depending on how the buyers were dressed?
That's pure irony, and insincere irony at that.
Michael, your reviews are essential watching for anyone who wants thorough, unbiased, and informed assessment of a product.
Many thanks again.
Outstanding review, Michael. Greatly appreciate how thorough and honest you are. Cheers!
I really like your reviews. You do a good job at breaking down the good and bad, and not getting stuck raving about the good, or ranting about the bad. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this review! Have been thinking about getting something new, but will be sticking to my heavily modded CR-10 V1 that prints like a dream.
Michael, thank you for the invaluable service to the 3D printing community. This vid is a great example of professional objectivity and honesty.
Thank you so much for a great review I had been waiting to see how this printer was going to perform. It was going to be my first printer but it seems I will now be going the route of getting a more basic proven printer and upgrading it over time.
I really wish Creality would start releasing less new printers but with actual thought behind them. If they keep making mediocore (or bad) printers, they're not gonna satisfy most of us...
I sell 3D Printers. Customers want the latest model and I have to deal with endless problems and returns. I still sell Ender 3s and nobody ever complains about them. Mind you I now recommend The Lotmaxx Sc-10 to newbies and so far so good.
@@petercallison5765 I have six FDM printers 5 Chinese and a Pro3D V-King 400 that I built myself and this one and an Ender 2 are the only ones I dont have problems with, I shall not be buying any more Chinese 3D printers as they all have something that fails or does not work
@@AndrewAHayes What type of nonsensical xenophobic nonsense is this. You buy 5 crappy cheap printers from bad companies and blame it on a nationality because you buy a significantly more expensive printer from a different company that builds enthusiast printers to dunk on it?? Ridiculous.
How about you be honest compare those printers to something like a Bambulab X1C, another chinese printer but this time not a bargain bin basement printer you use to justify your unfair reasoning, but one with effort and engineering put into it?
Hi, Last year I bough the Ender 3 S1. Basically a build and print printer. The ABL works fine. The print quality is awesome. So I bought the Ender 2 Pro's after watching #CHEP's video on them. I have yet to be disapointed in their print quality. And so easy to assemble.
@@MrGerhardGrobler Prusa would still be a better choice than a chinese printer in 90% of situations
This was a good review which is very useful for newbies like myself, if this machine had been my first one it probably would have left me scratching my head for a while,keep up the good work,it much appreciated
Good review. I originally wanted the CR-10 Smart as my first printer but they kept pushing back the date for availability and I opted for the Ender-6 instead. Now I'm glad I did.
thank you, I was wondering about this printer and this showed me all the info I need
Thank You. I just cancelled my order. Appreciate the honest review.
Do you recommend the Viper?
@@Filmman586
My question as well. I have high hopes some competitor will wake up creality so reviews like this are not necessary. There are several Vyper reviews out there, sadly lots of bug issues are being expressed.
Anything Anycubic or Creality is sure to be mediocre. But, if you are willing to tinker and mod it , it can be better than MK3s
Could we get a review of what printers you are using currently and would recommend?
Very honest review. Had mine for 5 weeks now and touch wood I’ve been very lucky with level bed and no other issues. A lot I know have had terrible problems with bed levelling and it been so hit and miss. On paper it had good potential it just seems to be missing and had very little failures. My fans don’t seem to be as loud as yours thou think. Very disappointed with the z axis adjustment is not finer. Hopefully some decent firmware updates in the future.
Another great video and a very honest review. Thank you.
It's so frustrating and down right annoying that Creality's quality control is still non existant!
I'll never forget receiving a brand new Ender 3 Pro that was wired incorrectly causing the x stepper driver to burn out... thankfuly I was familiar with the machines and immediately ordered an MKS Gen L board, but a total newbie would most likely get frustrated and never return to the hobby. That or they would spend a grand on a Prusa machine.
Great to hear your very complete and fair review.
This was a great video! It was very frustrating to see all the kinks in the design, as I was considering getting a product from creality soon. It would be nice to have a good base 3D printer that you could either keep as-is or add upon, but good to know this isn't a good option. Very thorough and well done, thank you for your services!
Thanks for this honest review Michael. Can I ask you or your followers if there is any more reviews on their creality belt printers as I've noticed that there is a lack of any new information on this at least on TH-cam
I just ordered one of these as my first printer and I wish I had seen this video first. I will hopefully receive an updated version as this video is over 1 year old. Thanks for the heads up on some of the issues. I am new to the community and am looking forward to having a great new hobby and learning about these machines.
Did you got it? Does it work fine now? I was exploring the market and this printer looks like a good candidate for me, until before I watched this video. I'm very sceptic about getting it now that I know all its flaws.
Thank you so much for this honest review. I was in the market to purchase this printer when they first advertised it but couldn't find anybody reviewing it. Creality did do a live show where you could ask questions and they performed a few prints using PLA but they struggled to get the model to stick to the bed whilst printing and it was a disaster. With this being there 'NEW' flagship printer i was eager to purchase it, but the thing that put me off was with the ABL and after watching the liver performance, trying to get the model to stick to the bed.. The fact that the nozzle is being used as the sensor, there have been times when after i've printed a model some filament has been left behind on the nozzle and i thought that this would make the bed levelling inaccurate and decided at that point to go for a Prusa i3 MK3 and i've never looked back. After watching your review this probably wouldn't have made any difference. I now know i made the right decision and i'm so glad that i didn't buy one.
Wow I am glad I found this video. Must have missed it in July. But I just received an email of Creality's black Friday deals and I immediately gravitated to the CR-10 Smart since I am looking to go bigger than my Ender 3v2. But after this video I have second thoughts. Thanks for your honest review. Still love your channel.
Thank you for this review. I was buying this printer but you helped me to save my money 👍
Thanks for a great review... I'm normally a Creality fan (I love my modded ender 3) but this ^ printer seems like a half-baked rush-job. I use Octoprint on a RPi3 with a CSI connected Camera and I love the setup.
Well made review. Thank you for this.
Great review. 100% agree with your conclusions on what they should have done.
Thanks for your review . I had been considering this printer since I have a CR6SE which I am happy with. I will look for something else in the 300 x 300 x 400 arena.
Could not agree more. QC is a vital key in retaining customer satisfaction. I recently purchased my first 3D printer (Ender 3 v2) and after the second print the part cooling and motherboard fan had already started to squeal. It is really not worth the time and effort to send the printer back so i just replaced them with "Well Known" brand. Great video.
Thank you for always been true to your review. Great job
Mark, I am trying to modify my CD-10 Smart by adding a LGX Lite and Micro swiss hot end. Since I can't find a Marlin config for the machine I have decided to try Klipper.
One of the printer.cfg for the CD-10 Smart i appears you have created. I have the machine operating but somewhat struggling with the Bed mesh. I measured the force to trigger the probe with Marlin @ 220g, now with kipper it its a over 500g. I see you have a probe Tare macro in the Printer.cfg can you provide some insite on how you have this working. This is my first printer and my first experience with Klipper, any info would be appreciated. Love your videos, Thanks
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I am very happy i watched your review as i was literally about to walk out my door and go and buy this exact printer .had a last look on the website to make sure it was still in stock and your video review popped up after the creality advert showing how easy it was to assemble but after watching your review it answered what questions i had about it and i quickly changed my mind . thankyou for your honest review . this printer should not even of been released to the public in it present state as it has to many inherit problems even for an experienced printer user . what is creality thinking . i know they are the cheap end of the market but you still expect it to work as advertised . again thankyou for saving me constant headaches and $650 AUD
I’m new to 3d printing and I have an Ender 3. I’m planning on upgrading it to a Bigtreetech motherboard and touchscreen. Would it be better to use Acura or Creality slicer, or is there a better option?
Really so deep and honestly review video bro
Wonder if it is time for another quick review of 3D printers ie the 'best' value/most reliable ones on the market now?
For the bed level, did you ever find out if it was a firmware issue and was it every resolved other than the manual shims you put in. i noticed with other reviews that they didnt have this issue.
Very good review and luckily I found it. I was about to buy this until I viewed this review.
What would be your advice for my first printer that also has all these features like Auto Bed Leveling and WiFi and a print size that is also around 300x300?
How did you go finding a printer? I'm in the position you were (looking for my 1st) and after seeing this I'm checking out the Artillery Sidewinder X2.
Thank you for this review, I might haven gone and purchased it if I hadn’t watched your review
I once said that the perfect 3d printer for starters, was an ender 3, like, the original. It works out of the box, prints nicely, somehow, and all you need to replace is the extruder to make it last a bit longer and perhaps just work, and the hotend, since the one its got really sucks, and add ABL, since it hasn't got any. Also, there's the thing about the drivers, which are soldered on the mainboard, so better get somethingthing nice from SKR or something. Also, get a new build plate and perhaps fix a chassis for the printer if you want to use some styrene based filament or something else that's hard. Again, the bowden tube setup works ok, but for flex, it's a no go, so better get a sherpa mini or perhaps an orbiter instead and while you're at it, replace those nozzles with some 3D Solex ones that actually work with large nozzles without having to replace everything. After all of this, well, you'll have something that works rather well, perhaps like a prusa i3 mk3s or maybe even better, but the time and money spent on the way, tought you a lot.
I just received (Apr 2023) a new CR-10 Smart machine and once I got it set up, I was amazed how quiet it is compared to my 2017 CR-10. I had no idea what the clear plastic piece was, and thank you for your insight. Auto bed leveling is slower now because it has 25 touchdown points instead of your 16, and still no way to compensate for the nozzle being too close and damaging the print surface. I will say the 2 test prints I have completed had excellent adhesion and the bed had to be stone cold before the print could be released and could not be pried off before that. I would be interested in hearing if the auto-level function can be disabled for subsequent prints during a session.
I was wondering about buying this Printer just because the fancy and promising features, but then I decided to buy cr10s pro v2 since this one is not sold in my country and to be honest sometimes I regret preferring v2 than this one. Thank you for your honest review because it cleared my mind totally. What did you mean by saying that it prints slowly on as cars? I could not get the point exactly.
Thanks for the honest review. I just noticed on Creality's site they are not shipping this printer from China to Australia now.......
Haha, they just got shredded in the review and now they're just not going through with it
Love your channel. I have a ender 3 pro, which thanks to you I have it printing really well, so i decided To buy CR10 smart, which even though its printing well it always prints to one side just been printing the Benchy boat on my pro fine, but will not print on the smart, well not in the middle.
I have big problems with the leveling of the printer and in particular with the eccentric of the plate you could help me as the tip of the nozzle touches the plate during the leveling emitting a tremendous squeal and then the plate is also scratched
When are we going to get more high temperature content? Your last heated chamber (Ender 5) video was over 1 year ago. You mentioned their will be a update in the video. I really want to build a high temperature 500^3 Ratrig. This isn't enough info about high temperature printing. Like, if I have the enclosure at 100 degrees, do I need to watercool the hot end?
Did you screen swap your Prusa!? Did I miss a video?
Great honest review, wish companies would QA products
Amazing video and well done! I decided after my first creality and switching to prusa I’ll never buy creality anything ever again. On my second i3 with an mmu now! Thanks for your hard work!
Hi Michael, I really appreciated this objective review and learnt quite a bit from it. I was looking for just such a review when considering purchasing a CR10 Smart that was on offer. I guess I now know why it was marked as "clearance sale". Haha. Along this thread of 'largish' (is there a class name for this build-volume size of printer?) printers, I'm wondering if you are considering doing a similar review on the relatively new Sunlu S9 Plus? Would really like to hear your findings on that. Thank you. Pete
Insert M420 S1 in your start code.
M420 S1
M28
no leveling.
M28
M420 S1
leveling!
M420 S1 can be set and saved in firmware, if you don't want it in gcode.
G28 clear the ABL, you are correct.
M420 S1 reenable it.
just bought the same printer and have the same problem.. where do i type this code in the G-code?
Hey man. Thanks. I need a machine to print helmets, what one do you think is affordable and good? Thanks
So I bought one against my better judgment and have been having issues from the moment I unpacked it. I flashed the firmware with the latest patch, and now can't select certain options on lcd screen, I also test the auto level, and it doesn't even follow the traditional patter for probing??? Any help is appreciated!
Hi! Biqu just came out with a similar printer called the B1 SE Plus. Will you be taking a look at that?
Thank you accepting to be the guinea pig so nobody else has to!
Is it possible to make a SKR 2 guide for the ender 3?
Great review!!!
Presumably adding g32 into the pre printing gcode in the slicer doesn’t cure the bed levelling issue?
Installing Marlin or Klipper, could you make the ABL actually work?
10:35 ~ this seems like an auto response to a non auto bed level system. I don't think they understood your question. There is an ender 3 v2 firmware that shows you the saved mesh. does this one have the same thing? where you can see the mesh?
I can't connect to the mainboard to see if the mesh is stored in EEPROM without opening up the machine and disassembling the Creality box. Unless the touch screen is modified to include feedback the user is in the dark.
@@TeachingTech Isn't there GCode to read out the saved settings? I thought M501 spit it out somewhere?
@@TeachingTech use M420 S1 after a G28
@@NoMoreBsPlease You can do this (M503) but on this particular printer you'd have to disassemble the electronics as the Mainboard USB port which is normally used to connect to a PC is blocked by the Creality WiFi Board.
Thanks for this review
Thanks for your accurate review.
What is meant by it's not optimized for ABS? Did you try flipping the bed and printing on the glass finish and used a enclosure?
Absolutely right. ABL not being used even after doing the probing is unacceptable. Myself I have a pimped Ender 3 with BL touch and the 2 things I do before any print is wipe the bed down with Isopropyl and the do a 16 point check with the Bed Visuliser plugin from Octoprint so I can see how far things have drifted or moved. Touch wood, I levelled the bed last year and it has remained within .1mm tolerances so far.
ABL is important if you are a newb and have no idea of why it is important, epecially on a glass bed. As to the other short comings.. well at least it does seem it will be hackable once enough are around for people to test on and installing Marlin will go to a lot to help some of the glaring errors we are seeing.
Thanks for the honest review. I love my Creality printer and too am disappointed they are fumbling with the ball.
For some larger projects we bought a CR10-Max, this one operates with a BL Touch for ABL, but it seems to have the same issues. The only way to get a decent first layer was to tune the bed manually. Even when all is set correctly in the starting GCode, the ABL just does not seem to do the job properly. In case you ever find the problem let us know, as it is quite annoying.
I had the same bed leveling issue. Noticed that there was play in the y-axis (bed). All it took was to loosen and then retighten the center screws on the extrusions locating the rollers for the bed and the problem disappeared. I am using a 0.3mm z-offset and have had no first layer adhesion issues with the bed at 60C. My only complaint is the lack of functionality for the touchscreen interface, it is missing certain functions which were available in the older CR10 models such as flowrate adjustment. Also strangely the nozzle temp is only adjustable within a small range. I suspect that these issues will be fixed in due course.
Super video that will save a lot of heartache, especially for the less experienced.
Honestly, I love creality printers. I use the ender 3 max as well as an original ender 3 that is semiretired. The biggest problem I have is with their beds; they are nice and have a good finish, but after about a dozen, I have only had one that was actually flat corner to corner. Other than that, creality prints nicely for my needs.
Thanks for your reviews - they help newbs like me to see pros and CONS ( :D more important it seems than the Pros) before we buy.
As others have said, I was looking at this for the print size - I have some specific projects in mind that would be a bit annoying on a small workspace - and the fancy extras. I have spent days looking for a printer with good reviews and a large print space that has direct extruder + ABL built in + good cooling + upgrade possibilities for the future.
The lack of a manual system for BL seems odd - many others have ABL AND manual so you can do basic level before engaging the ABL - seemed a logical thing to have. Given some of the failures of ABL I've seen, the blind faith in their system is a little odd.
The one thing Creality have going for them is the huge supporter community - it seems pretty easy to get assistance for anything bu the CR-10 Smart is maybe a bit new to have built a base of support.
Now I'm looking at the Artillery Sidewinder X2 - bit concerned searching for anything on it might get me on a terror watchlist though. :D
Looks like I won't be getting a Creality printer anytime soon. Great review! Very comprehensive!
You persevered more than I would have. After waiting all the time for the abl sequence, then having it not apply the mesh, I would have been done. Then no way to plug in to read the eeprom to see if it even saved it.
I've noticed on my Benchy I have the same small patch of "globbing" or "zits" on the hull that faces away from the front of the printer while being printed.
It's in the same exact spot as in the video, but otherwise the print is great. No stringing at all. Is there anyone that could tell me what causes this?
I've been trying to resolve it with limited success. I'm using a upgraded Ender 3, 4.2.7 board, bltouch, glass bed. It also did this with the original board and bed as well.
Thank you!
Thank you for this review. I'm looking to get my first 3D printer in the very near future and the CR-10 "Smart" was going to be my choice. But after I watched this and a couple of other reviews, it's gonna be a no for me.
With that said, what printer in this size range do you recommend for a beginner within the $500.00 or less price range?
I mainly want to print R/C and Control Line model airplanes so print accuracy is a must as well.
that is just it ... im searching for the same and this thing was the only one that can make big prints and doesn't cost a fucking arm and a leg ... and now i have no idea what to do because im not buying this crap
@@AAAAAAndreyAndreev did you find a printer?
Btw regarding printing big things... you have to split up the model in pieces, then glue the pieces together. You can print a life size car on any printer actually
@@to-mi1949 and what about big boxes for example? That need certain consistency of the material
Since I got one of the first Ender 3, 2nd hand (no Pro no V2, plain old ender3) I had so many problems with it. I needed to upgrade the bed to an glas one, put an SKR e3 DIP with 2209 in it and tried to print. I got the same results as you did with the CR-10 Smart... Its kinda sad, that they still dont get stuff fixed after 3 years, still the same issues.
Thanks for the review.
PS.: I guess they are putting the Creality Cloud stuff in it, because no one wants it and otherwise it would be a waste of money for them.
do you know how annoyed i would get if my printer shut off everytime it took me over 30 minutes to decide what i was printing next
I couldn't even upgrade the firmware on my 4.2.2 board on my Ender 5. Did everything I was supposed to do and it just refused to install new firmware on reboot of printer. Tried to contact Creality and they made the process to resolve anything so difficult. Switched board out to the SKR E3 V2 and no issues now.
hi ... I'm one of the people who bought this machine on early stage and have the same issues specifically the bed inconsistent... I wish if it possible to have an other videos of how to make my printer better or a work out for these defects.
Best regards with many thanks and gratitudes.
I had a several ways, don't know if this would help:
1. Adjust the z-offset. If the slice height stays at 0.2 mm, the Z axis can be lifted and compensated by 0.2 mm before printing. For details, see Page 9 of the manual.
2. The screw under the glass bed is loss to cause the bed to be uneven.
You can disassemble the glass bed and re-screw the 16 screws and see if this would work.
3.Waiting for Creality to update the firmware
Bonjour , est ce que le ventilateur du hotend tourne toujours a fond sur la smart ?
What an honest and awesome review. Shame on Creality for over promising and way un-delivering.
I really enjoy 3D printing and have an Ender 3 V2, it is always going out of level for absolutely no reason, I am surprised at what you seem to have to do to every machine to make them acceptable. It seems like most companies send any old crap out into the market, hence the fact that a positive is the large community...it shouldn't be needed if the product was not crap in the first place.
I am interested to learn based on your experience what machine you would recommend. I was going to by this due to build volume and auto bed levelling...but it sees like just more crap being shoved out into the marketplace. What would you recommend?
Great review and I agree with you!
So, which Creality CR series or Ender would you recommend? I do have some experience with 3D printing but have not owned a printer . What’s ththe difference between ender series and Cr series? Thank you
CR-series is a series of bigger printers, and enders are smaller/beginner. I would recommend ender 3 pro, and upgrade it as you go
Good review! I also own the CR-10 Smart. Luckily the bed was straight/level/flat. I had issues with the extruder. After upgrade to the metal version meant for the CR-10 it has worked very well. To bad Creality QA sucks. They are loosing a lot of money on bad reviews. After opening the printer, it is possible to expose a usb-cable for connection to Octoprint. To bad they did not do this default.
After a great deal of learning on my 240 dollar Anet A8 Plus I'd say, bedleveling is a must for the next one (though i finally learned how to manually dial mine in which rocks) and I can honestly say without a live USB port I'd not buy it. I don't use Octo yet, but will soon. I use Pronterface and have since the first week. Having control over my printer from my desk is paramount. Not an option and? After your review I struggle to see ANYTHING about this printer that would make me pony up 500 beans for it. As always, you and Angus are my go to guys, don't leave out Stefan at CNC Kitchen either. Thanks so much for a straight forward look at the product.
So was ABL properly configured in the Firmware ?
Thanks for the honest review indeed !
Because I connect via terminal it's impossible for me to know.
@@TeachingTech Thanks for the reply.
Did you ask them the question, or did they provide you with the source code?
The printer seems to be a CR-6 Max with a slightly smaller build area. I am surprised it was so bad, my CR-6 Max has worked great out of the box. The CR-6 Max is very well built compared to my Ender 3V2, I wonder why they dropped the ball on the CR-10 Smart. I haven't tried ABS because I don't have an enclosure yet. In all fairness the ABS test should have been done in an enclosure or at least used a draft shield. Great unbiased review thanks, I would get another CR-6 Max I am old school and like using SD card and the extra build area is nice.
Outstanding! I just watched a review of the same printer by someone else and it was nowhere near as comprehensive and in the end, "they liked it."
Your coverage of the Creality Cloud needs more attention as Creality needs to just drop the product and stop "acquiring" prints as if they were part of their library. It's shady. I never thought that a company as large as Creality would resort to content scraping to build their own site.
Thanks for doing an thorough and forthright review.
I just got this smart a day before and found that the auto bed leveling is not really working as the first layer always not stick on the bed and only when used Raft and then can stick on the bed to print but has edge tilted problem; Also the extruder feeder has bug as well that the filament has been stuck into there when I manual pull it out so I have to ask printer to withdraw itself. I tried to adjusted X axis to manually level the bed but nothing to do with that so anyone can help with that?
Michael,
I believe you are in the right track.
Creality and other cheap 3D printing manufacturers are confusing the term DIY with buy trash and fix it yourself.
Yes we like to tinker with machines and working with settings but we should get quality product from the start, and not being used to find out what they need to fix.
i don't think after this honest review Creality no more will send you printers... LOL, but thumbs up for your honesty , i love your content!
Is the creality cr-10 smart a good choice for printing helmets?
My opinion is that you definitely received a lemon. Currently, I have 2 CR-10 Smart 3d printers and, aside from adhesion issues (couldn't get prints to stick without spraying LOTS of spray-on adhesive), I've not had any major issues, with them, and only very few minor issues. I will admit that I did have to return 2 of these printers, in the past, as there were component issues, meaning there were glitches in the touch screen that made one printer totally unusable and the other printer had a massive print failure that completely coated the bottom of the hot end assembly with filament. This last issue was entirely my fault for starting the print and then leaving, only to come back to what I thought was just a spaghetti mess, but turned out to be much worse. I did give it a go at trying to clean it up and spent ~2 hours working on it only to finally say screw it and returned the printer to Micro Center where I had purchased it. The only caveat is that MC required the printer to be disassembled enough to fit back in the original box (sans packing foam) so that it could be completely closed. These two printers, that I now have, are beasts and I've put probably 1500-1600 hours of printing through each with very minor and few issues. I have had them both for a little over a year, now, and would definitely recommend others to get one, especially if they're new to the game as these are very straight forward and user friendly, IMO. The auto-leveling feature works just fine on both of them. Usually, if I have a print that is messing up, all I have to do is auto-level the printer and the issue is resolved. Oh yeah...I DO agree that the wifi IS total junk. I've never been able to connect wirelessly to ANY of these, but that's not an issue for me as they are both mere feet away...and I need the exercise. ;) One more thing: as for the camera? I use a Wyze camera that plugs in to the USB A port strictly for power and this works flawlessly. To conclude, I would say get one, especially if you're just starting out. If it turns out to be a lemon (and you can pretty much find this out right away), just disassemble it, throw it back into the box it came in and exchange it for another. If you get one that works like both of mine do, you'll be very happy with it!
I was trying to figure out why after I manually bed level it’s still not level once I start my print. The attached bed leveler is in accurate and messes up my leveling. I’m pretty bummed I saw this video after having this machine for awhile. Also it is soo slow
Good & honest review. I own a E3v2 and am completely happy with it, but I wouldn't own this printer, even for free. Thanks for the "heads-up".
I was tempted by field size and automated bed leveling. Now I have to somehow install a manual bed leveling with a classic level sensor. Does anyone have idea of low-cost (without replacing motherboard) solution?
Have you tried to calibrate the strain gauges?
Are there any updates from creality on the ABL not working? We shouldn't have to resort to mechanical intervention
the best review on all youtube! fantastic, thank you. i bought this printer on bangood yestarday XD. i already have ender 3 V2.... i hope that all will be ok
Thanks to a comment on this vid I now think I have resolved the bed levelling problem by inserting an SD card into the printer. For whatever reason the printer would print too close to the bed, almost digging into the glass after ABL. I was literally pulling my hair out trying to resolve it and went through all the procedures I could find online to no avail. However after inserting an SD card in, it has started to print normally again after ABL. Why the problem started in the first place is beyond me as it printed great since purchase a few weeks ago. Maybe it was the firmware update, I don't know. But I thought I would post this to help anyone else with the same problem.