@@devinowens2166 The game considers an act or zone complete when you see the Act Complete score tally. At this point the game begins to load the next act into memory, and also updates your save file.
I am so fascinated by this series, and I don't know why. It looks really hard, you can tell you need to be a seasoned veteran with the Sonic games and skilled with videogames to pull this kind of shit off. Thanks, Git. Keep indulging into these gaming tortures for our entertainment.
I just want to give a huge kudos to you for beating that final boss. Going into this challenge, I thought the second and third phase were going to be impossible, but you managed it! I might try it myself one day, but without the save states.
You could totally do this challenge in the Christian Whitehead versions of Sonic 1 and 2, as long as you're okay with using the decompilation/recording from a phone.
List of levels in this challenge: 0:23 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 1 (Possible) 5:56 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 2 (Possible) 9:50 - Flying Battery Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 10:48 - Flying Battery Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 12:08 - Sandopolis Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 12:47 - Sandopolis Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 14:24 - Lava Reef Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 21:50 - Lava Reef Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 25:52 - Lava Reef Zone Boss (Possible) 28:58 - Hidden Palace Zone (Impossible) 29:17 - Sky Sanctuary (Possible) 33:05 - Death Egg Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 35:24 - Death Egg Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 36:29 - Death Egg Boss (Possible)
One of my favorite challenges in this game has to be the one where you cannot jump (or spindash, for added challenge) as Sonic, instead, you must use the Debug Mode's anti-gravity. Usually I allow jumps for this challenge only on bosses, however not all Acts can be beaten without placing a spring or something if you disallow spindashing.
Wow, I praise you for the patience to do this. I couldn't. Cool experiment though. And there were so many close calls in Lava Reef Zone that it got my pulse pounding!
Well, time for Mania. If that happens, would you consider doing both normal and Encore Mode, or at least going over differences that may or may not make a level beatable?
Sonic: ... Tails: can you move? Sonic: *IM A FAT CJ* you do it Tails: no Sonic: yes Tails: what did you do in low ceil- Sonic: *[Uploading TAILS ABUSE]* Tails: Fine.
Honestly, I absolutely love how much the final boss changes in this challenge. I feel like just doing it by itself to add difficulty would be really fun.
It would be interesting a rom hack that blocks Sonic controller and change the unpassable parts (removes rocks in Lava Reef, unbury them in Sandopolis, etc).
Yeah, that would be a great romhack. I think easiest way would involve making tails able to crunch the monitors, then altering the terrain slightly to always allow a path through, swapping the inputs of sonic and tails and removing sonic's inputs, and also dealing with things like the sandopolis part 1 drop.
There is a game genie code for Tails to follow Knuckles. It may be possible to beat this game with Tails carriying Knuckles, since Knuckles has different Routes. Correction: It's two codes: ABZT-AA5Y PKZT-B950
@@whoisthisgit Can tails pick up Knuckles in Sonic Mania? Could potentially create a Sonic 3 level counterpart or mod them in for their abilities to work?
Hah, I just remembered - There's a scene in AoSTH where Tails (in a flashback, while he's still just Miles) accidentally makes Sonic injure himself and ends up carrying him because he's too injured to walk. There's like a 6% chance that's a reference to Sonic 3. And then there's "Tails In Charge," when Sonic's turned to stone and Tails needs to fight Robotnik and the Badniks, which is kinda like this challenge.
You can use Sonic Classsic Heroes to do your Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 by only having Tails carry Sonic. You can even replace Sonic with Knuckles, & even have a tether ring mechanic from Knuckles' Chaotix. There's different ways you can beat the challenge with that mod there.
=FINALLY THE SECOND PART.....STILL OKAY,THOUGH.......CAN BE FORGIVEN......... ........BUT REALLY IT'S QUITE SAD ABOUT ALL YOUR SUFFERING..........SO MANY IMPOSSIBLE PLACES.....
If you want to do this in Sonic 1 and 2, you could use the mobile ports, as they allow for Tails to fly in 2 and for him to even exist in 1. There are decomp PC Ports available for them that allows you to play them on PC.
iirc, it is actually possible for tails to defeat eggman before the autoscroll begins during the escape sequence, but doing so will cause the game to freak out or lock up. it's really hard to pull off though.
Are you going to do Sonic Mania after you do Sonic 2? If so, then I here's a fair warning: Sonic can't be carried by Tails unless he jumps into him, so you might need to change the rules to allow Sonic to jump into Tails. Or at least it's like that in the Switch version. If I owned any other version of Mania, I totally would have tested that shit out before posting this, but I don't.
I don't think the low corridor directly after the Lava Reef boss matters, since you can just reset the console and use the data select to get to Hidden Palace.
Brilliant! Well done on your perseverance, especially doing the second last boss phase 1+2+3, so good! Is there any way you could potentially MOD tails, to give him Admin/Sonic abilities, which could potentially allow you to finish the stages you could i.e able to move/break objects etc... Also a way to activate Debug mode with tails and so you could do the stages you couldn't do but have debug mode to manifest things like springs to get up loop-de-loops lol...
Do a revisit on all other failed acts and retry again... every spot you would seem fair to move sonic once please do... like that rock on lava reef... lol its just 1 rocky rock XD the rules are there but yeah... i kinda want to see all bosses done with tails too XD
Lava Reef 3 was a win - if you get that far on a game with saving and reset the console, when you load it again you'll be in Hidden Palace.
Wait I’m confused why does that happen
@@devinowens2166 The game considers an act or zone complete when you see the Act Complete score tally. At this point the game begins to load the next act into memory, and also updates your save file.
@@CNash85 thank u
and also on the brightside at least there's no water
I love how this game went from a momentum based, fast paced platformer to a slow paced momentum based puzzle game under these condtiions.
Alternative title: Sonic makes tails carry his lazy arse for 40 minutes
I never saw this comment and basically said the same thing 5 minutes ago
Lok
knowing him WITHOUT pay
This makes me think of the Sonic 2 continue screen where Sonic is just laying there and Tails is trying to get him to move.
Sandopolis act 1, or how Sonic and Tails had a horrible death buried alive.
The sequel to the Ryan Reynolds film no one asked for
tails really does carry this run
REE-
He carried the whole basketball team
Ironic considering Tails's history on this channel
@@MG1.Q4 He carried the whole game.
I really carry this pun.
The amount of strategy and outside-the-box thinking that goes into these is nothing short of impressive!
The lava reef and death egg escape boss movements were very impressive. Great job!
i thought the third 1 wasnt possible under these challenge rules
I am so fascinated by this series, and I don't know why. It looks really hard, you can tell you need to be a seasoned veteran with the Sonic games and skilled with videogames to pull this kind of shit off.
Thanks, Git. Keep indulging into these gaming tortures for our entertainment.
I don't know why, but reading swear words while Tails is just carrying Sonic everywhere is the funniest thing in my life
For Sonic 1 and 2, you could potentially use the mobile versions or the decomps. Both allow Tails to fly and carry Sonic.
Yeah, the decomp ports are definitely what I'd recommend for this
@@BenutzerWalter bruh is the same things
@@Kn0w-B3tt3r English?
But tails can't move the thing in marble zone
I just want to give a huge kudos to you for beating that final boss. Going into this challenge, I thought the second and third phase were going to be impossible, but you managed it! I might try it myself one day, but without the save states.
When you rely on one character to carry the entire series:
You could totally do this challenge in the Christian Whitehead versions of Sonic 1 and 2, as long as you're okay with using the decompilation/recording from a phone.
@@RealistMafia247 There's a PC port mod of them that allows that, if I'm aware.
@@RealistMafia247 true because sonic 1 has no tails from the start so decomposition is better for s1
Is it possible to control Tails with a second controller in theses versions?
it’s coming to PC in 2022, so they could probably wait til then
He can do the challenge with Sonic Mania.
The slowed-down Ring sound effect is still incredibly funny to me for some reason
List of levels in this challenge:
0:23 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 1 (Possible)
5:56 - Mushroom Hill Zone Act 2 (Possible)
9:50 - Flying Battery Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
10:48 - Flying Battery Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
12:08 - Sandopolis Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
12:47 - Sandopolis Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
14:24 - Lava Reef Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
21:50 - Lava Reef Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
25:52 - Lava Reef Zone Boss (Possible)
28:58 - Hidden Palace Zone (Impossible)
29:17 - Sky Sanctuary (Possible)
33:05 - Death Egg Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
35:24 - Death Egg Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
36:29 - Death Egg Boss (Possible)
One of my favorite challenges in this game has to be the one where you cannot jump (or spindash, for added challenge) as Sonic, instead, you must use the Debug Mode's anti-gravity. Usually I allow jumps for this challenge only on bosses, however not all Acts can be beaten without placing a spring or something if you disallow spindashing.
31:28
As redhotsonic would say: "You're having a giraffe!"
bollocks on toast and leopards eating clocks
whoisthisgit:"i fear no man... but that thing"
"low ceiling,loop de loop and something blocking on their way"
whoisthisgit:"its scare me
Wow, I praise you for the patience to do this. I couldn't. Cool experiment though. And there were so many close calls in Lava Reef Zone that it got my pulse pounding!
Immensely entertaining to watch, thanks very much for making this and the S3 vid.
I love the frustrated expletives, they're just fantastic haha
Part 2 of “dammit go through”
After watching most of the video, I was not expecting the final boss to be beatable in this challenge, but boy was I wrong! Well done!
Well, time for Mania. If that happens, would you consider doing both normal and Encore Mode, or at least going over differences that may or may not make a level beatable?
Your dedication to these challenges is amazing.
you are right, it does feel badass to catch a blue hedgehog while hovering in mid air
21:45 CURSE YOU TINY ROCK
I can already feel that this will be a good Video
Sonic: ...
Tails: can you move?
Sonic: *IM A FAT CJ* you do it
Tails: no
Sonic: yes
Tails: what did you do in low ceil-
Sonic:
*[Uploading TAILS ABUSE]*
Tails: Fine.
Honestly, I absolutely love how much the final boss changes in this challenge. I feel like just doing it by itself to add difficulty would be really fun.
First sonic 3 now sonic and knuckles man you are talented
The amount of patience and determination in this video cannot be described by words
I would probably have raged if i had to do this challenge lmao
That chase sequence was so hype, good stuff dude
Good to hear you had alot of fun on a challenge that can be as unforgiving as this!
it's so fascinating seeing the game played like this
you deserve a platinum trophy for defeating the final boss without moving sonic. Nice job!!
You mad lad! You actually did it, again!
i love it when its about sonic's classic 2d games...an amazing series.
15:47 3D Sonic says hi
Dude this series is super fun. Keep up the good work 👍
It would be interesting a rom hack that blocks Sonic controller and change the unpassable parts (removes rocks in Lava Reef, unbury them in Sandopolis, etc).
Definitely would like to see a hack that removes the blocks so you could do everything. Change nothing else so the challenge is still there.
Yeah, that would be a great romhack. I think easiest way would involve making tails able to crunch the monitors, then altering the terrain slightly to always allow a path through, swapping the inputs of sonic and tails and removing sonic's inputs, and also dealing with things like the sandopolis part 1 drop.
Holy crap that death egg final boss was insane I can’t believe that it’s possible to beat that without moving sonic.
This challenge is super exciting to watch !
i was hoping to see the broken hyper tails alone in the final doomsday level lol
I love how the solution to the first obstacle is "die"
There is a game genie code for Tails to follow Knuckles. It may be possible to beat this game with Tails carriying Knuckles, since Knuckles has different Routes.
Correction: It's two codes:
ABZT-AA5Y
PKZT-B950
Unfortunately, Tails can't pick up Knuckles, for som reason.
@@whoisthisgit Damn. I didn't know that. I guess it's impossible then.
@@whoisthisgit Can tails pick up Knuckles in Sonic Mania? Could potentially create a Sonic 3 level counterpart or mod them in for their abilities to work?
Okay this series was pretty amusing to watch. xD
Gotta Admire the Determination for the Lava Reef Boss. Even I was getting tense
Hah, I just remembered -
There's a scene in AoSTH where Tails (in a flashback, while he's still just Miles) accidentally makes Sonic injure himself and ends up carrying him because he's too injured to walk.
There's like a 6% chance that's a reference to Sonic 3.
And then there's "Tails In Charge," when Sonic's turned to stone and Tails needs to fight Robotnik and the Badniks, which is kinda like this challenge.
You can use Sonic Classsic Heroes to do your Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 by only having Tails carry Sonic. You can even replace Sonic with Knuckles, & even have a tether ring mechanic from Knuckles' Chaotix. There's different ways you can beat the challenge with that mod there.
Lava Reef 3 and Death Egg 3 left me shook.
*Finally!* I have waited for this and it was awsome!
=FINALLY THE SECOND PART.....STILL OKAY,THOUGH.......CAN BE FORGIVEN.........
........BUT REALLY IT'S QUITE SAD ABOUT ALL YOUR SUFFERING..........SO MANY IMPOSSIBLE PLACES.....
Holy shit, the amount of skill is unreal
If you want to do this in Sonic 1 and 2, you could use the mobile ports, as they allow for Tails to fly in 2 and for him to even exist in 1. There are decomp PC Ports available for them that allows you to play them on PC.
19:19 I find the ones in Marble Garden a bit scarier, but yeah, I can relate to that.
iirc, it is actually possible for tails to defeat eggman before the autoscroll begins during the escape sequence, but doing so will cause the game to freak out or lock up. it's really hard to pull off though.
The Sequel Everyone's Been Waiting For.
Wait, shouldn't Sonic get knocked away from the direction he's facing when hurt? Shouldn't that make the Lava Reef 2 obstacle possible to pass?
I guess you'd need TAS levels of precision
i loved the texts xD
I failed so many times on lava reefs low ceilings (episode 10) so at 18:35 I'm impressed you got through!
Both the first video and this was super entertaining, you deserve ten times the views you have right now!
You could also attempt this challenge with Sonic Mania...but that game has Flying Battery and Lava Reef.
I'd say beating the last boss without moving sonic is a feat in itself.
Seriously, who freakin thought the last part was possible!?
This is just yoshis island
Are you going to do Sonic Mania after you do Sonic 2? If so, then I here's a fair warning:
Sonic can't be carried by Tails unless he jumps into him, so you might need to change the rules to allow Sonic to jump into Tails.
Or at least it's like that in the Switch version. If I owned any other version of Mania, I totally would have tested that shit out before posting this, but I don't.
I hope some ROM hacker discovers these videos and makes a hack with the progression blockers taken out
I don't think the low corridor directly after the Lava Reef boss matters, since you can just reset the console and use the data select to get to Hidden Palace.
As stated in the video, this also doesn’t matter because Hidden Palace immediately starts under a low ceiling.
Sonic! Too damn lazy to move! Sonic! Gives Tails attitude! Sonic! Not the fastest thing alive!
This looks very difficult.
4:41 Wait what? I didn't even know you could get crushed that way! That's a pretty weird glitch.
I believe it was because Sonic got pushed under the monitor.
I don't think Sega wanted to leave Tails out, they just couldn't put him in the game. Since the split was made very late in development
Look up the romhack Sonic Delta 40Mb for Sonic 1 and 2 (and some other levels) ported to the Sonic 3&K engine.
Sonic the hedgehog 3 and Knuckles…
But sonic is crippled and can’t feel anything from the waist bellow, and tails does all the work, and Knuckles?
Man, I 'm sad the ps3 collection I own sonic 3 through only has the separate standalone versions
*sees Flying Battery*
You cant touch this!
*sees Lava Reef Zone*
🎵 Krusty Krab Pizza! Eeh-ehh-eh-ehhh. 🎵
(Damn meme culture)
4:40
I didn't know you can die like that.
12:36 Those corpses will find peace within the desert's sand.
13:56 I think you need to fly a longer distance and a better angle for maximum inertia.
All I know is Tails is the real hero of Sonic 3 and Knuckles... If anything, Sonic has been proven to hold Tails back.
Brilliant! Well done on your perseverance, especially doing the second last boss phase 1+2+3, so good!
Is there any way you could potentially MOD tails, to give him Admin/Sonic abilities, which could potentially allow you to finish the stages you could i.e able to move/break objects etc...
Also a way to activate Debug mode with tails and so you could do the stages you couldn't do but have debug mode to manifest things like springs to get up loop-de-loops lol...
Little Brother Mode. Alternatively, AFK Mode.
A related challenge is to defeat the bosses of all unpassable levels.
Because Tails believes in justice and God!
I am going insane over these challenges
Also this challenge deserves a TAS to be honest XD
When Sonic wants to skip leg day..
You should do Sonic Classic Heroes next to see if you can beat Sonic 1 and 2 without moving Sonic.
Why does it say
Sonic got the act 1 or 2
tails did all the work >:(
Overall, for the classic Sonic Genesis series, there are a total of 38 successes and 28 failures.
Could you also do sonic advance 3 using only tag actions?
4:40 How, how does that happen
Did you really remove all roofs in your house
Make can you beat sonic mania without moving sonic
I had been waiting lol
Do a revisit on all other failed acts and retry again... every spot you would seem fair to move sonic once please do... like that rock on lava reef... lol its just 1 rocky rock XD the rules are there but yeah... i kinda want to see all bosses done with tails too XD
Also the super sonic gives extra levels and bosses ... i wonder if there is a rom hack to play tails and knuckles for this challenge XD
4:40 Lol
Now the real question is can you beat sonic 3 and knuckles without moving sonic
i can already feel that Sandopolis and Flying Battery are gonna be hell.
Edit: Yup,both acts are impossible. Oh dear...
Tails doesn't get paid enough for this shit.
Maybe for Sonic 1 and 2 you can play the Classic Heroes hack rom, but u don't know if it player 2 can use Tails
player 2 can use tails