I got a Leap V2 a few months back and I initially kind of hated it. However, I eventually realized that was because I just wasn't used to the chair yet. Initially the back rest and arm rests felt smothering, the seat felt hard to the point where my butt felt sore afrer an hour, and overall I was not comfortable. I did some research and found that companies like Steelcase and Hermann Miller design their chairs with more firm and less padded seats by design. Apparently their research has shown that chairs with minimal cushioning and that focus on rigidly supporting proper seating ergonomics, ultimately helps the body, even if that comes at the expenense of the chair feeling less cushy. In an extreme comparison, one could sit in a Lay Z Boy lounge chair and argue that a Lay Z Boy is astronomically more comfortable than any high-quality ergonomic chair. However, the chair would do more damage to their body over time because of the poor sitting posture, poor support, and poor ergonomics. I bought into it and stuck through it for a good month and a half, and now I can say that my Leap V2 is the most "comfortable" chair I've sat in, just not in the most common use of the word. I feel comfortable in that I no longer feel pain when I sit, and more importantly, I don't feel pain or soreness anywhere else in my body when I get up after a long 9+ hour work day at my computer. I used to use a pretty cushy leather office chair that was "comfortable" in that it was soft and super padded and felt like a giant pillow, so the Leap V2 came at a jarring contrast. However, with my prevoius cushy leather chair, I started to develop a slouch and had some lower back pain after long work days. I also noticed I'd habitually squirm and shift around in that chair for whatever reason. I haven't had that with the Leap V2 at all. Something about the Leap V2 makes it so that my body instinctively wants to sit properly and super straight in it, and feels supported when doing so. I feel less tired after long work days, I feel more alert when I'm sitting, overall I love my chair now. If anyone is reading this and is worried about the uncomfortable seat, just give it a month or two and realize that everything about the chair was rigorously researched and is by design. I was skeptical at first too.
That is exactly how the minimalist/barefoot shoes are designed. They are built against the normal definition of "comfortable". Normal shoes are padded whereas minimalist/barefoot shoes are designed to help strengthen your feet and stand with good posture. People dislike it because it doesn't feel like you are walking on a cloud. Instead, it feels like you are walking barefoot. Well, that is it's exact design. People get hurt wearing them because people end up trying to use them just like they do with their normal shoes. So, I wonder if this is a direct example for the Leap. It's designed to help your posture but some people are used to the squishy, plushy feel that makes them feel like it's comfortable but is instead worsening their posture. Good observation. Just curious, how did you find their idea or their intention with their design of the Leap v2?
for the seat by itself, you should inquire crandall office about it, maybe you can just ask them about the foam see if they can exchange out the foam for thicker foam
@@NecrophagistGGThat’s terrible. I have not experienced any tailbone pain…knock on wood. After using my chair for over a week I noticed that the recline is sticky and squeaks. I’ll have to get some silicone spray to lube it up a bit.
BTOD has been making a crossover of Leap and Amia chairs for years. Lamia is Leap frame with Amia seat, Ameap is Amia frame with Leap seat. Sounds like Lamia is what you are looking for. I have a Leap V2 and love the seat, but if you want Amia seat you can definitely do it!!
Actually, plush seats that dig deep are the opposite of ergonomic and same goes for beds. Not sure if you are feeling the plastic but if not, that's normal. As for the recline, yeah I wish it wasn't sticky.
I got a Leap V2 a few months back and I initially kind of hated it. However, I eventually realized that was because I just wasn't used to the chair yet. Initially the back rest and arm rests felt smothering, the seat felt hard to the point where my butt felt sore afrer an hour, and overall I was not comfortable. I did some research and found that companies like Steelcase and Hermann Miller design their chairs with more firm and less padded seats by design. Apparently their research has shown that chairs with minimal cushioning and that focus on rigidly supporting proper seating ergonomics, ultimately helps the body, even if that comes at the expenense of the chair feeling less cushy.
In an extreme comparison, one could sit in a Lay Z Boy lounge chair and argue that a Lay Z Boy is astronomically more comfortable than any high-quality ergonomic chair. However, the chair would do more damage to their body over time because of the poor sitting posture, poor support, and poor ergonomics.
I bought into it and stuck through it for a good month and a half, and now I can say that my Leap V2 is the most "comfortable" chair I've sat in, just not in the most common use of the word. I feel comfortable in that I no longer feel pain when I sit, and more importantly, I don't feel pain or soreness anywhere else in my body when I get up after a long 9+ hour work day at my computer.
I used to use a pretty cushy leather office chair that was "comfortable" in that it was soft and super padded and felt like a giant pillow, so the Leap V2 came at a jarring contrast. However, with my prevoius cushy leather chair, I started to develop a slouch and had some lower back pain after long work days. I also noticed I'd habitually squirm and shift around in that chair for whatever reason. I haven't had that with the Leap V2 at all. Something about the Leap V2 makes it so that my body instinctively wants to sit properly and super straight in it, and feels supported when doing so. I feel less tired after long work days, I feel more alert when I'm sitting, overall I love my chair now.
If anyone is reading this and is worried about the uncomfortable seat, just give it a month or two and realize that everything about the chair was rigorously researched and is by design. I was skeptical at first too.
That is exactly how the minimalist/barefoot shoes are designed. They are built against the normal definition of "comfortable".
Normal shoes are padded whereas minimalist/barefoot shoes are designed to help strengthen your feet and stand with good posture. People dislike it because it doesn't feel like you are walking on a cloud. Instead, it feels like you are walking barefoot. Well, that is it's exact design. People get hurt wearing them because people end up trying to use them just like they do with their normal shoes.
So, I wonder if this is a direct example for the Leap. It's designed to help your posture but some people are used to the squishy, plushy feel that makes them feel like it's comfortable but is instead worsening their posture.
Good observation. Just curious, how did you find their idea or their intention with their design of the Leap v2?
for the seat by itself, you should inquire crandall office about it, maybe you can just ask them about the foam see if they can exchange out the foam for thicker foam
They will do that. Infact, you get a discount if you are a previous customer.
for the amia seat pan. it’s a direct fit and really easy to swap them. botd had been making this chair for awhile they call it the Lamia
Just got a used Leap V2 and it is night and day. Very good lumbar tension adjustments which is a plus.
You're lucky. My used leap killed my tailbone for a couple months until I just got used to it
@@NecrophagistGGThat’s terrible. I have not experienced any tailbone pain…knock on wood. After using my chair for over a week I noticed that the recline is sticky and squeaks. I’ll have to get some silicone spray to lube it up a bit.
BTOD has been making a crossover of Leap and Amia chairs for years. Lamia is Leap frame with Amia seat, Ameap is Amia frame with Leap seat. Sounds like Lamia is what you are looking for. I have a Leap V2 and love the seat, but if you want Amia seat you can definitely do it!!
the amia and the leap v2 have the same exact stock cushion, theyre just different seat pans.
thanks for your thorough review.
My pleasure!
Actually, plush seats that dig deep are the opposite of ergonomic and same goes for beds. Not sure if you are feeling the plastic but if not, that's normal.
As for the recline, yeah I wish it wasn't sticky.