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- "We never landed on the moon." "Climate change is a hoax." "Vaccines are ineffective." Our culture feels riddled with anti-science sentiment and there's no one factor to blame or easy solution to address it. How did we get here and what effect is it having on scientists and their research? Dr. Paul Sutter breaks down the societal elements in play and interviews some of his contemporaries to get a sense of where we go from here.
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I was once called a science denier by a person that tried to convince me that men can get pregnant
Didn't you see the movie Children of Men?
Notice the word men and not man
to be fair, alot of people weaponize science for politics. Both on the left and the right.
a trans man can get pregnant but not a man.
You are what your DNA and chromosomes say you are. Period end of story!
@@joehartman87 i did and it was a woman that gets pregnant in it.
Being skeptical and criticizing other scientific works is not being anti science. But demanding people to accept authority arguments is anti science.
Yeah, this video is Orwellian propaganda.
@@toby7582 there's being skeptical and then ignoring peer-reviewed science in favor of listening to unqualified podcasters who get paid to lie to you. people literally believed fat was bad for you because the sugar industry paid a guy to say that. people think mmrv caused autism because the guy who published the report wanted to make his own vaccine to sell to them instead. these things aren't secrets that some "authority" is hiding from you. People simply choose to not believe in reality because it just feels better to them. The best way to find out if someone is telling the truth or not is to see where the money is coming from.
Let me guess, Earth is flat and Moses exists.🤷♀️😴
@@dyxlexorcist iF YoU CrItIcIzE My rEsEaRcH YoU'Re fLaT EaRtH
@@dyxlexorcist well, flat out telling people they SHOULD get vaccinated or others should without discussing any negative side-effects is a piece of sh!t.
You can’t really ‘believe’ in science, it’s information that’s there whether you want it to be or not
You can't really "believe" in science, but you can most certainly choose to "deny" science. Hence the problem.
Knowledge is a subset of belief. Beliefs can be true or false but you can also believe in someone or a group of people.
@@TheOiseau So what happens when a scientific prediction/explanation turns out to be wrong? Are we supposed to just go along with them mindlessly time after time just because they are wearing a lab coat and being condescending? What about funding and bribes to push certain medicines/solutions? Ever looked into that? It's not so black and white. Maybe if the 'scientific community' (whatever that is) showed a little humility when they were wrong, people might be a little more inclined to trust them. Instead all they do is influence left-wing type people to go around berating people for them. Weird.
@Wiegraf study epistemology and you'll find that knowledge is defined as a justified, true belief.
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I have a thesis:
People tend to surround themselves with similar minded people, and don't like to participate with someone, who is different (education level, intelligence, personal interest, political opinions etc.)
Friction between humans is natural.
No one wants to give up his idea of how everything is supposed to be.
I mentioned to a coworker about the near fly by of asteroid Apophis in 2029. He immediately jumped to end of the world conspiracies and said he just didn't want to talk about it. I think he was actually terrified about the subject.
He also never bathes and has a terrible body odor.
We are collectively becoming more ignorant. It is amazing how many people cling to the "One hypothesis was wrong, therefore science is never to be trusted."
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We do ourselves no favours by proping up frauds and liars. People who are corrupt and make their livings at the expense of others.
I’ll stop questioning what scientists say when people can no longer get rich and powerful off of pandemics, climate change, and over all public health (or a lack there of).
You flatearther you! How dare you question settled science?!
@@adrianmilitaru4967 Yes I’m the one that knows the real shape of the earth and it’s a good thing to because I would never be able to go to my mind numbing, underpaying job in the food service industry if I thought the earth was the wrong shape.
yeah I heard they're all gonna give up their wages to get you on board buddy
no you wont
Some people are absolutists; once they establish a belief, they can stop thinking.
nah They never thought at all and someone told them how to feel... AKA fox LOL
Most people. Except you of course.
"Unwillingness to accept scientific reality. " This quote from one of the interviewed scientists beautifully illustrates the type of condescending mindset that motivates many to distrust perfectly good and important science.
The problem here is that scientific reality generally isn't black and white. Rather, it's almost always complicated, nuanced, and evolves over time. Complicated, nuanced, and evolving makes messaging hard. Humans (even scientists) don't like hard. They prefer easy. As it so happens demagoguery is quite easy!
Take climate change science, an an example, and your average Joe Lunchbox non-science guy. Statement of fact: human activity is causing Earth's climate to change. That's good science. Unfortunately, Joe doesn't believe that scientific reality.
So, what does Joe know? Well, for one, Joe knows that 10 years ago "the scientific reality" was that life as he knew it on Earth would end in 10 years if every country didn't (immediately) implement new, draconian, economy destroying energy policies.
Joe also knows that new draconian, economy destroying policies were not implemented 10 years ago and, looking around, he's pretty sure the world hasn't ended ...yet.
Does Joe know anything else? As it so happens, he does. Joe knows that currently, "the scientific reality" is that that life as he knows it on Earth WILL end in 10 years if every country doesn't (immediately) implement new, draconian, economy destroying energy policies.
Hrmmmmm....
No no no don’t use logic scientist hate that. They prefer to be able to just look down on you and tell you to except everything they say and believe that they’re right because they have a degree. And as we know if you look through the history books scientist have of course never been wrong over and over and over again constantly being wrong about almost everything they say. They said the earth would be devastated by climate change in 10 years wrong, they said fat is bad for you wrong, they said salt is bad for you and that’s wrong as sea salt is not bad for you, they said drugs are a good long-term solution to health issues wrong, and they don’t even agree with each other on everything but in that instance how do they win. Saying that they have more science on their side than the other scientist in that instance they can’t use their degree like a Trump card. Typically they use their perceived credibility to just put down regular people so they can force their agenda on them because they have no real evidence of most of the things they say. Regular people know that humans have done some damage to the environment, but because of us have no evidence and scientist extreme insanity people don’t believe the insane things I say anymore and that is very good. Those people should be dragged out of the institutions they mooch off of and humiliated publicly and their careers ended.
It’s sad, Ars Technica used to do really good gaming videos about the creative process and production process behind a lot of great series. Now they’re just one more woke liberal mouthpiece in a sea of faceless progressive troglodytes.
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Didn't have my glasses on, and I thought the marine biologist had Princess Leia hair for a second, until I realized it was the back-rest on her chair.
love how he called all of the morons in the comment section. They were like "Hold my 8 beers, I can make myself sound even worse"
You’re calling someone a moron and you can hardly spell. You sure you aren’t just desperate to feel superior and have no other way of doing that other than pretending to be part of the self designated intelligent ‘science’ group?
Those who deny the safety and efficacy of a hastily released vaccine aren’t science deniers they’re deniers of ridiculous ideology that the science woke just say is science. They don’t decide what is and isn’t science. They act like they decide the truth and all others who dare to disagree are heretics. The sheer level of arrogance to decide that they are science is stunning. There are many opinions within science and one of the creators of the vaccine didn’t agree with the methods used to try to force it on others. There are risks to anything and those with a heart condition are more at risk with this.
@WatchMyVideoCovidTruthNoBiolab generally I like to see peer reviewed studies or pay attention to what most of the global science community agrees on. What so you base your feelings on? How much fox can influence your emotions without any proof? go ahead link me some facts. please.
Love Paul Sutter!
His voice is like butter.
Tnq so much bhai
Some of the biggest problems and motivators is not being addressed in this video, which is funding around research and it’s Impact, and the darker sides of science, and how any of it has changed or at least minimized/neutralized , and why people should believe it has. Even many people who do believe and fundamentally understand science have issues trusting or deciphering the core science and whether it is being misconstrued or used for nefarious purposes. Many conversations/debates I’ve had with people, this is the hardest hurdle to solidly get over. Even with explaining “the scientific community” and how it challenges and replicates findings (something which needs waaay more attention), it would still take a leap of faith because to the average person, they don’t know anything about it. Who are these people? What’s the scope of it? It’s all like shadow realm to most where you just have to believe it’s true and that’s part of the problem. And the lack of known and easy to find non-biased centralized access to the information behind research for those interested, outside of media is also lacking. So all this things combined make it very easy for people with personal interest and a big platform to attack the information and create doubt.
This
I worked in the medical field and it's bothersome to see things politicized and how social media pressures people to conform to things that are obviously false.
10:55 guy even makes the point that, "anti-vaxxers" are actually just pro-choice about vaccinations and are the most pro-science as they actually encourage others to do research while those pushing the vaccines ignore even what the CDC says about side effects.
"Even many people who do believe and fundamentally understand science have issues trusting or deciphering the core science and whether it is being misconstrued or used for nefarious purposes." no they don't. The issue is that politicians make policy decisions based on cherry-picked data and those policies have become engrained in our culture. Nearly every peer-reviewed paper discloses who is funding the study. On top of that, replicability of a study will confirm the initial findings and expand knowledge in the field. It's not hard to follow the money and see who has a conflict of interest and who doesn't. The guy wanting to sell his own measles vaccine is claiming the MMRV vaccine causes autism? Yeah, probably a huge conflict of interest, especially considering his sample size was literally like 6 lol. Dozens of papers clearly showing the tight correlation between excess carbon in the atmosphere and climate change (including suppressed findings from exon themselves)? Probably safe to say the science is sound there.
The issue is that people don't care because of the tremendous amounts of money those vested interests are spending to blast disinformation into people's faces.
What are the, "darker sides of science?"
"people who do believe and fundamentally understand science have issues trusting or deciphering...," Do you have a source for this?
"Who are these people?" Any accepted scientific study has a list of authors and their qualifications.
"What’s the scope of it?" Again, any accepted scientific study details it's scope and outlines it's finding with proof.
"Shadow realm to most where you just have to believe it’s true," Science demands that you not believe anything without proof. If you can't understand the documentation, that's on you.
"The lack of known and easy to find non-biased centralized access...," A lot of studies are paywalled. This needs to change.
excuses
Scientists try to impose their believes not the data on society and should not snubbing in social issue’s.
"Radical empathy".
Ok, fine... I'll try harder. Thanks for the pep-talk, Doc.
it's def super hard to deal with people who are so very smug in their ignorance.
I think it mainly comes from a lack of readability paired with publication of the material in news outlets. News sites can headline their articles how they want, but no way is anyone going to actually read the study/paper they're referencing, even if it may have gaps or holes.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Some people respond better to empirical evidencet, others to anecdotal evidence or authority figures. Anyway, people who try in vain when they're already underpaid have my respect for their dedication to making the world a slightly better informed place.
I think the key take away from your comment is that "...they didn't reason themselves into..."
It's why science-minded people are often called condescending. It's presumptuous to infer how someone reached their decision and dismiss them as being irrational. It may very well be the case with some, but others have found themselves in a feedback loop of fringe authority and confirmation bias that convinces them they're being rational and their position is well thought out.
Can we step back with data and awareness and see that? Sure, but I can't imagine having a positive conversation when starting off by telling someone that I know better than they do (even if I do).
I hate the people that ignore any study completely and get their "evidence" from a single digit of anecdotes. Especially when many studies are basically anecdotes but on a 1000x larger scale...
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Man I used to like this channel, now they can act like they have full dominion over science. People are denying science they’re denying your science. It’s your opinion not a fact no matter how much you want it to be. Having a degree isn’t the same thing as being right.
lol, The big cope and seethe of collapsing lies.
You know, to me the greatest argument for the flat earthers being correct wasnt anything a flat earther ever said about geography. It came from how scientists treat someone who has doubts about modern science.
Really? If someone stopped you in the street and said you're a murderer, you would stop there and argue with them and prove why they're wrong?
@@aeon_zero I see you've missed my point. But, to use your example: I would not argue with them. However, if I then spent millions of dollars making sure they werent allowed to say that then I could forgive someone else for suspecting something is wrong. Same if I worked to ban that person from social media, if emails of me conspiring with news outlets to make him look bad, tried to pass laws penalizing him for what he has said, or publicly wished horrible pain and death on him. Does it mean he's right? No. But again, I would forgive any outside observer for mistrusting me and wondering what my true motives are for abusing someone who believes something that is incorrect.
@@GusOfTheDorks so I haven't missed your point at all, I just don't happen to believe the most childish BS people come across on the nets. Back to reality, scientists do not have time to waste on people's delusions, like you wouldn't waste it on someone accusing you of some thing or other that is just in their minds. You are not banned on YT, a platform created by science that runs on science, the same science that allows me and you to be alive here today.
Find a something constructive to spend your time on, stop wasting your life on this BS.
@@aeon_zero Actually theres alot of things youtube does everything but ban you for saying. I should know, theres a fair few news channels I follow that completely lost their monetization and gets their videos hidden. And not for saying out landish things like "the world is flat," but for reporting on very uncontroversial things like "here are the symptoms of covid." And yes, that generates alot of mistrust when you are so desperate to discourage people from talking about "anti science" views that you punish people for even mentioning words like "covid" or "flat earth". Hell, Ive even seen the wikipedia box for flat earth pop up in videos where they just talk about geography.
And science doesnt allow people to exist. People were reproducing and living lives long before the institution we know as science. Now if you want to say science makes our lives easier, then ok. But let's not treat science as our creator.
@@aeon_zero Slave mind, trust the science.
Everything he said has real world examples, the science is funded by those who put you under house arrest for 2 years, ruined your business and livelihoods and are now telling you to eat bugs.
I hope you enjoy what’s coming to you bud, because you sure ain’t gonna doubt the “science” and “solutions” they’re gonna start shoving down your throat.
When Are You Gonna Get Around To Isolating This Lierus!?
"STILL WAITING"
"Trust the scientists! Nooo not those scientists!"
Respectfully, I’m not sure why you find that statement strange. It’s not about blindly trusting anyone, including any particular scientists. It’s about recognizing the effectiveness of the scientific process. This includes the process where theories are challenged by the scientific community and, over time, scientific consensus emerges. That is point. All of our greatest technological and medical achievements have come through this process.
Granted, this can be challenging in a crisis with a new virus. It takes time to fully test new approaches, and we have had to act before that. But it still is our best chance at getting the outcomes we want and avoiding those we don’t.
@@ShiningEyeBrigade Sure. And the process works better when differing opinions and results are not censored and silenced.
lol, exactly
I love the way you sum it up.
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which ones not? the creeps commenting at Fox news? lol come on now
we know what motivates anti science sentiment but they won't name it (religion)
If a scientist pushes back on the climate change hysteria then he loses his job. Why does someone lose their job when they challenge the woke science ?
Found the racist knuckle dragging science denier.
@@Bob-Fields Stop trolling me.
In the 1980s Exon hired scientists to perform environmental research - the scientists found that anthropogenic global warming was occurring. Why would scientists paid by a Big Oil company lie about their findings and hurt the company that hired them?
@@desdenova1 Tobacco Co's own doctors said that smoking didn't cause cancer in people.
@@Matlockization That was the cover up after the fact. Climate change denial is the cover up in this case: "keep using oil and plastic, everything's fine, nothing to see here!"
The public today dont care about science
I've been following this channel for a very long time. It has been my comfort place where I get to nerd out watching game-related content. I can understand if this is the way Ars Technica decided to move forward as more generic content would help pay the bills.
They once had really good videos on the making of video games, they are slowly becoming another liberal political mouthpiece. One great group after another falls.
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Gotta get some woke agenda in there, pays quite well i'd assume.
Physicist Robert B. Laughlin wrote:
It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity.
This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..]
It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.
Main articles: Pilot wave and De Broglie-Bohm theory
Louis de Broglie stated, "Any particle, ever isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous "energetic contact" with a hidden medium."
However, as de Broglie pointed out, this medium "could not serve as a universal reference medium, as this would be contrary to relativity theory."
Im glad a professor did this, but kind of wish there were commentaries/sound bytes from broader range of science fields. Thanks for this, no doubt its an important topic, albeit its hard to know how broad the audience needs to be. Flat Earther? really? OK. The fact that we see such denial of scientific process, is above anything a reflection on early education systems. Teaching children repeatedly the purpose of science, the plethora of scientific fields.
When will you update your knowlage? Science is not about concensus, money can buy concensus as we seen before.
which knowledge
This video helped me understand science deniers a lot more. I think further conversation would be benefitted by hearing multiple perspectives. This is such a juicy intersectional issue. How do address conflict of interest in particular fields? How do we address ethical issues in the past and present like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment? I think it would be helpful to give broader perspectives and recognize people's concerns. Politicization is a big issue. Knowing people's perspective and experiences could help solve the misinformation issue. This video makes me realize a lot of our division could be reduced with quality effective communication. Our perspectives and issues are complex, but I think talking to each other doesn't have to be.
They aren’t science deniers there deniers of these peoples ridiculous ideology that they just say is science. They don’t decide what is and isn’t science. They act like they decide the truth and all others who dare to disagree are heretics. The sheer level of arrogance to decide that they are science is stunning. There are many opinions within science and one of the creators of the vaccine didn’t agree with the methods used to try to force it on others. There are risks to anything and those with a heart condition are more at risk with this.
There's no such thing as "the science"...
My heckin sciencearino!
Chantard
Epic 4chan meme bro
@@zucced2087 sorry I don't browse r/4chan
For a second I thought that I was watching a government channel. Stick to video games…
Yeah, is Ars Technica trying to get government funding by pushing false information and propaganda?
So bizarre.
Stop using the word belief. Science isn't a religion. Science is demonstrable reality.
lol
Unless you can't question the science.
Belief is a perfectly valid word to use.
Knowledge is a subset of belief. Belief that has been verified. But it is still belief.
Something is wrong with some of this comments, must be harsh on you. Keep it up, it was a nice video
There is no absolute in science. A "denier" isn't somebody that just disagree with the consensus' opinion.
My response to any "denier" is "prove it".
the only reason science advances towards some approximation of reality is that we DO challenge models drawn from evidence. when a scientist makes a claim it is not for everyone else to prove he is wrong, it is up to the scientist to back up his claims.
This episode didn’t tell me anything useful
If you want to see why people deny science, just read some of the comments here.
And if you want to see people be arrogant pricks just read your comment. There’s a risk to every vaccine, you’re the one denying science.
The last minutes if this video making the point the you people try to do a propaganda for social issues. Bite me.
ok grandpa time for bed. you know the doctor said you may die of stupidity if you are up past 5pm
you tell us what they tell you to tell us
science & scientists have the longest experience in dealing with misinformation and thriving despite its prevalence, Excelsior!
wake up every day knowing you live another day thanks to science
In formula form, their logic is as follows: we know A implies B. But I don't like B, so I refuse to accept A.
Ars Technica: Where kiddy fiddlers work.
Those who experience the greatest measure of fear in the face of the seemingly insurmountable issues such as global climate change and pandemics will ofttimes opt for the defense mechanism of denial. Thus, with the bare faced lies perpetuated by anti-maskers and global warming deniers, it makes it increasingly difficult to implement proactive solutions when those who are only capable of reactionary responses to problems are clouding the issues with disinformation, hatred and anger.
I think you (Ars) need to make more of an effort to publicize these videos, they're really important for people to understand.
excellent message and delivery. Now.. to get those views up :/
And the award for gaslighting goes to this video. Keep up the good work.
Hysterical this comes from moniker couch potato! Maybe a 6th grade Science Education -maybe not
@@hualani6785 Probably a 6th grade American education, go easy on them.
PSEUDOSCIENCE ISN'T SCINECE.
Right off the bat you completely miss the reality of our times. Let's see if anyone who watched this sees the glaring obvious issue.
What? That you're a moron and no one knows what you are talking about?
The glaringly obvious issue is lack of funding when it comes to education in this country - seems to enable people like you with vague conspiratorial dog whistles.
%th graders know the answer. it's the 5th grades who are now 40+ who don't understand
religion
Slow clap, go science!
would've been interesting and informative to hear the proof that made the flat earther go back to the globe belief.....🤔
probably just found out that hydrostatic pressure turns everything into a ball after a certain size.
maybe he turned 12?
@@aeon_zero not likely as all are shown & conditioned into the thing since kindergarten and earlier.......
@@hwcidybz conditioned into what?
globe-ball -ism
having an education doesn't give a you green card to be an a -hole remember that.. scientist told us that smoking was good for you
So, industry did. The science was settled for a long time, and industry deliberately muddled the waters.
@@batrachian149 Remind me where the FDA department responsible for regulating human medicines gets most of its funding from again?
@@internetguy8075 lots of medical schools that doctors go through are OWNED by pharmaceutical companies.
They also send hot women into offices to push drugs with dangerous side effects.
Also, for a drug to be approved, he doesn't have to be better than existing drugs, it just has to be better than a placebo.
Etc. etc.
I left the medical field in America because of how corrupt and poorly run it is.
It's heart breaking and it's upsetting to see videos like this irresponsibly spreading false information and propaganda.
@@batrachian149 too complicated for these guys. It's THEY rule the world with lies and THEY get all the money. THEY are government, scientists, media, everything they don't understand. One simple issue for one simple mind.
@@internetguy8075 The FDA isn't the only health agency out there, bud. In Europe corruption generally isn't legal like it is in the US.
@4:40 - "Had a friend who was a flat earther and it was cool and we could still hang out." To do what? Smoke weed and party or other things that didn't require having any level of respect for him? Dude is obviously 1000x more chill that I am.
Is ars deliberate I mean so you can say look at my bad ars tech or look at the state of my ars tech
Man, talk about missing the mark entierly. Just the utter lack of humility or understanding of the other side is insane here. So just to get this straight, you make proclamations about the world around you (Many of which cant be checked without spending absurd amounts of money). You then want these proclamations to be used in making policies that will directly and drastically affect people's lives. And you are then upset when people question your motives and work? Excuse me? Are you insane? I couldnt do this and look at myself in the mirror but you do this and its somehow ok? No wonder no one trusts scientists anymore.
you don't need humility with facts... if yall would question your gods and your bible, you wouldnt be in the mental mess that you're in
Now do Covid.
Science of lies....
So as of the timing of my comment, it looks like this video made the rounds on conspiracy theorist and adjacent spaces first. As one of the interviewed suggests, empathy is important, as is not talking down, but I think what's unwittingly happening here is precisely that with this video. I know that this video is probably intended for the Ars audience, but I would imagine that many of the agitated commenters here certainly took the title and approach as dismissive of their point of view. Granted, unraveling beliefs centered in identity politics is probably beyond the scope of this short "insiders discussion" happening here, but when you post publicly for a broader audience, I think the kind of instinctual pushback you're seeing below is going to be inevitable.
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No the video is just incorrect on climate change. There’s a tremendous amount of science to back that if you look up the actual stats, and these are the same people who said the ice caps would be gone in ten years twenty years ago. They take temperature readings next do hot tarmac’s at airports. You are no matter how much you say otherwise or how much self righteously you talk about it you are not correct here. Mainstream scientists have been wrong about almost everything from saying fat is bad for you to their endless spouting off about climate change. Having a degree doesn’t make you right. Regular people are not stupid and they aren’t wrong because you read into what their motives are. They are the sound of mind, you guys are the i ones who want to believe something and don’t want your belief in scientists challenged. They are everything they accuse others of, being unscientific and dogmatic in holding to their fragile concepts. Scientists aren’t the arbiters anything, they don’t decide what is and isn’t science and they are some of the most corrupt people on the face of the earth. Really evil would be a better word. The more money they can push toward fake crusades the more money they make and the more necessary they make themselves. I’m blown away by the sheer staggering level of arrogance people who define themselves as the rational and scientific possess. In their world being wrong is just not something they think they are capable of despite how stupid they actually are. Education and intelligence seem less and less equated. They can’t even consider if everyone has a point, no because everyone else doesn’t have their useless degrees. They of course are right at all times and even if they use horrible methods to test and monitor everything they test and monitor it doesn’t matter. They have degrees therefore they are science and these poor pathetic commoners need to be told what’s good for them and how they can never be right about anything. We’d bet our funding on it, a good portion of which comes from those hard working commoners who think they should get a say in anything. We can assume their motive is their weakness and our is our ethical and scientific diligence despite clearly being the scum of the earth.
One of the only good things that could come from the pandemic is hopefully that faith is lost in mainstream academia and the media and that those people are devastated as much as possible. They deserve it. Would so much loss not be in vain, loss that the intellectual elite have added to. They are responsible for genocide from the terrible food science they hand out and trick people into using their perceived authority and mocking anyone who disagrees and the massive aggravation of the pandemic outcomes that they created. They are horrible people and hopefully will not remain protected in their gilded towards and for once pay for being so savagely wrong and corrupt for what seems like eons.
Here’s an interesting link but hey it’s all just all conspiracies if it doesn’t come from the accepted people who decide all, because anything that isn’t said by the mainstream dogmatic science community is a conspiracy and anything they say should be accepted without question and if you do question it you’re a far right wing yokel and we need no reason other than that to dismiss your threat to our paychecks and authority.
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Wernher von Braun, the top government head who established NASA, exposed it all as a lie for it is written on his tombstone: "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork". - Psalms 19:1. That is why rockets go horizonal as they approach the firmament. He knew there was a firmament above us, and that God put it there. I believe he was trying to make peace with his Creator, after lying all his life and deceiving the world. This means globe earth is a lie and there is no outer space. That is why there was never a moon landing in 1969 and has never been ever since. In the 1970's and 1980's America was supposed to have permanent city dwellings on the moon by 1999. That was why there was a television series called 1999. What happened mate?
I already explained why von Braun chose that epitaph. But actually, even if he had flipped his lid late in life and become a flat Earther, that wouldn't prove the Earth is flat, would it? Isn't the Earth itself the final arbiter of its own shape? One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat.
And about those predictions of Moon bases: what happened is that reality intervened, as it often does. They also predicted cities under domes and flying cars by our time. The best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft a-gley.
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Without a doubt, wicked, satanic occultists control America and were behind the coronavirus deception. What are the odds that over a 3-week period of time during the height of the pandemic, from 28 March to 9 April 2020, that during each of those three weeks, 6.6 million people would lose their jobs each and every week? The evidence is seen below from New York Times and CNBC headlines. Also, what are the odds that a bill to enforce ID tracking was H.R.6666 and Bill Gates Patent for this, his health empire, Luciferase, Patent WO-2020-060606 Unemployment Ranks Up by 6.6 Million as Coronavirus Hits ... May 28, 2020 - Jobless claims now exceed 16 million as shutdowns from the coronavirus pandemic widen and problems with getting benefits persist. US weekly jobless claims double to 6.6 million - CNBC 2 apr. 2020 - Initial jobless claims surged to more than 6.6 million last week, the Labor Department said Thursday. · That brings the two-week total to about ... U.S. weekly jobless claims report totals 6.6 million - CNBC 9 Apr. 2020 - US weekly jobless claims jump by 6.6 million and we've now lost 10% of workforce in three weeks ... Jobless rolls continued to swell due to the ...
The previous question is for you who is running this video...which is a lie
And you, an astrophysicist, explain without lying, if you can, how the vortex (Storm)🤣on Jupiter can travel along the same line for 300 years without being mechanically trapped..
I agree. But you also need to recognize that as soon as government money gets involved, science begins losing credibility.
Need I reference the Mann hockey stick? Need I reference "hide the decline"? And don't even get me started on the pandemic.
I would argue the exact opposite. As long as government money pays for it and not oil, cigarette, military, sugar (,...) industry that makes it more trustworthy to me.
Damn it’s almost as if the Mann graph has been redone multiple times by the authors due to changing and expanding datasets. I would loooove to see your expert analysis on why the Mann graph is unreliable.
Sidenote, it’s pretty funny that you don’t recognize yourself as being exactly the problem that this video is addressing
@@Yogurt4655 how am I influenced by government grants?
@@AnnaDamm were you not alive during the pandemic? How anyone could live through that mess and come away from it with the opinion that government influence _increases_ credibility is beyond me.
"I am right. I am an expert. You are not allowed to question. No opinions allowed." -This guy
Hey man can you point out the time stamp in which he said that please
Are you anti-science? Because this guy IS science. Scientists are science. Not fallible human beings
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Didn't watch the video, commented anyways- This guy
Now kiddo, opinions aren't always facts. People can't decide what a fact is. I bet you didn't even watch the video.
Unsubscribed - science is a process, not a god to be 'believed in'
science aka accepted establishment opinions that protect whoever is funding the "research"
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@@batrachian149 cope
I usually watch this channel's video game videos, but this video about science denial is pretty good.
How can we trust scientist, when they don't even know what is a woman?
Come on, that's not fair. It's not like they're a biologist...
Oh, wait...
A miserable little pile of secrets!
Scientists are working towards that answer. You're just sticking to preconceived notions.
@@cassidy8307 I'm a scientist working towards defining what a woman is...
*Adult Human Female*
There you go... Settled.
Go play with your blocks. Adults are talking.
This is a piece of propaganda. Let people ask questions, even if they seem outlandish - the truth isn't afraid of being questioned. Science isn't about censorship or consensus. Science is a dirty and confrontational process of asking questions in the most logical and unbiased way possible to get closer to the truth.
Well said. I don't like the "This is a piece of propaganda." part, even if it's how I felt watching it. But the rest is so good that I'm stealing it.
Science is never afraid to answer questions. That's the purpose of science.
Uneducated, misinformed or ignorant people don't like the answers though.
Random dumbasses deliberately muddying the waters is not part of science.
Where does this video state not to ask questions?
I can’t even take you seriously when you use such an absurd term. Nobody denies the existence of science
"Covid didn't come from a lab"
No. We're not doing this here.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter lmao what kind of Karen response is that 😄
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter It seems that's the whole point of the video.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter no, LET'S do this right here. You believe China over your own lying eyes?
This is literally just propaganda
Wait, should I stop using leeches to cure my alcoholism?
You're a moronic dweeb obsessed with video games. Your assumption of propaganda is meaningless and so is your existence.
@@animalhouse8849 and that is exactly how I know this is propaganda. . .this is the only response you get from those that are brainwashed by it. . .name calling and absolutely devoid of facts. . .
@@animalhouse8849 hey, interesting choice of profile pic, considering that character is supposed to be the lamest in Rugrats.
We don't misstrust science, we misstrust the scientist, like you, bougth and paid.
It's time to take your meds.
Your car was built by engineers.
Wow. 🤡🌎💩
Can something be produced from nothing?
Define: Produce, something and nothing
I fully agree with what is said in this video.
Except for the evolution thing. Let's just put an asterisk on that.
So you don't, then.
@@batrachian149 It's a joke lol
@@snowballeffect7812 Jokes are supposed to be funny
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Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools - Romans 1:22
#TrustGODnotScience
That's a good one.
everything is explained in the quran and hadiths, brozzer.
i.e. comets are spears thrown at jinns trying to reach jannah.
#exmuslims #oicremoveblasphemylaws