I just bought an original Nodak Spud XM177...It's only been fired once...the previous owner sold his whole collection,including a consecutively serial numbered lower receivers built into the one I bought and a M16 a1.....I was intending on building another one,but just stumbled upon the Nodak gun on Sunday!??.So I bought it!!
That is a super nice. Absolutely love it. I just pick up a Colt A2 upper about a month ago. Trying to find the right colt lower receiver without brake the bank is almost impossible. Even the newer ones are expensive.
Great Video! FYI the XM-177-E2 Flash Hider/Moderator was design to make the CAR-15 sound like an AK-47 by the use of Baffles inside the Muzzle Device that is why BATFE declared it a Sound Suppressor and many of the ones that Veteran purchased overseas had to be Registered under the NFA or be Destroyed. The XM177-E2 that survived combat in Vietnam and came back to the US were re-finished and put back into the inventory for Special Operation Units like Navy Seals, USMC Force Recon, US Army 75th Rangers Reconnaissance Company (RRC) and Special Forces just to name a few. The XM177-E2 Sound Moderator allowed this units to go behind enemy lines and if they needed to shoot someone the enemy would think it was someone using an AK47 which would give our guys time to get away. The XM177-E2 did stay in the Inventory of Clandestine Units till the mid-1990s when it was replaced by the SOPMOD M4 but there are USAF Security Units that still have have a few XM177-E2 in their Weapon Cages to this day! I was able to pickup a 11.5 inch M4-A1 1/7 twist Barrel that is a heavy barrel with a M203 cutout on it because the barrel is so thick and I have been able to get everything to build a NEO-XM177-E2 except the A1 Upper with M4 cutouts they are really hard to find because allot of people are making the Retro build because they are allot of fun to source the parts and put together but I had a JP M4 Upper so I am currently using it until I find the A1 upper but that barrel is as accurate as any 16 or 20 inch AR that I have but with 5.5 CAR-15 Flash Hider pin and welded it is a very nice shooter for any sort of Competition or House Clearing Exercise makes me miss my issue M4 from my time in uniform.
I picked up about 10 A1 grips when they were cheap. I put them on all my guns and think they are as close to perfect as you can get. Should have my XM build done once my form 1 goes through. I start that process this week.
Btw,a Hickock45 video brought me here. Just wanted to see a more indepth review. i searched xm177 and found your video. Well done ty for the accurate clone!
I saw one in the early 90s that looked exactly like this, but it had a polymer butt stock and it was made by eagle arms. maybe the hand grip had a finger grooves.
I never saw one like it, and it to me was one of the coolest looking ARs I have seen. Back in the 90s before the ban in my state this person sold it with a rifle bag and each pocket full of 30 RDs Mags and the mags was full of 223. This one could shoot both 556 and 223. I had one of the original red dot sights on it as well, the one you had to have both eyes open and it would super impose the red dot. Really cool and I have regretted not picking it up. But the one thing I see on these retro XM177 is this had the polymer butt stock where all the others had the collappable butt stock.
I have an E2 clone identical to yours. Funny thing is that it gets more attention at the range than my “techno cool” Mega Arms billet carbines! Invariably, someone always asks me about it! I love the simplicity of this rifle
It's an A2 profile lower, but given that getting an A1 or older profile semi auto lower is basically impossible without paying exorbitate prices I can't blame you. I think some places will reprofile A2 lowers though not sure on the cost
at least you can have one , I had to build a Colt 654 being in nj and cant have the moderator 😪 . the XM177 would have had the 6 hole shiny black hand guards
Are the current production flash moderators that bring the barrel length up to 16" longer than the original military ones? In other words, were the original military issue guns over 16" bbl if they had been pinned and welded?
There are several sources of xm177 faux moderator (flash hiders) for retro builds to bring your barrel to 16" or over when pinned and welded. The original military xm177s were under 16" (shorter moderator).
This is a very nice clone I’m sorry that you don’t have a complete grip. This grip looks like an AR 180 grip all Bakelite grip but. Someone cut off the sling attachment loop this would have been as issued to the troops with the loop cut off it would be a field weapon correct to some of the production may have even been retrofitted with the standard M16 grip in inventory at the colt factory as the loop was considered to noise for the Green beret, seals and lurps that were issued to them in South East Asia. But t tit on the front of the grip is right just sad to see the loop gone. And they were noisy.
@@pourindiesel because I just recently purchased a 16.5 inch barrel and a moderator together with the moderator it came out to 15.95 in if you round it up that 16in
Barrels and faux moderators are made by several manufacturers. I bought mine pinned and welded from Tony's customs. It comes in at over 16" oal (I have measured myself to verify). Don't assume you have the same parts or barrel as anyone else. DO NOT assemble a title 2 firearm without first receiving your stamped, approved form one.
Where did you get the muzzle break and what’s the length. I’m building somewhat of a clone with 11.5 length barrel. I want to pin and weld it so I can run the stock and not a brace.
I think it was the Architect Ludwig Meis Van Der Rohe who said "God is in the details." This 'clone' is ok if you don't care about the details. Quite inaccurate. Your' barrel profile is not correct and there was no crush washer behind the grenade ring. Ejection port door had a rectangular stop piece not a square and there was no tick mark on the safety selector on the right side. The delta ring vs slip ring is actually correct for the E1 and E2 variants. Yes, the slip ring was more prolific on the E1 but there are plenty of photos that show the E2's with the slip ring rather than the delta ring. The Colt teardrop forward assists were tapered unlike the one on yours. But the biggest flaw is the A2 profile DPMS lower receiver. Sorry to nitpick but if you are going to post something as a clone, you might as well represent with correct historical accuracy.
@@pourindiesel I don't need the attention like you do. However, this is as real as it gets if you need some correct reference material. th-cam.com/video/po715YGEzTY/w-d-xo.html
The A1 profile lowers are almost impossible to get without paying ridiculous prices now adays, and the difference is really minor(the rear reinforcements and a larger radius near the front pin hole is the only difference that I know of) so I don't really blame him.
I just bought an original Nodak Spud XM177...It's only been fired once...the previous owner sold his whole collection,including a consecutively serial numbered lower receivers built into the one I bought and a M16 a1.....I was intending on building another one,but just stumbled upon the Nodak gun on Sunday!??.So I bought it!!
The original receivers were actually marked "COMMANDO"
I didn't know that. The funny thing is i have a lower that says commando and it was the 44,000 made.
@JohnDoe-mt8rf that's awesome!
That is a super nice. Absolutely love it. I just pick up a Colt A2 upper about a month ago. Trying to find the right colt lower receiver without brake the bank is almost impossible. Even the newer ones are expensive.
Thanks for commenting! Good luck finding the Colt lower.
insightful video, thank you for your time.
Great Video! FYI the XM-177-E2 Flash Hider/Moderator was design to make the CAR-15 sound like an AK-47 by the use of Baffles inside the Muzzle Device that is why BATFE declared it a Sound Suppressor and many of the ones that Veteran purchased overseas had to be Registered under the NFA or be Destroyed. The XM177-E2 that survived combat in Vietnam and came back to the US were re-finished and put back into the inventory for Special Operation Units like Navy Seals, USMC Force Recon, US Army 75th Rangers Reconnaissance Company (RRC) and Special Forces just to name a few. The XM177-E2 Sound Moderator allowed this units to go behind enemy lines and if they needed to shoot someone the enemy would think it was someone using an AK47 which would give our guys time to get away. The XM177-E2 did stay in the Inventory of Clandestine Units till the mid-1990s when it was replaced by the SOPMOD M4 but there are USAF Security Units that still have have a few XM177-E2 in their Weapon Cages to this day!
I was able to pickup a 11.5 inch M4-A1 1/7 twist Barrel that is a heavy barrel with a M203 cutout on it because the barrel is so thick and I have been able to get everything to build a NEO-XM177-E2 except the A1 Upper with M4 cutouts they are really hard to find because allot of people are making the Retro build because they are allot of fun to source the parts and put together but I had a JP M4 Upper so I am currently using it until I find the A1 upper but that barrel is as accurate as any 16 or 20 inch AR that I have but with 5.5 CAR-15 Flash Hider pin and welded it is a very nice shooter for any sort of Competition or House Clearing Exercise makes me miss my issue M4 from my time in uniform.
Thanks for commenting!
I picked up about 10 A1 grips when they were cheap. I put them on all my guns and think they are as close to perfect as you can get. Should have my XM build done once my form 1 goes through. I start that process this week.
I am about to start my build. It should be really close to yours but i decided to SBR it. I'll get that done before the building starts of course ....
Great video sir! I enjoy these videos and really appreciate the detail you go into.
Hope to see more
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Btw,a Hickock45 video brought me here. Just wanted to see a more indepth review. i searched xm177 and found your video. Well done ty for the accurate clone!
Thanks for commenting and watching. Check my video on the xm177e1th-cam.com/video/unu7P3dEu5s/w-d-xo.html
Late to the party! Nice retro!
I saw one in the early 90s that looked exactly like this, but it had a polymer butt stock and it was made by eagle arms. maybe the hand grip had a finger grooves.
I never saw one like it, and it to me was one of the coolest looking ARs I have seen. Back in the 90s before the ban in my state this person sold it with a rifle bag and each pocket full of 30 RDs Mags and the mags was full of 223. This one could shoot both 556 and 223. I had one of the original red dot sights on it as well, the one you had to have both eyes open and it would super impose the red dot. Really cool and I have regretted not picking it up. But the one thing I see on these retro XM177 is this had the polymer butt stock where all the others had the collappable butt stock.
Ohhh Great video and new sub.
Love yours,n I have one they're a sexy bit of kit .I will try and send a picture of mine next week. Paul.👍
I have an E2 clone identical to yours. Funny thing is that it gets more attention at the range than my “techno cool” Mega Arms billet carbines! Invariably, someone always asks me about it! I love the simplicity of this rifle
Definitely cool! Thanks for commenting.
Fantastic!
It's an A2 profile lower, but given that getting an A1 or older profile semi auto lower is basically impossible without paying exorbitate prices I can't blame you. I think some places will reprofile A2 lowers though not sure on the cost
Beautiful build man!
Thanks!
dream gun for me love my a2 carbine but want a retro a1 carbine or xm177 to go with my retro a2 carbine
They are a cool gun!
at least you can have one , I had to build a Colt 654 being in nj and cant have the moderator 😪 . the XM177 would have had the 6 hole shiny black hand guards
Wish I could get this in a 350 legend or 6.5 Grendel. Great on white tail in the bush and swamp land
That thing looks great man. I’m trying to figure out the most affordable rout to building one. Can you give me any tips sir?
Lovely job. Very nice indeed 😍
Dude, very informative thank you.
Thanks brother, hope all is well!
Really Awesome 😀😊😀👍🏼
Thanks for commenting
Are the current production flash moderators that bring the barrel length up to 16" longer than the original military ones? In other words, were the original military issue guns over 16" bbl if they had been pinned and welded?
There are several sources of xm177 faux moderator (flash hiders) for retro builds to bring your barrel to 16" or over when pinned and welded.
The original military xm177s were under 16" (shorter moderator).
This is a very nice clone I’m sorry that you don’t have a complete grip. This grip looks like an AR 180 grip all Bakelite grip but. Someone cut off the sling attachment loop this would have been as issued to the troops with the loop cut off it would be a field weapon correct to some of the production may have even been retrofitted with the standard M16 grip in inventory at the colt factory as the loop was considered to noise for the Green beret, seals and lurps that were issued to them in South East Asia. But t tit on the front of the grip is right just sad to see the loop gone. And they were noisy.
How much money do you have invested into this rifle? I'm planning on building one of these for my reenatment.
I have roughly 1k in it.
@@pourindieselcan you drop links to where you got the upper and lower reciever, and stock?
Hey I really enjoyed the video I have a question for you would that be considered a short barrel rifles or is it right at 16 in.
Over 16" for barrel length. It is a title one firearm, not a sbr.
@@pourindiesel because I just recently purchased a 16.5 inch barrel and a moderator together with the moderator it came out to 15.95 in if you round it up that 16in
Barrels and faux moderators are made by several manufacturers. I bought mine pinned and welded from Tony's customs. It comes in at over 16" oal (I have measured myself to verify). Don't assume you have the same parts or barrel as anyone else. DO NOT assemble a title 2 firearm without first receiving your stamped, approved form one.
Where did you get the muzzle break and what’s the length. I’m building somewhat of a clone with 11.5 length barrel. I want to pin and weld it so I can run the stock and not a brace.
Tonys customs sells the whole 16" pinned and welded assembly.
Who makes the xm177e2 upper now . I have the lower just need the upper
Just curious what sling you are using in the thumbnail?
IIRC a mosin or sks sling.
what handguards did you use?
Any carbine GI style handguards. I think I bought these in a junk bin for like 5 bux.
@@pourindiesel all the junk bins I have seen only have the fat M4 HG's. I'll keep looking,
found some on GB, RRA 6 hole ones for cheap. got lucky.
Hey I have a question for you what is the length of those handguards for that 11.5 inch barrel
Standard carbine length
@@pourindiesel thanks
Not very clone correct because of your delta ring.
DPMS any good? I was thinking about one.
DPMS is now a product of Palmetto State Armory since they bought the name/ip.
The old Minnesota DPMS lowers and upper are pretty good IMO.
What’s the chest rig in the thumbnail? Thanks.
It's a bandolier available from numrich.
I think it was the Architect Ludwig Meis Van Der Rohe who said "God is in the details." This 'clone' is ok if you don't care about the details. Quite inaccurate. Your' barrel profile is not correct and there was no crush washer behind the grenade ring. Ejection port door had a rectangular stop piece not a square and there was no tick mark on the safety selector on the right side. The delta ring vs slip ring is actually correct for the E1 and E2 variants. Yes, the slip ring was more prolific on the E1 but there are plenty of photos that show the E2's with the slip ring rather than the delta ring. The Colt teardrop forward assists were tapered unlike the one on yours. But the biggest flaw is the A2 profile DPMS lower receiver. Sorry to nitpick but if you are going to post something as a clone, you might as well represent with correct historical accuracy.
Thanks for the feedback, I will present a more correct xm177e2 clone. Can you post a link to your clone video series?
@@pourindiesel I don't need the attention like you do. However, this is as real as it gets if you need some correct reference material. th-cam.com/video/po715YGEzTY/w-d-xo.html
Sheesh.
Wrong dust cover.
Good catch.
That’s a clone of the CAR 15 not the m16a1
Thanks for commenting
Lower is all wrong.
Will be corrected eventually.
He literally says in the video that it's not clone correct and explains how the actual lowers were different. Go away downer.
The A1 profile lowers are almost impossible to get without paying ridiculous prices now adays, and the difference is really minor(the rear reinforcements and a larger radius near the front pin hole is the only difference that I know of) so I don't really blame him.
Actually the lower is correct. Full fence was standard on the 629/639/XM177E2
@@MotherGunner really? they had A2 lowers on the XM177's? DoD must have finished that time machine... more to it than the fencing, bub