Confession: I've always liked the triangular handguards. Still trying to figure out why they got away from that shape. Also, the A1 barrel profile is awesome. Whatever you give up is worth the weight savings for most applications. "Retro" is relative. Maybe it's actually futuristic.
They went away from that shape because it required 2 seperate part numbers; one for left side, one for right side. The A2 uses the same part for both halves of the handguard. From a logistics snd financial standpoint, it is a improvement.
@@wolfpack4694 Once they are taken off they will never be the same...always rattle...we always had to tape them shut....a pain to get off after a day in the hot sun....or super cold. The newer round ones dont. That was the real reason to get rid of them.....having less part numbers was a bonus but never the reason....that was some BS spread by fake poser Pete Kokales at SOF magazine...
Why is PSA swallowing everything? It's like I go to sleep everyday and they buy up a dozen companies in the 8 hours it takes for me to recover my energies.
Brings me back to memories of being a young soldier back in the day. The days, months, and years when going through field exercises in hot, cold, and even wet conditions of snow, desert, and jungle environments. Cleaning them for hours through a whole day just to turn them in to the arms room so the day would end. These rifles will take the abuse of military service for decades. No matter how beat up the exterior they will fire no matter what. During field exercises these rifles would fire blanks and soldiers often neglect to clean them for days or weeks at a time. When firing service ammunition through them with proper lubrication they work flawlessly when you understand the weapon. Soldiers will clean and keep their weapons cleaned provided that an NCO will kick their ass to clean their weapons clean. Not very happy memories of cleaning of course but firing them was a joy.
Honestly it shouldn't be more than $1,100 or so.. I was going to buy one of their receivers just a stripped lower to build my own but then they wanted $160 for it, that's too much.
My AR has a 20" barrel, like the rifle i qualified with at sill back in the 80's. I understand the tradeoffs and why the military went with the m4, but the m16 was much better to shoot.
I love my Windham Weaponry A1 Government AR-15. I look forward to getting one of your H&R A1 versions. Also.... I have PSA lower that needs a 16" A1 CAR style upper. Hint, Hint.
I bought a Brownells complete A1 rifle years ago when Brownells had the Retro line of rifles. The Brownells A1 rifle was 99% period correct down to the smallest detail. The material the stocks are made out of is not the same material as the original M16's. I even got the Brownells Retro 4 power scope for mine. The Brownells Retro scopes are made by the same company in Japan that made the original Colt scopes for the M16A1 back in the 1970's I wanted to buy a Brownells 601 rifle but Brownells stopped making the retro rifles before I had the money to buy another. I seen this H&R A1 rifle in a couple videos last year from Shot Show and I waited all year for it to come out. It would be great to have a M16A1 clone rifle that has H&R on the receiver. I just hope it is as period correct as the Brownells Retro rifles were. What bothers me is PSA is going to be making these. I have bought a lot of AR rifles and AR parts over the years and PSA has the worst quality I have ever seen.
I love my Brownell's retro AR-10. I am curious if the H&R, or Fulton Armory is a better choice for an M16 clone these days, with the run from Brownell's being over. Personally I would love to have the M16A1, M16A2, the carbine, and the Airforce rifles, from H&R. I was too late for a Brownell's AR-15, too. So I was looking to Fulton Armory until this came about.
I agree. I think Brownells should have kept making their retro AR-15's, and AR-10's too. Fulton Armory makes retro AR-15's to order. They do at least an M16A1-clone, and a M16-A2 clone. I believe it cost about the same. You just have to wait 3-4 weeks for them to put it together for you. I believe they have been making them for years now. They do M14-clones as well those have a good reputation, as do the M1 Carbines that they build. So I imagine the AR's are also quite decent. I would love to see gun shops actually stocking the retro uppers, stripped lowers, and complete lowers, as well as rifles to boost sales, and incentivize the production of these rifles.
I cant wait for them to become available. Costs a little more than the Brownell rifles did. I hope they are closer to the $1200 than the $1500 range for the A1 clone. Kind of nice to hopefully be able to buy the H&R since that is one of the rifles that I carried. Looking forward to having a representative of each rifle I carried during my 25 years of service.
All the new AR's, so much for the affordable ar, but will they check the head spacing, and chamber- bbl lug go no go? So many problems with these things, I love my M1A-M14
Head spacing is done at the factory when the barrel extension is pinned into place. Not even a concern with a factory built rifle. Now if your going to barrel an upper yourself it wouldn't hurt to check to be on the safe side.
They make super small batches and you gotta get em fast. Finally got the 654 slick slide I wanted you gotta sign up for the back in stock notifications and get it immediately.
My only question is what took the industry so long to get to these faithful military issue clones? Demand there for decades. Bulk of AR production for years has been goofy logos on frankenbuilds.
back in the 80's when the A2 came out..........no one wanted the A1 stuff...........you could get a Colt pencil barrel 20" for a 100 bucks on Shotgun news...............lol
Of all the firearms I wish I could have, Would be my dad's Vietnam service rifle. But knowing the history of all that I understand I'll have to settle for a replica, Some day 👍
Carry handle is love, carry handle is life.
One of the best stories coming out of SHOT Show are the H&R ARs
H&R should also bring back their single shot guns.
But it's not really h&r, it's just a trademark now. Kind of like what polaroid was before the company was properly resurrected.
Confession: I've always liked the triangular handguards. Still trying to figure out why they got away from that shape. Also, the A1 barrel profile is awesome. Whatever you give up is worth the weight savings for most applications. "Retro" is relative. Maybe it's actually futuristic.
They went away from that shape because it required 2 seperate part numbers; one for left side, one for right side.
The A2 uses the same part for both halves of the handguard. From a logistics snd financial standpoint, it is a improvement.
They got rid of them because they rattle...this can get you killed on night patrol....
@@chadhaire1711 I don’t recall mine rattling. A lot of other sources of noise, but not the handguards as I recall.
@@wolfpack4694 Once they are taken off they will never be the same...always rattle...we always had to tape them shut....a pain to get off after a day in the hot sun....or super cold. The newer round ones dont. That was the real reason to get rid of them.....having less part numbers was a bonus but never the reason....that was some BS spread by fake poser Pete Kokales at SOF magazine...
Logistics.
The M16A1 is my number one favorite AR configuration, especially with the waffle mag. Also love the AR-9 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Why is PSA swallowing everything? It's like I go to sleep everyday and they buy up a dozen companies in the 8 hours it takes for me to recover my energies.
I get to watch it because I only sleep an adage of 4 hours 😴
JJE has opened its wallet.
🤔
I never liked the full-size ars in this style, but I'm with the 10.5" with I just can't decide between the 9mm or 5.56
I want an XM177. I never had the chance to buy a Troy one.
I can’t wait to buy one!!!
Pretty sweet.
That 723 is looking real nice.
Can't wait to buy the uppers
Brings me back to memories of being a young soldier back in the day. The days, months, and years when going through field exercises in hot, cold, and even wet conditions of snow, desert, and jungle environments. Cleaning them for hours through a whole day just to turn them in to the arms room so the day would end. These rifles will take the abuse of military service for decades. No matter how beat up the exterior they will fire no matter what. During field exercises these rifles would fire blanks and soldiers often neglect to clean them for days or weeks at a time. When firing service ammunition through them with proper lubrication they work flawlessly when you understand the weapon. Soldiers will clean and keep their weapons cleaned provided that an NCO will kick their ass to clean their weapons clean. Not very happy memories of cleaning of course but firing them was a joy.
I was afraid to hear his estimated MSRP on the 20" A1. Not all that bad honestly for a A1 H&R retro clone.
Honestly it shouldn't be more than $1,100 or so.. I was going to buy one of their receivers just a stripped lower to build my own but then they wanted $160 for it, that's too much.
What a great move to reintroduce these rifles . Especially if the Shorty is made available.
Cool.
My AR has a 20" barrel, like the rifle i qualified with at sill back in the 80's. I understand the tradeoffs and why the military went with the m4, but the m16 was much better to shoot.
I love my Windham Weaponry A1 Government AR-15. I look forward to getting one of your H&R A1 versions.
Also.... I have PSA lower that needs a 16" A1 CAR style upper. Hint, Hint.
Love me some psa.
So good.
That should actually have these in stock
...my M16 in Basic (June- August 1971, Ft Dix..A-3-3) was an H&R...that had a distinctive bluish grey anodizing
Darnit, I told myself I wasn't going to buy a gun this year.
I bought a Brownells complete A1 rifle years ago when Brownells had the Retro line of rifles. The Brownells A1 rifle was 99% period correct down to the smallest detail. The material the stocks are made out of is not the same material as the original M16's. I even got the Brownells Retro 4 power scope for mine. The Brownells Retro scopes are made by the same company in Japan that made the original Colt scopes for the M16A1 back in the 1970's I wanted to buy a Brownells 601 rifle but Brownells stopped making the retro rifles before I had the money to buy another. I seen this H&R A1 rifle in a couple videos last year from Shot Show and I waited all year for it to come out. It would be great to have a M16A1 clone rifle that has H&R on the receiver. I just hope it is as period correct as the Brownells Retro rifles were. What bothers me is PSA is going to be making these. I have bought a lot of AR rifles and AR parts over the years and PSA has the worst quality I have ever seen.
I love my Brownell's retro AR-10. I am curious if the H&R, or Fulton Armory is a better choice for an M16 clone these days, with the run from Brownell's being over. Personally I would love to have the M16A1, M16A2, the carbine, and the Airforce rifles, from H&R. I was too late for a Brownell's AR-15, too. So I was looking to Fulton Armory until this came about.
Amazing.. That 9mm I am drooling.. Wonder how the pistol brace rule will affect the configuration
Pistol brace rule has been thrown out by a Federal Judge in 2024.
Short runs??? Why? Just keep it production and it'll sell!
I agree. I think Brownells should have kept making their retro AR-15's, and AR-10's too. Fulton Armory makes retro AR-15's to order. They do at least an M16A1-clone, and a M16-A2 clone. I believe it cost about the same. You just have to wait 3-4 weeks for them to put it together for you. I believe they have been making them for years now. They do M14-clones as well those have a good reputation, as do the M1 Carbines that they build. So I imagine the AR's are also quite decent.
I would love to see gun shops actually stocking the retro uppers, stripped lowers, and complete lowers, as well as rifles to boost sales, and incentivize the production of these rifles.
I’m ready to buy one right now…but I have a feeling they will be VERY hard to obtain, and will probably be backordered most of the time.
They are hard to get, typically sell out in minutes as a 1-2 batches have already been released.
It is easier to by the complete lower, and the complete upper separately.
I was issued one in Basic Training. Ft. Dix 1983
When are you guys going to bring back the t223/hk93?
Does a modern upper fit the retro lower? My 71 sp1 with the interlocking screw forward hinge pin won't match with a new upper or lower.
I want the 9mm as an upper
I had an A1 in boot camp, closed out my career with an A1 in desert storm. I'm not sure I like being "retro" 😂
I cant wait for them to become available. Costs a little more than the Brownell rifles did. I hope they are closer to the $1200 than the $1500 range for the A1 clone.
Kind of nice to hopefully be able to buy the H&R since that is one of the rifles that I carried.
Looking forward to having a representative of each rifle I carried during my 25 years of service.
I actually came here to say exactly this. Im saving up my money for this, I cant wait. I wonder when they actually hit the shelves.
@@IslandSauce heck I would like to pre-order one...
Me too!!
Why are these never in stock?? Ive been trying to buy one for months now
Where can I get the M16A1? I want it. Take my money.
We should start #bringbackhandifrifle
All the new AR's, so much for the affordable ar, but will they check the head spacing, and chamber- bbl lug go no go? So many problems with these things, I love my M1A-M14
Head spacing is done at the factory when the barrel extension is pinned into place. Not even a concern with a factory built rifle. Now if your going to barrel an upper yourself it wouldn't hurt to check to be on the safe side.
H&R should do some c7 uppers!
I just wish they would keep more of their products in stock. The major hardware is always listed as out of stock. Kinda disappointed.
They make super small batches and you gotta get em fast. Finally got the 654 slick slide I wanted you gotta sign up for the back in stock notifications and get it immediately.
My only question is what took the industry so long to get to these faithful military issue clones? Demand there for decades. Bulk of AR production for years has been goofy logos on frankenbuilds.
You should put a stamp of Mattel on it.
If i get an AR15 id get that i like the old classics not the mew one so much i like the vietnam style
I want 1 so bad! but 2 rich for my wallet!😆
Now if you can find a firing range that will let you lay in the prone position..................
back in the 80's when the A2 came out..........no one wanted the A1 stuff...........you could get a Colt pencil barrel 20" for a 100 bucks on Shotgun news...............lol
Of all the firearms I wish I could have,
Would be my dad's Vietnam service rifle.
But knowing the history of all that I understand I'll have to settle for a replica,
Some day 👍
But why?
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