2021 Ducati Monster Plus | First Ride
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Ducati just updated their Monster so it's time for a First Ride! They took away the trellis frame and swapped out the headlight but does it still feel and ride like a traditional Monster? Let's find out!
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that sound you're loving is the intake "honk" that most Monsters and related Duc's have... it only comes out during high load, so you don't hear it when just revving in neutral, etc - only on the road (or on a dyno, etc) - my Supersport S does the same thing (basically the same engine as this new monster, the 939 Testastretta 11degree engine, and the older monster's frame under the fairings).
Great first ride, great review! A LOT of upgrades, very nice. With a 414 lb curb weight, NOT a heavy bike. The departure from the trellis frame is not a big factor in my book. They've improved the engineering for weight savings, rider center of mass and improved performance. A very sweet package. Thanks again!
Started on a 2015 M.821. Although at first it was intimidating, it was easy to grow into. Didn't take it out of urban mode for the first week. Still riding the same bike, great machine.
Thank you, Chase, for this awesome video and all the other videos! Your idea to do a "First ride on track" is brilliant. I will watch all of them from start to end. I am 55 YO and live in NH USA. The 2022 Ducati Monster is my FIRST motorcycle and I love it. All electronic aid kept and continue to keep me from trouble. The gauge cluster was overwhelming for only 30-45 min then it becomes making more sense, and after 2 days of riding, I saw it as a very useful, complete, and simple source of information. Here in NH, we have very good roads, so I feel that the front suspension could be stiffer. However, when I drive to Boston (the roads are not so good) the front is very as it should be. Right on the money. After riding the bike for 1,500 miles (~2,400 Km) from new, I feel my decision on starting with the Monster is most appropriate. It is only heavier by 10-15 lb (5-8 Kg) than true "Entry Bikes" like R3 or Ninja400, however, it can be a bike to enjoy for years to come. Highly recommended as a "First Bike" even it is almost a liter engine (937CC).
OC: I’ve spent a month on this bike, and it’s exactly what you described. You nailed the review.
The video is amazing! The audio is awesome! And Chase's comments on the bike are very helpful! I'm just waiting for this bike to hit my showroom! SOLD! THANKS
Thanks for adding yet another motorcycle to my list of bikes I need to ride before I get a new one. OC baby!
The roar of my stock 1125r from 50-110 is one of my favorite things.
Excellent camera angle. Amazing Ducati motorcycle. Great review. 👍
The Scrambler: "Am I a joke to you?" :p
In his defense, Ducati markets ''Scrambler'' and every model related as like a sub-brand to Ducati. Hence, for example, it having a seperate website and stuff.
Thank you for saying "and ladies of course" 😁 You rock Chase!! I am liking the looks of this bike. OC.
I LOVE the trellis frame and at first I wouldn't even look at this 'monstered up' wanna-b. But after watching some videos and listening to professionals review some of the mods, I'm starting to realize there's a tradeoff. Maybe it really is time to let go the old. The same company that maintained the classic look of the Monster for decades now decided the old design was holding back performance improvements. I LOVE the water cooled option (the Monster is a "monster" to ride in stop and go traffic). The new dash/display is incredible. The bike is what, like.. 20kg lighter than the previous 797 (which I LOVED). So while the look may have changed a bit, this bike still rides, sounds and feels every bit the Monster. I'm gonna keep an open mind.
Great review, starter bike depends really on how you approach it, irrelevant of cc, my dad went from cbr150 to 1868 Harley stretbob done 1300 miles now and loves it, & cant keep of it , New monster is on its way in a couple of weeks or so and we cant wait to enjoy that too. Test ride the Daviel and that is a real monster, awesome power.
I’ve had my Monster+ for a couple months now, in Aviator Grey. I love it. I commute to work daily, even when it’s raining in the afternoons here in Virginia.
Sick, I’m currently on my first bike which is bmw g310r. I’m already feeling the need to upgrade. Would this be a choice second bike?
@@johnreggie7797 if you’re alright with the $12k price tag then yes. I went from a RC390 to this bike after three years of riding. The Urban mode this Monster has limits the engine to 75hp. It’s still plenty of power to reach dumb speeds or pass people on the interstate. But you can really grow into the bike and I’m sure after a year or so the aftermarket will catch up and we could start putting higher end suspension on it for an even sportier feel or make the bike feel more planted on track days.
YESSSSS!!!!! I was waiting for this First Ride :)
I’m at 1k miles on my 2021 monster +. The Termi full exhaust opened it up and let it breath/scream. I love every second of riding this beast. I 100% disagree that this is a starter bike. Over 100hp at 400 lbs shouldn’t be a 1st bike. It is easy to ride but not at all a 1st bike.
It’s only 75bhp in urban mode;)
Isn't the MT09 of the same pwer and still being almost a starter bike?
How did you tune it after the Termi exhuast?
What a bike! Loved the review! As a current Scrambler 800 owner I consider this as my next bike.
I'm in the same position. The thing about Ducati is how fun they are to ride. While the MT series which I have the CP2 in the Tenere, are great engines, but I have more fun on my Icon. The MT's are the Japanese version of Ducati, but they don't have the same gutteral feeling. They Whine, the don't rumble.
@@ericwilliams626 the MT’s also handle a lot worse then the Ducati’s, cheaper suspension coupled with a frame that flexes a bit to much
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah I'm not sure how you measure a lot worse, and Ducati is cheaper on their suspensions in comparison to Yamaha. The Monster demonstrates this in their cost cutting. I was not impressed with the Monster, not that it was bad, it just didn't have that I want it appeal. I am waiting for an upgrade before I decide.
@@ericwilliams626 Ducati most certainly isn’t cheaper in terms of chassis lol. MT’s, aside from the MT09 SP, are running unadjustable cheapo KYB’s that are tuned like pogo sticks from the factory, and the MT09 SP is still running a KYB, it’s just got compression and rebound adjustments on it, and a base Ohlins rear shock… Go charge a corner hard in a MT07 or a MT09 and let me know how unsettled they get, it’s pretty sketchy… but that goes beyond just the suspension, the frames flex waaay to much on the MT. One of the content creators on here did full suspension mods to a MT09 and it still couldn’t outrun a bone stock Street Triple RS on a track. If it can’t outrun a Street Triple, it’s not outrunning a new Monster, which is on par with a Street Triple in nearly every way in terms of how the chassis’s are tuned…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 never trust a guy who uses lol 😂 to communicate
That bike istn heavy its lightest on this class bike categorry. I'm start on KTM 390 Duke and after 3mounth i go to this and im feeling that perfect. Peace Chase from Poland. You do awesome jon.
Love your reviews ! Hug from portugal ! Keep up 😁
I've been fascinated by this bike. It seems like a perfect daily rider. Perhaps expensive, but is sure is gorgeous.
I have a previous generation 821 that I ride daily, I just rolled over 20k and loved every mile of it. They're pricy but one thing I've found is overlooked in comparisons to other bikes is the quality of the factory equipment. You get steel braided brake lines, BREMBO brakes, actually good suspension (in some cases adjustable), a quick shifter, that electronics package, and a lively feeling engine and chassis. An SV650 might be Monster-like but you'll spend more trying to make it into a Monster than just getting a Monster.
I'm actually tempted to trade mine in right now, though. I've had it for 3 years and I'm feeling it's time for something new. But my only two considerations are ANOTHER Monster or going balls to the walls and getting a Streetfighter.
I owned a 797+ and just traded that in for this bike the amount of quality electronics and other goodies brembo and quick sifter also custom modes you can’t beat it for the price. It’s such a fun easy and powerful bike.
Great video, different angles, looks like 4G! I’m getting one; waiting on delivery!
I know this is almost a year old video but anyone wondering about the "Ducati Service Cost" has to consider a couple things:
Ducati has way more confidence in their metallurgy now than a decade ago, and oil/chemical quality has gotten way better than a decade ago.
The oil service is recommended every 9000 miles. Yes, nine-thousand. Desmo service (valve inspection and belt change) is due every 18000 miles.
I daily a 2019 821 and with the amount of riding I do I only have to change the oil once a year and I do Desmo about every other year.
For comparison, a Kawasaki Z900 calls for oil every about 7500 miles and valve adjustment every 15k. So the Ducati actually requires LESS service than a comparable Japanese motorcycle.
That being said, Desmo service does involve belts and the valve system is kinda whacky so there is slightly more labor and materials involved, but when I had it done it lined up with my annual so the dealership did all the fluids and chain maintenance and etc at the same time and put it all on the same bill. They had my bike for about a business day doing all that, and it cost me just about $800 out the door, parts and labor included.
Not too bad. Gone are the days of checking valves every oil change and changing the oil every 5000 miles, gone are the $1000+ "maintenance" bills. And ever since VW took over ordering parts has become much quicker.
Ducati is premium but not overpriced.
OC: general everyday, yes. The one for me, I don't think so. I like the monster but I'm not sure if I'd want it to be my main bike
the editing on the showcase was immaculate 0:50
Great bike and also great music in the video near the beginning. Who made those beats? Love to hear more of that. Cheers to all Ducati Lovers!
I'm sure I would love riding this bike. But. I really do appreciate the way the bike use to look.
Oc: seems like a awesome daily rider I’d love one for commuting and such
Would love to try one of these out. Or the MV Augusta dragster
OC! Amazing review! been waiting for more ducati and monster reviews because I have a 2019 yellow monster 821 (predecessor to this M900) and I love it! it was my first bike, dropped it once or thrice, hurt a bit, had one fall with her but amazing bike because of the charisma it has, the modes are amazing for when I'm less confident or its raining, pop it down to Urban mode! You can find a demo model older version for 15K CAD - including a 2K termi exhaust, rizoma mirrors, etc!
Beautiful ride. Love it, I own a 17’ monster. My question to you is, I have the use of only my left arm, my brother and I are switching everything over so that I’m able to ride. Any suggestions on getting the bike any safer?
it a brilliant bike over all, light and enough power
OC - I think I'd go a 950 Multistrada over that as a daily. More comfort and more wind protection.
Just bought this for my first bike a month ago. Love it.
first bike? how's it so far?
@@dontmindme4466 I’ve been riding dirt bikes and quads most of my life. Also rode my brothers 600cc scooter a few times so have an idea how to ride. By no means do I consider myself skilled. I put 1500 miles on and love it. The modes are great. I keep it in sport but with wheelie control and traction control pretty high just in case. I love the bike fast as I could imagine to go on street with plenty extra. Also the the fact that I can grow into it like chase said is great. Main thing is never try to keep up with anyone. The saying ride your own ride will save your life
@@Nick-bp8fw I see. I dont have any of those experiences, so I'll just get a 300cc class bike just to be safe :)
cheers!
@@dontmindme4466 it's a amazing bike, I have mine as a daily bike. And still fun on weekends with the friends. But I recommend the Term.... exhaust its really popps nice 😋
@@ddmvgaming932 I see terms on all the ducatis lol
Just bought one today Holy shit it's fast. The torque is incredible. I rode a diavel and it didn't pull as hard
This is going to be my first motorcycle
The great sound that you ear at 6-7000RPM y when the exhaust valve opens =)
Love the Monsters, I'm on my second (first 796 and now a 821 Stealth). Of all the bikes thant I had, It is the only one that serve me well going to work, comute on the weekends and a long trip ones a year. And yes, at least optional cruise control would be lovely but....I loooove this model !
The thing that I do not like on this 2021 model, the design is too close to the Yamaha MT, I prefer the "old style Monsters"
PS: The "bikini" fairing does something ! It pulls away the wind on your arms. I tried without it an the wind tries to "separate both arms away"
PS2: You CAN select the layout design on each screen en the setup menu ! ;)
Like the bike and would think it would make a good daily rider. As for a beginner bike it would be ok for someone with the right mind set and would use all the safety controls while getting started. As for me, I will just stick with my GSX-S 750 due to maintenance is a lot cheaper. The monster without it's railing I like on that bike and is a plus on weight reduction.
Man, you just made me decide to get this bike!
Yaaaas! I’m that guy - rode bikes my whole life, dirt bikes, old 750 cruisers, even the Venture, now I am comparing picking up this to something more retro and off road capable like the Ducati Desert Sled for a daily. The honest answer is I want to daily this, all day! I get the Scrambler appeal but isn’t it more of a cafe / bar bike?? Just saying, the new Monster is the future of a daily naked. Put my deposit down on one today. BAM!
OC: absolutely. I’ve always loved the monsters for being the approachable everyday Ducati. Also I really got classic FZ07 vibes from that tank anyone else?
The bison back tank has always looked like that since it came out back in 1992. Watch the Crow: City of Angels that’s what kind of bike he has.
i have 5 minutes of riding experience will be buying this bike!
I do like the look, interesting that red feature on that back wheel when it's rolling, what do you call that? If a person has the money I don't see why it can't serve as a daily ride especially if you get it in blue, grey, or brown.
Lucky enough to own the Ducati Supersport s that has the same engine, and previously owned a Monster 696+, not sure about the looks and no signature trellis. Will stick with the beloved MT10, thanks Chasey.
The bike I will be owning this spring Lets goooooo.
OC. Thank you. for the review. i'm in the market for it.
I agree….Ducati red is the way to go, especially if it’s your first.
Nice review. It would have been interesting to hear what you thought of the heat level when in traffic. I also think a brief "compare and contrast" from Luke between this and his M1200 would be illuminating. But "Oops!" the model you've captioned as a Monster 821 at 21:38 is actually a 797 - two completely different animals...
Yes, Im wondering the same thing about the heat level. Im in a hot climate and I had a triumph Daytona 675 before. It was unbearable in traffic.
I came to this review only for the comments about how the heat level is. I don't need to arrive to work everyday with a state fair turkey leg.
OC: I think they've found the sweet spot. I want to complain about looks, but those disappear when you hop on. Those of us that prefer the classic style probably already have one anyways.
OC. I love mine. and for the power? it smokes my old Mt 09...so be careful out there!
Hello sir, what do you like best for fun factor / special feeling and just a weekend and morning commute bike between the Triumph Trident, Honda CB650R and the Monster 797 or 821 or this one the Monster Plus, or Kawasaki z900RS, KTM, = your opinion please? Thank you love your work. Or any other you like better than these? Riding 35 years have a Kawasaki 175 dirt and Harley Heritage, looking to add a lighter, easier to trailer bike.
OC: I have zero ties to any Monster before this and I like the way it looks. I disagree that it’s a beginner friendly bike but I agree that it would make for good urban commuter.
it's actually very beginner friendly in urban mode, touring and sport really wake it up
OC: I think it would make a great daily. I'm not a big Ducati fan but this looks really good. I don't think I'd ever own one because Ducati is Italian for expensive to maintain lol. But, I'd never turn down the opportunity to take one for a spin!
The New ducatis are not every 15k km oil Chance and at 30k km desmo service
About 2001 to 2004 they were perfect
Kinda looks like a mix between KTM 790 Duke and Yamaha MT-07.
I just got a 2021 MT-09. If it gets faster than it already is, I’m going to be mind blown. I’ve always ridden cruisers so this bike feels like ludicrous mode. It also makes me wonder how I always kept up to some degree with my friends because they all ride sport and supersports. It’s like I start going, then I look down and I’m already at 80mph. Also through turns I’m going super easy while I get used to it and it’s effortless to faster than I ever have through turns I take often and am usually hammering the gas while dragging pegs. This bike is barely even leaning, or at least it doesn’t feel like I am.
Keeping up with super sports on back roads isn’t hard as the power band on an i4 (specifically the 600’s) is quite unforgiving. They need to be high in the rev range or else they’re not very fast. Your MT09 will trash a 600 everywhere, specifically in acceleration though, except top speed on the interstate or in the corners where a 600 shines. They’re just gutless under 12,000 rpm, where your MT09 definitely isn’t gutless lol
Bought one today at MM thanks to you and Janelle (sp)
OC: Talking only about the Ducati line here, but yeah definitely, this is their entry level bike for sure, price and power wise. A bike that you can start on and as your experience progresses change to higher mode settings, bro i'd never buy another bike... :p First gotta have enough money to buy it though hmm.. :p
Wouldn’t say beginner but yeah, it’s like they tried at making a “beginner”
What are you using for the audio for your video, do you have a mic plugged into your go pro?
Hey 👋 just want to let you know that this video lead me to buy my Ducati monster 937 in grey with red wheels.
Man I love how professional your videos are. I love it. I have a motorcycle and I am not planning to buy one, at least in North America but I love watching your videos regardless. :)
From your point of view on the GoPro the tank shape and form has a sort of Honda cb650r look or maybe that's just me?
ducatis entry level bike is the scrambler my guy
Hard to find an easier to ride road bike with this much punch.
Good video! But you don't have to explain why you have ads in everytime!
Chase whatever happened to the venom 125cc upgrade video been wating for it?
The rear brake lever is low for sure!
This looks like Yamaha's interpretation of a Ducati. Not that it's an ungly bike, but it's certainly not the gorgeous machine that the old ones were.
Ducati FZ for sure, I'll keep my old trellis frame air cooled monster
Looks aren't everything. If the weight reduction translates to better performance I'm willing to give the new model a chance.
The lack of a trellis frame definitely doesn’t look as cool, but it’s lighter and handles better with the new frame
I kinda feel that way as well. It does feel good when sitting on the bike. It’s really light weight much like the Aprilia tuono 660. It’s still a really nice bike in the flesh.
It's lighter and faster. It's better in every way that matters. If you hold on to the past just for the sake of holding on to the way something looks, you become Harley. Do you want Ducati to become Harley with their inefficient pushrods and stone age cradled engines? Maybe it's because I'm an engineer but screw that. If you want a trellis frame go buy an SV650. The Ducati badge means speed, and you don't get speed with an overweight trellis frame, not when KTM are putting their best engineers on making a mockery of you
Best Monster ever !!!
What camera is being used for the rolling shots? Looks sick
Hy brother...the bike is very beautiful.
I wanted to know is there any giveaway this year?
OC:I think the Monster/Monster+ would be not just a great commuter bike, but a great starter bike for anyone like you said, the settings could be turned down to their lowest. The price point at $12K sounds expensive, but in the long run could be cheaper. Example: Let’s say a new rider buys a Ninja 400 for $5k, then when he gets a second bike, he buys a Yamaha R7 for $8999.00 that’s about $14K all together, and you have to almost relearn to ride because the R7 has more aggressive positioning and everything. So in the long run the Monster is still the same ride, you can just turn the power, and everything up etc. so yeah the Monster really doesn’t sound like too far fetched of a starting point, should you grow out of the Monster (At 900 CC I don’t see how) but if you really want something else later just get the Monster 1200 at that point, or if you have the money, get the Street Fighter V4, I don’t know how different the two are, but you might as well give the Hyper Naked a go.
might as well just get a h2 and restrict it with that philosophy
@@joshy420 Except an H2 costs more than twice as much as a Monster and is waaaaay too much power for 99% of people.
@@hecticphusion Just restrict it then?
This ducati does remind me of the CB1000R Black Edition. THough I would trade that Honda I own for the sound of that Ducati, though I Tend to like the 1200 S. Pretty bike. Would have liked to have the Trelis frame, but that's not an offensive thing fo rme.
OC
Every V twin vibrates like crazy over 6k rpm... not just ducati
I get what Ducati was aiming for with this bike. I like it but prefer the 1200s. I get that they did not want a new 1200s to compete with the street fighter v4 in sales, but they are two different bikes for sure.
When I first saw the release of the new Monster I knew I wanted one. Went to a Ducati dealership to check them out and for a little under $15k otd ($14,738) with no adjustable front suspension I said nope. That’s the only drawback for me at that price is no adjustable front suspension. Good review though Chase!
Got mine in dark stealth ordererd just 10k€ with discount in Germany
@@rafah8807 That’s an awesome price!
Which country do you live in? Monster official price is 12000$
The lack of an offering in the 1200 R version with full Öhlins is a deciding factor.
Great video. This or MT? 😀
Sold my 2015 Monster 821 stripe a few months ago and bough this new Monster. Great bike and love the new styling but all that weight loss has made the steering a bit prone to the oranges of a tank slapper trying to grab control of the bike when passing big trucks or fairly brisk overtaking especially in high winds so I have ordered a steering damper for mine. I will update on how it works when its fitted.
You ever get It Installed? can you make a vid?
@@sebastianrules82 Still waiting for the part to come in as well as its termi full system - will update with riding report and video when its installed.
So I finally got the Ohlins damper fitted on Friday and wow what a difference. Bike is now as stable as my S1000RR and Panigale. It was supplied and fitted by the Ducati dealer because my insurance would frown on diy jobs of that nature. Only now a year after getting the bike can I finally enjoy it to the full. I will make a video and post it on here as requested.
How does the engine breaking in make the bike faster? I know about break in on a car, but that's about longevity of the engine, not performance enhancement. Genuine question.
Trelis frame adds weight to the bike. I'm okay with itnot having it. Frankly, this bike is so tempting to me. I have CB1000R Black, and if this bike had cruise control, I wouldn't think about it, since my HOnda doesn't have it, but Not sure it has it. SP version is nice, though. The sound is great.
I"ve been riding bikes for over 25 years, and frankly, I would buy this bike fo me. Plenty of power, confortable bike, and good looking. THe SP model really temps me, but I have to go with the black paint (I think its matte black?)
Thing is, you compare it to my HOnda CB100R Black Edition, and, while the HOnda is a bit more expensive, (not much) that bike is built SO WELL and oes not look cheap. AFter seeing this bike abit more, the red is growing on me.
Lithia Springs has a used Monster I'm dying to own
Bingeing your 1st rides. Just bought a 2022 MT-09 SP. It's amazing. Going to talk a bit of smack real quick :) It seems like wind is constantly brought up. I just don't get it. Maybe because my first bike is a DR650 with no shield. My snowmobiles have high windshields, but it is usually below 15 degrees so it is justified. I use earplugs and I love the wind. I consider it just part of the sport...being out in the elements. Try riding a DR650 in 45 degree rain at night. Wind on a nice warm Georgia day is just fantastic in comparison. I get you have to let people know about the wind for bikes. At the same time, boo hoo :) Ok I'm done. Love the vids man. Yea you should get your weight down. Calories in calories out. The bikes will be even faster :)
looks like a MT-07 without the signature trellis frame
damn fine sound!
how does it compare to the 2021 MT09 and 2021 MT09 SP?
11:30 seconds in 🙌
OC: if the bike has some nice luggage options I would daily that hoe.
That noise is the induction of air through the air intake. I have a 2001 monster 750 and it one of my favorite things about the bike.
Bike looking like MT 07/09 line. Interesting if u compare to MT-09.
they need to add the street fighter belly pan and front fairing near the radiator to really set off the looks of this bike.. i know itd jack the price up probably a grand but these naked bikes look like theyre missing a lot without that bottom fairing that squares off the front with the tire...
Ducati Gods heard your request, in comes Monster SP :D 3 grand more please and the title to your house
they do sell belly pan
Did you feel any unbearable heat coming from the engine when sitting in traffic? You mentioned it was a hot day and obviously the engine emits heat, but wondering how bad it was?
Right thigh yes . Simple fix open your legs wide
OC: Last time i rode one,it felt amazing, updates make it better, but competition has more fun per dollars !
yes, a little over-priced & under-powered, for what its worth
Surprised RPD hadn’t got you on the 400
Im not sure if I'm the only one who thanks this but honestly the bike looks like a suped up larger grom
OC: Definitely seems like the best daily Ducati and at that price. Still think the Tuono 660 would be a better daily naked bike than the Monster.
Did you ride Aprilia? I was thinking about RS660 but after test ride I gave up on it...
@@pchzl Yes. I thought the Tuono I rode was great. Had everything I'd want in a commuter naked bike and still felt great while doing some technical riding in the mountains.
If the new Duc Supersport is made in this frame I’m in.
Not gonna happen. Ss still sports touring.maybe cut a little weight ok. They will kill there own sales which is the v2 of they made it super light with this frame
Monster or MT09SP…what would you prefer?
Any protection at all in those Cheesy Gloves ????
I hope I was here early 🙌🏼❤️
UK gets those LED integrated front turn signals and they look so good! Why does US always get the short end of the stick!?