When I was a boy scout in the 1960s I used to carry a scout knife with a six inch blade in a leather holder on my right hip. It was standard uniform for a scout then and was put to good use when we went camping-though it was in full sight even when we walked around the streets. I don't think it occurred to any of us that it might be used as a weapon against a human being. How times change.
If someone has the inclination to stab another human then they are going to find a way to hurt them regardless if they can carry a large knife in public. Most every day objects can be used as deady weapons
Pretty bad how things are now. I can't even have a "weapon" on me at work. I don't know how my employer defines a "weapon", so I can't really even take a small pocket knife with me to work, they freaked out when I took a box cutter in that was of a safer design than the ones we're given at work! Weapons / tools don't kill people, people do!
@@TianarTruegard holy crap that sucks. I used to be in the be same boat. I currently carry whatever I want to my current workplace. Ranges from a tiny Case Peanut to a near 11in Kershaw Lucha.
@@TomTomTomTom538 that's unfortunate, but at least you learned from your mistake and changed direction. Then went on to make us all change directions, thanks Tom Tom.
I've got Swiss army knife that I've had for years. And as a trades man I carry all sorts of what would be deemed as dangerous in the wrong hands. Mind you I know some that shouldn't be let loose with any tools after seeing their handy skills around their homes lol 😆 😂
the laws and rules regarding "legal carry" is ridiculous! my dad and I have carried everywhere we go for over a decade. carry what you want, make sure you have a pre rehearsed "good reason", or legitimate excuse for carrying what you are carrying, for example fishing, for work (carpentry, etc). the simple act of carrying a TOOL should not get you in trouble! laughable politics here in the UK.
Some years ago I was chatting with a CPS barrister (expert in blades) regarding legal carry knives and she said never to mention fishing - basically everyone does and it is usually quite easy to prove that you were not going fishing; carpet fitting was another trade frequently mentioned. Plenty of people have been prosecuted for carrying non-EDC knives in situations most of us may feel are acceptable - I think BBB details one in a previous video. Just a quick note Victor, your public statement above suggests that you are aware of the law and have an intention of purposefully breaking it - may not be too clever posted there if you ever do get stopped and it is certainly not good advice for others.
@@morethan4mph thank you for your response, and thank you for the advise. It was never my intention to tell people what to do, or how to do it. I was simply sharing my opinion on the state of our edc restrictions. I admit that it is not good advice to tell people to carry whatever they like but if you were to be stopped and found in possession of the bladed article spoken about in this video you would face the same prosecution as a person who was carrying a larger fixed blade for example, which is completely unjustified but thats the way she goes i guess. Thanks again buddy! 😊
I live in the U.S. I went to a blacksmiths conference last year as I have for several years. There's been a guy I've seen there regularly with a Bowie knife strapped to his hip with a 10 to 11 inch blade. Nobody even looks twice. I feel bad for people who live in places where a multi too may be deemed a weapon and too dangerous to carry. Ridiculous!
Agreed. I hate seeing that this is even questioned. I hate seeing a populace completely dependent on a small, unarmed police force for their personal safety.
@@ahumblepoetPolice here only use firearms in certain circumstances. Because of this, I enjoy being 66.5 times or 6650% less likely to die due to wrongful murder by our fantastic police force.
@@NeillWylie you also don’t live in a country where some cultures glorify crime, drug use and violence. You don’t live in a society that encourages it’s youth to fight and argue with police and resist arrest raising the stakes for everyone involved. You also don’t live in a country that gives a payout to the families of criminals who resist lawful arrest and get injured or killed doing it. These are the factors that make American arrests so prone end in bloodshed.
I have a similarly sized micro multi tool that I used to carry on my keys in a pouch. Since all the confusion shown by the police over the last 21 months I now don't carry it. Just cannot trust a police officer to know the law anymore. They are just as likely to tell you it is illegal and confiscate it to 'do me a favour'
I have made a point to look up the actual legislation, read it and made sure I understand it, and I have also emailed a copy to myself so that I can pull it up on the phone if challenged, otherwise I am quite happy to suffer the false arrest and argue it all later.
I've had a Dime for about 3 years now and the small non locking blade was a factor in my choosing it. It's fine for what it is though I went for the red version as they're so small they're easy to loose in the outdoors.
I have carried a Swiss Army knife Explorer model given to me as twenty first present now being seventy plus. On a factory visit there was a sigh saying no instruments that could be classed as a weapon so I declared I had a pen knife . Well the world opened up on me with threats of confiscation and went through all the relevant reasons why a pen knife was not a classed an offensive weapon but they where not having any of that and still wanted to confiscate it. They only relented when told them the knives value and I would instantly start legal proceedings the moment i arrived home for its return with no excuses as it was a gift from my late mother plus all the additional costs I could think of.
Why would they want to confiscate it? Leaving aside whether it is a legitimate request in the first place (I don't think it is - a private business/person has no authority to confiscate and dispose of other people's property), surely it would have been more than enough that you hand in the _very dangerous_ Swiss Army knife (a military weapon, no less!) to the security team for safe keeping, go through your visit and get the item returned when you leave?
@@dlevi67 A Swiss Army Knife is not a military weapon: it's a small army utility knife, which is why it also has a screwdriver, awl and tin opener on it. A Swiss Army Bayonet is a military weapon: it's a large knife and its prime purpose is to kill. Totally different uses. If you tried to harm someone with a Swiss army knife you're liable to lose your own fingers as the blade folds. xx
I use to abide by the law until they started to be formulated by idiots, I've carried a knife since I was 7 years old I'm now 71 and have never stabbed anyone, I've also been a avid student of martial arts since aged 15, so to me the idea of using the knife for self defence is ludicrous, so these laws penalise the people that mostly abide by the law, when the naughty people don't give a flying fuck about carrying a machete 😒
It takes around thirty seconds to get a little pocket knife out and someone could destroy a larynx in less than a second. Maybe martial artists should be able to carry knives as they are not needed as a weapon or as a self defense tool.
@@jfilm7466 yes buddy, I do indeed, you could walk about with a bowie knife on open display on your belt, walk through the centre of town and nobody batted an eyelid, now people freak out at a toothpick ✌
@@jfilm7466 the whole concept is bloody ridiculous, a knife is a tool, yes it can be used to inflict injury, but so can grandma's knitting needles, a rolled up newspaper, a walking cane, umbrella the list is endless, and of course none of it affects the baddy, he'll do what the fuck he wants, I wonder if they'll ever decide I need to be permanently in handcuffs, because after 56 years of combat training, the vast majority kumite and not kata orientated, I suspect that my hands are every bit as lethal as a leatherman multi tool with a 3 inch locking blade 🙄
Could always point out that you do not have to spend a lot for a legal carry pocket knife when there are blades like the Victorinox tinker which will suit most multi tool needs other than the pliars. Also Victorinox is less seen as threatening by many members of the public.
I have a very similar multi tool with a blade under 3" but all the tools lock in place when opened and can only be closed with the release of a switch. Would it not be a reasonable excuse that its purpose is a multi tool that you carry incase a small repair of any kind may arise at anytime?
Picked up one of these at a car boot sale for £5 brand new in pack and its been on my keys since for 3 years now. Recently lidl was selling this same multi tool in a combo with another knife for £18. Have been to a few events at birmingham NEC and other places where my bag has been searched and I have actually shown them that I have this on my keys and they have all said no worries.
Great video. It's refreshing to have someone knowledgeable in the law explain it. Can you please cover the leatherman bond multitool. Many sites including leatherman official list it as UK legal as it's non locking, and 2.9". However due to the way it folds, you need to open the handles to close the knife. Does this make it immediately foldable or not? Many multitools have this design for safety so the knife won't close on your fingers accidentally. I think there is a lot of confusion on the legality of these types of multitool. Cheers.
I have exactly this multi tool in my pocket, the packaging opening tool is very good, as is the bottle opener, I also have a gerber splice and leatherman micra and style Cs, I tend to have one or other of them with me most of the time (I'm in the UK)
As an ex UK cop, I use to advise... less than 3" and non locking is fine. You can carry larger, (or locking), but need a lawful excuse/reason for doing so, e.g. you may need a larger locking blade if wild camping/hunting/or performing your job... (but keep it in your rucksack/toolbox until you reach your destination). And the biggest mistake people seem to make is thinking that their 'car' is a private place for the purpose of carrying a knife.... it isn’t, the same rules apply... lawful reason required. Finally... contradictory as this may sound, I would advise any younger person not to carry 'any' form of knife in public unless you really do intend to use it as a utility item, as doing so only invites the risk of accusation and or having it turned against you in a bad situation. My two pennys worth for anybody interested. 👍
I have EDC a Vic huntsman for over 25 years. I regularly use it in front of workmates, friends and family without issue to the point where people will now ask me if they can borrow it when I’m around. In my view, people generally don’t consider these types of knives as weapons ,it’s large lockers or fixed blades that spook people. I wouldn’t dream of taking it on a night out drinking (I have a classic on my key ring for that 😉) but If it was ever confiscated or if I was ever charged with breaking whatever law because of it, I’m afraid I would just buy another and carry on as usual.
I've got the Tesco version of this , it has no scissors but two blades instead . One is about the same size as the Gerber , one is smaller but slightly serrated . Very handy as a legal EDC tool and only about £7 .
Fantastic video on a great little multi-tool! Can I ask that you take a look at the Leatherman Bond and the Gerber MP-600 Bladeless in future please? The manufacturers of both tools claim they are UK compliant and go about it in different ways, however, both tools have ‘locking’ aspects that may fall foul of UK law. The Bond with it failing to fold fully closed in a single action when the knife is deployed and the tool closed, and the Gerber MP-600 Bladeless containing actual locking tools such as the grit-blade and scissors.
Here's one you should look at. Forces deluxe combo KFS set, marketed by Cadet direct. This is a folding pocket knife with the fork and spoon clipped onto its side which is also equipped with a multi purpose bottle and can opener. One of these lives inside my mess tins wrapped in a dish cloth.
I have a large collection of walking sticks all functional and many beautiful to my eye, but I have concerns about two of them. My concern is about the handles which taper off to points. Would a court consider them offensive weapons or pointed articles?
Good question. Since a screwdriver is not in and of itself considered a pointed article, and there is a specific ban of sword-sticks (canes with blades hidden inside them), I doubt they would be, based on the letter of the law. I assume the "point" is still a flat cane point, even if tapering, not something sharp, like a spike...
Hey BBB, thanks for the continuing info. As a side question, I've seen numerous coppers carrying (full size) multitools on their belt/vest. Now I know they can carry offensive weapons to do their job, but under what authority can they openly carry a bladed article which would result in a law-abiding citizen having to justify themselves? After all, a copper does not _need_ a knife/tool to restrain a suspect, and (unlike the good old days) they don't willingly help people out with things when in a pinch.
(this comments been edited to appease a prick )If only that copper had a blade ,he could have cut this seat belt , damn it just have to burn to death, and other scenarios . to be honest, you should be more concerned with the guy walking towards you with a machete under his coat than a copper with a multi tool lol.
Look up the Leatherman Style PS, its a similar keychain sized multitool. However, it does not have a blade on it, only a tiny scissors. You can legally carry it on a commercial airliner (according to the US TSA), though apparently some amusement parks will still make you leave it in a locker.
As someone in IT, I sometimes need to carry small screwdrivers as part of my work. If I were stopped while on public transit or while eating in a restaurant, and the screwdrivers were found in my possession, I wonder if I could be charged or have some or all of the screwdrivers confiscated as an offensive weapon?
I have a similar tool. I showed it to an armed police man outside Windsor Castle. He said it was perfectly legal. I took it on holiday via Heathrow and it passed security. On the way back from Spain it was confiscated by Spanish security. It was not the blade but the screwdriver that they objected to!
No , Sorry I'm a cynic , but the Security guard probably wanted one him self & was too tight to buy his own (a simple abuse of power) , not too long ago a friend of mine brought back a cheaper but much larger though similar version bought in Spain whilst on holiday , it was in his hand luggage and showed up on X Ray they questioned him so he showed it to them , they just gave him it back so he put it back in the back pack and returned without any further problems .
Hi, I’d be interested to hear your view and the laws view on a leatherman bond, it doesn’t lock, but due to the handle design it doesn’t fold away fully, also what about a knife that doesn’t lock automatically, but can lock by way of a secondary action, like a opinel knife
You should look at the Victorinox Skipper Pro. Technically this knife would be legal blade wise, but it also has a large Marlin Spike. A very chunky metal spike for undoing knots in wet rope, and many other boating activities. Pretty sure its fine on the sea but travelling to the coast?
Since you're doing a few videos on knives and tools, had you considered the position of collectors of such things and any 'gotchas' or pitfalls that one would have to keep in mind when choosing items to collect, acquiring them via import, or displaying them?
Don't import knives with any type of 'Flipper' on the blade. Border Force has been very keen on seizing them under the guise of 'assisted opening'. Obvisouly, don't import anything which is clearly illegal as well. 😜😜
Hi, please can you do a video explaining if it is legal to carry a pair of scissors in a first aid kit which is in the boot of your car? My family and I were recently in a traffic accident and are replenishing the first aid kit and started to wonder if it's OK to have scissors as part of it? Thank you
Hello, does the Leatherman Micra fall foul of the rules based on the 'must be able to fold away at all times' aspect? It's very similar to this design, except the blade folds away to the inside of the handle, rather than the outside. Meaning, if you have the blade out and the handles folded back together, you can't fold the blade away because it gets about 40° closed before it clashes on the other half of the main body. It is otherwise a 1.5" blade and doesn't lock.
What would be the opinion on carrying e.g. Leatherman WIngman together with the other road-side bike tools on the bike (when cycling around, commuting, etc.)? The explanation being it has the pliers, which is the bike-repair tool missing from any road-side bike repair kit I looked at. But it has locking knife on it. Would possible emergency road-side bike repair amount for a good reason? What if the blade itself is removed from it? I guess that all the other tools not being lockable (e.g. can opener does have a tiny blade though) are ok? And one more: some multi-tools have have a saw on them - is that considered a sharp/pointy/blade object covered by that law?
so i carry a legal pocket knife and often a multi tool, but i removed the blade from it as it was rubbish anyway, but also locked, my question is what about the saw on the same tool, would a saw be a blade, or is a saw a tool as it were?
Not sure if it has been addressed in any of your videos but, if you were found to be carrying a multi tool that had been designed to be locking but had then been modified to prevent it from locking, could you still end up in hot water? I have purchased a Leatherman Rev and added a larger shim/washer to prevent the knife locking. Note this cannot be undone without additional tools.
I recently purchased the a similar item - Leatherman Micra, and I’m impressed! Very high quality, the micra includes scissors instead of pliers, although you can get a plier equivalent which is called the Leatherman Squirt.
Would you be able to look at the leatherman bond?. It's a multitool that doesn't look open. But the design means the handle blocks the blade from closing. It would be interesting to get your views.
Here's an exercise in hair-splitting for you: I have a leatherman mini tool (sadly a model no longer in production). The blade on that is very small (about an inch) and does not lock, but it opens the other way around to your Gerber, so when the blade is opened in use the handle is closed in such a way as to prevent the blade from fully closing. It's still not locked, just held open with a spring detent, but it cannot close fully in the useable position. Am I in trouble for this? I was under the impression this was 100% legitimate and I use it a lot for work tasks in the lab.
Good choice it's a great little tool , but your right the cross head screw driver works at a pinch & both that and the flat screw blade screw driver could do with being a bit longer , enabling them to get into deeply recessed screw holes . I have a very fine diamond knife sharpener which I bought a few years ago from My local Fishing tackle shop for ( if I remember correctly) £4.99 or £4.95 for sharpening My filleting knife , a few minutes spent with that turned mine into a veritable razor blade able to slice a paper towel , sadly due to being so small I lost my Micro tool so I'm considering buying a Gerber Vice & Mini Paraframe twin pack , but for some daft reason Gerber have retained the frame locking mechanism , I might still buy it , then disassemble the para blade and grind of a few millimetres of the locking mechanism to try & make it UK legal carry . Would that be a legal knife if I did that ? Thanks for the video
Could I ask you your opinion on the Leatherman Bond multi-tool? It’s being widely sold and reviewed as being UK legal but I do not believe it is. The blade is under 3 inches, so it’s fine in that regard. The issue is whether or not it is locking. It does not lock in the sense that it doesn’t have a liner or back lock or anything like that. However with the blade out and handles folded (as they would be when using it) the blade cannot be closed. It will move a bit but is then blocked by the handle. I’ve seen several people say this a great safety feature as it means it won’t close on your finger, however surely that means that it no longer a knife which is ‘immediately foldable at all times’ and as such would not be legal for UK carry. I’ve seen several usually responsible sellers and reviews that don’t seem to have picked up on this. I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
This is my favourite multi-tool for urban carry. Practical without being overloaded with pointless tools. It's a lot more discreet than other knives too. I've opened a legal carry knife in the office for box cutting before and received some suspect looks, where as this doesn't even raise an eyebrow.
I am a fan of the Gerber dime. I have three of them, one of which is the Gerber dime travel, a blade-less version. It replaces the knife with a larger file and replaces the box opener with a zipper hook. A nice small tool. Two things that you didn't mention are the bottle opener that the zip tie was attached to and the tweezers (although the tweezers aren't that good).
I have carried a Dime travel for years. I prefer it since Im able to carry a normal pocket knife making the tiny blade pointless. I have also ground the hook into an awl/scratch marker.
1) I think it would ha e been helpful to name the multitool as the Gerber Dime. 2) I've had several Dimes and enjoyed them. I only broke one item, one of the straight screwdrivers, and I was forcing it very hard. Recently the delivered price of the Dime (to Canada) seemed to go up, so I started shopping around, and I settled on a Nextool mini flagship for around the same price and quality and more functionality.
I'd be interested in someone shedding some light on some claimed uk legal full size tools. In the case of the Gerber MP600 Bladeless some people seem to think that it's locking scissors make it illegal, and then some other people seem to mention the fact it has a locking grit saw.
it is a locking blade which makes something illegal - that and the blade length of course!. I have a locking (bladed) multitool for work but carry a non-locking multitool the rest of the time. The number of times I use the multitool bits is unbelievable, but I hardly ever use the blade! Even walking the dogs can require its frequent use (brambles, old wire fencing etc).
Are we allowed to carry anything for self defence? And can we even use martial arts to successfully defend our selves in uk? I mean if I was being mugged and I successfully knocked the guy out and then got arrested and it transpired I practiced martial arts, would that bode against me?
Good Afternoon, thank you for sharing your expertise. I know there are some restrictions around carrying any bladed article in places such as schools. Have you made a video covering this or can you point me in the direction of the legislation that covers these restrictions/prohabitions. Many thanks.
Great Review ;) .. But one thing that was mentioned .Can you not have a folding 3 inch bladed pen knife that has ridges in the blade ? serrated I meant
Like most pocket knives, whilst you say it does not lock, it does have the small bar at the rear of the knife which stops it moving once opened. Does this count as locking still? I have a Buck 112 Ranger Pro which I use as pocket knife in the UK which I believe is legal however it does lock into place with bar at the rear. You kneed two hands to open and close it. Would this still be classed as legal? I don't carry it everywhere with me, but if I think I might be going somewhere potentially where a knife would be useful (outdoor walks in country park type places for example), it goes in my pocket.
If it locks, you can't carry it without a good reason. "Just in case I need it" has been tested and found not to be a good reason; walking in the countryside where you may end up snagging your clothes/your dog's fur on brambles or thorns _may_ be, but it's chancy, I would say. FWIW, I don't think the spring in the Gerber tool BBB is reviewing is a lock; the blade does not lock into place - it can be closed with a single action of one finger. If there is a distinct "click" and you need two hands, then it's a lock (as is a lock the ring of an Opinel knife).
You have described a slip joint knife. The bar stops it opening further but that is not a lock. It's a stop. It stops the blade going further than it's designed to do. Locking is stopping the blade from closing on you if pressure was put on the back of the blade.
Question, I used to work on building sites. As much as I would take off/out my main tools often my Stanley knife would be in my pocket. If say I went into town for lunch and it was still in my pocket where does the law lie on that ?
What is your thoughts on the lansky world legal knife designed by michel Williamson I have this as an edc and mainly use it for opening parcels and cutting fruit as I am missing my front teeth so can’t bite things like apples
Had a Lansky for years now, very happy with it, heavy solid knife and a decent price, especially compared to the £80+ one he showed yesterday. Only issue with the Lansky is that it looks a little aggressive, I used to work with a special constable and his first reaction was that it was illegal without reading the actual legislation.
An interesting knife to look at is the Böker Plus Griploc Clear with regards to its design, where is doesn't lock but when holding the pressure from your hand creates a resistance force that makes it more difficult for the blade to close on you, unfortunately I believe you are unable to buy them as they have stopped making them but plenty of vids online m, I also have one if you wished to have specific videos or even look at it. Would love your views on it, I also have some other quirky knives in my collection if you need more to talk about.
Oh, this looks like a great replacement to my Victorinox Manager mini Swiss Army knife which is generally in my UK carry kit whenever I can get back to Blighty - with the addition of pliers.
OK, one I'm not too sure about. The Old Timer Buzzsaw Trapper. The main blade is non locking. The cutting edge is exactly 3 inches but the whole blade is longer than the 3 inches, you are taking your chances, this I'm aware of. It also has a saw that is locking, would a locking saw be an issue?
I suspect yes - on two accounts: the saw has a blade, and that's locking, and the length of the sharp part of the blade is irrelevant - it's the overall length that matters. To put things into perspective: carrying a butter knife (no sharp edge, no point, but a bladed article with a fixed blade longer than 3") is not permitted without a good reason.
Loving this series of videos on legal carry. I have carried a knife for years now and always made sure that it falls withing, in my opinion, the excessively restrictive laws but my question is this, are there any laws/rules regarding where to carry you knife, for instance open/counseled and is there any obligation to mention it when interacting with police if not specifically asked?
If the police are going to search you for whatever they will/should ask if you have anything sharp or pointed in your obsession or anything which may harm them. Done it a million times. Culpable and reckless conduct would be the most likely offense if you failed to disclose dependent on circumstances
If you need a good knife for EDC I would recommend the boker plus worldwide for heavier tasks and the Voortrekker for lighter sliceier tasks both UK legal
I have one of those, they fail every year or so, they do have 25 year warranty, I went thro about 6 of theam,it would be good if not for failing often.
Great little tool for what it is. I used the box cutter constantly until it actually broke but that took a long time and a lot of abuse. Still carry it just for the plyers.
I'll be honest, had 2 of these over the last 5 years and the only useful thing is the tiny tweezers and the blade. The cutting jaws on the pliers just force the jaws away from each other like a pair of loose and blunt scissors, the springs buckled trying to grab a nail and the scissors are not good at all, both the pliers and scissors have weak rivet pivots that deformed and now leave both tools loose and unable to cut anything. The blade is not pointed and is curved so thats still good.
I know this has nothing to do with the above video. I was wondering if you have any videos on tenants rights and landlords. Our landlord is currently selling the property we are renting, we will be made homeless if we can't find alternative accommodation. Is there anything we can do? Many thanks. Stressed out renter in fear of being homeless.
Excellent and clear explanations as always. I note you have a Daito behind you on display - what is your opinion on the ownership/ use of such swords in respect of the new laws vv is it legal to own them still. Previously, as a martial artist, one may have argued the sword(s) were necessary in training or demonstration and that may have been ok. I do not see such exception within the laws currently, rather it would seem to my legally untrained eye,that unless the "curved blade" was made either traditionally or before a certain date, it is now illegal to own one at all. I'd guess this may put many martial practitioners in a somewhat precarious position! Can you add some clarity to this please?
If it’s an “useful everyday tool”, are you ok carrying it anywhere (apart from restricted areas), i.e. in what situation could you be accused of carrying it for self-defence?
Here is a question for you BBB.... When is it ok to carry a Leatherman wave????? I have it in my bergan when heading to the hills and then when there I attach it to my belt or harness, As I know it is illegal everywhere in a town etc... I have never had issues with doing this but is it strictly legal??? And if not then How come I have seen MANY police with Leatherman waves and similar Leathermans(all with locking blades) attached to there vests. If you can't carry it in a public place on you belt for the when/just incase reason how can they??? Surely it is illegal for them? The law seems so vague at times.. My reason for having a leatherman wave on me in the outdoors/mountains etc I have given to several officers over the years has been simple I am climbing and wild camping, or caving or kayking so need it for the purpose of cutting rope, tinder, saw wood up, cutting straps, fileting fish I have caught and the list goes on.. This has always been acceptable even when I have nipped in to a shop in the village etc...
ask the policeman - having spoken to many over the years it is surprising how many times they need a multitool or blade. How else are they going to get the rope cut when they come across the swinging suicide? When the family is present? Wait for fire service? Or deal with things there and then. Appropriate use when you consider what they are called to! . You can claim the same if you are working and need a fixed blade.
@@suecharnock9369 But if you can't use the defence because I might need in public place, Surely they should not be allowed too... As the reasons you described are "it might happen" Just like you might come across the same situations and in most cases it is the general public who are there first not the police,emt and fire service...
@@benj5386 Oh I know and for almost ever day I have a reasonable excuse.. It was more about a public place/police and reasonable excuse I was asking due to the might need it reason not being valid..
I dumped all my knives, the classic swiss army micro tool on my key chain and the larger pocket knife to go into the court house to see a copy of a will. I got X-Rayed and had to dig my small flat billfold tool that had a small 1/2 inch blade on it and leave it locked up in a locker for that purpose.
right considering the laws are put in place to stop knife crime, WHAT is the actual difference between being stabbed with a 3inch folding blade vs 3 inch locking blade? As for work scenarios i would much prefer a locking blade while cutting ground liners as it severely limits the possibility of injury to self while in use. In the wrong hands BOTH are EQUALLY harmful to others yet the one that is legal is harmful to others and has a greater risk of harming the wielder
So how is a bushcrafter/wild camper meant to get from their 212th floor flat in central london,to the countryside camping area with an axe/machete/12" folding saw/rambo knife ? An axe on a beltloop is obviously a nono. But if they are at the bottom of a large filled rucksack for a pre arranged camping trip, I assume that is OK and good reason to be carrying such deadly weapons/basic camp tools in the centre of london ?
I was advised by two different Sargents in the police that if They were in the bottom of your rucksack and you had other camping related items then it was acceptable. Hanging off your belt or in your pockets then No. Like a trainee chef taking his knife collection on to public transport to head to college or his work placement.
@@kwakamonkey On a side note. Had a barney with someone on the housing estate,so i go looking for them with a baseball bat to cave their head in. Cops pull up,is the baseball bat a weapon ? What if i have a baseball ball in my pocket ?
Gerber Centre Drive is the real deal. I wrecked my Dime just using its pliers. They shouldve made it with tweezers. Tweezers come in handy in most unexpected situations. They had the right idea but it was made poorly. Using its own tool shouldn't damage itself. I dont regret buying it though. Good multi tool.
LOL I had to go to court once in for some paperwork and it was real rush due to certain circumstances needless to say we turned up with out hiking rucksacs and hiking cloths (of course we had just come from a hike. i had gone quickly through my bag to make sure i was not carrying but completely forgot the kids bag. LOL when we put the bags though the X ray machine the guys there were pissing themselves laughing! We had cameras, folding knives, fuel and a small fixed blade in the kids bag and professional walkie talkies LOL. They were splitting their sides saying you can't take anything of this into the building LOL. I looked at my kid and said what? "Are you trying to get us to stay here permanently LOL"! It was pretty clear, boots covered in mud and looking like wed been out for several weeks in he mountains! Of course it was all handed back to us when we left (i should note I had to get permission in the first place too from the judge in order to even bring my kid with me into the building (as there was no one around to look after him at the time).
Ok, I've got a question which is quite complicated and it contains 3 problems in total. So you could simply divide your answer between those issues. OK, so I have a van (eu registered) which is NOT CARAVAN, however I has an original bed inside, so you can easily sleep inside. There is no wc, cooker, fridge etc. There is NO BARRIER between the front seats and the back. It has 7 seats, so you can jump from drivers seat and seat in second or 3rd row (3rd row is folding bed). Let say I'm going to UK for holiday. I'm travelling a cross the country and want to have a sleep for a night. Question 1: Police comes to my van, knocks and asks what am I doing. Let say I didn't have any alco drinks, so there is no issue with keys etc. HOWEVER I have a torch in my car which has sharp edges and extended body. As I'm very ofter stop in remote areas it's basically a torch which you could use to defend yourself (animals /vandals). I have it in the pocket behind my back in drivers seat so to be easy accessible. I've heard that I cannot carry in my vehicle anything which can be used to harm someone (like even in self defence). I'm curious if this will be problem. Because of police says that I have to carry this tool/torch in the boot, that's pointless because this van has open space, so there is no boot to be honest. Question 2: can I sleep in this van after having a glass of wine or a beer. Yes, I'm travelling, but I've stopped overnight. How can I make it legal if police will ask me about the keys etc (van has separate key for ignition and separate for doors). But I cannot leave eg key to ignition in the boot, because as I've mentioned - open space. Question 3: if my tool (described in the beginning) is being questioned by police as me carrying a weapon (let say they've pulled me over during the day for routine check). Is it help that this device has also an emergency glass breaker? Which in my opinion is crucial to have in a car. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you in advance
Before watching one of your other videos concerning knives, I used to have a Leatherman in my car. The Leatherman in question has a locking blade. Since watching the aforementioned video I have taken this multi tool out of my car and keep it at home. However, if I’d been stopped by a police officer and they found the tool, would my lack of knowledge of knife law be any defence? I do not carry a knife and the Leatherman was always in the car, how would I be expected to be familiar with the fact I was breaking the law?
@@LordBenjaminSalt I figured that would be the answer. So my next question is how would I know such a law exists? I was given the tool as a gift, there was nothing in the packaging to say it would be illegal to carry the tool in the UK. I didn’t consider the tool as a knife as that is not it’s primary function. The only reason I found out about the law was because I became interested in EDC and a knife is a common EDC item, so I did some general research about knives and found out about the law in the course f doing the research.
@@siark-photo yeah I've always been curious as to how we're all supposed to stay informed. We have a convenient highway code to explain what we can do on the roads, it might be nice to have some text for what we can or can't do in day to day life 😅 I guess we're just all existed to independently go questing through legislation hunting for information every time we think about doing something. Especially since "this website/friend/subject expert said it was okay" is not considered a defense of they turn out to have been wrong...
Technically, as long as you didn't carry it as a weapon or intend to use it as such, its legal (as long as the knife length is within legal limit). That said, you would have a stronger case if you actually have a valid reason to have the knife like job related, religious reason, utility use etc etc. In the UK, locking knife is illegal to carry in public unless you have a valid reason with self defense not considered as a valid reason (I mean, that alone would constitute an intend to use it as a weapon). If you're stopped by the police, they probably won't cause you much trouble for it as long as you give them the reason and probably will go of with a warning (more so if its it your car as it could be argued that you're just transporting them between places like jobs to home etc) but do be aware that some areas are knife-free zone which mean no knife of any type may be carry in. Area like city center, pubs and football stadium, so if you're found carrying it there, they may have to confiscate it and/or arrest you.
When I was a boy scout in the 1960s I used to carry a scout knife with a six inch blade in a leather holder on my right hip. It was standard uniform for a scout then and was put to good use when we went camping-though it was in full sight even when we walked around the streets. I don't think it occurred to any of us that it might be used as a weapon against a human being. How times change.
If someone has the inclination to stab another human then they are going to find a way to hurt them regardless if they can carry a large knife in public.
Most every day objects can be used as deady weapons
Pretty bad how things are now. I can't even have a "weapon" on me at work. I don't know how my employer defines a "weapon", so I can't really even take a small pocket knife with me to work, they freaked out when I took a box cutter in that was of a safer design than the ones we're given at work! Weapons / tools don't kill people, people do!
@@TianarTruegard holy crap that sucks. I used to be in the be same boat. I currently carry whatever I want to my current workplace. Ranges from a tiny Case Peanut to a near 11in Kershaw Lucha.
Yes my dad had one of these, I broke it when I was about 12 unfortunately by throwing it at the shed, snapped the point off. What an idiot
@@TomTomTomTom538 that's unfortunate, but at least you learned from your mistake and changed direction. Then went on to make us all change directions, thanks Tom Tom.
I've got Swiss army knife that I've had for years. And as a trades man I carry all sorts of what would be deemed as dangerous in the wrong hands. Mind you I know some that shouldn't be let loose with any tools after seeing their handy skills around their homes lol 😆 😂
the laws and rules regarding "legal carry" is ridiculous! my dad and I have carried everywhere we go for over a decade. carry what you want, make sure you have a pre rehearsed "good reason", or legitimate excuse for carrying what you are carrying, for example fishing, for work (carpentry, etc). the simple act of carrying a TOOL should not get you in trouble! laughable politics here in the UK.
I can't believe it got this far. As an American, these rules seem genuinely evil.
They are incredibly stupid
@@mattposky2892 Evil is a bit of a strong word, but you are right they are stupid.
Some years ago I was chatting with a CPS barrister (expert in blades) regarding legal carry knives and she said never to mention fishing - basically everyone does and it is usually quite easy to prove that you were not going fishing; carpet fitting was another trade frequently mentioned. Plenty of people have been prosecuted for carrying non-EDC knives in situations most of us may feel are acceptable - I think BBB details one in a previous video. Just a quick note Victor, your public statement above suggests that you are aware of the law and have an intention of purposefully breaking it - may not be too clever posted there if you ever do get stopped and it is certainly not good advice for others.
@@morethan4mph thank you for your response, and thank you for the advise. It was never my intention to tell people what to do, or how to do it. I was simply sharing my opinion on the state of our edc restrictions. I admit that it is not good advice to tell people to carry whatever they like but if you were to be stopped and found in possession of the bladed article spoken about in this video you would face the same prosecution as a person who was carrying a larger fixed blade for example, which is completely unjustified but thats the way she goes i guess. Thanks again buddy! 😊
I live in the U.S. I went to a blacksmiths conference last year as I have for several years. There's been a guy I've seen there regularly with a Bowie knife strapped to his hip with a 10 to 11 inch blade. Nobody even looks twice. I feel bad for people who live in places where a multi too may be deemed a weapon and too dangerous to carry. Ridiculous!
Agreed. I hate seeing that this is even questioned. I hate seeing a populace completely dependent on a small, unarmed police force for their personal safety.
@@ahumblepoetPolice here only use firearms in certain circumstances. Because of this, I enjoy being 66.5 times or 6650% less likely to die due to wrongful murder by our fantastic police force.
@@NeillWylie you also don’t live in a country where some cultures glorify crime, drug use and violence. You don’t live in a society that encourages it’s youth to fight and argue with police and resist arrest raising the stakes for everyone involved.
You also don’t live in a country that gives a payout to the families of criminals who resist lawful arrest and get injured or killed doing it.
These are the factors that make American arrests so prone end in bloodshed.
@@ahumblepoet Have you heard of drill music? How about looking up knife crimes in Britain. I mean almost everything you just said is an opinion.
@@uwannagethighbro577 show me the lie.
I have a similarly sized micro multi tool that I used to carry on my keys in a pouch. Since all the confusion shown by the police over the last 21 months I now don't carry it. Just cannot trust a police officer to know the law anymore. They are just as likely to tell you it is illegal and confiscate it to 'do me a favour'
I have made a point to look up the actual legislation, read it and made sure I understand it, and I have also emailed a copy to myself so that I can pull it up on the phone if challenged, otherwise I am quite happy to suffer the false arrest and argue it all later.
@@gordon861 good idea.
I've had a Dime for about 3 years now and the small non locking blade was a factor in my choosing it. It's fine for what it is though I went for the red version as they're so small they're easy to loose in the outdoors.
I have carried a Swiss Army knife Explorer model given to me as twenty first present now being seventy plus. On a factory visit there was a sigh saying no instruments that could be classed as a weapon so I declared I had a pen knife . Well the world opened up on me with threats of confiscation and went through all the relevant reasons why a pen knife was not a classed an offensive weapon but they where not having any of that and still wanted to confiscate it. They only relented when told them the knives value and I would instantly start legal proceedings the moment i arrived home for its return with no excuses as it was a gift from my late mother plus all the additional costs I could think of.
Why would they want to confiscate it? Leaving aside whether it is a legitimate request in the first place (I don't think it is - a private business/person has no authority to confiscate and dispose of other people's property), surely it would have been more than enough that you hand in the _very dangerous_ Swiss Army knife (a military weapon, no less!) to the security team for safe keeping, go through your visit and get the item returned when you leave?
@@dlevi67 A Swiss Army Knife is not a military weapon: it's a small army utility knife, which is why it also has a screwdriver, awl and tin opener on it. A Swiss Army Bayonet is a military weapon: it's a large knife and its prime purpose is to kill. Totally different uses.
If you tried to harm someone with a Swiss army knife you're liable to lose your own fingers as the blade folds. xx
@@pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 A-hem. I should clearly have written "WARNING - SARCASTIC CONTENT AHEAD"
Highly offensive with a pair of scissor……and especially the magnifying glass! Lol 😂
I use to abide by the law until they started to be formulated by idiots, I've carried a knife since I was 7 years old I'm now 71 and have never stabbed anyone, I've also been a avid student of martial arts since aged 15, so to me the idea of using the knife for self defence is ludicrous, so these laws penalise the people that mostly abide by the law, when the naughty people don't give a flying fuck about carrying a machete 😒
Remember the old days when we openly wore our little sheath knives as a kid? All we did was whittle and play.
It takes around thirty seconds to get a little pocket knife out and someone could destroy a larynx in less than a second. Maybe martial artists should be able to carry knives as they are not needed as a weapon or as a self defense tool.
@@jfilm7466 yes buddy, I do indeed, you could walk about with a bowie knife on open display on your belt, walk through the centre of town and nobody batted an eyelid, now people freak out at a toothpick ✌
@@jfilm7466 the whole concept is bloody ridiculous, a knife is a tool, yes it can be used to inflict injury, but so can grandma's knitting needles, a rolled up newspaper, a walking cane, umbrella the list is endless, and of course none of it affects the baddy, he'll do what the fuck he wants, I wonder if they'll ever decide I need to be permanently in handcuffs, because after 56 years of combat training, the vast majority kumite and not kata orientated, I suspect that my hands are every bit as lethal as a leatherman multi tool with a 3 inch locking blade 🙄
Even the old Bill gave us a smile.
Could always point out that you do not have to spend a lot for a legal carry pocket knife when there are blades like the Victorinox tinker which will suit most multi tool needs other than the pliars. Also Victorinox is less seen as threatening by many members of the public.
I have a very similar multi tool with a blade under 3" but all the tools lock in place when opened and can only be closed with the release of a switch. Would it not be a reasonable excuse that its purpose is a multi tool that you carry incase a small repair of any kind may arise at anytime?
Nope - tried and failed in court. Specific good reason at the time in question is required if the knife locks
@@BlackBeltBarrister thanks for clearing that up. I thought that would be the case👍
Please can you clarify what knife I can carry when I go camping so that I don’t break the law . Thank you
Picked up one of these at a car boot sale for £5 brand new in pack and its been on my keys since for 3 years now. Recently lidl was selling this same multi tool in a combo with another knife for £18. Have been to a few events at birmingham NEC and other places where my bag has been searched and I have actually shown them that I have this on my keys and they have all said no worries.
I have a leatherman micra, very useful little tool, which I frequently use when out and about
Great video. It's refreshing to have someone knowledgeable in the law explain it. Can you please cover the leatherman bond multitool. Many sites including leatherman official list it as UK legal as it's non locking, and 2.9". However due to the way it folds, you need to open the handles to close the knife. Does this make it immediately foldable or not? Many multitools have this design for safety so the knife won't close on your fingers accidentally. I think there is a lot of confusion on the legality of these types of multitool. Cheers.
I have exactly this multi tool in my pocket, the packaging opening tool is very good, as is the bottle opener, I also have a gerber splice and leatherman micra and style Cs, I tend to have one or other of them with me most of the time (I'm in the UK)
As an ex UK cop, I use to advise... less than 3" and non locking is fine.
You can carry larger, (or locking), but need a lawful excuse/reason for doing so, e.g. you may need a larger locking blade if wild camping/hunting/or performing your job... (but keep it in your rucksack/toolbox until you reach your destination).
And the biggest mistake people seem to make is thinking that their 'car' is a private place for the purpose of carrying a knife.... it isn’t, the same rules apply... lawful reason required.
Finally... contradictory as this may sound, I would advise any younger person not to carry 'any' form of knife in public unless you really do intend to use it as a utility item, as doing so only invites the risk of accusation and or having it turned against you in a bad situation.
My two pennys worth for anybody interested. 👍
I have EDC a Vic huntsman for over 25 years. I regularly use it in front of workmates, friends and family without issue to the point where people will now ask me if they can borrow it when I’m around. In my view, people generally don’t consider these types of knives as weapons ,it’s large lockers or fixed blades that spook people.
I wouldn’t dream of taking it on a night out drinking (I have a classic on my key ring for that 😉) but If it was ever confiscated or if I was ever charged with breaking whatever law because of it, I’m afraid I would just buy another and carry on as usual.
I've got the Tesco version of this , it has no scissors but two blades instead . One is about the same size as the Gerber , one is smaller but slightly serrated . Very handy as a legal EDC tool and only about £7 .
Fantastic video on a great little multi-tool!
Can I ask that you take a look at the Leatherman Bond and the Gerber MP-600 Bladeless in future please?
The manufacturers of both tools claim they are UK compliant and go about it in different ways, however, both tools have ‘locking’ aspects that may fall foul of UK law. The Bond with it failing to fold fully closed in a single action when the knife is deployed and the tool closed, and the Gerber MP-600 Bladeless containing actual locking tools such as the grit-blade and scissors.
Here's one you should look at.
Forces deluxe combo KFS set, marketed by Cadet direct.
This is a folding pocket knife with the fork and spoon clipped onto its side which is also equipped with a multi purpose bottle and can opener.
One of these lives inside my mess tins wrapped in a dish cloth.
I have a large collection of walking sticks all functional and many beautiful to my eye, but I have concerns about two of them.
My concern is about the handles which taper off to points. Would a court consider them offensive weapons or pointed articles?
Good question. Since a screwdriver is not in and of itself considered a pointed article, and there is a specific ban of sword-sticks (canes with blades hidden inside them), I doubt they would be, based on the letter of the law. I assume the "point" is still a flat cane point, even if tapering, not something sharp, like a spike...
This is golden. A ripped barrister with a cut finger running knife reviews. Subscribed! Very helpful ultimately trustworthy perspective.
Hey BBB, thanks for the continuing info.
As a side question, I've seen numerous coppers carrying (full size) multitools on their belt/vest. Now I know they can carry offensive weapons to do their job, but under what authority can they openly carry a bladed article which would result in a law-abiding citizen having to justify themselves? After all, a copper does not _need_ a knife/tool to restrain a suspect, and (unlike the good old days) they don't willingly help people out with things when in a pinch.
(this comments been edited to appease a prick )If only that copper had a blade ,he could have cut this seat belt , damn it just have to burn to death, and other scenarios . to be honest, you should be more concerned with the guy walking towards you with a machete under his coat than a copper with a multi tool lol.
@@anthonyg4671 There are safety seatbelt cutters that have an enclosed blade. No need for a locking blade multitool.
@@the_once-and-future_king. and other scenarios.
@@anthonyg4671 not very convincing
@@bwxbwx6453 under what authority? you need a good reason... not just well you never know.... i might need it for something
Look up the Leatherman Style PS, its a similar keychain sized multitool. However, it does not have a blade on it, only a tiny scissors. You can legally carry it on a commercial airliner (according to the US TSA), though apparently some amusement parks will still make you leave it in a locker.
As someone in IT, I sometimes need to carry small screwdrivers as part of my work. If I were stopped while on public transit or while eating in a restaurant, and the screwdrivers were found in my possession, I wonder if I could be charged or have some or all of the screwdrivers confiscated as an offensive weapon?
I have a similar tool. I showed it to an armed police man outside Windsor Castle. He said it was perfectly legal. I took it on holiday via Heathrow and it passed security. On the way back from Spain it was confiscated by Spanish security. It was not the blade but the screwdriver that they objected to!
No , Sorry I'm a cynic , but the Security guard probably wanted one him self & was too tight to buy his own (a simple abuse of power) , not too long ago a friend of mine brought back a cheaper but much larger though similar version bought in Spain whilst on holiday , it was in his hand luggage and showed up on X Ray they questioned him so he showed it to them , they just gave him it back so he put it back in the back pack and returned without any further problems .
@@richarddixon7276 Back in the day you could buy swiss army knives etc at Geneva airport - different times!
Hi, I’d be interested to hear your view and the laws view on a leatherman bond, it doesn’t lock, but due to the handle design it doesn’t fold away fully, also what about a knife that doesn’t lock automatically, but can lock by way of a secondary action, like a opinel knife
You should look at the Victorinox Skipper Pro. Technically this knife would be legal blade wise, but it also has a large Marlin Spike. A very chunky metal spike for undoing knots in wet rope, and many other boating activities. Pretty sure its fine on the sea but travelling to the coast?
Since you're doing a few videos on knives and tools, had you considered the position of collectors of such things and any 'gotchas' or pitfalls that one would have to keep in mind when choosing items to collect, acquiring them via import, or displaying them?
Don't import knives with any type of 'Flipper' on the blade. Border Force has been very keen on seizing them under the guise of 'assisted opening'. Obvisouly, don't import anything which is clearly illegal as well. 😜😜
Hi, please can you do a video explaining if it is legal to carry a pair of scissors in a first aid kit which is in the boot of your car? My family and I were recently in a traffic accident and are replenishing the first aid kit and started to wonder if it's OK to have scissors as part of it? Thank you
Hello, does the Leatherman Micra fall foul of the rules based on the 'must be able to fold away at all times' aspect? It's very similar to this design, except the blade folds away to the inside of the handle, rather than the outside. Meaning, if you have the blade out and the handles folded back together, you can't fold the blade away because it gets about 40° closed before it clashes on the other half of the main body. It is otherwise a 1.5" blade and doesn't lock.
I have a similar Leatherman Squirt ,well made in USA & surprising how handy it is . Saved the day for me & others on quite a few occasions .
I have it’s brother, the Leatherman Micra and it’s amazing!
The only difference I’m aware of it’s got spring loaded scissors instead of pliers :)
@@z00mg0at5 Yea mine has the pliers Squirt PS 4 with black scales .👍
What would be the opinion on carrying e.g. Leatherman WIngman together with the other road-side bike tools on the bike (when cycling around, commuting, etc.)? The explanation being it has the pliers, which is the bike-repair tool missing from any road-side bike repair kit I looked at. But it has locking knife on it. Would possible emergency road-side bike repair amount for a good reason? What if the blade itself is removed from it? I guess that all the other tools not being lockable (e.g. can opener does have a tiny blade though) are ok? And one more: some multi-tools have have a saw on them - is that considered a sharp/pointy/blade object covered by that law?
so i carry a legal pocket knife and often a multi tool, but i removed the blade from it as it was rubbish anyway, but also locked, my question is what about the saw on the same tool, would a saw be a blade, or is a saw a tool as it were?
Not sure if it has been addressed in any of your videos but, if you were found to be carrying a multi tool that had been designed to be locking but had then been modified to prevent it from locking, could you still end up in hot water? I have purchased a Leatherman Rev and added a larger shim/washer to prevent the knife locking. Note this cannot be undone without additional tools.
I recently purchased the a similar item - Leatherman Micra, and I’m impressed!
Very high quality, the micra includes scissors instead of pliers, although you can get a plier equivalent which is called the Leatherman Squirt.
I have one of those. I think the blade part is 4cms so should be legal.
I have both squirts, pliers and scissors versions. Superb!
Apologies if already done a video on this, but what constitutes a 'restricted area'?
Nightclubs ,pubs ,football stadiums I would think.
Would you be able to look at the leatherman bond?. It's a multitool that doesn't look open. But the design means the handle blocks the blade from closing. It would be interesting to get your views.
These days, it's an offence to breathe in public, so carrying anything is also an offence. Even ice cream is a lethal weapon.
Damn right!!! Specially own opinion👍🏻
The Gerber dime so has tweezers if yours has too! Great little bit of kit, had mine for a few months
Here's an exercise in hair-splitting for you: I have a leatherman mini tool (sadly a model no longer in production). The blade on that is very small (about an inch) and does not lock, but it opens the other way around to your Gerber, so when the blade is opened in use the handle is closed in such a way as to prevent the blade from fully closing. It's still not locked, just held open with a spring detent, but it cannot close fully in the useable position. Am I in trouble for this? I was under the impression this was 100% legitimate and I use it a lot for work tasks in the lab.
Good choice it's a great little tool , but your right the cross head screw driver works at a pinch & both that and the flat screw blade screw driver could do with being a bit longer , enabling them to get into deeply recessed screw holes . I have a very fine diamond knife sharpener which I bought a few years ago from My local Fishing tackle shop for ( if I remember correctly) £4.99 or £4.95 for sharpening My filleting knife , a few minutes spent with that turned mine into a veritable razor blade able to slice a paper towel , sadly due to being so small I lost my Micro tool so I'm considering buying a Gerber Vice & Mini Paraframe twin pack , but for some daft reason Gerber have retained the frame locking mechanism , I might still buy it , then disassemble the para blade and grind of a few millimetres of the locking mechanism to try & make it UK legal carry . Would that be a legal knife if I did that ? Thanks for the video
I have one of these as my main keyring, cracking little tool... Don't forget the tweezers slotted into it!
Could I ask you your opinion on the Leatherman Bond multi-tool? It’s being widely sold and reviewed as being UK legal but I do not believe it is. The blade is under 3 inches, so it’s fine in that regard. The issue is whether or not it is locking. It does not lock in the sense that it doesn’t have a liner or back lock or anything like that. However with the blade out and handles folded (as they would be when using it) the blade cannot be closed. It will move a bit but is then blocked by the handle. I’ve seen several people say this a great safety feature as it means it won’t close on your finger, however surely that means that it no longer a knife which is ‘immediately foldable at all times’ and as such would not be legal for UK carry. I’ve seen several usually responsible sellers and reviews that don’t seem to have picked up on this. I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
I have the dime as well and the most looked over feature is that it also has a tweezer in it
This is my favourite multi-tool for urban carry. Practical without being overloaded with pointless tools. It's a lot more discreet than other knives too. I've opened a legal carry knife in the office for box cutting before and received some suspect looks, where as this doesn't even raise an eyebrow.
Because people are sheep and many don't have a practical bone in their body .
I've gone through 3 of these. I love it so much that I replaced it immediately when I lost it.
I have one of them . I use mine for when I am gardening . Also for when I open a bag of food for feeding the birds
I am a fan of the Gerber dime. I have three of them, one of which is the Gerber dime travel, a blade-less version. It replaces the knife with a larger file and replaces the box opener with a zipper hook. A nice small tool. Two things that you didn't mention are the bottle opener that the zip tie was attached to and the tweezers (although the tweezers aren't that good).
I have carried a Dime travel for years. I prefer it since Im able to carry a normal pocket knife making the tiny blade pointless. I have also ground the hook into an awl/scratch marker.
1) I think it would ha e been helpful to name the multitool as the Gerber Dime.
2) I've had several Dimes and enjoyed them. I only broke one item, one of the straight screwdrivers, and I was forcing it very hard.
Recently the delivered price of the Dime (to Canada) seemed to go up, so I started shopping around, and I settled on a Nextool mini flagship for around the same price and quality and more functionality.
I'd be interested in someone shedding some light on some claimed uk legal full size tools. In the case of the Gerber MP600 Bladeless some people seem to think that it's locking scissors make it illegal, and then some other people seem to mention the fact it has a locking grit saw.
it is a locking blade which makes something illegal - that and the blade length of course!. I have a locking (bladed) multitool for work but carry a non-locking multitool the rest of the time. The number of times I use the multitool bits is unbelievable, but I hardly ever use the blade! Even walking the dogs can require its frequent use (brambles, old wire fencing etc).
I went with the Leatherman Skeletool and removed the locking blade, I wanted a decently sized pair of pliers in my EDC tool roll.
Are we allowed to carry anything for self defence? And can we even use martial arts to successfully defend our selves in uk? I mean if I was being mugged and I successfully knocked the guy out and then got arrested and it transpired I practiced martial arts, would that bode against me?
Good Afternoon, thank you for sharing your expertise. I know there are some restrictions around carrying any bladed article in places such as schools. Have you made a video covering this or can you point me in the direction of the legislation that covers these restrictions/prohabitions. Many thanks.
I have a Honzin multi tool that I purchased of Amazon for £10, the blade is less than 3 inches and does not lock. All good I hope?
Have you seen the Leatherman knifeless Rebar? UK Legal?
Great Review ;) .. But one thing that was mentioned .Can you not have a folding 3 inch bladed pen knife that has ridges in the blade ? serrated I meant
Like most pocket knives, whilst you say it does not lock, it does have the small bar at the rear of the knife which stops it moving once opened. Does this count as locking still? I have a Buck 112 Ranger Pro which I use as pocket knife in the UK which I believe is legal however it does lock into place with bar at the rear. You kneed two hands to open and close it. Would this still be classed as legal? I don't carry it everywhere with me, but if I think I might be going somewhere potentially where a knife would be useful (outdoor walks in country park type places for example), it goes in my pocket.
my understanding is yes - anything which locks the blade is illegal - even Opinels. Of course BBB could state otherwise.
If it locks, you can't carry it without a good reason. "Just in case I need it" has been tested and found not to be a good reason; walking in the countryside where you may end up snagging your clothes/your dog's fur on brambles or thorns _may_ be, but it's chancy, I would say.
FWIW, I don't think the spring in the Gerber tool BBB is reviewing is a lock; the blade does not lock into place - it can be closed with a single action of one finger. If there is a distinct "click" and you need two hands, then it's a lock (as is a lock the ring of an Opinel knife).
You have described a slip joint knife. The bar stops it opening further but that is not a lock. It's a stop. It stops the blade going further than it's designed to do. Locking is stopping the blade from closing on you if pressure was put on the back of the blade.
Question, I used to work on building sites. As much as I would take off/out my main tools often my Stanley knife would be in my pocket. If say I went into town for lunch and it was still in my pocket where does the law lie on that ?
What can be carried for self defence?
nothing
Maybe someone could challenge this in the European Court of Human Rights
mine broke something when i applied force to it not alot but i guess it wasn't meant to grip things for twisting ....
What is your thoughts on the lansky world legal knife designed by michel Williamson I have this as an edc and mainly use it for opening parcels and cutting fruit as I am missing my front teeth so can’t bite things like apples
Had a Lansky for years now, very happy with it, heavy solid knife and a decent price, especially compared to the £80+ one he showed yesterday. Only issue with the Lansky is that it looks a little aggressive, I used to work with a special constable and his first reaction was that it was illegal without reading the actual legislation.
@@gordon861 I have had mine for a few years now too I love it and yeah they do look aggressive that’s why I want to know his view on it
An interesting knife to look at is the Böker Plus Griploc Clear with regards to its design, where is doesn't lock but when holding the pressure from your hand creates a resistance force that makes it more difficult for the blade to close on you, unfortunately I believe you are unable to buy them as they have stopped making them but plenty of vids online m, I also have one if you wished to have specific videos or even look at it. Would love your views on it, I also have some other quirky knives in my collection if you need more to talk about.
that knife has a blade length of 8.4cm which is 3.36 inches making it not uk edc friendly. Which is a shame as its lovely :)
Oh, this looks like a great replacement to my Victorinox Manager mini Swiss Army knife which is generally in my UK carry kit whenever I can get back to Blighty - with the addition of pliers.
OK, one I'm not too sure about. The Old Timer Buzzsaw Trapper. The main blade is non locking. The cutting edge is exactly 3 inches but the whole blade is longer than the 3 inches, you are taking your chances, this I'm aware of. It also has a saw that is locking, would a locking saw be an issue?
I suspect yes - on two accounts: the saw has a blade, and that's locking, and the length of the sharp part of the blade is irrelevant - it's the overall length that matters. To put things into perspective: carrying a butter knife (no sharp edge, no point, but a bladed article with a fixed blade longer than 3") is not permitted without a good reason.
Loving this series of videos on legal carry. I have carried a knife for years now and always made sure that it falls withing, in my opinion, the excessively restrictive laws but my question is this, are there any laws/rules regarding where to carry you knife, for instance open/counseled and is there any obligation to mention it when interacting with police if not specifically asked?
Good question, none off the top of my head like the US but it would make sense to disclose it (and the reasons) when being questioned by police
If the police are going to search you for whatever they will/should ask if you have anything sharp or pointed in your obsession or anything which may harm them. Done it a million times. Culpable and reckless conduct would be the most likely offense if you failed to disclose dependent on circumstances
off grid knives- black mamba v2. can you tell us if this is legal to carry
If you need a good knife for EDC I would recommend the boker plus worldwide for heavier tasks and the Voortrekker for lighter sliceier tasks both UK legal
I had one and it broke plus it's heavy in the pockets, there's so many options I may have used the Gerber dime but wouldn't rely on it.
I have one of those, they fail every year or so, they do have 25 year warranty, I went thro about 6 of theam,it would be good if not for failing often.
Please could you post a video on friction folding knives and there legality
Great little tool for what it is. I used the box cutter constantly until it actually broke but that took a long time and a lot of abuse. Still carry it just for the plyers.
I'll be honest, had 2 of these over the last 5 years and the only useful thing is the tiny tweezers and the blade. The cutting jaws on the pliers just force the jaws away from each other like a pair of loose and blunt scissors, the springs buckled trying to grab a nail and the scissors are not good at all, both the pliers and scissors have weak rivet pivots that deformed and now leave both tools loose and unable to cut anything. The blade is not pointed and is curved so thats still good.
I know this has nothing to do with the above video. I was wondering if you have any videos on tenants rights and landlords.
Our landlord is currently selling the property we are renting, we will be made homeless if we can't find alternative accommodation.
Is there anything we can do?
Many thanks.
Stressed out renter in fear of being homeless.
Excellent and clear explanations as always. I note you have a Daito behind you on display - what is your opinion on the ownership/ use of such swords in respect of the new laws vv is it legal to own them still. Previously, as a martial artist, one may have argued the sword(s) were necessary in training or demonstration and that may have been ok. I do not see such exception within the laws currently, rather it would seem to my legally untrained eye,that unless the "curved blade" was made either traditionally or before a certain date, it is now illegal to own one at all. I'd guess this may put many martial practitioners in a somewhat precarious position! Can you add some clarity to this please?
Wow you're obviously into your EDC gear too, since I saw you opening the package with a Spyderco (don't know which one).
Please do a victorinox pioneer x as it has a reamer and the pointed objects law confuses me
Did you find the hidden tweezers? Could do a lot of damage in the wrong hands!
Victorinox Alox Bantam.
For fans of Forged in Fire, 'It will keeeal.....'.😀
What about in your glove compartment in a car?
What about Leatherman tool. Is that legal? Thanks. Eamonn.
I always find it funny when knives or scissors are in packaging like cable ties which require knives or scissors to get them out.
If it’s an “useful everyday tool”, are you ok carrying it anywhere (apart from restricted areas), i.e. in what situation could you be accused of carrying it for self-defence?
I'd like you to take a look at the Knifeless/EDC Leatherman Rebar.
Leatherback bond is another that is marketed as UK legal carry.
Here is a question for you BBB.... When is it ok to carry a Leatherman wave????? I have it in my bergan when heading to the hills and then when there I attach it to my belt or harness, As I know it is illegal everywhere in a town etc... I have never had issues with doing this but is it strictly legal??? And if not then How come I have seen MANY police with Leatherman waves and similar Leathermans(all with locking blades) attached to there vests. If you can't carry it in a public place on you belt for the when/just incase reason how can they??? Surely it is illegal for them? The law seems so vague at times..
My reason for having a leatherman wave on me in the outdoors/mountains etc I have given to several officers over the years has been simple I am climbing and wild camping, or caving or kayking so need it for the purpose of cutting rope, tinder, saw wood up, cutting straps, fileting fish I have caught and the list goes on.. This has always been acceptable even when I have nipped in to a shop in the village etc...
You've answered your own question. In the hills you have a legitimate use.
ask the policeman - having spoken to many over the years it is surprising how many times they need a multitool or blade. How else are they going to get the rope cut when they come across the swinging suicide? When the family is present? Wait for fire service? Or deal with things there and then. Appropriate use when you consider what they are called to! . You can claim the same if you are working and need a fixed blade.
@@suecharnock9369 But if you can't use the defence because I might need in public place, Surely they should not be allowed too... As the reasons you described are "it might happen" Just like you might come across the same situations and in most cases it is the general public who are there first not the police,emt and fire service...
@@benj5386 Oh I know and for almost ever day I have a reasonable excuse.. It was more about a public place/police and reasonable excuse I was asking due to the might need it reason not being valid..
I dumped all my knives, the classic swiss army micro tool on my key chain and the larger pocket knife to go into the court house to see a copy of a will. I got X-Rayed and had to dig my small flat billfold tool that had a small 1/2 inch blade on it and leave it locked up in a locker for that purpose.
right considering the laws are put in place to stop knife crime, WHAT is the actual difference between being stabbed with a 3inch folding blade vs 3 inch locking blade? As for work scenarios i would much prefer a locking blade while cutting ground liners as it severely limits the possibility of injury to self while in use. In the wrong hands BOTH are EQUALLY harmful to others yet the one that is legal is harmful to others and has a greater risk of harming the wielder
This perfect, i've been looking at a little legal carry as I do a lot of hiking/photography and often need a few of these tools.
What about a non-locking leatherman?
Leatherman makes a bladeless version of the Rebar if you need something a little more robust.
Great video very informative. Could you review the leatherman bond, as it’s marketed as a U.K. carry legal multi tool
0:40 Cable Tied to the cardboard with (What looks like) an R.F. anti-theft strip to make sure you don't shoplift it.
Would a trained first aider be an acceptable use for carrying a multi tool?
So how is a bushcrafter/wild camper meant to get from their 212th floor flat in central london,to the countryside camping area with an axe/machete/12" folding saw/rambo knife ? An axe on a beltloop is obviously a nono. But if they are at the bottom of a large filled rucksack for a pre arranged camping trip, I assume that is OK and good reason to be carrying such deadly weapons/basic camp tools in the centre of london ?
I was advised by two different Sargents in the police that if They were in the bottom of your rucksack and you had other camping related items then it was acceptable. Hanging off your belt or in your pockets then No.
Like a trainee chef taking his knife collection on to public transport to head to college or his work placement.
@@kwakamonkey On a side note. Had a barney with someone on the housing estate,so i go looking for them with a baseball bat to cave their head in. Cops pull up,is the baseball bat a weapon ? What if i have a baseball ball in my pocket ?
Gerber Centre Drive is the real deal.
I wrecked my Dime just using its pliers. They shouldve made it with tweezers. Tweezers come in handy in most unexpected situations.
They had the right idea but it was made poorly. Using its own tool shouldn't damage itself. I dont regret buying it though. Good multi tool.
LOL I had to go to court once in for some paperwork and it was real rush due to certain circumstances needless to say we turned up with out hiking rucksacs and hiking cloths (of course we had just come from a hike. i had gone quickly through my bag to make sure i was not carrying but completely forgot the kids bag. LOL when we put the bags though the X ray machine the guys there were pissing themselves laughing! We had cameras, folding knives, fuel and a small fixed blade in the kids bag and professional walkie talkies LOL. They were splitting their sides saying you can't take anything of this into the building LOL. I looked at my kid and said what? "Are you trying to get us to stay here permanently LOL"!
It was pretty clear, boots covered in mud and looking like wed been out for several weeks in he mountains! Of course it was all handed back to us when we left (i should note I had to get permission in the first place too from the judge in order to even bring my kid with me into the building (as there was no one around to look after him at the time).
Ok, I've got a question which is quite complicated and it contains 3 problems in total. So you could simply divide your answer between those issues.
OK, so I have a van (eu registered) which is NOT CARAVAN, however I has an original bed inside, so you can easily sleep inside. There is no wc, cooker, fridge etc. There is NO BARRIER between the front seats and the back. It has 7 seats, so you can jump from drivers seat and seat in second or 3rd row (3rd row is folding bed). Let say I'm going to UK for holiday. I'm travelling a cross the country and want to have a sleep for a night.
Question 1:
Police comes to my van, knocks and asks what am I doing. Let say I didn't have any alco drinks, so there is no issue with keys etc. HOWEVER I have a torch in my car which has sharp edges and extended body. As I'm very ofter stop in remote areas it's basically a torch which you could use to defend yourself (animals /vandals). I have it in the pocket behind my back in drivers seat so to be easy accessible. I've heard that I cannot carry in my vehicle anything which can be used to harm someone (like even in self defence). I'm curious if this will be problem. Because of police says that I have to carry this tool/torch in the boot, that's pointless because this van has open space, so there is no boot to be honest.
Question 2: can I sleep in this van after having a glass of wine or a beer. Yes, I'm travelling, but I've stopped overnight. How can I make it legal if police will ask me about the keys etc (van has separate key for ignition and separate for doors). But I cannot leave eg key to ignition in the boot, because as I've mentioned - open space.
Question 3: if my tool (described in the beginning) is being questioned by police as me carrying a weapon (let say they've pulled me over during the day for routine check). Is it help that this device has also an emergency glass breaker? Which in my opinion is crucial to have in a car.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Before watching one of your other videos concerning knives, I used to have a Leatherman in my car. The Leatherman in question has a locking blade. Since watching the aforementioned video I have taken this multi tool out of my car and keep it at home. However, if I’d been stopped by a police officer and they found the tool, would my lack of knowledge of knife law be any defence? I do not carry a knife and the Leatherman was always in the car, how would I be expected to be familiar with the fact I was breaking the law?
Ignorance to the law is not considered a valid excuse, no.
@@LordBenjaminSalt I figured that would be the answer. So my next question is how would I know such a law exists? I was given the tool as a gift, there was nothing in the packaging to say it would be illegal to carry the tool in the UK. I didn’t consider the tool as a knife as that is not it’s primary function. The only reason I found out about the law was because I became interested in EDC and a knife is a common EDC item, so I did some general research about knives and found out about the law in the course f doing the research.
@@siark-photo yeah I've always been curious as to how we're all supposed to stay informed. We have a convenient highway code to explain what we can do on the roads, it might be nice to have some text for what we can or can't do in day to day life 😅
I guess we're just all existed to independently go questing through legislation hunting for information every time we think about doing something. Especially since "this website/friend/subject expert said it was okay" is not considered a defense of they turn out to have been wrong...
Technically, as long as you didn't carry it as a weapon or intend to use it as such, its legal (as long as the knife length is within legal limit). That said, you would have a stronger case if you actually have a valid reason to have the knife like job related, religious reason, utility use etc etc. In the UK, locking knife is illegal to carry in public unless you have a valid reason with self defense not considered as a valid reason (I mean, that alone would constitute an intend to use it as a weapon).
If you're stopped by the police, they probably won't cause you much trouble for it as long as you give them the reason and probably will go of with a warning (more so if its it your car as it could be argued that you're just transporting them between places like jobs to home etc) but do be aware that some areas are knife-free zone which mean no knife of any type may be carry in. Area like city center, pubs and football stadium, so if you're found carrying it there, they may have to confiscate it and/or arrest you.
I have read of no laws covering a pomegranate in a rugby sock !
Nice review man! Appreciation 👍