Ducati Monster 2021 review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- BikeSocial's Michael Mann spent a week with the 2021 #Ducati #Monster but with a lack of numbers in its name or a trellis frame, does the new generation of the grunty naked live up to its name?
📖 CONTENTS
▶️ 00:00 Model history
▶️ 01:14 Intro montage
▶️ 01:54 In detail
▶️ 07:10 Engine start
▶️ 07:43 Riding montage
▶️ 08:00 Post-riding thoughts
▶️ 12:57 BikeSocial Membership advert
▶️ 13:17 Out takes
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The good thing is that Ducati is one of the few brands that designs and manifactures in italy as opposed to others who's entire manufacturing and assembly process is entirely overseas...
Great review, as usual!
Thanks Takis, appreciate you taking the time to say so!
Cheers, Michael
Cool Mike, great review. Very tempting. I mostly ride around the city. How does it handle city speeds and traffic etc. Too much character? How was it on the twisties. Over summer I am out on some very amazing mountain and coastal roads in the Coromandel in New Zealand. Tight and can be uneven. Thanks
Cheers Paul, because it’s got the power but it’s so lightweight the Monster is ideal for sprinting around the city and diving in and out of traffic as well as getting a march on in the twisty bits. I’d be interested in hearing how you get on.
nice honest review. I have a red one on pre order in Australia and can't wait.... btw, what model AGV helmet are you wearing?
Can I ask are you happy with it after 1 year, if so what is the fueling like on it? Is it smooth around town on a steady throttle?Thanks in advance.
good review. top man.
😍 🔥 beautiful machine
Great review
Your style of talking is better than that if at least the last five prime ministers. But I hope you retain your current job, as in my opinion you give by far the best reviews. And having recently lost a Monster 796, which I loved, to theft, I cannot wait to upgrade to this bike, the changes to which agree with me. Aa for high pegs, I had the higher comfort seat on my 796, and it make the comfort (seat-to-peg distance) perfect. Not saying it will do the same on this new model, but it will surely help.
Are you wearing the Dainese airbag? Is there a review coming on that? I thought you had to wear it on the inside or does it not matter? Only asking as I looked at it but it doesn't have neck support but it looks fairly tidy in this video.
sorry to be nosey , had mine for two years , love it , wear mine on the outside , you can wear it in or out its up to you . just remember this when it comes to sizing . it is quite heavy but dont really notice this when i have it on.i wear mine out side so i can see the lights as the confirmation vibrations it gives can be the same for green and amber .. it unarm's when you get off , or when the engine stops. if i was purchasing one now i would get the smart jacket LS one , not the vest . it is pricey at 769 but all in one. my only advice would be go some where you can try it on , take the jacket your be wearing it with , and try under and over but remember to up size if your wearing it over , for me this was also the more comfy way to wear it. hope this helps . sean
In my humble opinion, the Monster appears a bit incomplete without an engine spoiler.
Agreed . Been thinking same
It’s an accessory option
very true
I absolutely love this bike. Tremi system will be here in a few days. Belly pan ships on the 9th. Coming off a 97 SRAD750 and 05 K1. The power delivery is wonderful. The quickshifter felt un-natural at first, especially the down shift. The up shifts blow me away how crisp and fast it is. I’ve never felt so confident and comfortable in the corners, the electronic suite is amazing. What trellis fame ? Times change, get over it. The 821 and the 1200 barely have a trellis frame anyway and have been getting smaller over the years. The 890r is as equally ugly in my eyes. But isn’t that what the “Monster” is all about 😂
Did you buy one in the end, Matt?
I'm looking for feedback on heating in city stop-and-go conditions, did it ever get too hot for comfort for you?
@@ThePowerMoves it does get hot on lights, my test bike was getting up to 210 fahrenheits on dash, it was about 77 outside. You do feel the heat coming out from the engine.
Stop lying. New monster is a joke.
Great, sensibly delivered review.
How do you compare it to 890 Duke R and the new MT09? Take cost and reliability out of the equation. Just riding performance
Nice review & a very nice presenting style Michael but I think I'll be keeping my 70 reg Monster 1200s for a while !
Had a m821. I like it, probably better in person.
Great review! I've watched many, and most (if not all) bang on with the usual rhetoric... from the Ducati 'script'. Yours was not so much of that. Perhaps it was because I've just put my money on 1!? Either way, good job boys. Thanks.
Awesome bike, test ride one and you will agree with me.
Interesting that the bmw f900r never gets mentioned as competitor for theses bikes (monster, 890duke, street triple) ?
I thought the exact same thing
@@senor-fa-von-dia because it's not a competitor...bmw is slower & heavier.
I am guessing they are comparing it to the best in class, the BMW is far from it.
Great review, but it looks like the worst new mid sized bike I've seen since the KTM Duke 790. Looks similar to the Benelli 500 Leoncino, except they look better than this Monster does..
When you have to convince the audience it's sporty, by saying "It's sportier than it looks" you know it's a hard sell..
Clearly, it'll be great to ride, and has some quality components, but in terms of looks, it's like an electric commuter bike
As the owner of a Monster 797... I'm ready for the 950. Lots of people complaining about the styling, etc.. all people who wouldn't have purchased one anyway.
Head light...👍
what about the heating issue
Tank looks ‘high’ and all over it reminds me more of a KTM 890 Duke more than the old monster - looks like it’s designed to be more a sporty street bike than a street cruiser hmm 🤔 looks ok though !
What the heck does he whisper at 3:53 when he's talking about whether people are bothered by the lack of a trellis frame?
What the heck. The old headers wrapping up around the sides of the bike were so tough looking. This bike is so limp looking
Such a shame. Just a huge miss aesthetically. I was shocked when I heard that this also replaces the Monster 1200s. Funny that a Suzuki SV650 looks more like a Monster than this new Monster which looks more like a Yamaha lol.
That’s funny I said the same thing in another video about the new monster.
Yamaha looks way better
@@ddmytrenko hell no lmao
I'll have to see it in person I guess. From the footage it looks like a big step backwards aesthetically.
I own one (and have owned a previous Monster) and I can tell you this bike is gorgeous in person.
I saw it in person and it was so bland I almost walked into it.
@Ben Daulton yeah only 10k plus for the MV 😂
They almost managed to make it look like an SV650...
Closer to a Gladius 😬
@@sravans4839 both are correct :) it was first the sv650, then the sfv650 gladius, and now the sv650, with the first and last models having a faired and naked varient under the same name.
@@sravans4839 Yeah, I forgot about that oddity...
I was about to type the same thing - I had the post Gladius SV650, which was a great bike. Looks quite similar to this new Monster on the lower half. The SV has what appears to be a more upright seating position with lower pegs. Wish I kept the SV as a second bike instead of trading it.
@@brianglendenning1632 You can get another SV then! :)
I test road one from Worcester Ducati and found it spot on can't fault it great ride
what is the top speed ?
which should we choose between this and the ktm 890 duke r, triumph street triple rs or kawasaki z900?
These bikes have much better hardware. Monster used to have killer looks, now it doesn't even have that, so makes no sense to buy
Z900👍👍
@@weed46 you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@c.g.c2067 It's pretty clear if you understand English.
The new Monster looks like an MT07, and doesn't have better hardware than it's competitors despite the increased price.
There aren't many selling points on this bike over a KTM 890 or a MT09SP that have more power, and better suspension, same 6 axis IMU for less money
Cant see the engine just a load of plastic. Looks like it’s designed by a car manufacturer.
in short boring.Dare I saw Kawasaki Z900RS is stunning comparison to this bike and cost less
@@rubensahak9178 I’m a big fan of the Kawasaki. Considered getting one, but it was a lot taller and heavier than I wanted, so bought a Fantic 450. Kind of similar retro vibe and good looking IMO. I reckon most of these big bikes are doomed. Most of my mates have either quit, or are buying far smaller, lighter, less powerful and cheaper bikes. Hardly any younger riders coming up. The demographic is changing. Ducati were right to make their little scrambler.
Just bought one. It was between this and the Supersport 950 S. It was as you said, didn't LOOK special to me, until I rode a demo and it was frankly perfect for what I wanted. Lightweight, responsive, felt "alive", and perfect as a commuter with occasional weekend track/corner carving duty. Bought it with the Termignoni race exhaust too, because it sounded kinda weak thanks to Euro5.
Is this the new Ducati sv650?
Yep, but it will cost you thousands more than a SV.
From the side it looks like my old z750
what Ducati should have done was released this bike under a different name and a lower class maybe 300 or 650cc and called it something else.. like Ducati Lupo? or Ducati Demon?
The new xsr900 has got it whipped.
they really fudged up the styling ...
There must be an S or and R version coming with more power, higher spec component and a SSS, must be.
There is already, it's called the streetfighter. And this is not a Monster, this is a streetfighter 950
The S, I’d guess will only be an adjustable suspension for $2k more.
@@adamniswonger8015 wait, isn't it overpriced already?
@@weed46 I did not know the v2 sfighter came out, that woulda be the sweet sport for me!
@@TerribleTimes The new Monster is the V2 streetfighter. Ducati Monster is dead.
Well that was a less enthusiastic review. Most other sites are raving about the new Monster, but maybe it’s not quite as amazing as I’ve heard? It’s good to get some balance, but I wonder why it was so much less exciting for Michael?
I've seen plenty of meh reviews.
Would rather have the hyper RVE
They do look very nice “in the flesh”. Went in to look at the Street Fighter and could not take my eyes off the RVE
👍🏻
forget this one wait for the streetfighter v2
So, Monster, or Duke 890?
Duke 890R all day
Definitely the 890 R. I have one and it’s a brilliant bike. The Monster just look awful now. Almost like an SV650. What were they thinking?!1
@Ben Daulton not sure that makes sense
It is an interesting approach to spec. Nice dash, and nice electronics package, and good brakes. But no adjustable suspension is a real weakness. I don't mind the looks but it does not look as good as the current crop of motorbikes that are copies of the original monster. It might appeal to the hard core ducati fan, but it seems like there are better options in this class at this price.
Don't think so, consider that you get a top end stiff light frame derived from the Panigale, braking system of the Panigale V2, 165 kg dry weight, powerfull V twin engine with plenty of torque and fully complete customizable electronics with ABS cornering...all at a very very competitive price tag.
@@c.g.c2067 Suspension setup is arguably the #1 thing you can do to your bike to improve both comfort and performance. And you can't do it on this bike. It's a hard no from me.
It’s a matter of priorities you miss adjustable suspensions but you get cornering Abs which is a top safety feature for many new and experienced riders.
@@c.g.c2067 Even the new 2022 RC390 has adjustable suspension, in addition to a full IMU. And it's $5500.
@@onlyfoolriding8223 But it's a 390cc with 40bhp.... and it's manufactured in India
Great review & it is nice bike but the lack of any adjustable suspension puts me off tbh, especially for that price & something considered premium. I feel they've spent the majority of the money on unnecessary bling & forgotten one of the important bits in the suspension.
What I can suggest is to try it first and you will be really surprised how well ducati design this suspension;)
Do a test ride. I didn't think it needed any adjustable suspension (unless you're a track rat).
They spent the money on the electronics package, because it's impressive how it can go from docile commuter to Monster with a few pushes of a button.
Yuk! Go 890 Duke R. Absolutely fantastic bike and looks so much better than this Monstrosity
(Excuse the pun).
It seems like the design of the bike itself was rushed. All the exposed wires and open spaces isn't what you expect or want from a premium bike company with a premium price.
Honestly I hate the looks of dukes just a fugly muscle bike
Was he forced to ride this bike, didn’t seem like he wanted to ride it until 8mins in lol.
I prefer the old exchaust system. The rest of the bike i like.
I love the detail Ducati puts into their mirrors.
shame they didn't put same effort in the rest of the bike lol.
They make such a big deal about the weight savings but my M796 is just as light! Oh yeah, and it looks absolutely beautiful unlike this one. I was optimistic about this bike until I saw it in person and was not impressed.
I was told this bike can only run 150km in one tank of gas, is it true???
The fuel tank is tiny, there’s enough space to hold an alleged 14-litres but its dimensions fit with the rest of the bike, keeping the bike light enough for some sporty handling while still returning almost 50mpg. That would result in a theoretical tank range to empty of 150-miles. Not massive but the compromise of keeping the weight down is worth it.
this is no ducati monster ....its wolksvagen monster
i just can't bring myself to like it. Even after seeing it in person. It doesn't look like a monster, its way too quiet (thanks Euro5), and its just kind of bland all around. I can't see why i'd want this over a street triple rs, or even a monster 821+ or 1200, both with better, adjustable, suspensions.
Nice Yamaha MT.
The all new ducati SV650
looks like a brutale X mt07
Nah, not for me. Don't like the lack of mud guards nor much else. Nice light weight but prefer the Scrambler.
Amazing bike, I own one
Cup of Earl Grey in hand, a spare 10 minutes and a Ducati review by the Classy Michael Mann; lovely! At first sight, agree the new Monster looks awkward at best, rather like a boomerang on wheels. Deffo’ needs a bottom skirt to hide her embarrassment. But the bike’s a good ‘un. The odd bit of exposed wire can not detract from what is a quality steed. Sporting but all round capable. Audi ownership of Ducati is no bad thing but is likely to slightly lessen the character of this superb Italian marque.
Dare I say it looks a bit boring.
Where is the monster on this Ducati?!
Looks like someone from mv Agusta got fired and joined ducati
I like the comments on here from armchair bikers best. They haven't ridden it and most haven't seen it but they know so much about how it rides, how it doesn't match up to the old trellis framed Monsters. Maybe they are all scaffolders? Maybe they should book a test ride first, then comment, or do they just look at posters on their bedroom walls.
I need to get the European turning indicators ASAP. The U.S. versions are making my life difficult. :o)
First thought ... what a dangerous place to present from on that corner !! ....
I lived down a country lane like that all my childhood and I can tell you the way
some people barrel round tight corners like that would see you and the Ducati wiped out !
It feels so wrong!! Even Ducati logo is in the wrong place, it should be on the front mudguard.
Its lost all the character it ever had, it could be Japanese. You can design nice bikes and still make them affordable, Ducati have missed a trick with this.
As an owner of one and an owner of an older model Monster (S4R) - open clutch and everything - I can tell you the new Monster is different but it is EPIC to ride. It's so light and with the Termi race exhaust, it growls (and I just removed the DB killers yesterday and it sounds FIERCE). Super nimble in corners. I love the bike so far. I don't miss the trellis frame (I have one on my Diavel 1260s.). Give this bike a chance, you'll love it.
@@DucatiDiaries 100% correct btw... love your review on the Ducati DB killer exhaust... everyone go check it out!!
What tricks that then cause power to weight ratio is what this bike is about, aesthetics aint everything ya know.
@@robertrossi9374 Thanks brother.
@@DucatiDiaries I hear yah... Japanese bikes ride Mega too... still not gonna ride them...
I own one, I can confirm that it is indeed not a monster anymore. Let's forget about the trellis frame because it is what it is. This monster feels very cheaply made, the fit and finish is garbage, its got a plastic shell around the tank. You sit noticeably higher which is not the way monsters have been. It sounds like garbage with the OEM exhaust which is partially due to exhaust laws in the US and the UK but even with those laws having been around for a while the 821 still sounded good with factory exhaust.
The only thing that this thing has in common with previous monsters is the badging and the fact that it feels like it wants to kill you, but then again cheaper bikes from yamaha, kawasaki, and honda offer that same feeling with much cheaper maintenance.
Those passenger pegs....
Never buying a bike without cruise control.
Shame they stopped the 1200
I don't mind the lack of the trellis frame... Some fanboys are afraid of change, some of us embrace it...
My issue with it will likely be the lack of adjustable suspension... The Monster+ model is $12,400 here in the states, plus taxes and things... The Street Triple RS retails for only $400 more, but makes more power, has an Ohlins shock, Showa BPF front end, comes with better tires....
It has nice electronics and things, but when the price is almost the same as the much more capable Street RS, I would find it hard to justify... If I got the Monster, the first thing I would need to do is start dumping money into the suspension...
I dont like this kind of rear signal
Very “vanilla” bike.
it's 11 degree engine
Sounds like Euro 5 completely killed the engine sound. :( The styling could be an-other Japanese bike really. Hmm.
It looks like a Yamaha...
And still no cruise control
If its uncomfortable.... One should say it is..... Heard it gets hot a lot in those cold weathers..... In other countries where its generally hot....will burn you up...... Still a fantastic machine.....cheers
Oohhh no... what did they do to the monster!!! ??? Soo sad
Very sad...i own a monster myself...this one is a very confused bike...it just did'nt know to be either a monster or a street fighter...thats a pity...coz the monster saved Ducati...then this one could screw everything up...
very disappointed in ducati with this . probably the fugliest bike of 2021. each to there own i guess . be interested to know how its selling . well done trying to big it up .
It doesn't even look like a Ducati anymore aside from the branding on it. Huge downgrade in the aesthetics department from last gen IMO.
Nice looking bike would look better with an all matter black theme but it sounds rubbish not like the famous desmo sound.
I definitely agree on the colour. You never know, there might be an S or even an R to follow?! Would be interesting to hear the full Termignoni system on it to see if that livened it up a little.
I think they do a matt black version as well as a grey one.
The trellis frame is for the Monster what round back lights are for a Ferrari: such a design quew that you don't mess with it
Looks like an MV Agusta more than a Ducati
I’m sure it rides beautifully, but all the black looks like a pastic-y 125cc… also sounds like one. Also the headlight is horrible.
Glad I got a Monster with a trellis frame before they discontinued it. I guess this is my last Monster. The design department needs to be fired. Might as well buy a CB1000R or a Tuono.
Tuono
for 13k+I rather buy the stunning Kawasaki Z900RS ,BMWR9T nothing wrong with current monster except uninspired styling and price.
Looks like the Ducati design team were off their heads on tiramisu and heroin when they 'designed' the new for 2021 Ducati Chinchilla.
Yeah, no, I'll pass thanks !
It looks like a superbike on stilts with the fairing ripped off !
It looks very uncomfortable and awkward to ride and lacks any trace of character that the Monster range had in bucket loads ! Styling wise it looks like it's a parts bin special or a half race bike half adventure bike mash up and not even a Ducati soundtrack could make me slightly interested !
More expensive than a mt09…. No thanks
It's a Ducati? That's how it works.
Next step, put 2 more cilinders to get more power. So sad.
heres how you spot a kinky editor, the bike's red but no , lets make it orange for the intro.
Looks boring, nothing like a monster and its definitely missing a belly pan
Entry level my a**..
Monster: a large, ugly, and frightening imaginary creature.. . . I remember when the original Monster came out. It sounded good and I went to a dealership to have a look. Monster it wasn't. I have always found Ducatis to be too small. The name led me to hope for . . . A Monster. Now they persist in using the name and seem to be making something even less monstrous in every way. Perhaps Ducati Mouse?
Ducati Chinchilla
Uh oh! Doesn't even look like a Ducati. Designed in China?
It looks like a Keeway RKF 125 - a fine look for a £3K chinese learner bike. Not so much for an italian Monster.