Kobe Bryant's beef with Ray Allen was short, but haunted Kobe for years

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  • @TheDonkeyFLOPPER
    @TheDonkeyFLOPPER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    I met ray allen when I used to work in a hotel. Super friendly and willing to just talk and chill. Loves talking basketball. Really left a great impression on me. Nothing but respect for him and Kobe

    • @roslinmarcelogabrielc.1290
      @roslinmarcelogabrielc.1290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah I remember you

    • @okkovaara
      @okkovaara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fake.

    • @charlespropes1340
      @charlespropes1340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      He is very classy. We went to high school and graduated together. He was ahead of his times then.

    • @Kyle1227
      @Kyle1227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@okkovaara good observation smartass

    • @raxy7948
      @raxy7948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cap

  • @alexwyss7828
    @alexwyss7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4007

    R.I.P. Kobe. It’s still hard to believe he’s gone.

    • @isaachernandez5546
      @isaachernandez5546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Alex Wyss it’s so sad

    • @Faint7903
      @Faint7903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      IKR I just can’t believe it.

    • @teamflixx6269
      @teamflixx6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alex Wyss Alex wuss you’re so right

    • @downtoearthproductions
      @downtoearthproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/gaw8II9ItN0/w-d-xo.html
      "In Loving Memory Of"(Farewell Kobe Song) written by 20Gs and produced by Down To Earth Productions. 🐍🐍🐍💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏

    • @krisdaschwab912
      @krisdaschwab912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      In the end, Ray Allen won the beef.

  • @HW.0029
    @HW.0029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +723

    The scary thing is, Ray's prophecy was damn on point. Goddamn

    • @linkinlinkinlinkin654
      @linkinlinkinlinkin654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tf

    • @user-ju4ew6hn1i
      @user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@linkinlinkinlinkin654 it was actually, people forget the Lakers had serious struggles and Kobe was one of those guys with good stats and play style but wasn’t gaining anything with it

    • @user-ju4ew6hn1i
      @user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Curly Que yh but he never even tried to have faith in them but he still won two more so all is fair I guess

    • @acenice285
      @acenice285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Every player needs someone to win MJ, Kobe, Bron, and Ray Allen

    • @squirtleisthebestpokemon9745
      @squirtleisthebestpokemon9745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Huh, it's almost like that was the main point of the video.

  • @lamonteezy
    @lamonteezy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +808

    Ray Allen is one of the underrated SG’s of all time

    • @connorsalvatori1721
      @connorsalvatori1721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Kobe’s still better

    • @Thefreakofthemeek
      @Thefreakofthemeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Jesus Shuttleworth will never be underrated

    • @mh-do3pe
      @mh-do3pe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      He had a better shot than KB that's for sure

    • @MDHDH-iy7nm
      @MDHDH-iy7nm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@Thefreakofthemeek I honestly feel like people forget how great he was because now we are spoiled by Klay Thompson and Curry, thats just how it is; to think those two are probably gonna surpass his made 3s and at a significantly higher % is absolutely mindblowing...

    • @garydarling2641
      @garydarling2641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And he did it with such grace - the polar opposite of Gary Payton, whom Ray replaced

  • @casamist
    @casamist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3384

    I think history has proven everyone needs atleast 2.5 players to win a championship

    • @joejett5084
      @joejett5084 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      That made me kawhi laugh

    • @ontheceiling2106
      @ontheceiling2106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Anita Bocala those are outliers not the exception

    • @notrueburial
      @notrueburial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Hakeem.

    • @tylangibbs3381
      @tylangibbs3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you

    • @tylangibbs3381
      @tylangibbs3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      @@psmsanitabocalabocala4090 Jason Kidd (HOF)
      Jason Terry (former 6th man finalist)
      Vince Carter ( future HOF)
      Shawn Marion (Defensive specialist)

  • @TruthBTold-
    @TruthBTold- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1553

    This is so BEAUTIFULLY put together... Makes you realize the mutual respect u have for anyone you've played with and or against...Love both guys

    • @unxpctd79molowe23
      @unxpctd79molowe23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truth B. Told Word!
      #Fact

    • @anthonyali7309
      @anthonyali7309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great rivalries makes great theater

    • @TruthBTold-
      @TruthBTold- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonyali7309 True b !!!

    • @TruthBTold-
      @TruthBTold- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rjmw Stfu

    • @TruthBTold-
      @TruthBTold- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unxpctd79molowe23 👍🏾

  • @momo-man9664
    @momo-man9664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1744

    RIP to the great Kobe Bean Bryant. Mamba forever.

    • @chel9157
      @chel9157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even though he wouldn’t want us to but him dying brought me to my knees

    • @mattryan8727
      @mattryan8727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Kye Block STFU😠 NO HE DIDN'T

    • @Nlss_
      @Nlss_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kye Block And you are a broken condom.

    • @lamontmayes6768
      @lamontmayes6768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      None of us know if he really rapped her or not . I do recall the new saying she had three other men seamen in her besides Kobe. Ppl always trying to judge other wat about wat in ur closet

    • @someonerandom2416
      @someonerandom2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jim Beam yo look at this CLOWN. He didn't just so you know

  • @fwest524
    @fwest524 6 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    It's all about the 96 Draft.... One of the BEST ever 💀💀💀

  • @trenapier206
    @trenapier206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I'm from Seattle. People will never know how much we still miss our Sonics... RIP Kobe. We'll always miss you.

    • @siege824s8
      @siege824s8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a Lakers fan LA will happily give you the Clippers do what you with them

    • @am8115
      @am8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@siege824s8 I like that move

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seattle is trash. Stick to making terrible communes like CHAZ and being triggered by orange man bad

    • @mr.kcfromthe8138
      @mr.kcfromthe8138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't been able to follow a NBA season since they left.

    • @AliceYobby
      @AliceYobby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel you man. At least the Mariners are doing well this year……💀

  • @Calilou52
    @Calilou52 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1570

    "I had the brews she had the chronic, the Lakers beat the Supersonics"

    • @jameskimp49
      @jameskimp49 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I'm a little retarded haha from Seattle

    • @lhfirex
      @lhfirex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Checking to see if Bobby's rap music is safe?

    • @showluvnomercy559
      @showluvnomercy559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Ice Cube

    • @thebballer3018
      @thebballer3018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It was a good day

    • @davidmartinez9804
      @davidmartinez9804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Love that song. So deep so deep put her ass to sleep. Woke her up around one
      she didn't hesitate, to call Ice Cube the top gun.

  • @alekesam
    @alekesam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    "And Kobe hits a game winner on Allen."
    The first of many.

    • @trashcan2641
      @trashcan2641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      alekesam buzzer beater* not trying to be disrespectful though

    • @Someone-hi1nt
      @Someone-hi1nt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pretty sure it wasnt a game winner

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 6 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Man, if only the Timberwolves held on to Ray Allen instead of trading him for Stephon Marbury in 1996. KG and Allen wouldn't have had to wait 12 years to win an NBA Championship together.

    • @dustencoyj
      @dustencoyj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rudie Obias still wouldn’t of won with no pierce dummy

    • @F33TUS
      @F33TUS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      They very well could have won a championship in Minnesota. There is no way to tell what roster moves they would have made around those guys because we will never know.

    • @chitoim2332
      @chitoim2332 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kareme rush killed the wolves chance to win a ring think about that lol

    • @svenshrempf
      @svenshrempf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      F33TUS no, the Spurs, the lakers, and even the Mavs was way better, even if they didn't trade Allen on draft day

    • @F33TUS
      @F33TUS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Like I said we will never know the roster moves they would make around those guys. You can't just assume that they would do everything the same except replacing Marbury with Allen. Their draft position changes because they would be a better team, they never trade Marbury for the players they got in return and they don't pick up Latrell Sprewell because they already have a shooting guard in the 03-04 season. There are numerous other things that you also have to consider that wouldn't play out exactly the same.

  • @ljcool17
    @ljcool17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    Remember, Kobe never forgets.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ljcool17 what is he an elephant?

    • @bellajen9997
      @bellajen9997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      He forgets to pass

    • @DanteGoldz
      @DanteGoldz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      harp Harp all time assist leader for lakers

    • @Alex_Pinkney
      @Alex_Pinkney 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      TheSwagIsBack Magic Johnson=10,141
      Kobe=6,306

    • @gdn7
      @gdn7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CPGoat #3
      I see what you did there
      #Maury

  • @uncleesmentalhealthnetwork6339
    @uncleesmentalhealthnetwork6339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    The reason why it was so accurate is because of Michael Jordan. Jordan went through much of the same thing. He didn't trust his teammates, he thought he had to do everything and the coaching reinforced those notions. It was only after Phil Jackson came in and made Jordan aware that he had a team and he wasn't going to win without them, that he won and kept winning.
    The more you forget history the more it repeats itself.

    • @TheMrbc74
      @TheMrbc74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ve the Jew in the barbershop from coming to America. Replace rocky marciano with Jordan and that’s you

    • @gregorylagrange
      @gregorylagrange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      A few differences though. Jordan didn't ask for a trade. Jordan was self aware enough that he didn't shoot his teams out of games. Jordan was on a much worse organization. Jordan would initially resist, but would also give things a chance to work. And would admit when he was wrong.

    • @essentiel2b
      @essentiel2b 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reason MJ didn't "trust" his teammates early on though was because most of the Bulls roster during his early years was addicted to cocaine and he wasn't gonna blend with that crowd
      A more accurate statement would be that MJ hadn't developed or matured into a winner yet. That whole "selfish player" narrative is way overblown when you consider the state of those Bulls rosters in the 80s

    • @Recurses
      @Recurses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@gregorylagrange kobes team post shaq were way worse and he was in a way tougher conference and era than jordan

  • @tajindersingh8471
    @tajindersingh8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Maybe Kobe didn’t guard ray that time cause he didn’t want to be known as the guy who was guarding Allen when he broke the 3 point record

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      if there was one thing kobe never did, it was back down from a challenge

  • @MrMW2nd
    @MrMW2nd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3136

    Nobody’s ever won anything significant without other good players lol

    • @NotoriousNYNJ
      @NotoriousNYNJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      MrMW2nd pistons 2004?

    • @xiamfinal571
      @xiamfinal571 6 ปีที่แล้ว +706

      Marc NY they were all good lol

    • @marionmills3140
      @marionmills3140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      2011 mavs ?

    • @NotoriousNYNJ
      @NotoriousNYNJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      xIamFinal they were good as a unit but none of them were superstars... you prolly don't even think of any of them instantly when you think of the hall of fame

    • @Hidden_Seeker_
      @Hidden_Seeker_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      Marc NY. They had two prime future HOFers and a ton of talent

  • @yandairy3986
    @yandairy3986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2000

    Ray Allen has the smoothest jump shot in nba history

    • @rhyss5599
      @rhyss5599 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Va Ho steph and klay?

    • @GegiZ
      @GegiZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      not true.

    • @jayblaze2359
      @jayblaze2359 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      nah klay do

    • @320HOOPS
      @320HOOPS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Va Ho CHECK PUT MY CHANNEL FOR THE BEST REACTIONS ON TH-cam!!! JOIN MY WORLD 🌎🛸

    • @dereknyc4402
      @dereknyc4402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Form yes but smoothness goes to VC...dude pulls up from half court like its a free throw

  • @redheadredemption1573
    @redheadredemption1573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It amazes me that Ray Allen is featured in two separate beef history episodes. He seems so laid back.

    • @gregorylagrange
      @gregorylagrange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He is. And that's a reason.

    • @williamcartwright373
      @williamcartwright373 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@gregorylagrange army brat,structured and knows who he is. People are threatened by that.

    • @kevineiford2153
      @kevineiford2153 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ray Allen's a straight shooter. He tells it like it is. When we lost our team I remember Ray shrugging about it to the media, and saying that he told us this would happen if we didn't build them an arena in 05. It was true, but it was like, c'mon Ray we just lost our friggin team

  • @edog4153
    @edog4153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    Kobe Bryant, Rest in Peace

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Kobe Bryant and Ray Allen both came into the league in the same year 1996. By the end of their careers, they were ranked in the top 10 all-time among shooting guards with the former being the 2nd while the latter is somewhere around 6 to 10.
    I'm still having a tough time knowing that Kobe is no longer with us anymore. RIP Kobe.

    • @lamasekte4357
      @lamasekte4357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1996 was a good year for SGs, with Kobe, Ray and AI all being drafted

  • @TheFlightMike
    @TheFlightMike 6 ปีที่แล้ว +646

    My brand new favorite series!!!!!!!!

    • @therealggoat1087
      @therealggoat1087 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheFlightMike aye what’s is up Mike

    • @neal6473
      @neal6473 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TheFlightMike my's to.

    • @BloopTheNoop
      @BloopTheNoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of videos does this Mike have? If y’all tell me about them and it sounds interesting I’d give it a try :)

    • @jqualls7901
      @jqualls7901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🗣 BEEF

    • @instxnctt
      @instxnctt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rip kobe

  • @BitcoinMotorist
    @BitcoinMotorist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1368

    Ray Allen's never had Kobe beef.

    • @DaggerMan11
      @DaggerMan11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      I'm sure he has. Just not in a while since he only eats veggies and fish.

    • @jordanmatyas6642
      @jordanmatyas6642 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LMAO

    • @tr3ybucks287
      @tr3ybucks287 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Forreal. SB reachin lmao

    • @hectorcarr3050
      @hectorcarr3050 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Some people here didn’t understand the pun 😂

    • @dinneratlunch
      @dinneratlunch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Trey Buckets Kobe is a Japanese beef

  • @jhova187
    @jhova187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    “To be the best you challenge the best, then the blessings are spiritual “- Nas

  • @metsrus
    @metsrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Ray Allen is very intelligent and analytical. One of the most underrated nba players ever.

  • @charleydog2669
    @charleydog2669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even follow basketball anymore, but am having a lot of fun watching your channel.

  • @victorvondoom7155
    @victorvondoom7155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1174

    Jesus Shuttlesworth!!!!!!! Vs the Black Mamba!!!!!!!

    • @bigd2302
      @bigd2302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ray always won

    • @MotivateMeNowRevolution
      @MotivateMeNowRevolution 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Kobe Bryant is Original Shuttlesworth

    • @jamesperry6751
      @jamesperry6751 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Victor von Doom71 ND the mamba WON

    • @poswaybentleyfromtheancients-
      @poswaybentleyfromtheancients- 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyle Bryan Tobias W

    • @bucky90269
      @bucky90269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kobe would've made a better Jesus Shuttlesworth. He had the fro and looked more like Denzel. And he had just graduated high school and the movie is about a high school basketball player.

  • @tomswill9189
    @tomswill9189 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1482

    Prophesy fulfilled.

    • @thegent6134
      @thegent6134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      TOMS WILL The *prophecy* was also fulfilled.

    • @sebneria
      @sebneria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "prophesy" lmao

    • @vt248
      @vt248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lol, wtf?!?! It was Ray Allen who needed the 3 All-Stars

    • @KingBenny
      @KingBenny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so maybe he is jesus

    • @thekornreeper
      @thekornreeper 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth

  • @erockstoenescu6171
    @erockstoenescu6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +683

    This was awesome! Great editing and narrating. Kobe is my favorite basketball player ever.

    • @sergestrada2
      @sergestrada2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Erock Stoenescu I'm sorry Kobe is your all time favorite

    • @erockstoenescu6171
      @erockstoenescu6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      sergestrada2 - sorry for what? He’s one of the GOATs and taught me so much about life and basketball. Plus he’s provided me with countless memories and good times.

    • @erockstoenescu6171
      @erockstoenescu6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’m sorry he’s not yours!

    • @sergestrada2
      @sergestrada2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Erock Stoenescu again I'm sorry dude. You must be from LA or live there cause that's the only way I can see you admire him

    • @jtsmooth5671
      @jtsmooth5671 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same and I'm not even from L.A Kobe left it all on the court blood & sweat, nvr took a night off unless he was forced to, he relished in competition invited it nvr ran from it, he is a alpha on the court and outta every single great basketball player tht played for the Lakers them players say he's the best Laker ...#Greatness

  • @bobbyewing311
    @bobbyewing311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I normally don't get on the comment section and gush about how awesome the production value of a video is but OH MAN game recognize game. I am stunned at the level of detail put into every frame of this video, perfect editing, and great scriptwriting. I subbed so quick after the video because I want to see more like this.

  • @nettune9980X
    @nettune9980X 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rest in Peace to Kobe and his daughter and the passengers and the pilot and those who died.

  • @kmena05
    @kmena05 6 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    James catches, puts up a three...(ball bounces off the back of the rim) won't go! Rebound Bosh, back out to Allen! His three-pointer...(ball swishes through the net) BANG! TIE GAME WITH 5 SECONDS REMAINING! 👀👀👀

    • @Mak2Grim
      @Mak2Grim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Kevin M oh man tell me why I read it in the way the announcer did lol

    • @cg9608
      @cg9608 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      gave me chills haha what a game

    • @XYZ-ke6qi
      @XYZ-ke6qi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The spurs do not have a timeout

    • @ronaldoh80
      @ronaldoh80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This was probably the best moment of nba I’ve witnessed growing up

    • @rockmorales
      @rockmorales 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saved that man's legacy!

  • @freezedatakeover
    @freezedatakeover 6 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Allen was a bad boy he was just on some bad teams early in his career

    • @354allday
      @354allday 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Freeze Biggs That Bucks team did get robbed to send that weak sixer team to the final

    • @musicshit4352
      @musicshit4352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JERU They still woulda got smacked

    • @DomoH213
      @DomoH213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bucks was a great team at that time but like he said even if they made it to the finals they still wouldve got smacked

    • @ky5059
      @ky5059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine if him & Kobe teamed when shaq left..

  • @Whyukfan35
    @Whyukfan35 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ray Allen had such a smooth, all-around and well put together game. Really a text book player for kids who play on the wing to watch.

  • @nkentable
    @nkentable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I miss watching both of these guys, they were mentally tough and always gave it everything they had. Players now don't compete like they did. Rays defense on Kobe in the 08 finals is overlooked

    • @dantegood2195
      @dantegood2195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is cap. How do players not compete like they did? Chill with the nostalgia crap

  • @lancemorrison8561
    @lancemorrison8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm sure they were better friends than any of us fans will ever know! RIP Kobe!

  • @motherboard06
    @motherboard06 6 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    let's do beef history with Kobe and Shaq IDFK it's an 1-2 hours long

    • @chillywilly3285
      @chillywilly3285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Derick Faustino you missed the "players only shaq and kobe" yesrerday on tnt during all star weekend

    • @motherboard06
      @motherboard06 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      chillywilly thanks for letting me know

    • @chillywilly3285
      @chillywilly3285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup its only about 45 min tho

  • @SmoothCriminal12
    @SmoothCriminal12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I had no idea it was George Karl who drove both Glenn Robinson and Ray Allen out of Milwaukee.

    • @mattbrigidi
      @mattbrigidi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Matt Scott “George Karl vs. Every one” would be a great Beef History

    • @SmoothCriminal12
      @SmoothCriminal12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which other players has Karl pissed off?

    • @aariesharris7894
      @aariesharris7894 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Matt Scott he also wrote a book about how Melo was very uncoachable

    • @mattbrigidi
      @mattbrigidi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      here’s a brief history of george karl beef
      www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2015/6/23/8830539/george-karl-snake-demarcus-cousins-history

    • @moadewunmi9380
      @moadewunmi9380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      George Karl was an under the radar racist for a while. Only the players knew. Nobody else did.

  • @aaroncluff5176
    @aaroncluff5176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Still haven’t gotten Ray Allen vs the Celtics beef😕

  • @jamestheradioman
    @jamestheradioman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great production on this video.
    The content is so well presented and compelling, you totally miss the excellent production value: video, voice-over and dramatic music (all seamlessly in balance without overshadowing each other).

  • @Two.Face4
    @Two.Face4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rip Kobe one of the most inspirational passionate players to play the game had to watch this gem again in his honor#24

  • @andersonmccnimportequoi5336
    @andersonmccnimportequoi5336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    0:57 Dikembe's face 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

    • @bobfole4781
      @bobfole4781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Anderson Mccn'importe quoi face sour as hell 😂😂😂🌚

  • @agonagoncillo2872
    @agonagoncillo2872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    need retro ones like magic vs isaiah

  • @u121386
    @u121386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    He’s gone. I can’t believe it 😭😭😭
    R.I.P. Kobe❤️

    • @vincentedwards1099
      @vincentedwards1099 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Kolb nice clout chase

    • @u121386
      @u121386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vincentedwards1099 Buddy, I posted this 6 months ago right at the time when he died. Also millions of people have posted comments paying their respects to a fallen hero. So stop labeling everyone as a “clout chaser” when really most of us were just remembering the legacy of one of the greatest basketball players ever. You want to point out the real clout chasers on the internet? How about the people who beg for likes or the people who post comments that contradict popular opinion specifically for the purpose of pissing people off...

  • @warewolf1231
    @warewolf1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    And that’s why Ray Allen was called “Jesus Shuttleworth”

  • @luisguillermojg
    @luisguillermojg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:11 "This Beef History would be a whole movie"
    Wouldn't you know it, it is now.

  • @jbrumundsmith
    @jbrumundsmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Glad you mentioned the notoriously lopsided officiating.

  • @pittland44
    @pittland44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There are two what if's with Ray Allen that I've always wondered about. The first is what would have happened had the Timberwolves (who drafted Ray) not traded him for Marbury and he had teamed up with KG in Minnesota? What kind of tandem would Ray ray and the Big Ticket have formed? The second is this, the Bucks acquire Ray, but in 1998 they don't trade Dirk for Traylor and instead hang on to the young German phenom. What would that have been like? Would we have seen the Bucks turn into a perrenial contender with Robinson, Cassel, Ray and Dirk?

    • @GuntherBovine
      @GuntherBovine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah man could you imagine a team with ray allen and kevin garnett on it. that would be truly something. get an elite wing around those two and you'd probably win like 66 games and the championship

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GuntherBovine I figure the Wolves still draft Wally and acquire Chauncey Billups and that's the core for them for the better part of a decade.

  • @PastTense
    @PastTense 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I miss ray ray. I miss having a team here in Seattle

    • @bravetitangrizzly
      @bravetitangrizzly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scooba I'm rooting for you guys to get it back. It's the most obvious move ever. Get rid of one the California teams I don't think anyone one notice

    • @thatguynamedluke7207
      @thatguynamedluke7207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Roy I’m only 14 but I miss having an nba team in Baltimore even though I’m living in VA, but I used to live in Maryland

  • @BklynE12
    @BklynE12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE the videos SB nation...keep it up..always learn something I didn't know

  • @ScrubDusters
    @ScrubDusters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I Remember watching the playoffs live in 07 or 08 actually im pretty sure when ray hit 8 consecutive threes with Kobe guarding him for a majority if not all the shots

    • @HvV_FilmRoom
      @HvV_FilmRoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fisher was guarding him. Kobe was on Rondo. You're either senile or "wish remembering."

    • @owenbelci2644
      @owenbelci2644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HvV_FilmRoom someone's a Kobe head 🤡 dude is maybe #9 all time calm down

    • @HvV_FilmRoom
      @HvV_FilmRoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@owenbelci2644 Lol stop acting like a child. What I stated was factual. Unless you're able to refute it, move along.

    • @stephcurrytheg.o.a.t
      @stephcurrytheg.o.a.t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@owenbelci2644 he was being guarded by Fisher majority of the time so Kobe wouldn't have to play defense and could just sag off on Rondo, but Kobe was on Ray for a few of them. I remember that one where Ray opened his wide open and calling for the ball then just dropped one on Kobe

    • @cerealissoup84
      @cerealissoup84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HvV_FilmRoom or maybe he just... remembered incorrectly? It was a decade and a half ago lol

  • @jacobhenry5554
    @jacobhenry5554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +774

    "Kobe needs 2.5 good players to contend."
    *Joins Boston Celtics with prime KG, Paul Pierce, and Rondo*
    *Joins Miami Heat with prime Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh*

    • @jaymoney6233
      @jaymoney6233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Lol Ikr

    • @jackmuslovski3041
      @jackmuslovski3041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +352

      Ray never said that he didn’t though, he was talking about Kobe not himself, or he would have also been selfish and demanded a trade

    • @iii-ei5cv
      @iii-ei5cv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I don't think this was ever about who was better. I think Allen might have been sore about the way Kobe showed him up in a preseason game, and let everyone know that Kobe just felt that he had to prove a point that he didn't need Shaq or anyone else.
      Later in the season Allen even entertained the idea of going to the Lakers. Why wouldn't you? They had Kobe... and I'm sure Allen felt that he had Kobe figured out well-enough that they could have been a good team.

    • @roscoedash6673
      @roscoedash6673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Lol yea and it's also like who else DOESN'T need 2 other good players to win? Thanks captain obvious!

    • @bellajen9997
      @bellajen9997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      That doest change the fact that ray was right

  • @VGHSyntheticOrchestra
    @VGHSyntheticOrchestra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Next you will say 'I was only pretending to want to be traded'!"

  • @marioooletsgoooo
    @marioooletsgoooo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In the future, there's going to have to be a video about Westbrook's beef with Joel Embiid

  • @oaxaca911
    @oaxaca911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My two favorite players. Thank you for this

  • @ryanyoung3895
    @ryanyoung3895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kobe bryant is an absolute legend and his competitiveness was savage. I have so much love for that man.

    • @daniellee3275
      @daniellee3275 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much love for a rapist? Weird.

  • @antwanlocke119
    @antwanlocke119 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Kobe is my favorite player🙆

  • @jeffreyjoseph2737
    @jeffreyjoseph2737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Yeah...his teammates were awesome 06-07.
    He should've passed to them more often and been best friends with smush parker who had a great career after...

    • @aydobo
      @aydobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was boys with Lamar and butler. Smush Parker is just salty kobe didn't like him

  • @MrDJAS-ip2yw
    @MrDJAS-ip2yw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    This is actually a real good series you got going on. Although it's not....... Pretty Good
    I'm sorry, I just couldn't help it

    • @escapism7716
      @escapism7716 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. DJAS i

    • @erockstoenescu6171
      @erockstoenescu6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don’t get it

    • @erockstoenescu6171
      @erockstoenescu6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dasheem Worlwy - wtf?

    • @iainwalsh
      @iainwalsh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. DJAS I guess I’m dumb I don’t get it

    • @incrapable
      @incrapable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MR. DJAS
      Did the Greek Freak tell you that one?

  • @K9Saint
    @K9Saint 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this video! Well done! I hope Kobe and Ray see it. I would love to see their reactions and opinions on it.

  • @cristianroy21
    @cristianroy21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how in depth all your videos get

  • @hideri87
    @hideri87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Ray Allen probably has absolutely nothing against him now

  • @panthergawwwddd5887
    @panthergawwwddd5887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    RIP Kobe and Gianna. That voicemail he left Ray Allen is legendary and his hunger for victory is even more so. We miss you, and we thank you.

  • @O44-t1x
    @O44-t1x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Who does not need that 2.5 good players? C mon now..

    • @SinaSoh
      @SinaSoh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      OG Kırkiki dirk

    • @jessealexander9852
      @jessealexander9852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      OG Kırkiki you must of started watching basketball recently. Dirk did it last

    • @jessealexander9852
      @jessealexander9852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SinaSoh that's what I'm saying! But it must be a new generation of basketball fans .. How can anyone forget Dirk

    • @O44-t1x
      @O44-t1x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, Tyson Chandler= 2.0, with Jason terry it can be 2.5

    • @JaysonT975
      @JaysonT975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      sorry that mavs deep was deep and played great defence, everyone needs good players period

  • @Mr._.Max4444
    @Mr._.Max4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video like the editing the timing it was not annoying. Liked the video. Good work

  • @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
    @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still hard to believe kobe's gone... rip to him and his daughter

  • @NorCaLove1
    @NorCaLove1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Seems more like common sense than a prophecy

    • @ky5059
      @ky5059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, cause people back then thought kobe selfishness could win him a ring

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's common sense in hindsight

    • @davidwasneverthere9301
      @davidwasneverthere9301 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Common sense is not common

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its called perception.

  • @ritvikdutta4824
    @ritvikdutta4824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That missed preseason game is a tragedy

  • @isaiahdawson477
    @isaiahdawson477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Watching this after Kobe's unfortunate passing

  • @raulfigueroa2552
    @raulfigueroa2552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super surprised you haven’t done Shaq vs Kobe. I would LOVE to see it

  • @zachsessions6261
    @zachsessions6261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk if you guys still read comments like these on old videos, but you struck gold with the idea for Shaq Kobe beef history- I’d love to see it

  • @ralavi
    @ralavi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Brilliant video

  • @octoberlife
    @octoberlife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP to one of the greatest lakers ever, the world misses you Kobe

    • @frankxxxmullerxxx6734
      @frankxxxmullerxxx6734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The greatest laker rip kobe

    • @imstuckstepbro3229
      @imstuckstepbro3229 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about magic Kareem

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imstuckstepbro3229 Kobe was better than Magic, Kareem didn't spend his whole career in LA

    • @daniellee3275
      @daniellee3275 ปีที่แล้ว

      His rape game was smooth as butter

    • @Someone-hi1nt
      @Someone-hi1nt ปีที่แล้ว

      2nd greatest laker after magic

  • @riverofcustard5027
    @riverofcustard5027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A game with Ray Allen scoring 7 3-pointers in that era is really great. A player like Ray averaged 4 attempted 3's per game. In the nba today they shoot like 19 to get those 7.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still watching 💪💪💪 March 3, 2022

  • @one7deep7savage7
    @one7deep7savage7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a life long Sonics fan and Kobe fan I love watching videos like this

  • @lucasolson9897
    @lucasolson9897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Can’t believe Kobe’s gone . . . smh

  • @rhen4short
    @rhen4short 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:10 Oh I'd love to see this episode.

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin1265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I dond't think it's prophecy as much as it is psychology. Ray Allen is a smart guy, and he knows any ego driven superstar won't be satisfied without winning championships.
    Kobe never said he didn't want talented people around him, Ray Allen put that out there. Kobe always wanted good teammates. Let's remember that his frustration with Shaq was that Shaq didn't have the same dedication to practice and exercise that Kobe had, and that Kobe was tired of Shaq showing up to training overweight. Also other things, but his main gripe with teammates was when they wouldn't commit themselves to the game.
    So Kobe wanted players that had his hunger. Saying that a great player will want to be on a team that is competitive is like predicting a good filmmaker will want a cast that can properly act. It's not a prediction, it's just human psychology.

  • @nashfrmbrmptn
    @nashfrmbrmptn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well put together

  • @caml1720
    @caml1720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    secret base needs to do a comparison between garnett's role in uncut gems and allen's in he got game

  • @rahim4411
    @rahim4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lets hear about the Kobe vs Allen Iverson Beef!

  • @cedricasdfghjkl9151
    @cedricasdfghjkl9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this video like 2 hours before Kobe had that helicopter crash. RIP Kobe.

  • @emudibo
    @emudibo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that Dikembe Mutombo expression at 0:56 killed me

  • @SLAMSulek
    @SLAMSulek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are beautifully made

  • @spikedezzy7671
    @spikedezzy7671 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well versed videos.. thank you for the entertainment and informative videos.. you should get paid

  • @ThePurpleyellowfan
    @ThePurpleyellowfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Not much of a prediction.
    _____ needs 2.5 good players to win.
    Jordan
    Lebron
    Kobe
    08 celtics
    Everyone

    • @pureloveofmom
      @pureloveofmom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why 2.5? Its not like you can cut off people and they will be alive.
      (r woosh me now)

    • @igottwopeepees
      @igottwopeepees 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your mom

    • @sdaprince5330
      @sdaprince5330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not 94 shaq

    • @richardthekingransom
      @richardthekingransom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PurpleYellowFan Steph Curry

    • @sebassharass
      @sebassharass 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardthekingransom curry had 3

  • @sergioortega9684
    @sergioortega9684 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seth, really enjoy your 'Beef History' episodes. Thank you.

  • @rainey06au
    @rainey06au 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a good video. Always loved Ray Allen's game, but never had a great deal of interest in Kobe's... but to see this play out so succinctly in this video was fantastic, and I think I admire both players equally now. They had amazing careers and made NBA more memorable then than it is now.

  • @marshallmering
    @marshallmering 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very well done. I'm not knowledgeable on the NBA but I remember Shaq expressing a similar sentiment. I always thought KOBE needed at least 2 good players just like MJ. Its a team sport at the end of the day, not a knock on him just the reality of team sports.

  • @aamirrazak3467
    @aamirrazak3467 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mad respect for both players nice vid btw

  • @luisescasa9522
    @luisescasa9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am VERY surprised that you didn't do a Beef History of Kobe and Shaq. It's like the most popular NBA beef.

    • @ronuy4206
      @ronuy4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there is no need of a video for that. That feud is very publicized, anybody could just simply write a summary out of it.

    • @prestoncarraway6699
      @prestoncarraway6699 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recommend mike korzembas vid on that one. It’s really good

  • @lorenzodecabo3040
    @lorenzodecabo3040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The last time that Milwaukee was in a Conference Final, until last night

    • @baddieminton
      @baddieminton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shhhhhh they got folded but we not gonna talk about it

  • @brandenmiller9536
    @brandenmiller9536 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do the 2008 celtics beef or shaq and kobe beef

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Red Dude I'd love to try some Kobe beef

  • @periankalon5100
    @periankalon5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude your expressions during the beef exposé are hysterical. Make me wish for more baller battle for you to document.
    RIP KB

  • @ziyonbrown6936
    @ziyonbrown6936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this TH-cam channel

  • @chitoim2332
    @chitoim2332 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Beef history (triple h vs. Rock)

    • @dominoslays4286
      @dominoslays4286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Beef History: How Tenderloin is made

    • @coletrickle1775
      @coletrickle1775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's not a beef history, that's a review of a fiction.

    • @NealBones
      @NealBones 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just watch WWE and it will give you the history.

    • @chitoim2332
      @chitoim2332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NealBones nba is like wwe

  • @Maxdouble07
    @Maxdouble07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kobe was truly a legend and lived an amazing life. I still can’t believe we lost him with his precious daughter Gigi. Rest easy🙏🏽.

  • @lockedinnn
    @lockedinnn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve never seen Mutumbo that pissed 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @meyerboris
    @meyerboris 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series, great narrator.

  • @patrickcalvin5272
    @patrickcalvin5272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good story! Could make a movie based on this