Rasheed Wallace's career-long beef with NBA referees was iconic

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  • Rasheed Wallace may have been extremely difficult (and annoying) for NBA referees to officiate, yet it would be insufficient to leave it at that. Wallace overreacted sometimes and complained plenty, but he wasn't merely a whiner.
    Fair or not, Sheed detected, and sought to call out, bias among the NBA's refs. He's far from the only person to suggest that refs get emotional, play favorites, or bring ulterior motives to the court. He is, however, one of the players to make that point on the court. He made it consistently and boldly, and in a way that drew extra ire from the very refs he accused of targeting him.
    In short, this was a crusade that turned a typically-tense relationship into outright beef. While he played, it was Sheed vs. Basically Every Ref. And even in retirement, Wallace is not done fighting that battle.
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  • @SecretBaseSBN
    @SecretBaseSBN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +653

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    • @footballchamp3873
      @footballchamp3873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A bomb shelter?

    • @akauf2282
      @akauf2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      footballchamp 3 Rasheed Wallace’s hideout to study the refs

    • @mario2montano
      @mario2montano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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      @samwert2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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    • @thechef.
      @thechef. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      super excited

  • @johncampbell2845
    @johncampbell2845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4411

    Rasheed shouting "ball don't lie" is so iconic, just feels wrong when anyone else does it

    • @noah_that_bills_fan1613
      @noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea

    • @noah_that_bills_fan1613
      @noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also 69 likes

    • @SlicingDicingGamingENT
      @SlicingDicingGamingENT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Me and my uncle say ball don't lie when we're watching games and someone misses a free throw lol

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Aside when AI does it, literally the actual original player for that phrase being brought in the Nba.

    • @UpsidePotential
      @UpsidePotential 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      he got a tech for saying "ball dont lie" too

  • @ChiseledAdonis
    @ChiseledAdonis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3514

    Legend has it at Sheed's funeral NBA refs will be in attendance to tech him up one last time

    • @masondarden2423
      @masondarden2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      You watch this too dang

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      This is comedic gold. Kudos to u sir 👏

    • @RGTitan901
      @RGTitan901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheOriginalFrankMatthews
      @TheOriginalFrankMatthews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was so funny I forgot to laugh

    • @williamarnett5104
      @williamarnett5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      This man got the Shadow Clone Jutsu showing up in these random videos for real

  • @o7_AP
    @o7_AP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +722

    The most memorable quotes surrounding his career
    “Whack - get out!
    “It’s ugly ass Bill Walton!”
    “Ball don’t lie!”

    • @denistuohy2535
      @denistuohy2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      What about “both teams played haaaarrrrrrrrd”

    • @BoganFromBama
      @BoganFromBama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@denistuohy2535 "...God Bless and goodnight."

    • @NateMcCoy1194
      @NateMcCoy1194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ugly ass Bill Walton

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He said black get out not whack... they got that wrong.. if u have ever played basketball u know they say the color of your jersey then your number on a foul call.. n if U r ejected they will say like red !! You are out! Then look at your number n say it or show it with fingers to the score keeper

    • @sayoriachiri5833
      @sayoriachiri5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "It's ugly ass Bill Walton" I found that funny because Bill Walton was actually kinda handsome

  • @agum9193
    @agum9193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Refs said he was the hardest player to referee because, “he knew the rulebook better than anyone.”
    Sheed’s career is in need of real revisionist history. He was an absolute legend and an extremely smart player.

    • @maxx1mus1041
      @maxx1mus1041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he was no legend

    • @agum9193
      @agum9193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@maxx1mus1041 watch the tape. ball dont lie.

    • @russelljohnson437
      @russelljohnson437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxx1mus1041your on the couch beee quiet pimp

  • @arj5241
    @arj5241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2451

    The defining Rasheed moment is getting ejected for staring at an official

    • @pitakafoa1214
      @pitakafoa1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      "Whack! Get out!" 😂😂😂 his reaction was priceless

    • @uncreative5766
      @uncreative5766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I would love if the NBA would mike refs and players up again.

    • @Manny-nm8dh
      @Manny-nm8dh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It was in the Western Conference finals nonetheless.

    • @nicholasbova9909
      @nicholasbova9909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@pitakafoa1214 Steve Smith's reaction was even funnier

    • @StanStacks
      @StanStacks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      BEAST MODE Joey Crawford is a terrible human being that should’ve never been allowed his reign of terror

  • @sawftmoreslump9820
    @sawftmoreslump9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2980

    Rasheed had a point.. refs are human they have the ability to pick and choose who they pick on

    • @biglordebunnyrabbit627
      @biglordebunnyrabbit627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Ball don’t lie!

    • @uniboy13
      @uniboy13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Wait wait wait, refs are people?

    • @skillswiper
      @skillswiper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Antagonizing the refs all season hurts too

    • @Expletorygoose5
      @Expletorygoose5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      SkillSwiper he may have been antagonizing them but the refs are suppose to be unbiased.

    • @akaspon1
      @akaspon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Expletorygoose5 If you don't want bias, then hire robots...otherwise, what do you expect from human beings.

  • @taylordunekacke4418
    @taylordunekacke4418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    Me in 2000: Wallace is a crybaby!
    Me in 2020: Wallace was right the whole time!

    • @dbag3345
      @dbag3345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      You're whack for thinking that in 2000

    • @dannycomellas
      @dannycomellas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@dbag3345 I thought the same thing. I didn't watch Sheed's games and barely had internet at the time, so it was easier for that narrative to be shaped. Now I still don't believe that Donaghy was/is the only ref on the take.

    • @trainwreckthomas9274
      @trainwreckthomas9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Ball don’t lie

    • @brianbutler7881
      @brianbutler7881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So what does that say about boogie cousins

    • @mattrag4988
      @mattrag4988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Always liked him

  • @pattininja95
    @pattininja95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    "Rasheed implies that the league deliberately swings outcomes so the series runs a full seven games."
    Looking back I can't say he was wrong

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The Players kept trying to tell us something was off..

    • @jankycuz11um88
      @jankycuz11um88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Even into this day the need it to go 7 for more money

    • @DiagonalByte
      @DiagonalByte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Every major sports league does this. Can't change my mind.

    • @accountant3847
      @accountant3847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JustDev lmao

    • @barrybshrekson864
      @barrybshrekson864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Explains 2002

  • @wilbert3842
    @wilbert3842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2127

    Nothing says “there’s not a scandal” like trying to cover it up and blocking the books release

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      At that point they're making Sheed up to be like Alex Jones. If I'm getting that level of bias, I'd punch a zebra so hard he'll forget who's team he's betting for. Props for him for staying "classy."

    • @djbrodymusic
      @djbrodymusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@wojak-sensei6424 "I'd punch a zebra so hard he'll forget who's team he's betting for" what in the hell?

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@djbrodymusic As in the refs. Forget I said anything.

    • @skelly8185
      @skelly8185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that.. and you don't want to give a cheater another opportunity to get rich..

    • @therealmelvin6352
      @therealmelvin6352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Can't be defamation if it's the truth

  • @biglordebunnyrabbit627
    @biglordebunnyrabbit627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1086

    If I don’t hear : “Enter Tim Donaghy”, one time in this vid.Someone is getting a Tech

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You don’t have the power to give techs

    • @KiddsWorldEntertainment
      @KiddsWorldEntertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tora Chan Respect his gangsta

    • @the010og
      @the010og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah Flagrant 2 with a double Tech. He needs to be in this vid

    • @sjbboy1790
      @sjbboy1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    “Ball don’t lie” is easily one of the greatest lines from basketball 😂

  • @msteresa653
    @msteresa653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    "all of them cats are felonious, man"

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2287

    Sheed has a point. Refs are ridiculous and almost trigger happy to call techs. Tim Duncan getting ejected by Joey Crawford for laughing at a joke a teammate said comes to mind instantly.

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Don't think he was laughing at a teammate's joke. I think he was laughing at the repeated bad calls Joey Crawford was making, and after Crawford challenged Tim Duncan to a fight.

    • @gmwdim
      @gmwdim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Or Reggie Evans for high-fiving his teammate Blake Griffin.

    • @veerchasm1
      @veerchasm1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Timmy rules!

    • @Vudoo13
      @Vudoo13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And now, we are in the era of flopping.

    • @MariaAlvarez-ew4rv
      @MariaAlvarez-ew4rv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Or how about the time Joey Crawford ran over a Miami Heat player who was ready to take a 3-point shot in the closing seconds of a 1 point game Game 7 of the 2005 Eastern Conference Finals between the Miami Heat and Detroit Pistons and called the foul against Chauncey Billips (please tell me if I’m wrong cause I remember watching a clip of it but I don’t remember when it happened, if the player Crawford ran over was on the Heat, if the in the closing seconds of a 1 point game, if the player was ready to take a shot, and if the shot was a 3 pointer)

  • @FreeFoodforthePoor
    @FreeFoodforthePoor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1004

    The only beef the NBA refs had with Sheed dealt with when he ruined the point spread on the games they were betting on.

    • @Simeautomatic100
      @Simeautomatic100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      *on the real, that makes me furious!!!*

    • @RGTitan901
      @RGTitan901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Facts

    • @dbag3345
      @dbag3345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ding ding ding

    • @kevkerbster
      @kevkerbster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dam right

    • @sjbboy1790
      @sjbboy1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lmao

  • @KTF0
    @KTF0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Many refs were intimidated Sheed because he had a reputation of knowing practically every rule in the rulebook. I can easily imagine a ref getting a hurt ego, especially if theres a player that knows more than you.

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The MLB equivalent would probably be AJ Pierzynski.

    • @matthewthompson9632
      @matthewthompson9632 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s just insane that shows real passion right there not to just be a good player but to know all the rules of the game and make sure your team never gets cheated on bad calls

  • @ericmarks7648
    @ericmarks7648 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Sheed was a true beauty. Lost in all his wizardry at the T was how insanely skilled he was.

    • @bbryant9455
      @bbryant9455 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously though. A bit ahead of his time imo. 💯

  • @TenThumbsProductions
    @TenThumbsProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3051

    You can't throw out the best player on a team deep in the playoffs because he is looking at you. Refs who make themselves bigger than the game don’t deserve a job.

    • @palaceofwisdom9448
      @palaceofwisdom9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      It's just more Lakers favoritism, same as what happened to the Kings in '02. The league even changed the damn playoff format mid-season to the first round being best of 7 when it looked like they were in trouble (even Charles Barkley called it "The Laker Rule").

    • @AirKangLocker
      @AirKangLocker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Tim Duncan silently likes this comment

    • @jerryboy0422
      @jerryboy0422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol I was like “wait I know that user name..” Im a subscriber of your channel and enjoy the content! Funny to see we have other common interests haha

    • @TenThumbsProductions
      @TenThumbsProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      DreamArena thanks for the sub! I love beef history and I grew up in Michigan. Detroit vs Everybody.

    • @heeroheero8844
      @heeroheero8844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sheed should have kept it together, his lack of discipline and his outburst hurt his team lmao

  • @lillaxeddysgamingchannel8737
    @lillaxeddysgamingchannel8737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    41 Technical fouls in the 2000-2001 NBA season, 317 Technical fouls in his NBA career

    • @GregoryFord98
      @GregoryFord98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Most unbreakable record

    • @beramtaib4713
      @beramtaib4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Legend

    • @macdreezy5410
      @macdreezy5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Those are Barry Bonds numbers, I believe to be unbreakable

    • @meharinationsportspodcast2582
      @meharinationsportspodcast2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You won't believe this, but Wallace is not the career leader of technical fouls. That belongs to Karl Malone with 332 technical fouls. Malone was a player who got his calls, but always complained frequently on referees.

    • @macdreezy5410
      @macdreezy5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Say wha???

  • @_Maxten
    @_Maxten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    sheed: yall just love to single me out bc of favoritism
    refs: u buggin
    refs while facing charges: ok u right

  • @ShevStaxBeats
    @ShevStaxBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    He was right about a lot of what he said. The league is about making money so ratings come first

    • @Jake-zu2hl
      @Jake-zu2hl ปีที่แล้ว

      If the league was ever proven rigged they would lose billions of dollars. It’s stupid of them to risk that. It’s stupid to think they would risk that.

  • @ask5118
    @ask5118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    This guy was right to call out everything officials did to him. Screw the NBA

    • @cdf360
      @cdf360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      cpk1994 oh please, the NBA were rigging games left and right throughout the 2000s. You’re a clown if you don’t believe they were. It’s so transparent. Sheed was right, and stern was wrong, and that’s all there is to it.

    • @nickc247
      @nickc247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @cpk1994 Yup, a straight whiner.

    • @cdf360
      @cdf360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      cpk1994 He fought the referees out of principle. You really think Tim Donaghy was an isolated incident of referee corruption? Get real

    • @mattla6454
      @mattla6454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @cpk1994 Wow i luv it how u reproduce the ideology u get told, so you never start thinkink critical...just keep growin up to live the damn boring live the old boys expect you to....
      ...maybe thats why Jesus wanted us to become like childs againn??(:

    • @NotaPizzaGRL
      @NotaPizzaGRL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattla6454 cpk1994 eats from the trashcan of ideology

  • @GerritCoulter
    @GerritCoulter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Basketball is the easiest game in the world for referees to fix. You can add 10, 15, or even 20 points on to one team's score just by calling more fouls.

  • @PatrickMHoey
    @PatrickMHoey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Wallace was the most “Detroit” player in the league-and he brought the Pistons’ Bad Boy image back. Dude was a monster! 💪🏻

    • @Dollaz2Donuts
      @Dollaz2Donuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Him and Ben Wallace were the Laimbeer/Mahorn of their day. Miss those teams.....

  • @stkrd1467
    @stkrd1467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sheed's not wrong, look at Wade's free throw attempts compared to the entire Mavs team in 06 Finals

  • @wzac1234
    @wzac1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1222

    You guys gotta do a beef history between the browns and winning

    • @Crlongboarder
      @Crlongboarder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Ooooof

    • @anthonysimancas2652
      @anthonysimancas2652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They kind of did..but it was the browns and LOSING that was the focal point of the video highlighted by the 0-16 parade 🤣

    • @macdreezy5410
      @macdreezy5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Too soon

    • @denniskasiyan4938
      @denniskasiyan4938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pain

    • @MrAndrewaziz
      @MrAndrewaziz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh what the Browns do to you? 😂

  • @MrPlow-jc4cr
    @MrPlow-jc4cr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    The David Stern officiating era was...interesting, to say the least

    • @AirKangLocker
      @AirKangLocker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The hacksawed rigged era

    • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
      @J.A.Z-TheMortal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Super rigged era. LAL should have won only 2 out of the 5 titles they won on that era.

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Just watched the mavs/blazers game and I can confirm the officiating is still "interesting "

    • @kennyhill9238
      @kennyhill9238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Miami in 2006 and in 2012 also Game 7 2010

    • @kevkerbster
      @kevkerbster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rigged

  • @macdreezy5410
    @macdreezy5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Fact: Dusty Rhodes was a booker for the NBA

    • @vidishkarkera2630
      @vidishkarkera2630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Dream is alwath gonna book a dusthy finish dadthy.

  • @alittletooloose3087
    @alittletooloose3087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    We still love sheed in portland, what a legend, he's absolutely right about the NBA, anyone who watches a small market team can see it.

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly...As a Hornets and Bulls fan....We all see it...

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Bigedub101... 🤦 Except Chicago's not a small market lol.

  • @shukthapa8607
    @shukthapa8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    “BALL DONT LIE”

    • @guru_basketball_kiero
      @guru_basketball_kiero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @slowpeelz
      @slowpeelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahah I used to love that

    • @rahe2141
      @rahe2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im afraid that's gonna be a tech buddy

    • @SnailSlugSlut
      @SnailSlugSlut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      4:54 did he say “whack”? lol

  • @blovelady1
    @blovelady1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Have an acquaintance who is an NBA ref.. he told me the problem with Sheed was, when you go back to the tape he was almost always right. Crazy high basketball IQ

    • @jaredpatterson1701
      @jaredpatterson1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Especially on those Pistons teams

    • @Funktaro5
      @Funktaro5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was also a bit ahead of his time as a stretch 4, providing spacing that the Pistons desperately needed when Ben Wallace was on the court. People back then complained about him spending so much time on the 3-point line when he could take it inside and score there, but his ability to stretch the floor was vital to the Pistons offense.
      Nowadays it's considered almost vital that a 4 can shoot from range (doubly so if your center can't). Back then, not so much.

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it but u can't go back on your word cause they then feel inferior

  • @ZackZ-mg9uq
    @ZackZ-mg9uq ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He was the missing piece that brought the Pistons the Ring in 04 and I'll never forget it. 1 of the best starting 5 lineups in History

    • @Adri_Unsung
      @Adri_Unsung 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best Five Alive ❤️❤️❤️

  • @MrRockmusicjunkie
    @MrRockmusicjunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I remember as a kid watching Pistons games and every time the whistle blew you just knew he was about to argue

  • @dontmindme5879
    @dontmindme5879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Damn so now we ABSOLUTELY need Tim Duncan vs Joey Crawford

    • @palaceofwisdom9448
      @palaceofwisdom9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That remains the most ridiculous public act by an official in the history of sports. I saw that when it happened and nearly fell out of my chair. Of all people, a ref challenged the most mild mannered player in the league to a fight.

    • @nathaniellevesque2782
      @nathaniellevesque2782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      YOU DARE LAUGH?!?!?!?!?
      In all seriousness, imagine if I were to tell you the one person ejected for laughing on the bench and later challenged to a fight by a referee for it was Tim Duncan. Literally the last person on earth to be considered a ref-baiter.

    • @chulyeom2366
      @chulyeom2366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nothing says “there’s not a scandal” like trying to cover it up and blocking the books release

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palaceofwisdom9448 Tony Parker's reaction was my reaction.

    • @cantstopbeeboo2055
      @cantstopbeeboo2055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't wanna argue NOBODY........but Tim Duncan deserves whatever bad he gets. Everybody on the planet that watches the NBA and studies the officials "KNOWS", 2005 was Rasheed's 2nd ring in a row with the Pistons. Buttttttt if you were old enough to see the games "Live and kept up with the media" = They screwed Rasheed over, really bad...and the *darling of the NBA at the time was Timothy* - That's why he got a free ring and *he knew* he didn't deserve it, at all.
      *If you have 0 clue, upon what I'm talking about....don't say nothing....if you know what I'm talking about....then please feel free to add on* (awaiting the insults and arguments for stating FACTS)

  • @footballchamp3873
    @footballchamp3873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Answer this: Who doesn't have beef with certain referees

    • @im_waffles2920
      @im_waffles2920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kawhi?

    • @mcray0309
      @mcray0309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You

    • @Sizdothyx
      @Sizdothyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm not biased. I hate all NBA referees. Can't name one game where they didn't have two big-time screw-ups/no-calls in the last 8 years of basketball.

    • @Trey-Jae
      @Trey-Jae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mike Conley

    • @ikefromsmashbros9237
      @ikefromsmashbros9237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      [Insert player who gets infinite free passes here]

  • @1TotalJabroni
    @1TotalJabroni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Ball don't lie!"
    -Sheed

  • @adamkelly4252
    @adamkelly4252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Rasheed was a true talent. He was tall, athletic, and a versatile shooter. He could play in the post and drop it from the perimeter. He was a pure passer and a team oriented player. The guy was always looking to help his teammates play at a higher level, and I loved watching him play. I'm a Lakers fan, but it really pissed me off when Wallace was tossed in game 1 of the 2000 playoffs....

  • @bab4380
    @bab4380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Man we need more guys like Sheed right now in the league.

    • @tylito4764
      @tylito4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Draymond.. but everyone wants to hate em, careful what you ask for

    • @specialwhenlit8435
      @specialwhenlit8435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @Ty Lito
      Except Dray is exactly the kind of player Sheed was constantly pointing out: Hyper aggressive dude on a marquee team getting away with murder

    • @thejmc4074
      @thejmc4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We need a lot of players from the day in the shitty league now.

    • @gregb7337
      @gregb7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SpecialWhenLit but draymond isn’t on sheeds level of talent that’s the difference

    • @itsallenwow
      @itsallenwow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Getting away with murder? Calm down if you think draymond is anywhere near the level of Wallace I don’t think you’ve been watching closely either team

  • @torachan23
    @torachan23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I think it’s insane that you get fined for criticizing the work of an integral figure of the game.
    Imagine getting fined for criticizing a chef for overcooking your food.

    • @simpleanswer8954
      @simpleanswer8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      That aint even close to the same. The fans can criticize the refs as much as they want. They're the ones paying for tickets and merch. They're the ones that are the 'customer'. Wallace is an employee. A waiter that criticizes the chef would get in trouble. The customer doesn't. You just need to realize the players aren't the customers - they're employees.

    • @don_5283
      @don_5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@simpleanswer8954 Perhaps... But to me this looks a lot more like middle management screwed something up, and an employee tells the customer that it was middle management's screw-up, and then middle management spends the rest of that employee's career jacking with his schedule, playing chickenshit games with him, writing him up for tiny technicalities, taking any excuse to lean on him... With upper management's tacit approval.
      Both the league's and the referees' reluctance to directly confront the empirical evidence of undeniable biases which jeopardize the integrity of the game is a terrible look. I really don't care about Rasheed Wallace, and certainly there are ways he undermined his own standing that were just unnecessary, but that doesn't in any way soften the fact that the league and the officials have consistently been out of line, and seem reluctant to do anything meaningful to address those problems.

    • @simpleanswer8954
      @simpleanswer8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@don_5283 That sounds about right to me. I was just saying you have to adapt it to see this as an employee being punished for complaining about another employee to the customers.

    • @NeverMakingVideos
      @NeverMakingVideos ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why I like rugby's approach. Refs are held to a high standard, can have any judgement checked instantly on cameras, wear a mic and bodycam (so the crowd hears them talk with players) and are expected to explain any "controversial" reasoning on the spot if a captain asks. On the other hand, a ref's judgements are final. Players can and do get heavily penalised for disrespecting both officials and players, or a warning if it's not too serious. Just as players get penalised for bad conduct, so do referees - with severe fines if they are thought to be influencing outcomes.
      As a result, I can't think of any other sport with a similar level of respect that is shown to officials, let alone opposing teams. Nigel Owens was nominated for UK sports personality of the year several times as a referee, might have even won it. One of the most dangerous contact sports you can play, and you can be sent off the pitch for bad behaviour. Such a beautiful contrast

  • @nathanonwuka7928
    @nathanonwuka7928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Current relationship between refs and players:
    Ref: Go to the office
    Player: what did I do!

  • @venod3134
    @venod3134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Sheed is right and always has been. Big business is corrupt, it's just a thing even in sports.

  • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
    @SuperSaiyanGuyver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Ever see "Forget Paris" where Billy Crystal loses his mind and ejects everybody? That's Sheed's entire career.

    • @keithharper1470
      @keithharper1470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      KAJ: "You can't eject me this is my farewell game"
      BC: "Let me be the first to say farewell"

    • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
      @SuperSaiyanGuyver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Arizona Fire Ent And Kareem's parents!

  • @loganmoreau7569
    @loganmoreau7569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Let’s be honest, he’s not alone, everyone has beef with the refs

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True, but how many have 317 career techs? His 41 in one season (2000-2001) may never be broken, because these days, one gets suspended after the 16th tech in a season.

    • @jeanmacalino8143
      @jeanmacalino8143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AEMoreira81 yeah. so stay in yo lane, logan. keep watching that football thing sport.

    • @loganmoreau7569
      @loganmoreau7569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      daigul trust me, players vs refs in football ain’t much better, it’s arguably worse

    • @keithharper1470
      @keithharper1470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Everyone on Donaghy's list has had problems with refs for their entire carrer that's why I will never believe he's the only one to fix games just the only one to get caught

    • @RafsanS15
      @RafsanS15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AEMoreira81 Chuck and Karl Malone 329 and 332 techs

  • @ABock4
    @ABock4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I knew that Rasheed made saying “ball don’t lie!” famous, but I didn’t realize he was the first one to do it. You learn something new everyday. Gotta love Sheed!

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Whack! Get out!" is right up there with "Number 99 of the defense, he's giving him the business down there" for supremely technical (as it were) referee explanations.

  • @_Yosho_
    @_Yosho_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Rasheed: *passes to a teammate*
    Refs: Foul, you threw it at him.

  • @torachan23
    @torachan23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    There should be an end season award for most technical fouls named after Rasheed Wallace

    • @5at5una
      @5at5una 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      like shaqtin a fool?
      well thats not an award to be proud of

  • @mrmacross
    @mrmacross 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When it comes to NBA player and ref interactions, there are two big factors:
    1) Players are so empowered/entitled they complain about everything. Bad calls are frustrating, but concentrate on playing the game and let it go. Complaining isn't going to change the call.
    2) Refs can be so insecure and drunk with power. If you treat the players like children, don't be surprised if they respond to you like children. The NBA is right to back the refs, but because the NBA is going to back the refs, some of them think they can instigate or escalate tension with players.

    • @satua13
      @satua13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this, so much of this, both parties need to take their responsibility to the game more seriously. Best compliment a ref can receive is "Wait you reffed that game, I didn't even notice you" and a player's should be "Gee you were good", not "Gee you gave the ref what he deserved didn't you? Shame you only got to play 10 minutes and we lost"

    • @HAL-lz7jj
      @HAL-lz7jj ปีที่แล้ว

      When it comes to NBA player/ref interaction the player has absolutely no power. And with few well placed / not called foul (or even travel or any call} in right moment you turn the tide of entire game and potentially series. It was and will forver be fixed.

  • @cantstopbeeboo2055
    @cantstopbeeboo2055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You also didn't mention that in 2005, Rasheed was so hated by the Refs = He had to enter the game in the 2nd Half in Post Season Games. Meaning, the coach at the time thought it would've been in Rasheed's best interest to NOT play the 1st Half or he may have fouled out/or tossed.

  • @gansmith
    @gansmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Wallace was a 80's tough defender playing in a much softer defensive league. I miss him.

  • @TheVampyroteuthis
    @TheVampyroteuthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You could sense the tension between sheed and the refs just from watching on tv

    • @trent_k
      @trent_k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      karedeko I can’t believe how mentally vulnerable some NBA refs are. “I told him 3 times to stop staring at me” I’d much rather have a player staring at me than talking trash or getting all up in my face, that ref needs to get over himself

    • @kenb.1096
      @kenb.1096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Trent Koberna it’s about establishing some groundrules. If I were a ref I wouldn’t let a player try to intimidate me

    • @trent_k
      @trent_k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kenb.1096 So you are so weak that someone staring at you will intimidate you into changing how you ref a game? If a player stared at me I would ignore it and keep doing my job because they are not threatening me in any way.

  • @LoganNagol
    @LoganNagol ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:04 damn that was cool ngl

  • @MrSonofabitch00
    @MrSonofabitch00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "A lot of them cats are felonious" is one of the best quotes in history

  • @contato424
    @contato424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Rasheed Wallace: breathes
    Referee: Technical foul! Unsportsmanlike conduct!

  • @Augfordpdoggie
    @Augfordpdoggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    this is just like society. people want you to be blindly obedient, if you're not, if you stand up for what you believe in, they call you a trouble maker

  • @giovannoyan3568
    @giovannoyan3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Respect to that man, the NBA sometimes really does have those disgusting biased calls that they trynna make everyone forget

  • @jihod1
    @jihod1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He was part one of three series that I know for a fact was fixed, 2000 Western conference finals and the 2020 Western Conference Finals. Whenever Kobe and Shaq ran up against better teams the refs bailed them out, it was real shameful to watch. Shaq should have 1 ring because in 2006 they did it again with the Mavs /Heat when the refs made Dwade into MJ junior.

  • @BattlePants321
    @BattlePants321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video on the origin of the famous basketball phrase "The basketball will not go in the hoop if it knows the ref misused their whistle"

  • @akauf2282
    @akauf2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Rasheed has a Secret Base to beef against them

  • @clydeellis6569
    @clydeellis6569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    another amazing video! Thanks for making 2020 somewhat enjoyable

  • @jerryjanik480
    @jerryjanik480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Pistons fan Rasheed Wallace was one of my favorite players of all time besides Dennis Rodman but from those teams that won the championship Eastern Conference Finals in the NBA Championship Rashid Wallace Ben Wallace I love those guys two Hall of Famers in great defensive players

  • @jasoncarpenter4129
    @jasoncarpenter4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    4:54 same thing happened to me. Away game went for a layup just to get body checked to the floor. I was walking back to play defense because a dead ball happened staring in disbelief when this old ass ref tossed me for "intimidating him" the ref was 6 foot 5 and I was 5 foot 9 at best.

    • @contato424
      @contato424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Jason Carpenter that’s nuts! I’ve had similar things happen too, the refs when I was in like middle school were all old dudes who had nothing else to do.

    • @troke3207
      @troke3207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oof

    • @tmstudios2713
      @tmstudios2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got called for a foul by barely grazing this dude’s leg with my pinky 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @contato424
      @contato424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TM Studios wow lol.

    • @alex31794
      @alex31794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      got punched while playing defense and had the foul called on me

  • @bolbolsburner6505
    @bolbolsburner6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    These videos make my day they make me so hyped when they come out. Thank you

  • @pearleycunningham
    @pearleycunningham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the beef history I’ve been waiting for

  • @akachiazubuike1109
    @akachiazubuike1109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The tone, the music.... well done guys. Works of art.

  • @paligula.
    @paligula. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    hes the perfect power forward for todays nba

    • @palaceofwisdom9448
      @palaceofwisdom9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He used to get criticized for taking 3's rather than posting up more, maybe he was just ahead of his time.

    • @trainwreckthomas9274
      @trainwreckthomas9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@palaceofwisdom9448 agreed💯

  • @tubingforever
    @tubingforever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never watched basketball but you're videos have me hooked!

  • @March_for_Aries
    @March_for_Aries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kinda sad we didn't get to see "Both teams played hard", Iconic moment from Rasheed.

  • @sawftmoreslump9820
    @sawftmoreslump9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    " whack- get out!"

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s black get out not whack .... that makes zero sense

    • @beelzedog
      @beelzedog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mansonlamps I know it’s six days after but you’re definitely right lol

  • @nintendonchill
    @nintendonchill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Refs were cheating. Kings and Blazers were cheated out of Finals. Who doesn't have beef with that?

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Curly Que they missed because they let lakers play football n gave lakers every call n let them shoot free throws until game was tied

  • @benestrada5589
    @benestrada5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    The NBA is rigged, Sheed was right, they put the teams in the finals that will pull the most ratings. Never forget the 2002 Western Conference Finals.

    • @BBTHEBEAST
      @BBTHEBEAST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cause the NBA wanted to see orlando/la instead of Cleveland/LA. Y’all sound dumb

    • @joshuaharris5032
      @joshuaharris5032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scoe3x that series is an exception and after the tim donaghy era. NBA officiating in the early 90s and 00s was rigged asf there’s no denying that.

    • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
      @J.A.Z-TheMortal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@BBTHEBEAST Those are exceptions. Those are series so lopsided that refs and the league could not affect the outcome. Series like 2003 LAL vs Spurs. 2004 LAL vs Detroit, 2009 Orlando vs Cleveland, 2011 LAL vs Mavs. All series in which Stern's favorite team lost, by landslides. Now compare that to all the close series that happen to have the bigger market team winning games by 1 or 2 points or possessions. In fact, this very video reminded me that Portland also had a huge disparity in free throws on game 7 of the western conference finals. Not a coincidence that most close games where won by the team that is most popular and generates more revenue. When the underdog won, they had to win by a landslide, to not give Stern, Donagy and the rest of th refs a chance.

    • @lucashadiningtyas9699
      @lucashadiningtyas9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dont forget 2006 Heat v Mavs

    • @benestrada5589
      @benestrada5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucashadiningtyas9699 you right

  • @lucasmelee
    @lucasmelee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant believe you guys actually did it! bless

  • @hunterking6033
    @hunterking6033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stare downs are absolutely an intimidation tactic. Why the hell do you think guys stare each other down after dunking, blocking shots, big hits, TD catches, Home Runs? It’s an intimidation tactic.

    • @-HughJass-
      @-HughJass- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its what people do before they start throwing punches. Really dumb narrative in this video. You can tell this clown has never been in a fight in his life.

  • @marymba3859
    @marymba3859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I Feel Like We All Wait To Long For
    Rasheed’s Episode:

  • @julianbell9161
    @julianbell9161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta say, “Whack! Get out!” was not the call I was expecting

  • @trippintripathi
    @trippintripathi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I need violence, Rasheed Wallace, I'm okay with a Tech/ TEC"

  • @markjones952
    @markjones952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.

    • @YaowBucketHEAD
      @YaowBucketHEAD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sigh....
      *SOMETHING SOMETHING MOSES MALONE.*

  • @datguitarplayer1656
    @datguitarplayer1656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I believe Rasheed and I think that it's pretty obvious the further from his career we get the more and more his statements are proven right- the more he is vindicated.

  • @crimsoncola
    @crimsoncola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I had no idea! Great video my dude. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @sleepful1917
    @sleepful1917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i listen to this basketball podcast called pod dont lie and now the name makes sense lmao, i love it

  • @Encyclopedia_Brown97
    @Encyclopedia_Brown97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love seeing a basketball video in my feed, bc I know it means I’ll either be hearing Seth or Clara

  • @AlMarksman
    @AlMarksman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my favorite players of all time

  • @horvaton
    @horvaton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Them Blazers' font was used as the theme for this...Brilliant!

  • @lucashadiningtyas9699
    @lucashadiningtyas9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2002 WCF Kings v Lakers and 2006 Finals Heat v Mavs, enough said.

  • @palaceofwisdom9448
    @palaceofwisdom9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most infamous one for me was a game where Sheed was walking off the court at halftime and a ref blatantly baited him into saying something and immediately ejected him.

  • @AlveinFencer
    @AlveinFencer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "He went to the bench feeling heated, down from his post up high.
    Over the boos of the crowd and the whistles, they all heard his famous cry:
    You can get two shots when a soft knight flops, but a ball will never lie.
    Poor Sheed can plead, while the refs play deaf, that a ball will never lie~."

  • @the010og
    @the010og 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought about this video like 4 days ago. Thank you so much for making it guys. I don't like getting mushy, but frfr it means a lot lol

  • @CzarsSalad
    @CzarsSalad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The Lakers 3-peat in the early 2000's was helped primarily by the refs

    • @samisami9114
      @samisami9114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      which makes kobe and shaq look even worse

    • @samisami9114
      @samisami9114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Negronigggablackman it’s does because then they both would have 2 less rings

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep it was blatant.. like 2010 and the heat run with lebron no wade in 2012 n 2013 and heat in 2006

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't say primarily because that would mean that the main reason for their success were due to referee interference. The refs definitely had their hands on the 2002 WCF.

    • @andrewmartinez9992
      @andrewmartinez9992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Refs always favor the lakers even today

  • @ericsilver9401
    @ericsilver9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"

  • @bizzles44
    @bizzles44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite Rasheed Wallace moment is when he got thrown out for just glaring at a ref 😂

  • @peterboylan8560
    @peterboylan8560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing, this video was great and then I found out this guy coined one of my favourite phrases ever. Brilliant stuff

  • @uriahbrandon6917
    @uriahbrandon6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suggested this 2 years ago.... glad to see yall actually read comments!

  • @mckoolaid1567
    @mckoolaid1567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Off topic but 2k should add bad all time teams like the 7-59 Bobcats

  • @ryanscott4038
    @ryanscott4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Never knew this guy was responsible for every annoying youth basketball player’s favorite catchphrase

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because it was Allen Iverson instead of Sheed.

  • @pjtiongco
    @pjtiongco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved sheed ever since his days in North Carolina he will always be my fave big man

  • @tmack11
    @tmack11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favorite players to watch

  • @garyfield3270
    @garyfield3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The NBA needs to better control the officials. This is still an issue today

  • @paulevans6066
    @paulevans6066 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sheed is the type teammate I want lol

    • @jdapaul1351
      @jdapaul1351 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much "love 'em if they're on your team, hate 'em if they're the opponent"

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a Lakers fan, thank you referees you guys are the most honourable people in the world.

  • @mahmoodal-imam2892
    @mahmoodal-imam2892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the interesting subject. It really open the eyes on an important aspect of NBA referees.