Nice video, David. It must be fun to play with those lasers as you learn what they can do. Looking forward to what you do as you learn more - you seem to pick this stuff up fairly quickly. BTW - I had wondered what you do for a living ... never guessed Police. My FIL was a cop for 23 years. I like to watch OP Live on Friday and Saturday nights. Be safe out there - you have a dangerous job.
Really interesting video. I know nothing about fiber so this was well worth the watch. BTW, if you ever want to do something different, would be really cool to see you on the job with maybe a ride along video. Anyway, always. enjoy your vids bro! Thanks.
So, just as a safety note: You are vaporizing metal. Microparticles are getting into the air and that can easily enter your lungs. You may already have a setup for that, but if not, I highly recommend it for yourself and anyone that enters your shop. Especially if you have any loved ones using the space ever. Some element of a vacuum + filter to take that away is in my opinion a must for any laser type work. Many materials can be toxic if inhaled, and there is no amount of metal that is safe to be inhaled. Awesome work, good luck on your projects!
one thing I wonder; when doing something like the pow-container with high and low parts in the etch, the result seems to not mind the difference in depth, but I wonder if the focus is set to mid of high and low, if the etch is sharper? Yep the thing I would be second concerned about is putting my hand in the way while it is working.... (first is eye protection). I do have another question; eye protection, many people say that the glasses the mfg sends are not the best. Is there a way to verify quality of the eye ware?
Your comment about not catching fire made me wonder what it would do with Magnesium. I know that it burns and can't be put out as easy, and using water makes it burn/flare up. Seen it on shop fires with air compressors. Great Video.
I've been thinking about taking the plunge on a fiber laser, and was looking at this one. Still on the fence on this one or another portable/split model.
It is my first so not much experience with others. It seems good for what I want to do. A little more power wouldn't hurt but it is way faster than what I normally use.
@TheClackShack indeed! Once you try Galvo motion systems, gantry feels like walking compared to flying. I 'm building a 90w C02 for cutting, and already, my brain is entertaining a C02 Galvo. 🤣 At 20-40w, I think even a diode Galvo could be possible at 200-300mm² work8ng area. I'd buy one if it weren't $4k.
I seem to have something wrong. My artwork orientation on screen is not the output I get it is off by 90 degrees if I remember correctly, I have left the shop for the day. Any clues?
Likely a setup issue. Here is my lightburn config file for importing the machine. You may want to add it again using this and see if it helps. drive.google.com/file/d/1OZs3s0dKSJB8Qjitp4Qogc8phVyXXzVd/view?usp=drive_link
@@TheClackShackThank you. Yes, I know, but still it cuts with several rounds. The problem is with finding out the right settings so as to prevent warping etc. Maybe you try for yourself sometime in the future.
You probably already know this but laser glasses only work for certain ranges/outputs. Make sure you are wearing the correct lenses for the laser in use now that you have several different types. "Don't shoot your eye out." -Ralphie's mom
LightBurn is fantastic! But just an FYI for anyone who thinks about pirating LightBurn instead of paying for the very reasonable one time license fee: if you use a pirated copy of LightBurn, the software has secret code that will detected its not a legitimate copy and cause it to randomly burn the words "Lightburn is two developers, you are stealing our livelihood." onto a random area of your work piece ever so often! .... don't ask me how I know 😂
Curious your thoughts on purchase several months later. My primary purpose would be for engraving tools such as wrenches, screwdrivers, hammers, etc. I have literally thousands of tools would like to engrave with good depth and resolution. I have also eyed a 30 watt unit, would like something capable of good speed, penetration, ease of use(is light burn most versatile?), and decent size work area. Secondary purpose would be something I can engrave things like coffee mugs, laptops, Ipad. What say you?
It works good and still does at this point. The depth is good but it requires a few passes for it to dig down. I still enjoy it and have serialized several parts with it.
Uhh Ohhhh I have always liked the idea of Fibre Laser, but until today have not seen one used from 0 hour of a beginner, I just wish it was in my budget, Psst wanna buy a Kidney ? Going cheap AU$4600
Enjoyed your review enough to pull the trigger and buy one (B4 30W). My main project for this machine is marking copper but so far I have had little success. Throughout this process I've been attempting to get some help from ComMarker product support but but this is not going well. Similar to Atezr product support, I get non-specific boneheaded answers to specific questions, repeated requests for stuff I've already sent them, 24 hour delays between responses, many things lost in English to Chinese translation, etc. etc. Have you had this problem? I'm trying to grow a business here and I'm afraid this tool isn't going to work for me. I'm assuming they sent your unit for free, have you used it to make anything?
Luckily, I haven't had to use any of the companies support. I just research and experiment. The fiber is a different animal and the frequency plays a much larger role than I thought. Also, focus is very important. Yes, I have made lots of stuff. challenge coins, dog tags, knife engraves, serialized some parts and done some tumblers.
@@TheClackShack Yes, this machine is super intriguing, incredible detail and speed, I've marked lots of stuff but the main job I bought this for was marking copper. Along the way, I found the 110mm lens had a defect right in the middle forcing me to use the periphery of the 110 mm field, the 200mm lens works but the power is much diminished, the focus motor became intermittent and now the power level seems to be half what it was earlier. I know this stuff can happen on new products sometimes, their support is trying to be helpful, but it just takes so long to get anywhere. Just disappointing!
I got a steal of a deal on my first fiber laser! I ordered a new 30w unit on ebay from a Chinese seller for $1,800 (cheaper than normal because it had a broken Z axis adjustment knob damaged in transit I guess) and 3 weeks after the seller marked it as shipped, the tracking info still showed that the shipping company was still waiting to receive the item from the sellers warehouse, so the seller refunded my order. I immediately went and ordered another unit from a different seller, this one for $1,900 and was a used "re-manufactured" 30W unit. I received the used 30W unit and was shocked a few weeks later when I opened the case to install a rotary axis controller and realized that the actual laser source inside was a 50W raycus! That machine even used should've sold for over $3,000 and I got it for $1,900 😂 but that wasn't the end of the story... two weeks later the first unit I ordered that had already been fully refunded showed up! I held onto it for over a month and never opened it, but the seller never contacted me asking for it back, so I kept it too. So basically I got a brand new 30W unit (just had to fix the Z axis knob which was easy) and a used 50W unit for $1,900 total 😂 and to this day (its been over a year) that first seller never has contacted me about that first unit that I shouldn't have received.
Yep. Fiber/q-switch and MOPA lasers don't do organics, just most metals and some plastics. Unfortunately, there is no one laser for every material or task. Diode, CO2, Fiber/MOPA, and UV: gotta catch them all! 😂
You comment to much and have a negative attitude. Just figured I would return the favor. Well it sounds like the channel may not be for you, keep scrolling. Good day....
@@TheClackShack lmao... First time commenting on your channel.. Well second with this one. You took way too long to get to the demonstration. It's not that your channel isn't for me, just that you need to get to what your audience is waiting for quicker and not 20 mins into the video. Also, you should be able to take negative comments, not all of them are roses. It will give you another look at your editing...unless you don't like constructive criticism?
Like a kid at Christmas! Great video thanks for sharing looking forward to seeing new ideas of what it can do. Might buy one also
It was an easy assembly.. lol. Learning the power settings will take some work
Nice video, David. It must be fun to play with those lasers as you learn what they can do. Looking forward to what you do as you learn more - you seem to pick this stuff up fairly quickly.
BTW - I had wondered what you do for a living ... never guessed Police. My FIL was a cop for 23 years. I like to watch OP Live on Friday and Saturday nights. Be safe out there - you have a dangerous job.
Only a couple of years left to retirement. Ready for full time Shack….
Really interesting video. I know nothing about fiber so this was well worth the watch. BTW, if you ever want to do something different, would be really cool to see you on the job with maybe a ride along video. Anyway, always. enjoy your vids bro! Thanks.
My job these days is mostly computer work.... You get promoted and they stick you at a desk..;lol
So, just as a safety note: You are vaporizing metal. Microparticles are getting into the air and that can easily enter your lungs. You may already have a setup for that, but if not, I highly recommend it for yourself and anyone that enters your shop. Especially if you have any loved ones using the space ever. Some element of a vacuum + filter to take that away is in my opinion a must for any laser type work. Many materials can be toxic if inhaled, and there is no amount of metal that is safe to be inhaled.
Awesome work, good luck on your projects!
That’s why I use the particulate filter that is behind the machine with the hose over the workpiece.
one thing I wonder; when doing something like the pow-container with high and low parts in the etch, the result seems to not mind the difference in depth, but I wonder if the focus is set to mid of high and low, if the etch is sharper? Yep the thing I would be second concerned about is putting my hand in the way while it is working.... (first is eye protection). I do have another question; eye protection, many people say that the glasses the mfg sends are not the best. Is there a way to verify quality of the eye ware?
The number of passes and frequency is what will make parts deeper. I would avoid touching anything while it is working.
Your comment about not catching fire made me wonder what it would do with Magnesium. I know that it burns and can't be put out as easy, and using water makes it burn/flare up. Seen it on shop fires with air compressors. Great Video.
Interesting, I don’t know about that. May stay away from any magnesium or phosphorus…lol
Very interesting machine.
It really is!
Not to change the subject, was wondering if that laser tool box is available. Would love to do one on my x7 pro.
Not currently.. I guess it could be. It uses old screw buckets that I upcycle.
I've been thinking about taking the plunge on a fiber laser, and was looking at this one. Still on the fence on this one or another portable/split model.
It is my first so not much experience with others. It seems good for what I want to do. A little more power wouldn't hurt but it is way faster than what I normally use.
@TheClackShack indeed! Once you try Galvo motion systems, gantry feels like walking compared to flying. I 'm building a 90w C02 for cutting, and already, my brain is entertaining a C02 Galvo. 🤣 At 20-40w, I think even a diode Galvo could be possible at 200-300mm² work8ng area. I'd buy one if it weren't $4k.
Hello nice machine! have you tried to color engrave on silver?
No
I seem to have something wrong. My artwork orientation on screen is not the output I get it is off by 90 degrees if I remember correctly, I have left the shop for the day. Any clues?
Likely a setup issue. Here is my lightburn config file for importing the machine. You may want to add it again using this and see if it helps. drive.google.com/file/d/1OZs3s0dKSJB8Qjitp4Qogc8phVyXXzVd/view?usp=drive_link
@@TheClackShack thank you
@@keithcopeland3412 that fix it?
@@TheClackShack Not sure where to add this file. Going to remove everything and try again.
@@keithcopeland3412 add machine using the profile.
How did you connected the ground cable?
Didn’t need it, I had grounded plugs
I wonder if it will do slate coasters?
Yes, I have seen it done
easily
Hi there, would it cut 0.5mm to 1mm gold plate without warping or damaging the material?
It isn’t made for cutting, it might be possible but I have never tried. At that thickness, I wouldn’t think it would.
@@TheClackShack Maybe at 60W?
@@tumdedum this type machine is for engraving not cutting
@@TheClackShackThank you. Yes, I know, but still it cuts with several rounds. The problem is with finding out the right settings so as to prevent warping etc. Maybe you try for yourself sometime in the future.
Looks like you are doing a crosshatch engrave on magazine.
yep..
To get a black mark on steel try taking your laser focus to a few mm above the surface
Yea, someone else mentioned that. Thanks
Got my ComMarker B4 30watt today and have already burned several items. I know what you mean because I just want to burn all kinds of stuff.
Yea, you will be like "what would that look like engraved"....lol
mpcaz, why did you buy a 30 instead of a 20
I'm thinking of getting a B4, and I'm wondering if stepping up to 30w would be worth the price increase. Any thoughts?
It would give you a little more power, depends on what you are using it for.
You probably already know this but laser glasses only work for certain ranges/outputs. Make sure you are wearing the correct lenses for the laser in use now that you have several different types. "Don't shoot your eye out." -Ralphie's mom
Yea, I have diode, CO2 and fiber glasses. Thanks
I’m a newbie and did not know this, so thank you!
LightBurn is fantastic! But just an FYI for anyone who thinks about pirating LightBurn instead of paying for the very reasonable one time license fee: if you use a pirated copy of LightBurn, the software has secret code that will detected its not a legitimate copy and cause it to randomly burn the words "Lightburn is two developers, you are stealing our livelihood." onto a random area of your work piece ever so often! .... don't ask me how I know 😂
I pay. Its worth it
ive burned wood but its tedious. glue aluminum foil to the wood and with the right settings will transfer the heat to the wood as a burning.
I think I will just throw it in a diode or co2... lol
nice
Thanks
Curious your thoughts on purchase several months later. My primary purpose would be for engraving tools such as wrenches, screwdrivers, hammers, etc. I have literally thousands of tools would like to engrave with good depth and resolution. I have also eyed a 30 watt unit, would like something capable of good speed, penetration, ease of use(is light burn most versatile?), and decent size work area. Secondary purpose would be something I can engrave things like coffee mugs, laptops, Ipad. What say you?
It works good and still does at this point. The depth is good but it requires a few passes for it to dig down. I still enjoy it and have serialized several parts with it.
Uhh Ohhhh I have always liked the idea of Fibre Laser, but until today have not seen one used from 0 hour of a beginner, I just wish it was in my budget, Psst wanna buy a Kidney ? Going cheap AU$4600
I was blessed to get this one. It adds some options for engraving.
"hand held" how would you stay steady enough to use it with out a base? 2k $ range, would be good for production work...
Holding it steady would be a concern unless gravity was working with you. I really don’t see me using it in that manner.
Enjoyed your review enough to pull the trigger and buy one (B4 30W). My main project for this machine is marking copper but so far I have had little success. Throughout this process I've been attempting to get some help from ComMarker product support but but this is not going well. Similar to Atezr product support, I get non-specific boneheaded answers to specific questions, repeated requests for stuff I've already sent them, 24 hour delays between responses, many things lost in English to Chinese translation, etc. etc. Have you had this problem? I'm trying to grow a business here and I'm afraid this tool isn't going to work for me. I'm assuming they sent your unit for free, have you used it to make anything?
Luckily, I haven't had to use any of the companies support. I just research and experiment. The fiber is a different animal and the frequency plays a much larger role than I thought. Also, focus is very important.
Yes, I have made lots of stuff. challenge coins, dog tags, knife engraves, serialized some parts and done some tumblers.
I also use it to mark parts and tools to keep up with what machine they go to. You can also clean rusty tools
@@TheClackShack Yes, this machine is super intriguing, incredible detail and speed, I've marked lots of stuff but the main job I bought this for was marking copper. Along the way, I found the 110mm lens had a defect right in the middle forcing me to use the periphery of the 110 mm field, the 200mm lens works but the power is much diminished, the focus motor became intermittent and now the power level seems to be half what it was earlier. I know this stuff can happen on new products sometimes, their support is trying to be helpful, but it just takes so long to get anywhere. Just disappointing!
Turn your frequency down to 45 it won't heat up as fast don't run at 100%.
Also look for your frequency range 20 to 200?
I am learning it…
I got a steal of a deal on my first fiber laser! I ordered a new 30w unit on ebay from a Chinese seller for $1,800 (cheaper than normal because it had a broken Z axis adjustment knob damaged in transit I guess) and 3 weeks after the seller marked it as shipped, the tracking info still showed that the shipping company was still waiting to receive the item from the sellers warehouse, so the seller refunded my order. I immediately went and ordered another unit from a different seller, this one for $1,900 and was a used "re-manufactured" 30W unit. I received the used 30W unit and was shocked a few weeks later when I opened the case to install a rotary axis controller and realized that the actual laser source inside was a 50W raycus! That machine even used should've sold for over $3,000 and I got it for $1,900 😂 but that wasn't the end of the story... two weeks later the first unit I ordered that had already been fully refunded showed up! I held onto it for over a month and never opened it, but the seller never contacted me asking for it back, so I kept it too. So basically I got a brand new 30W unit (just had to fix the Z axis knob which was easy) and a used 50W unit for $1,900 total 😂 and to this day (its been over a year) that first seller never has contacted me about that first unit that I shouldn't have received.
Lucky you
Yah! A kid with a new toy! But it won’t engrave wood…HUMM
Not even a mark. It’s a science thing, the 1094 nm range doesn’t interact with wood. Amazing that it will engrave metal and not touch wood
Yep. Fiber/q-switch and MOPA lasers don't do organics, just most metals and some plastics. Unfortunately, there is no one laser for every material or task. Diode, CO2, Fiber/MOPA, and UV: gotta catch them all! 😂
EM-Smart Basic Fiber laser Engraver,I think its better than this one
Never tried one, this one does a really good job
Good gosh you talk to much and take way to long to just get to it!
You comment to much and have a negative attitude. Just figured I would return the favor. Well it sounds like the channel may not be for you, keep scrolling. Good day....
@@TheClackShack lmao... First time commenting on your channel.. Well second with this one. You took way too long to get to the demonstration. It's not that your channel isn't for me, just that you need to get to what your audience is waiting for quicker and not 20 mins into the video. Also, you should be able to take negative comments, not all of them are roses. It will give you another look at your editing...unless you don't like constructive criticism?