Is It Possible To Beat Kirby Super Star's Arena With Only A CPU Helper?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.พ. 2021
- WARNING: Video may cause seizures.
Kirby Super Star remains one of the best games in the series, but after playing it a ridiculous amount over the years, I'm utterly fed up with it and can't bear the thought of doing so anymore. But even the most well-worn games can be given a new lease of life if you approach them from a new angle...
Perhaps Super Star's best feature is the ability to create helpers to join Kirby on his adventures and also enable a second player to take part in the fun. But if you lack a spare controller, fear not - the helpers will then be controlled by a CPU ally. Loneiness isn't a requirement this time.
Don't get too excited, however. I would say the CPU A.I is dumber than a box of rocks, but that would be an insult to the rocks. You will quickly regret wasting Kirby's precious abilities to create them after the tenth time they get themselves killed without contributing anything of value to the war effort.
And it got me wondering: Exactly how far can these helpers go without Kirby attacking any of the foes they encounter and leaving all the work to them instead? Is it possible to beat the arena, the toughest mode in Super Star, with only a CPU helper?
The rules are as follows:
- The first golden rule that must never be broken is that Kirby must never attack most enemies or bosses, it must be left to the CPU helpers. Heart of Nova is the only boss that Kirby is allowed to attack.
- The second golden rule: The helper must be controlled by the CPU at all times and never a player.
- Kirby can turn a helper into an item then use it to bring them back with full life, essentially giving them infinite health if used without restriction and making the challenge not very challenging.
There are three options, depending on how difficult the player wants the challenge to be:
1. Only use this trick between rounds as a way to heal.
2. Set a limit to how often it can be used through the entire run.
3. Not use the trick at all and only heal helpers with Maxim Tomatos.
- During battles, Kirby is not allowed to heal helpers or create new ones if die/start to die with the use of his own abilities. The only way the helpers may restore health is if they touch an enemy with an ability while dying and absorb it or if T.A.C uses his copy powers to absorb one.
- All types of helpers are allowed to be used.
#Kirby #whoisthisgit #Nintendo - เกม
TAC goes from single digit IQ to Kenshiro in 1 second.
And back again.
TAC going full Kyoshi for 31 minutes
Tac platinum
Kirby forgets the group project and everyone else has to make up for it
Basically Helper to Hero
Except Kirbo is the brain of the group.
Even with all the support, they still fail to meet the deadline...
Cursed whale.
Kirby's the nerd they pretended to like to get an easy A. But he figured them out
@@Derfderk POYO! *pulls out holy cross and bible*
Doing this challenge is the equivalent of bashing two rocks against your head and determining which one hurts more
Gim just didn't want to hit a lady. He decided to simply dance for her until she threw the first punch
Lalala: Am I a joke to you?
nah he was just dancing at the praise of being the best ai
The AI is always against us, even when it's on our side
Can't forget Oswalt in Epic Mickey 2
I mean in kirby fighters deluxe the enemy its at least ten times more powerful than the ally a.i, at least in the hardest dificulty.
Damn, those are some really mean ally systems.
When he said
"YOU'RE FACING THE WRONG WAY!!!"
*i felt that*
"How does someone who lives inside this game have such little understanding of how it works?" Damn...
AI is hard to program, but I think this game could have at least make AI face enemies
As someone who thinks this looks like a cool idea for Star Allies, I can already see a lot of similar issues emerging, but hey, ever since all the dream friends came around the regular allies have been neglected by me, so they deserve a chance to shine in the pit.
Plus now you can have 3 so maybe quantity can beat quality
It is possible, I had a team of Stone, Magolor, the sisters, and a Chef. I turned into stone and let them deal most of the damage to the final boss. I assume only the first and third stages would be impossible due to a problem like Heart of Nova.
star allies ai is smarter i think
it's surely possible
I’ve been doing one ally per run, stone in the corner, basically “coaching” the allies as I focus on literally anything else for the most part and then running into the fray whenever I want to revive the ally. On paper, any ally could make it to the end given time, but some are so bad at their jobs that I... pull the Plugg.
... he actually insults me with how bad he is at his job.
I can't imagine how hard this would be in KSSU's True Arena.
...Well, actually it'd technically be impossible, since a CPU helper can't help Kirby against Kabula.
But it would be the same situation as Heart of Nova
It'll probably be the same situation as Heart of Nova. The bigger problem are the last four bosses
@@sharpeylogic2907 Galacta Knight would be pure pain.
@@Blayne06 more so than he already is?
The most difficult boss would have to be either Marx's Soul or Galacta Knight.
I wonder if Super Star Ultra on the DS improves the Helper AI?
In my experience... nah.
ok io game fanboy
@@knox1392 hey, don’t be rude.
@@knox1392 It’s literally been a whole year since he made an .io game video.
welp, they don't do the jump attack thing so often
People: AI will take over the world!!
AI:
damn, crazy how much ai has improved since this comment.
“If [...] games were lollypops [...] this game would be just a stick with nothing left for me to lick”
...so who’s gonna tell him about Super Star Ultra?
Not it!
T.A.C is like the skilled friend that refuses to do anything but when he does he just completes it 10x faster and better than everyone
10:00 i think defeated woods counts as an entity, so the AI continues to try to kill it, just like how in Halo and stuff, in absence of a living Spartan target, they will shoot your dead body.
I love to see my bot Gim doing well! One of my favorite abilities/partners. It's definitely interesting how much better the AI seems with some characters than with others.
Sometimes, the 2nd Player gets all the fun!
In any game where there is a possibility to play as any character other than the main, I have this urge to want play that other character, even if they’re just aesthetically different. Whenever Player 2 has the exclusive privilege to play as a whole separate character, it frustrates the h&ll outta me! I can only play the main as Player 1 and I have no one to be Player 1 so I can be Player 2.
Kirby Superstar is one of those examples and the most recent game I’m playing, Cave Story+ for Nintendo Switch, fits the same bill!
Isn’t there a Curly mode in Cave Story tho?
@@borby4584
I’m glad you freakin’ asked! Yes, there is a Curly mode in all versions; however, in the Switch version, there is a two player option, and the second player can be:
Old-School Quote/Curly, Quote Alts, Curly, Curly Alts, King, Toroko, Sue, that old dude, A Killer Robot, and Evil Naked Curly
I want to play as one of the Mimiga or that Killer Robot, and I can... If I’m Player 2...
too true
@@Borti_Ovi good thing star allies has certain modes that let you play without kirby. you can enjoy playing as the helpers even in single player
Hell*
AI more like ALOI (artificial lack of intelligence
Gottem!
Popstar really has incompetent people. Needs Kirby as a mentor and friend.
There's a reason Meta Knight attacked Dreamland to make them git gud. He saw just how incompetent they were.
Has T.A.C always been so OP in the OG game? I never knew this.
9:36 "Stop it! He's already dead!"
I'll be honest: Fatty Whale is a pain in the ass even without this challenge so it's no wonder he was a pain in a challenge like this.
Fatty whale is actually the easiest boss in the game. He can be defeated solely by guarding
15:05 This man's dash dancing
Gim for Smash
I think I actually tried this once when I was a kid. It helped me get really good at dodging the bosses' attacks, as I didn't use the Stone ability to remain invulnerable the whole time. Never got past Fatty Whale without taking control of the helper with the Player 2 controller though.
You can almost completely beat the arena with copy only, but I’m pretty sure chef Kawasaki makes it impossible by giving you cook
how can u hit with copy tho
@@metachop7444 it becomes a damaging attack against certain bosses
@@Yasuuuuuuuu and against any enemy that doesn't contain a power
@@Yasuuuuuuuu Just like TAC's grab.
Kirby Motivational Statue!
Okay, TAC punching Marx in the face as the finishing blow was badass.
Alternate Title:
Kirby Super Star: CPU Helper Abuse
or
Tails Abuse 2: Electric Boogaloo
I literally just got this game on DS.
How does TH-cam pull this stuff off.
YOO, you got KSSU? That's pretty baller.
@@SteelCrustacean Literally the best Kirby game ever
One time my bomb partner ran up to the halberd’s reactor and spammed bombs as fast as possible. The one time the AI attacked fast.
I'm starting to wonder if it's possible to beat the bosses of Kirby's Dream Land 3 with only a CPU-controlled Gooey.
The Twin Woods fight was fucking hysterical holy shit
Seems interesting
Kirby Wins by Doing Absolutely Nothing
That meme's still cool right?
Yes
Wait, if I recall correctly, Kirby Super Star Ultra had a game mode where you would only be able to control the helper, like, instead of playing as kirby, you would play as a helper, could be interesting to see who is the best at dealing with the bosses, I would say either Bonkers, T.A.C. or Burning Leo (When using the fire attack, if you press the direction of the character, the user will catch on fire, it doesn't hurt you, but it deals a lot of damage to the enemies)
The mode is called helper to hero, and the answer is probably bonkers. If you know the strats you can melt any boss in seconds with hammer. For example, you can beat Dedede, wham bam rock, kracko, and fatty whale in under 8 seconds. Bosses like meta knight go down in 16 seconds, etc. Etc. Hammer is completely busted if you know what you’re doing.
17:37 "BUT THE YO-YO MASTER DID NOT ANSWER, HE JUST KEPT ON YOING"
Dear god. That brought back good vibes
Funny how there’s a mode in Super Star Ultra where you actually PLAY as the helper in arena.
Just imagine a "Kirby and the amazing mirror" completed only by the CPUs...
Idk if it's even possible tho
man this is actually one of your best videos you made in your entire carrer. Something as beating the whole the arena with the helpers is something i never imagine knowing how dumb the i.a was but finishing this video make realize how awesome they can be. Excellent video.
PD: mas this video deserve alot of views and im waiting for the next video of the helpers vs the true arena.
This is one of my favourite channels on youtube i dont why i enjoy your videos so much but i do
15:06 a wavedash, dash dance, down A into side B, side B again, turns and ends with a side B!!!!!! this guy really could be in smash
Amazing video! I really like the idea
Man this is such a cool challenge! I’ve always sort of wondered it myself but never got the chance to try it. I never knew that Tac had so much power though...
I feel like the AI gets super smart for some battle, but then the game realizes, wait this is too smart, and dumbs it down.
I'm liking your take on Helper to Hero.
Dang Blade Knight is a champ
Don’t worry bro, Gim was just wavedashing due to happiness on Lololo dying
Does this also apply to super star ultra? I don't remember my partner being THAT idiotic, compared to the original
@@lordlouie3550 nova nucleas wa sin the original
Sometimes it feels like kirby is desperately trying to puppeteer his AI Helper by two strings.
With his tiny nub hands with no fingers.
Awwww yeah half hour vid. Time to grab a snack and relax.
Awesome work!! I would love to see you try SSU aswell :D
Kirby without his canon power
That first part with Kracko made me remember how much I hate him has a boss. It doesn’t matter what game it is, I always dread fighting him.
Also it’s nice to see Gim be one of the best helpers AI Wise, as he and Birdon are my favorite helpers from this game.
He just unlocked the Necromancer copy ability
This is just Chao Karate but in kirby
The AI struggles against Waddle Dee because they know killing him is wrong.
Fun fact: there is an ability that kills Kirby well it is the screen( in the copy ability screen ) that appears when Kirby dies and apparently can be selected when you stuck in two enemies
This video is incredible
Cpu are actually more powerful than you think...
Every other helper: slowpoke
T.A.C.: speedster
Lesson of the day: Helpers aren't that bright.
19:18
The helper: Please... Kirby... defeat this in my *dieing cough* absence... *cue explosion*
Blade Knight was ALWAYS my favorite. Good to see he gets some use here.
You should do a collaboration with Mitten Squad, a youtuber who does similar videos, exept for more recent games, most notably, the "Fallout" series.
Well, I admire you for doing that!
Unrelated to the actual topic of the vid, but Marx is such a pretty creature, though I still think Meta Knight's the best.
This seem to be more painful than fun, but definitely hilarious to see helpers """trying""" to fight the bosses!
I played the DS version of this game, but... I did not realize helpers used to have such a ridiculous amount of attack speed.
They really did Helpers dirty in Ultra didn’t they?
The reason why i was so hesistant to understand that TAC had one of the best damages in the game in your other video was exactly because the AI is so EFFING DUMB lol
Wish i could play in 2 player mode to experience the pleasure of TAC destroying everyone
The DS version (Super Star Ultra) has Helper To Hero; a variant of the Arena where you play as a Helper instead of Kirby. You can play as TAC there.
I remember me and a friend actually beat superstar ultra on the DS using the wheelie partner, because one person could drive while another shoots stars
Vs meta knight the cat got soo done of you screaming at him
"ALR IS THIS wHAT YOU WANT HUH"
He uploaded :)
As stupid as it sounds, I can't help but wonder if Wheelie will be able to fight Fatty Whale... just seems like the right moveset to get the job done.
I have not played Super Star and dont know what the moves for yo-yo are, but here is my idea as to what is making it so good.
The spin attack move is activated by pressing up and attacking, (or maybe jumping) which also makes it invincible. This habit of the AI makes it activate its useful attack more often.
That’s my only theory with no other knowledge
This challenge is truly.. Bonkers.
I think your win over the Halberd Reactor should count. I mean, the helper did push Kirby into position, and then Kirby remained doing nothing for the rest of the round. So, it's mainly just Fatty Whale that's the biggest hurdle here.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED
14:55 Gim saw that Lalala is single now, and got nervous
I wouldn't be surprised if someone did a speed run of this
Bonkers: Nah.
*Bonkey Kong* : perfection.
19:32 That was a DVD logo win right there.
My mom always found that GIM was the best helper in this game. (We didn't have 2 controllers so I couldn't play with her)
His disjointed attacks and invincible dash attack makes him avoid damage better than others.
AI before Nintendo 64 days was like a 2 year old trying to play the game.
Hey, a non related comment, how I recomend stuff to you? Becuase in one of the latest boss analysis, you could have added glass joe from punch out!! Wii, which makes a comeback in title defense.
Can't wait for the super star ultra version.
A little curiosity, if in the battle against the heart of nova you turn on the control of the second player, a "hidden" helper will appear who helps kirby in that battle. (this also applies in super star ultra, in the battle against nova and kabula), but it's up to you whether you know this character as an assistant to kirby, it's worth noting that this ally can only be used in those two battles respectively.
(Sorry for My English)
This is what happens when the one guy in the group project decides to leave the others to it, this is the end result
I never noticed DDD watchin' the Arena!!
Please do an extra video with the DS exclusive bosses
7:20 Bio Spark is just standing there lmfao
This entire video is management jobs in a nutshell.
You know a challenge is a load of bull when king dedede becomes challenging
So excluding nova its possibile to do it on paper?
Are you planning to do this with the DS version? I mean, it would be cool how the DS improved its intelligence (and of course, I mean the Kirby Super Star Ultra version)
The AI be like: hmmmmm i gonna run into literally everything and eventually kill the enemy.
15:08 gim is simping about lalala
And Git never covered Kirby Super Star ever again
Until he did
Lol
15:08
he's trying to dashdance
Its things like this that make me Glad that Star allies improved the helper AI by a gigantic leap
6:50 BUGZZY YOU'RE MY SECOND ADOPTED SON I TAUGHT YOU BETTER THAN THIS (I am extremeluy disappointed)
With the AI a pro tip is to have Wisp as your helper
1.He can fly
2.When he follows you he gains plasma so when an enemy is near by the will get demolished
3.He’s op
But Tac is busted
15:04 love him or hate him
*he be groovin*
6:23 Top 10 Times RNG is Actually Helpful