The Creality CR-10 SE : Everything you need on a bed slinger?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2023
- The CR-10 SE isn't an Ender 3. But you might be forgiven for thinking it is! Let's take a look at it.
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Note: The Creality CR-10 SE Was provided for the purposes of the tests in this review. No other material or financial exchanges in association with this review were agreed, or other conditions of review.
Models:
Stoli by Bryan Vines
Sugar cube vase and round scoops by Triple G Workshop
Rocket engine by Prusa Research.
Model links : www.printables.com/@lostintec...
Calling another ender 3 a cr 10 and then making the ender 3v3KE which is basically this just looks different…… 😂
Short and sweet and happy to talk about the printer and company infrastructure. You're amazing
There are only a few difference between this and the KE:
- This one has a linear rail on the Y axis (replacing linear rods which are definitely enough)
- Dual Z motors on the 10 SE
- This one comes with a hardened steel nozzle and textured PEI sheet
- This one has a light bar
- Different toolhead shell even though internals (all the way to the cooling) seem to match exactly
- Much bigger frame but only 20cm taller when it comes to build volume
- 110° heated bed instead of 100°...
- KE doesn't have drawers
That's it. These are all the differences between a 400$ and a 270$ machine released by the same company in a ~2 month time frame.
This doesn't seem to be worth the 130$ price difference...
yeah - an odd one for sure. There seems to be a lot more interest in the KE for obvious reasons, even though the CR10 looks nicer, I guess money > aesthetics on this one
@@LostInTech3D seeing as how a P1P is $139 more right now...
That is the price difference when you buy from Creality, but when you compare the best possible prices, the difference is way less. Even now you bet better discounts from Creality on the Cr10SE over the KE.
You're forgetting the motors as much stronger, try printing as fast on a KE at the same speed and acceleration as the CR-10 SE. It will miss steps like crazy, its not even a comparison. Also, the frame is way more rigid because of the cast aluminum frame at the base. The KE is just injection molded base with some brackets, not nearly the same rigidity, even those linear rods on the Y axis are flimsy and flex a lot. For the price, if you really value a quality machine the CR-10 SE outshines the KE. The CR-10 SE is the machine to get from a business/reliability standpoint. If you want to occasionally print models for fun, the KE will be enough. If you're running a print farm operation, the CR-10 SE is it.
Wanted to buy KE, but went for CR-10SE instead because in my country it costs 380€ while KE is supposed to arrive somewhere at the end of the february, and I expect it to cost 300-330€. K1 is 580€ here, p1p costs similarly. Very satisfied with it so far.
Seen v3 se and cr-10 se side by side, the difference in build quality is immense. V3 KE uses the same chasis as se, only with a few major upgrades like different toolhead, rail on x axis, klipper screen, runout sensor and pei sheet. Basically, they got CR-10 se by upgrading hotend, adding rails to the x and y axis, adding nebula pad with klipper, stronger stepper motors on all axis, load cell and vibration sensor to s1 pro, and then they kept the important stuff but simplified everything else for the V3KE.
Overall, if I would be buying another printer in a few months it might be KE, but I don't think that 50-80€ price difference got to waste as build quality is so much better on CR-10 SE
CR-10 SE is a good printer. I bought one mainly because the Bambu A1's were out of stock for an indefinite period at the time. Where CR-10 SE has fallen down a bit is in Creality and third-party support. I had a major fail SE users on FB called the blob of death. Getting parts wasn't the easiest. The heat sink is just not available save Creality sending me a new one from overseas. They are standing by their product per the warranty, but it's like they released the SE and the next day kind of forgot they released the SE.
I don't know why they called it CR. This is a S1 variation, I mean, improvement. 🤩
The reason they didn’t put the sprite extruder on the K1 is weight-related. On a CoreXY that’s just way too heavy, especially since they’re already using steel rods instead of Bambu’s carbon rods, they’d be way behind in speed/quality if they added a huge sprite extruder to the moving mass. On a bedslinger, the bed is still the limiting factor for accelerations, so you can put heavy extruders on the x-axis with no speed penalty.
Bought one, rooted and really like it after it’s rooted and I can use Fluid or Mainsail on my pc to access it through the Orca slicer.
Finally someone else that doesn't think creality print is bad!
Good review as always, this has all the important upgrades except the strain gauge for auto z? Creality has so many models now with different features it's hard to keep up! 😤
Yes, exactly
what is that program you are using to pedigree all those creality printers?
Can you share the settings you used to print these parts?
You talked about your Cura profile, do you happen to have it available somewhere?
Last night my supplied USB had to be formatted and I lost the 3 factory prints on it. The scrapper, filament guide and the benchy tug. Where can I get the Stl for them again??
Weird, I really thought the distinguishing factor for the CR10 was the larger build volume, came into this expecting a Neptune 4 plus competitor. Linear rails and high speed, while very reliable and compelling, also make for a loud printer. Seems like a decent machine that might struggle to find a market foothold
can you share the creality print slicer settings you used somehow? i am new and mine is not printing very fast at all my benchy took almost 2 hours
Word of the day: Performative.
It's a performative word 🤣
Good video, thank you. Just ordered one. The music though, not so much.
The naming is bizarre and the pricing is a bit high for sure, but it does seem like a solid overall printer. I can't see buying this instead of an Ender 3 V3 variant or just stepping up to a K1 though. Just kind of strange how it fits into their lineup.
Yeah - I get that.
@@LostInTech3D Great review though. Paints a more clear picture than a lot I have seen. If it was on a deep enough sale it would clearly be a huge step up from say any Ender 3.
Im loving my Ender 3 V3 KE and my K1 Max with my P1S and A1 thats on the way
I'm reviewing a KE soon 👍
Excited for a fullcontrol video 😃
me too!
Ive been following/tinkering with it for a while, just not had the time to get my head into doing anything particularly clever with it yet. hopefully the interface will become more intuitive at some point in neat future.
It needs a name now it has some eyes… KEnny?
Very strange move making a smol boy CR-10, isn’t that want an Ender 3 is??
Great video as always mate 👍🇦🇺😊
kenny, haha why not
I bought the S1 Plus last year and really enjoyed it but my only problem with it was having to bed level which was annoying, I previously upgraded my Ender 3 pro to have CR touch, a silent motherboard and a touch screen display. Therefore I upgraded to the S1 Plus for the CR-10s print volume and I really wanted a light bar too for the £500 launch price. Should I switch to this printer as I build cosplay models and have the skills and experience to make the CR-10, Ender 3 pro and S1 Plus print in higher quality than most FDM printers that I’ve seen.
Sure
Creality is like the Intel of 3d printing. They're being dethroned and won't notice until it's too late.
Are you posting from 2021? Should we spoil the rest of covid for you? It gets better, I promise
Hey, I was wondering which software did you use to make the diagram at 0:30?
Simplemind
Do you not have framerate issues when using CrealityPrint?
When I had a K1, just moving my mouse around over the slicer was running around 5-10fps, making it frustrating to use.
I ended up finding a brand new P1P for $400 after I returned the K1 (bed variance of 2mm+ and ridiculous vibrations), which is a heap easier to use, but definitely not the god-machine everybody claims they are.
no, not at all. Sounds like something your graphics drivers don't like, but no idea.
Man, you have really high expectations of your prints. If those prints are adequate, my prints look like trash 😂.
I think this printer is only missing one thing. I really want to printer out of the box with independence z drivers. That is one feature none of my printers have, any main boards you guys recommend? I have a completely optioned out in my opinion. Ender 3 Max running Klipper, but I'm still running the 4.2.2 board
If you are already running klipper, you could use an old board with a dead driver, a second cheap board, or one of those fancy canbus tool head boards. Each will give you additional stepper drivers
I never even thought about that dude. That is such a good idea. Thank you very much. Not only does this channel rock with epic videos, your subscribers are epic as well. Thank you again and have a great holiday dude.
Where can i get the chart?
When are they going to start using parallel belt paths for the X axis?
One can print belt shim for E3 and see if it fits. Creality? When all they have is core-XY 😅
Is it loud??
creality's lineup keeps expanding. still waiting on the ender 3 v3 to drop
Haha, me too!
Can you share your profile for the slicers?
Got one of those myself and wanna migrate from using the Creality print
Actually all I did was use I think the S1 pro, then crank the speeds up a bit.
To everyone looking to buy this thing… I bought it as my third printer thinking it would be great… 1 month in the hot end blocked up and I had to use the prodding tool to unblock it… the prodding tool broke and since for the past 5 months I have been unable to source a replacement hot end and Creality support is terrible
I'm still puzzled as to why this Elegoo printer says Creality on it ;) Definitely way prettier than Enders and Co usually are.
If the strain gauge is connected to the nozzle, why the cr touch?
You'd have to ask creality that, but I suspect it's simply faster to probe with something you don't have to clean first.
@@LostInTech3D 100% those strain gauge nozzles just ooze too much for Z Offset.
Ender 3 v3 ke review video
Microcenter has the k1 for 349$ rn… kinda a steal.
Some fingers on the left and right housing
I wanna know what Creality has been smoking lately.
The should have named it ender end game.
Not having separate driver's for the z motors is a huge miss imo.
eh, I disagree. Printers with dual drivers have a lot more calibration hassle.
CR10 SE is not a very memorable name, to put it mildly :)
In my country the se cost about 360 and the ke costs 285.....
Ke would be the better choice then
In my country (Argentina) it cost 900...
Creality changes a part and they make a whole new SKU. I've quit really paying attention to their releases as they continue to try to flood the market. I suggest to anyone buying Creality these days...choose the one that requires the least amount of upgrades. Those upgrade must haves being direct drive, solid mounts, probes, and rails. I think these machines are a waste for anyone wanting to fully control their machine b/c the locked down klipper boards are an added cost.
WHERE IS THE NEPTUNE 4 REVIEW?
Lol I know 😒
Is there not a thing where heavy toolheads recks print quality
That's what input shaping is supposed to fix
I hate the sprite extruder, it has very bad extrusion quality
The problem is at your end, not the extruder.
i think it's a bit of a jerk move how creality made an ender 3s1 pro for £450 and then decided to make the same machine and sell it for £200. sorta feel ripped off ngl
the SE? It's not really the same machine, it's missing a few features like the light, and...well....about a kg of something.
@@LostInTech3D the cr-10se has a light right?
20 different new printers per year and zero support to old printers. 👍
Creality drives me nuts with their model designations! Makes no sense to have such a hodgepodge
Nah even for bed slingers. Bambu is the way to go
It needs better cooling
you haven't used one, have you?
@@LostInTech3D no, I am watching your prints and seeing the outcome
The new FLSUNs use a berdair style cooling system with the fan remote from the hot end. Most of the other manufactures are opting for super high speed fans. The reviewers need to focus on this a bit more.