The danger of science denial - Michael Specter

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    Vaccine-autism claims, "Frankenfood" bans, the herbal cure craze: All point to the public's growing fear (and, often, outright denial) of science and reason, says Michael Specter. He warns the trend spells disaster for human progress.
    Talk by Michael Specter.

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  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Michael makes an excellent point. It's time to speak up about science denial & pseudoscience that plague our cultures. It's time to take the gloves off, and start public shaming of people who promote magic thinking & superstition in congress, the media, school and personal interaction. That might sound rude, but it's really a counter to the rudeness of dissing science. We should also lobby for teaching critical thinking & science in early grades of school. Call it The Enlightenment 2.0!

    • @reemashuko
      @reemashuko 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but I don't think we need to shame people for it. That's a little harsh!

    • @Ledge728
      @Ledge728 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It might be but it's really needed​@@reemashuko

  • @breadstick4458
    @breadstick4458 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, ten years on, and he was right. Of course he was right then but now it’s eerily prophetic

  • @Itzcozamahlotl
    @Itzcozamahlotl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree so much with him and Ive always had the same issue where I feel like I am the only one who would ever time machine forward.

  • @DEEjayTOE
    @DEEjayTOE 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many graduate students are likely to turn in their Principal Investigator (PI) knowing that this would dash their hopes of earning a Ph.D.? How many post-docs would do the same, throwing away their chance for a faculty appointment? How many assistant professors would risk receiving tenure by outing a colleague? And how many PIs would be willing to wade into a controversy by bringing charges against the very same peers who review their publications and grant proposals?

  • @hooblahman
    @hooblahman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing TED Talk. Thank you Michael for taking a very important and much needed stance on this issue. This is something our entire country needs to hear.

    • @brianboeing2586
      @brianboeing2586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice to see how he forgets to mention herbicide use with GMO's, and this is what almost every GMO is for, growing and producing with poisonous application. I studied molecular biology into graduate school, so I understand the topic.

  • @tutentDotCom
    @tutentDotCom 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (cont 1) happening while individual scientists said it was. I've been educated as a physicist, yet I've listened to testimonials from a large number of parents specifically pinpointing changes in their children's behavior right after the child was vaccinated and this leaves me with questions I can't answer. Most parents I've talked to blame the mercury components in the vaccine. While I'm aware that while certain chemicals are harmful when separate (chlorine gas and sodium metal) (cont 2)

  • @andrewzuo86
    @andrewzuo86 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "All vitamins do is make your urine darker"
    "Putting vitamin A into rice"

    • @brianboeing2586
      @brianboeing2586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy has never studied synergism, and decides not to mention herbicides and other inconvenient facts.

    • @brianboeing2586
      @brianboeing2586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am a science teacher, agree with many of his points, but he is so arrogant.

    • @caitlinwhatthefrick2361
      @caitlinwhatthefrick2361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah to give starving children and poor people some nutrients.. many Americans already get enough vitamin A..

  • @owenkeller2748
    @owenkeller2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sure. I disagree with the concept of calling critics “deniers”. It’s petty and anti-intellectual.
    Anybody can give an example where scientists were right and critics were wrong but there are also plenty of examples where scientists were wrong and they needed the criticism.
    Science needs critics. Those critics are crucial to the method both in the hypothesis forming step and in the repeatable results step. The movement to label science critics as “deniers” smells of politics. Get the politics out of science. Stop calling people who doubt or question or challenge scientific claims any putrid names. Instead call them wonderful sources for your next hypothesis.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Science-Denial is literally eroding Society like barely anything else.
      Not just in its most crystalized and clear form; Flat-Earthers; but just in general:
      This is all so problematic and damn-good Reason to support Science-TH-camrs,
      who right now try to fight back against Myths and Misinformation... and Bigfoot...

    • @sithwolf8017
      @sithwolf8017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So saying pathogens and gravity don't exist is suddenly considered "criticism"? Buddy there's a stark difference between being critical/skeptical and outright ignoring hard evidence that has been repeated for centuries or even millennia.

    • @JK_JK_JK
      @JK_JK_JK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sithwolf8017 What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

    • @JK_JK_JK
      @JK_JK_JK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@loturzelrestaurant What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

  • @HughJack-st9zc
    @HughJack-st9zc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's intriguing to consider how some people reject scientific advancements and discoveries. I do comprehend where mistrust regarding things like immunizations comes from. Many scientific concepts are very challenging to comprehend, especially without knowledge in such subjects. People then consult sources that offer clearer, but occasionally inaccurate, explanations. Even so, it doesn't excuse the spread of these false beliefs since, as Michael Specter in the film pointed out, science denial has detrimental effects on the general well-being of society. We owe it to ourselves and everyone around us to uphold the truthfulness and integrity of the principles we choose to support.
    I would like to just give an example how Ethics and Vaccine denials are connected. Because vaccine refusal can have significant ethical repercussions, ethics and refusal to get vaccinations are intimately intertwined. People who reject the scientific consensus on the safety and efficacy of vaccines do so because they are misinformed or hold unsupported ideas, which is known as vaccine denial. Numerous concerns, such as risks to the public's health, personal harm, and societal inequities, might result from this.
    First and foremost, refusing vaccinations might result in outbreaks of diseases that can be avoided, which can be especially dangerous for vulnerably disposed people including children, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems. In addition to endangering individuals, this has wider repercussions for public health, including rising healthcare expenses and stress on healthcare institutions.
    Second, people who are refused access to vaccines that could save their lives because of false beliefs or inaccurate information may suffer harm. This may result in needless agony and even death. Third, vaccination denial can exacerbate social inequities by disproportionately impacting groups who are marginalized and underserved and may not have easy access to reliable information or resources for healthcare.
    On the other hand, advocating vaccination and respecting the scientific consensus on vaccinations can encourage moral judgment and behavior. This entails understanding the potential dangers and advantages of vaccines, making decisions based on data, and ensuring that everyone has fair access to vaccines.
    Therefore, it is crucial to encourage scientific literacy and critical thinking abilities in order to support people in making informed vaccine decisions and to combat the risks of vaccine denial. By doing this, we can encourage moral behavior that is advantageous to both individuals and society at large.

    • @SosoTupou
      @SosoTupou ปีที่แล้ว

      I really like how you mentioned the ethical repercussions that vaccine denial can be connected with. During the pandemic we saw a lot of people who said my body my choice in regards to refusing to get the covid vaccine, or those who argued for their "right" to not wear a mask during mandates and so forth, but it seemed that in all of those arguments what was missing was the right of our society as a whole to be protected, kept safe, and to have the health and goodness of us as a collective preserved as much as possible. I remember some of the viral things being shared on social media at the time and one that stays with me even today was a post basically asking what people did before masks, vaccinations etc. and one viral reply being that they died. You also brought up some interesting points about where mistrust of large scientific organizations may stem from and I thought that it was interesting to see the role you feel medical literacy (or illiteracy) may play in that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @JK_JK_JK
      @JK_JK_JK ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

  • @mkwarlock
    @mkwarlock 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The truth delivered in an entertaining and comprehensible manner. Congratulations.

  • @harpake
    @harpake 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is saying that dietary supplements have been shown to have no real effect, not that vitamins don't work.

  • @CraigFine
    @CraigFine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, this video has never been more relevant than today with regards to the Corona Virus.

    • @gabrielagariglio
      @gabrielagariglio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you see the comments on Bill Gates add about a vaccine development? It’s madness. People think they will be “chipped” or killed by it for pupulation control, then Illuminati will take over humanity with 5G technology and bring up the apocalypse.

  • @TylerMontana
    @TylerMontana 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    so the message this guy delivers is this: Don't live in the now, the present is not good enough. We need to progress more. We live in the best times of mankind but it's still not good enough. Don't eat vitamins they don't work. You can only be happy in the future.

  • @deektedrgg
    @deektedrgg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because the USA has much lower quality standards than the EU. Just because something gets banned doesn't mean it's forbidden. Most food, hell most "organic food" around here still has some GMO stuff in it. GMO stuff the EU accepts.

  • @CaseyFriday
    @CaseyFriday 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Specter isn't looking at the problems of GM food that actually matter. Case in point: Google the NPR story "Cornstalks Everywhere But Nothing Else, Not Even A Bee". That's how "harmless" GM food is.

  • @lequebecois2
    @lequebecois2 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    what we dislike is the lack of transparency from the system.

  • @sutematsu
    @sutematsu 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree that TED would do well to cite the sources mentioned in the videos. I have seen these studies and know that what he says is true, but having the list of them at our fingertips would be great.

  • @Justpooinabush
    @Justpooinabush 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The EU still hasn't banned GM food though, and that is the prime argument. If there were such 'convincing' dangers, there would be no doubt more of a controversy amongst bioengineers, but there isn't.

  • @musicmathieu
    @musicmathieu 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    healthy skepticism - we need more of it

  • @EternaLing
    @EternaLing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The same logic applies to COVID-19 vaccines. Can people share this video to those anti-vaccine people out there? 🤓

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Science-Denial is literally eroding Society like barely anything else.
      Not just in its most crystalized and clear form; Flat-Earthers; but just in general:
      This is all so problematic and damn-good Reason to support Science-TH-camrs,
      who right now try to fight back against Myths and Misinformation... and Bigfoot...
      Please support them hard.

    • @JK_JK_JK
      @JK_JK_JK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@loturzelrestaurant What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

  • @imadnemeir9455
    @imadnemeir9455 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    One need to set priority in this case here. The question isn't just about test tube food or not, it's about the quality of life vs. life itself.
    My priority is to life itself. If I have the option to feed millions of people for a very low price, why would I need to work against it?
    If someone doesn't want to eat test tube food, he can always have that option, but what I am against is looking at genetically altered food as if they are a disease that needs to be purged.

  • @Dgfrmxon
    @Dgfrmxon 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:18 what? Fish oil is taken because studies shows that we're usually deficient and it has benefits. What the hell?

  • @kaiheffner441
    @kaiheffner441 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A voice of reason. Unfortunately, these people are becoming increasingly rare.

  • @thatfox1
    @thatfox1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because the level in the supplements is far lower and also, for what you buy, the price is extortionate. Putting vitamins in things like rice and potatoes is actually relatively cheap.

  • @kallistiX1
    @kallistiX1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree about the vaccines but hygiene does not give us more disease or allergies than it prevents. The real problem is how hygiene is implemented, as you said, too much or too little is the problem and nearly all the so-called super bugs are the result of one or the other. Just wanted put that out there.

  • @Kevinhillcrest
    @Kevinhillcrest 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's because the European Union is ignorant of the side effects and that scares them.

  • @PoweredByTheHaters
    @PoweredByTheHaters 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    people say there's a correlation between gmo and autism. And in some cases diabetes and obesity. but there's no evidence to show causation. I really havent looked into it, but from what i understand the "correlation" is not a definitive correlation, but i guess there's enough evidence for people to start studying and looking into it.

  • @eurohim
    @eurohim 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, fish oil has shown to actually not do what they thought it did which is decrease the risk of cardiovascular disease.

  • @tutentDotCom
    @tutentDotCom 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assuming you're not a toxicologist yourself, then you have no objection to drinking some yourself, right? I'm not making fun of you, I'm suggesting you have enough sense to know mercury is dangerous. These parents are no different. You don't need to be a toxicologist to know better, or even to ask if the material is questionable. And you're absolutely right. What I've said is anecdotal (biased if you prefer). I'm just suggesting that "maybe" Spector's answer might not help the issue.

  • @shri03992
    @shri03992 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't fully agree with him, but yes, we shouldn't deny science we should question it until all the questions are answered.

  • @andrewzuo86
    @andrewzuo86 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    First: "difference BETWEEN taking vitamins" not "difference FROM taking vitamins".
    Second: Of course the body needs them, that's why they're called vitamins.You could argue that they're some vitamins that have unhealthy versions like one of the vitamin B's, but most vitamins are clinically proven to be beneficial, some of which have been featured in numerous TED talks.
    Third: He does not say 'some vitamins', he just says 'vitamins'. This includes vitamin D, E, A, and all other variants.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Food shortage? or people abundance?

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did not watch the entire video then because he said supplements are useless. 9 : 45
    It is not without a reason that organic food tastes better, looks better and is better for you because it grows properly.
    I took supplements for my joints and they got better.
    I took supplements for my eyes and my sight improved.
    I took other supplements and my nose that I could not breath through for 30 years cleared up.
    So anyone that says supplements are useless, then wants to put them in food, has issues.

  • @leosmel
    @leosmel 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you mean "people who don't suffer from nutritional supplements"? Because if you do, then, unless you are the TED speaker, we can't be sure that's what he meant, right?
    And how does a poor person in Africa or anywhere benefit from vitamin E enriched rice and not from taking nutritional supplements?

  • @TLPIC777
    @TLPIC777 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think that then try taking 1000mg and see what happens - or even 500mg for that matter. The idea that vitamins are just a placebo is beyond stupid and I am not what I would consider a health freak. I've seen the results. Vitamins and nutrition make a huge difference and anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know anything.

  • @Justpooinabush
    @Justpooinabush 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is true that privately funded studies are more likely to be successful than non. However, as the number of studies looking at one particular topic increases, there arises an increase in correlation or a decrease. This is known as the decline effect and is what you see when companies fund acupuncture, supplement, paranormal etc studies, the effect size decreases. With GM the correlation has mostly increased. The french study you mentioned however is HEAVILY criticised, don't act so innocent.

  • @kahlocore
    @kahlocore 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have autism, and it infuriates me when I hear people like Jenny McCarthy spout their ignorance. My condition is nobody's fault, and when people try to impede progress because they refuse to accept the truth, it doe absolutely nothing to help people like me.

  • @Skinnymarks
    @Skinnymarks 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what I understand is that there is little proper research on both topics. I see no reason why there should be any mercury in vaccines. I'll have to do some research on GMOs to see if there is any proper research on the subject.

  • @docmanic1
    @docmanic1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is said that the most dangerous lie is the one that is almost true. It becomes very difficult to identify the deception when it is disguised with facts taken out of context. So it is with this man's lecture. He says polio is eradicated thanks to the polio vaccine, but fails to mention that at the same time polio died out, North America stopped using DDT as a common household pesticide. Nor does he mention that before the chemical revolution, there was, in fact, very little polio.

  • @sutematsu
    @sutematsu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason he doesn't cite during the talk is that your method isn't helpful for the people in the audience. If he attempted to cite all his sources they would be able to see all the works cited, but he can't keep that slide up forever, and it's likely a long list that no one has the time to write down. I'd suggest a different format: perhaps it's handed out with the program (so people can take it home) or something similar. And def cite sources when it's posted on TH-cam.

  • @leosmel
    @leosmel 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking multivitamins mostly only darkens your urine (10:07), yet putting vitamin E into rice (12:55) prolongs people's lives? What part did I miss here?

  • @Kombaiyashii
    @Kombaiyashii 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going back to my first point. We have to see who are the people that are 'heavily criticising' the study and look to see their politics. At any rate, it reinforces my initial premise that we can't take 'science' blindly on what people in white coats are telling us. We unfortunately have to delve deeper to see the integrity of those involved and devoting a talk to 'science denial' isn't doing the public service without addressing this point.

  • @sowhat4theword
    @sowhat4theword 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I think he meant was with the words "All vitamin pills/other do is make your urine darker"
    I knew that before the beginning of the video that taking vitamin pills does nothing beneficial for you other then making your urine darker and he probably just expected everyone to have that knowledge too.
    Its miscommunication on his part not mine.
    He communicates very ineffectively in the video and with out prior knowledge you would be confused or misinterpret his meaning....and mine.

  • @Quintinohthree
    @Quintinohthree 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biology fail:
    Bacterium: single celled prokaryote lacking mitochondria and chloroplasts but having a cell wall.
    Animal: usually multi celled eukaryote having mitochondria but lacking chloroplasts and cell walls.
    Guess which one of these you are. I've seen my cells, and I know I'm the latter.

  • @sowhat4theword
    @sowhat4theword 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think it was obvious but you should know that there is a difference from taking vitamins the body doesn't need to adding an ingredient to a food which already has a scarcity of healthy nutrients....

  • @ericX97
    @ericX97 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, this is not a fallacy. Second, the quality of Human life is determined by science, and also our ability to survive cataclysmic events

  • @keltzar1
    @keltzar1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He says these are the best times in humanity because all other times are further in the past when science hadn't progressed as much. He's saying that fifty years from now we will likely be living in the best time period that humanity has ever witnessed.

  • @EP3mentalist
    @EP3mentalist 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if a correlation is found, correlation does not prove causation and that is what people need to learn, there is a difference. For example, if there is a correlation between an increase ice-cream sales and inncrease in shark attacks say, there is no causation between the two. Both increase in summer, as the weather gets hot more people eat ice cram and swim in the sea, that simple.

  • @tutentDotCom
    @tutentDotCom 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incorrect, while it HAS been around, the frequency of occurrence is much greater today beyond the explanation of only now being diagnosed. And that's the question. Why? If malaria was suddenly breaking out all over the world again, wouldn't you think that increase would need to be understood? Or should we be content to say it's increasing because it's being diagnosed more? Your statement might have worked 10 years ago, not today. It oversimplifies the problem.

  • @agafaba
    @agafaba 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldnt say ever will, every new vaccine cures something we havent already avoided with better sanitation.

  • @Izquelion
    @Izquelion 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure about this but I think it has to do with how your body absorbs the nutrients: most of the vitamin A in a pill goes to waste because your body cannot process it fast enough, unlike what would happen with rice rich in vitamin A. Think about how fast one pill is processed in contrast to a whole meal. Again, do not take my word for it, but I think this makes sense.

  • @TylerMontana
    @TylerMontana 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the world is neither flat nor round. It is an ellipse. But if you really want to break it down. It isn't even that, cos if you take a closer look you see mountains, valleys. So it can't be an ellipse. So what is it? Atoms? But then again... it's just letters we have agreed to give meaning to.

  • @voldemortqwe
    @voldemortqwe 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delivery can help convince those who currently don't believe in what he's saying. Ethos has as much power as Logos. It's sad, but true.

  • @IstasPumaNevada
    @IstasPumaNevada 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Increasing food production won't solve starvation. We've been increasing food production for decades and all we've got is an ever more quickly increasing population and more starving people than ever.
    Food research is important, but without a leveling of population growth (and a more equitable global economy) we won't ever have human hunger down to minimum feasible levels.

  • @TheElectricFred
    @TheElectricFred 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Rowe isnt a scientist either.
    But he has his own TEDxTalk where he challenges the government AND the people on the unemployment problem in the US and how our notions of what is right and wrong might be well... wrong

  • @Uhmu
    @Uhmu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as i know there are no studies that show that it's dangerous to consume gmo's.

  • @Gollywog
    @Gollywog 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What he says about Gm foods - i've been saying that to my friends for ages. Everything we eat has been GM.

  • @williamwilson6499
    @williamwilson6499 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish he would've mentioned something about getting the women of the poorer nations in the world off the animal cycle. So many of our problems are related to just too many people.

  • @PierrePericard
    @PierrePericard 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a problem of biological absorption rate, when you take food supplement the absorption rate is usually below 10% whereas it is nearly 100% when absorbed in food. Moreover, nutriment malabsorption can cause multiple "uncomfortable" side-effects (diarrhea,...)

  • @Quintinohthree
    @Quintinohthree 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It makes a big difference to have good nutrition, but it doesn't make much of a difference when you're getting slightly more than you need of a specific nutrient. Taking a gram of any given vitamin on top of your required amount won't give you much effect, and if it does, it's going to be negative.

  • @JeffForssell
    @JeffForssell 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If GMO is good for us, LABEL it so we can SEE that the people who choose to use it thrive as well or better than others OR worse than others.
    If the producers were sure of the value, they'd be proud to label their products GMO.

  • @ReiperX
    @ReiperX 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really? You'd rather have Polio than have progress?
    Without us getting rid of things like Small Pox and Polio, we probably wouldn't be where we are today because we'd still be struggling to ensure that we have a living legacy, and many of the people making these progresses would likely be dead.

  • @geekgroupie42
    @geekgroupie42 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    they're still working on that one. there is couple of reasons why it's getting more common and that is population size and diagnosis.

  • @anthonyjiang1787
    @anthonyjiang1787 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His argument for GM food is that it can be good. He fails to acknowledge that there has not been enough tests on it and that most of the GM food makes crops resistant to pesticides which must be continuously sprayed. He fails to acknowledge that after spraying the crops with so much pesticides, insects gradually become resistant to it. He fails to acknowledge that we need the foods that contain those pesticides. I can understand how GM food can be good, but when companies like Monsanto use the public as guinea pigs, it's unethical. When companies have been using GM foods for 20 years and it has only been recently discovered, it's unethical.
    Right now, we don't know how changing the genes within a plant will affect us when we consume it. He states however that we should support it nevertheless. He doesn't talk about the difference between engineering food with science and engineering food with soil. It's completely different. I just believe he's been so baffled by how much people are resistant to change that he doesn't even research why. He's talking about the idea of science. GM foods can be good in the near future. But he doesn't talk about the implementations of it. The lack of research. The unethical practices of companies that produce the food. The pesticide resistant foods that are bathed in pesticides. Don't confuse the idea and the implementation. GM foods are terrible. Don't eat that shit.

  • @sutematsu
    @sutematsu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know that a timed TED talk is the best place to offer up citations (although it would have been great it they'd been in the video description), but to be honest, all of these studies are out there and are well-accepted. It's just that people don't want to listen.

  • @PoweredByTheHaters
    @PoweredByTheHaters 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    side note, i just remembered something funny. What i find interesting, in California (the state where i'm from) the leading gmo firm's employees choose to have organic food served to them for lunch (the firm i'm talking about is called monsanto).

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't want you telling us what we need to ingest.
    I am alergic to vitamin D so why does all Milk have vitamin D in it, so that I have to avoid drinking milk and avoid eating cereal that has vitamin D in it???
    We don't need you telling us that supplements are no good and then have you turn around and put supplements that *you* want in our food.
    The whole idea is highly questionable.
    Sure it starts out with enriching food. Eventially, it will be drugs vaccines and all kinds of "bright ideas".

  • @kimpeater1
    @kimpeater1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics makes a compelling argument that there is an inherent limit to which we can determine the precise position and momentum of a particle simultaneously.
    Also, my science is your science too, that is if you ever bother to educate yourself about it instead of spewing ignorance.

  • @JohnSmith-y3q
    @JohnSmith-y3q ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s interesting to think about the denial of scientific discoveries and advancements. I do understand the origin of skepticism towards things such vaccines. There are a lot of scientific principles that are really difficult to understand, especially without a college degree in those fields. So people turn to sources that have simpler, and sometimes incorrect, explanations. Even then, that doesn’t justify the propagation of these incorrect ideas, as Michael Specter mentioned in the video, there are serious societal health impacts from science denial. We really have a responsibility to not only ourselves, but to those around us to maintain truthful integrity of the ideas we decide to uphold. If we learn new information that proves an idea we hold to be wrong it is okay to change your perspective and admit your error. What’s ethically wrong is assuming your idea is always going to be right and refusing to even consider you might have been wrong.

  • @timetuner
    @timetuner 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't take issue with most of what you said, just " X has to be changed first!"

  • @MrTooterr
    @MrTooterr 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The future never seems to be here because it's the future. Your lifespan is such a small blip in the timeline; if you're trying to support the future, you probably won't see the fruit of your efforts. But you have to be open-minded and realize that it is helping. This IS the best time of man-kind. But because people who would never enjoy their own results worked to make it so.

  • @jazzmessenger8
    @jazzmessenger8 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are many ways to deter pests besides genetically enhancing the organisms. There is nothing wrong with other genetic modifications, such as transferring genes that increase fruit size or vitamin production etc. I do support growing GMOs. But it is worthwhile to consider the detrimental factors. There is no need for you to make a rude comment.

  • @kimpeater1
    @kimpeater1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a difference between vitamin A capsules and biosynthesis of beta-Carotene, the precursor to Vitamin A.

  • @khornetto
    @khornetto 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    And social hysteria is caused by all that science denial. People love to believe in stories they saw in a blog or facebook but if there's any proof of the oposite, studies and everything, they will believe those were manipulated by the government or something. And let's not forget that society is made by individuals, by each mom that gets scared by a facebook post, the hysteria grows.

  • @TheaDragonSpirit
    @TheaDragonSpirit 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Care to share the names of the studies. I know for a fact there is no studies on some of the things he cites. Or at least no well done studies. Very flawed science.

  • @jazzmessenger8
    @jazzmessenger8 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that the main problem with genetically modified plants is that it can be dangerous to introduce genes for pathogen/parasite resistance. These genes can flow into wild populations and decrease genetic diversity (since the genetically-modified individuals will out-compete all others). There are many reasons why it is important to preserve genetic diversity.

  • @pskale
    @pskale 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adam, he is not contradicting himself. A person with no vitamin deficiency is wasting money when he/she buys vitamin supplements. Poor Africans suffering from vitamin deficiency will benefit greatly if they can get their vitamins from a GM Cassava

  • @DougBenoit
    @DougBenoit 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I have to expand a comment because "This comment has received too many negative votes" I wonder if it would be more beneficial to keep the comment visible by not down voting it, allowing a more unbiased discourse. Maybe the comments on youtube could be handled differently. I disagree with ignorance as much as the next reasonable person, but wish I didn't have to dig to find the context of a discussion. Thanks for your response by the way, cheers

  • @DougBenoit
    @DougBenoit 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's unfortunate that opposition to scientific progress is such a hindrance to change. If someone actually wanted to "take their chances with polio" I would say let them, but this would endanger everyone else. In fact this dismissive attitude may be more dangerous than we think. I questioned genetically modified food and vaccines along with others when the theories were presented. Jenny McCarthy scared me for a minute. Then research followed and more questions were answered.

  • @MalMaimez
    @MalMaimez 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk if it's just me but what's the difference between enriching rice with vitamin A and eating rice with a vitamin A supplement?

  • @jordansmith4527
    @jordansmith4527 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Billions of people could feed themselves if they were granted access to clean drinking water and basic medical care. GMO foods grow quickly and produce massive yields but there is a steep price. They will feed billions in the short-term, and likely cause total sterility within three generations. Please don't take my word for it. If you truly care about the fate of humanity then investigate this for yourself. This is not secret information by any means, it is just not advertised.

  • @DeSwiss
    @DeSwiss 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing. - MACBETH

  • @Justpooinabush
    @Justpooinabush 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Monsanto doesn't own every other's countries version of FDA and they still use GM.

  • @PENNSWORDFISHER
    @PENNSWORDFISHER 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    99% of people on the planet TODAY struggle just to make ends meet ......there IS no expanded opportunity ..... and the usual razz ma tazz are for the very few fortunates ...... so don't tell me that THIS time in history is SO much better than the time of the Inquisition ..... because THATS making a come back BIG TIME as well.

  • @j__Shaww
    @j__Shaww 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, he said vitamins DO work. He said we put them in our food and they give us nutrients, but I'm still doing research myself.

  • @sowhat4theword
    @sowhat4theword 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Yes, yes let the hate flow trough you!" - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars,ehm)
    Don't give in to your emotions so easily...and please be more direct in what you disagree with.

  • @PierrePericard
    @PierrePericard 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're meant to make my point. Biology is extremely complex, but in this case it is not too much simplified to say that nutrients are way better absorbed through food than with supplements.

  • @TylerMontana
    @TylerMontana 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Science is winning an argument by all means.
    Back in the day science said, the world is flat.
    We will always just have a variation of the flat world.
    Nothing more.

  • @h3aso3
    @h3aso3 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I might understand the point you're getting at. Perhaps, in the name of progress, we loose sight of the human experience and disregard quality of life in the name of quantity. Where I currently live, it is hard to find anything other than genetically modified tomatoes. It's not surprising, but they just don't taste as good. But still, I must side with Mr. Specter. Too much skepticism is paranoia, just as too little is naivety. Get vaccinated, but grow your own veggies.

  • @Kombaiyashii
    @Kombaiyashii 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's start with why farmers are choosing GM soy-beans. It is not because of increased crop yields, nor because it's cheaper. The reason is because of the subsidies farmers are given for growing them. If it was a totally level playingfield, you'd see a completely different story. A study done showed that 70% of the value of the soybean is from the subsidies.
    Please, this talk was about science denial. Look into the science my friend and see for yourself.

  • @Kombaiyashii
    @Kombaiyashii 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well actually a study done found that increases on yield production over the last decade is due to improvements on traditional farming practices.
    Despite the biotech spending billions on research and public relations, genetically engineered crops have not been able to produce significantly more crops per acre of land.

  • @geekgroupie42
    @geekgroupie42 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    but the guy on the video said there was no correlation. i believe him. doesn't mean that i don't think rise in austim is important. maybe we are pathologisting weird.

  • @AndyTurenne
    @AndyTurenne 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not antiscience but I do question GMOs. I keep trying to get an answer to one question I've asked for years. "Monsanto engineered seeds to grow crops that when they spray Roundup to kill all the weed in the field, it does not kill the GMO plants from those GMO seeds. In other words, farmers can spray the entire field including the GMO plants and it will kill everything except the plants. Which means, that the deadly cancer causing chemicals such as Glyphosate is absorbed by the plant. Someone needs to explain to me why eating these plants are not harmful.

  • @Acquavallo
    @Acquavallo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this guy. He knows facts good.

  • @sowhat4theword
    @sowhat4theword 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    No of course not, I don't think so literally but it makes some sense doesn't it, if you look how we are build and how we work you see that we are many simple things coming together to form one complex thing.

  • @TazManiac008
    @TazManiac008 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is 2013 and you are still thinking of humans in a geographical sense. Intelligent and well educated people land on mars, not Americans, Europeans or Africans.
    The science of modifying food is being used in the US to improve business, not humans well being. This is why the results are below the high standards of Canada and the EU. Soon the Americans will find that sweet spot of modifying food to improve human life and their wallets at the same time.

  • @smislabez1920
    @smislabez1920 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I basically dedicated my life to science and plan to continue doing that but with respect to the situation we have at the moment, I just cannot support GMO's , SORRY.
    I always support science but you are trying to hide large corporate goals that tend to use GMO's behind science...

  • @kimpeater1
    @kimpeater1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not speculation; Extrapolation based on current trends.

  • @Lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet
    @Lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i believe he was referring to the neolithic agricultural revolution, seeing as that was about 10k years bp

  • @tutentDotCom
    @tutentDotCom 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    (cont 2) their combination is beneficial (table salt), I'm simple have no idea if that's the same case with the mercury components. I've watched my classmates play with the mercury from a broken thermometer when I was a kid to the near panicked hazard response to a broken mercury thermometer at a science fair a few years back. And it makes me wonder. But the real issue I have is that while the experts are all coming out on the side of vaccine, I've seen (cont 3)