Very Long Term Update - Here’s What Happened To Our Ford F-250 ‘Godzilla’ 7.3.L AFTER We Sold It!
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Nothing tells the true story of a vehicle like a real life long term update. Would love to see more of these! Would be a great series to follow-up with all of the old TFL vehicles.
Hi folks - I'm Warren from the video. Happy to answer questions as they come up. To address a few things already in the comments:
Weight & GVWR - 9400-9500lbs is my max all-in weight when loaded for a hunting trip. It includes 250+ lbs of recovery gear, people, dogs, full gas, 250 qt yeti & ice for an elk.
Agreed that more weight stresses everything out, but that's why I bought a super duty. Unlike, say, a tacoma, many of the key components in the truck are the same as configurations with much much higher GVWR & GCWR.
Note also, when I'm towing, the truck has much less weight in it, and I air up the tires. I've checked my weight & axle balance on CAT scales before every long towing trip I've taken and I've never been near my max axle weights, GVWR, or GCWR.
My truck is still under the powertrain warranty. Will Ford still honor it? We'll see. But I haven't done anything that they don't do in their commercials or advertise these trucks for.
Fuel economy - The godzilla is highly dependent on how & where its driven. I average about 11.5 mpg, that's mostly driving quickly on the highway, through the mountains. I've gotten as high as 13.5 mpg on a long highway trip, but that was only doing 65 mph on the highway in flat country with no wind. It also burns alot at idle, so it burns a lot idling through the city. If you let it warm up in the winter, it will drink enough to affect your trip mileage.
You don't live in the city of Seattle!
The excellent 10R80 tranny improves MPGs alot!
Hi Warren,
Are you still on the original transmission fluid?
Great setup!
@@ezacher4634 Why does it matter so much to post that? At about the 17:33 mark you can see a large body of water with trees on the opposite shore. That could be Lake Washington. Might be Greenlake for all I know. Or Lake Sammamish (close enough to Seattle). I'll take Warren at his word and I don't really care if he lives within the city limits and doesn't want to advertise the exact location.
Thanks for sharing Warren , I'll be looking forward to the update you hopefully provide with tfl as I have just received my 2022 f350 7.3 dually 4.3 gear ..
I know these transmissions run warm and im fully aware of optimizing gear ratios but you would think that "Super Duty" would have enough tolerance designed into the transmission especially considering the customer base that likes to lift trucks and test them to their limits. thanks again!
I LIKE long term follow up, particularly the power train and fuel mileage coverage…
TFL should do MORE long term coverage on all popular pickups.
Ditto!
You have to flush the trans in any vehicle that you actually use. As a Automotive engineer I don't give two $h!t'$ what the OEM says about service intervals. There is no such thing as a "life time fluid". In his setup and use case I would be flushing the trans ever 45-50k miles, if he tows above 30% max tow capacity twice a month at least then every 35-40k miles. Hell Ford use to have their trans on a 30k max service interval for severe duty use, EG operation in High temp envro's, Long heavy towing, and dusty envro's with a normal trans flush being 45k. The new fluid is good for a little longer service life but not a 150k or 200k which is what Ford is saying now. Hell the reason the Ecoboost's are having issues is because of the oil change intervals, I have seen 3.5L Ecoboost with the ECU saying 45k on an oil change. That engine failed at 90k, a turbo engine should never see more than 8k between oil changes and for long life 5k max and use full synthetic of the highest quality. I also recommend Lucas oil additive (OG if using 30w or higher, Synthetic if using below that) as it helps reduce dry start, and most wear is at first cold start of the day.
I changed all the fluids in my 18 f150 at 42k miles. I don't agree with following "life time" fluids at all. Purely designed to reduce it's life, especially with towing.
I have a 2014 honda crv with 230k miles bought new. Never touched the trans fluid. Ford just makes junk now
@@omardevonlittle3817 you are not using your crv at the same lvl of abuse as he is that super duty. It's not even close.
@@omardevonlittle3817 you are lucky.
I bought a car that hadn't had the trans fluid changed in 200k miles and it was flipping disgusting. Black as diesel engine oil. When I changed it a layer of clutch material sediment settled to the bottom of the milk jugs I stored it in.
But that's just a little car, you aren't working the heck out of it towing on thousand mile trips. You have to maintain your vehicle if you use it hard.
@@TdrSld well duh... but he did say every vehicle needs a tranny flush every 50k miles. Its nonsense. Unless youre pulling loads where the trannys running at veryyy high heat and stress.
I definitely want to hear an update after he takes it to the dealership and gets it fixed 👍🏼
Looks like he was the perfect buyer for that truck. He has a heck of a build there! Hopefully the transmission gets taken care of without costing him too much. Looking forward to the next update.
This is the perfect buyer for this vehicle. I applaud his useful and tasteful modifications.
Thank you so very much for your consideration of others on the head lights. If only everyone else would, especially the manufacturers, the roads would be a lot safer.
Thanks for bringing the new owner in on this for a 'real' long term update on the vehicle. Curious about the update on the trans.
Where is the update?
Great video. Good to hear from long term owners! Thanks for sharing with us Warren and Andre!
Agreed. Maybe TFL should start a “where are they now?” Series where they catch up with previously owned vehicles.
18:10 you're welcome.
Thank you.
This is excellent follow through, thanks guys. Keep the conversation going.
I have a lifted 2019 F-250, 4 door, short bed 4x4 for work. I do work in the oil field and it spends 90% of its day on rough rough wash board dirt roads etc. i had the truck weighed it came out to 10,100Lbs. 100lbs over GVWR. It is outfitted with a headache rack, huge rat pack bed tool box. 3 smaller rat pack single drawer tool boxes, these boxes are stuffed with tools. Has a rack in the bed that hold 4/5 gallon Jerry cans for Anti freeze, screw oil, methanol and pink antifreeze for compressors. These trucks kick ass. I have it running all day! From the time I start in the morning to when I get home. Haha. EDIT: I forgot to mention it’s the 6.2L v8 6 speed auto!
Great testimony. I also have a 2020 F250 with the 7.3 and Carli 3" level on 37's x 20's. Same Falken Wild Peaks tires and everything he said was spot on. Best tires for quiet and longevity and excellent offroad getting my trailers into my muddy jobsites. The suspension is soft riding almost like my GMC 1500 and the springs are progressive when loaded up with stuff in the bed or towing. They even stiffen up some when cornering faster than I should be. Almost 48k on the odometer and the truck has been trouble free...and in 3 payments paid off. I normally would get a new truck but I believe I will keep her another year or two.
What mpg you getting with this setup?
74-75mph w cruise in eco mode i get 15.2-15.6. I was getting slightly better. During rush hour speeds are 80-90mph and I get around 12. @@raulgallardo5140
Great video guys. So much helpful information. My neighbor bought a Godzilla F250 last year.
Near max gvwr it's whole life, lots of off roading with a lift and bigger tires, hard life for the transmission. Plus significant towing weight causing it to likely be over gvwr it is no surprise it needs atleast a new transmission filter and fluid at minimum.
Agreed. The Ford recommended fluid change internals are usually comical as well. My 2015 f150 Ecoboost says trans flush at 150k normal use our 100k with mostly towing. I flushed at 50k and wished I did it at 30k seeing the color of the fluid.
Not to mention the 0 - 60 runs both unladen and with a heavy trailer, as well as the IKE. All done with very little mileage on the truck. Who would have thought that abuse would lead to future problems.
This is heavy duty truck meant to do heavy work. Ford has had so many quality issues over the last few years. They had more recalls in 2022 than any other manufacturer and it's not even close. Their own CEO has admitted they have a quality problem that will take years to fix. This truck has not had that hard a life. Only has 50k miles and this transmission should not be malfunctioning this early. Hopefully a fluid and filter change clears up these issues. If that tranny needs rebuilding that is a major fail on Ford.
@mhadlock78 Not denying there may be an issue, but don't try to tell me that 0 - 60 drags with a trailer, IKE gauntlets, 37 inch tires, heavy camper in the box, and lots of vigorous off roading in the process couldn't have exacerbated the problems.
Not sure if speedometer calibration was done initially after installing the 37’s, but it matters as you would’ve been essentially in a taller gear all along that could hurt the transmission. Depending on how the dealership handles it, I would plan on trying to fix it myself by calling 5Star Tuning, getting a tuner, calibrating for the tire size and speedometer correction. With the updated shift points air and fuel delivery it may will clear this issue up.
Your assessment is 100% spot on. I hate assuming and we should all know what that word actually means. That being said I would be surprised if TFL would pony up the funds for this truck, up-fit it with a top of the line Carli suspension system additional expensive accessories but not program the corrected tire size in applicable ECMs. It would almost be more plausible that after the fact, a repair shop flashed updated software and failed to enter the larger tire size.
more of such real world build videos TFL, was very informative!
ford transmissions are notoriously famous for being huge pieces of shit.
Great video. Keep us informed 👍😁
That's why I had ford do all my work on my truck the lift and the tires and it does not void your warranty then , I'm glad I went this route
With the truck being heavy, and with far larger tires, there is way more strain and heat being put into the trans. Its possible its something as simple as a plugged filter, as that can cause harsh shifts. I would be curious how the fluid looks. But hopefully its not the trans failing overall.
But also, its super cool that the owner was willing to do their super long term update.
I would agree. If it wasn't a heavy duty truck. It's meant for being heavy and towing. So here's hoping it's something simple
@@Dia1Up The truck has not been regeared. It has 3.73 gears with 37s. The amount of load this adds on the drive train essentially is the equivalent of towing, all the time, even when empty, much less loaded. There is a reason you should ALWAYS regear when when going up in tire size.
It actually has 3.55s…should regear it to 4.30s
@@MSparks9509 Oh, even worse :( 4.30, or 4.56 would get it back to where it should be.
it may be as simple as needing a software update.
Hopefully just cleaning learning table could do it... But needs to note, I seen TH-cam video where man was with his F-150 in dealership 3 times and they could not fix it, when he suggested it could be learning table, they cleared it and it was fixed
I'm very sure that it's an issue with the maintenance that he's been doing, the reason is that since he's offroading and has that extra weights on the back that changes the maintenance category from regular to extreme usage which requires earlier fluid change intervals. With what he's been doing and all the of roading that he has been doing I would have told him to go use the heavy use/ extreme usage category of the maintenance schedule! Most people don't know that witch would require him to look at the engine idle hours and use that for the maintenance issues. But the issue with this transmission is the cdf clutch is going out, thats what may be going out. This is from some one that works on ford's
I have the exact thing happening on my 2020 F350 with the 7.3. When it’s in 10 gear randomly it’s like you lose power no matter what you do with the gas pedal nothing happens, then all the sudden it will downshift. I also have the clunk going from park to drive or park to reverse. The dealership will not acknowledge the issue with the shifting and keep telling me it’s normal, but the adaptive learning transmission seems to be a huge issue and has been for years as far as I can tell. The dealership is addressing the clunk issue and have has parts in order now for 2 months and counting. They did reset my adaptive learning transmission which make it better, but remember you have to re teach it. Now that I’m plowing with it, it’s all messed up again. I also know there is a class action lawsuit against Ford and GM )this transmission was a joint venture with those 2 companies) I wish they would just put regular transmissions in these trucks. I’m a little ticked off since I paid $65,000 for a 2 year old truck with 56,000 miles on it. Love the truck, HATE the transmission. If you want to contact me my info is in my about section. Thanks for posting
$65,000 used !
@@the_halfshell TOTALLY!
@@ravenbishop5232 Yup! "Remember, they were saying there was a ""SHORTAGE"" LOL I was not happy and I let the dealer know it, but I was in a position where I had no choice!
Really cool build!
Great vid. TFL needs more "real life" reviews like this one. Warren - did you do all the work yourself or enlist an outfit like MULE to help (I'm local to your area and looking at doing a similar build...).
update: add a 5 star tune to adjust the speedo when changing tires. I also note a better shift pattern and about 10% firmer shifts when spirited driving. I use the 87 octane light and heavy tune and have occasionally switched to the perf tune which shifts harder and will squawk through second gear and spin in 3rd on a hot day. Major improvement. I now have over 65k miles with no issues. Typical 5k interval oil changes, tire balance and rotate at the same time. Id like to know the update on this truck as well.
funny that I've watched his builds videos not realizing it's the tfl truck :p
The 10R80 heavy duty tranny is getting better with every yr . The 10R80 in our newer Ranger & F150 are flawless & smooooth. This will not be a major issue w/him. I look fwd to the update.
Which isn’t the transmission he has so…
Me too I've had problems with the 2020 transmission They replaced it with the new updated transmission , so far so good
My 2020 F250 used to do that "dead pedal" thing once in a while. On time when I was low on gas I was forced to fill it with premium. Well that gas woke this truck up. The dead pedal went away and power increased. Now I buy a tank of Premium when I see it at a good price.
I like the long term follow up!
I had the same transmission experience in my 2020 f250 godzilla. I took it to ford and they declared it to be the electronic shift. The specifics about 3rd gear are the same for me. Ford connected a laptop and said they recalibrated it or something. Since then I have adjusted my driving habits and anticipate the extreme lag in electronic shifting. The third gear issue is actually purposeful. Ride that gear out to 6,000 rpm and it will shift.
NOPE...You WILL need the redesigned CDF DRUM. There's a tsb out for it. Had mine done and cured EVERYTHING!
Although not the F-250 tans, I'm noticing hard 《&》shifts at tans temps above 190F. The has towed 6k or more for 60%, mileage is at 69k. Tans oil has been flushed 3x, most recently at 52k. If i can opperate at 《= 190F, all shifts are smooth. Above i lock out 9th and 10th. It doesn't seem to be software, more like a component needs to be adjusted as i did in an old C4 trans!
Please do an update! We would love to hear Fords diagnosis and solution.
Love to have a 10 instead of the 6 in my '14 6.2 I get 9-15 mpg no matter what.
i love my 2021 7.3 f250 at 60,000 I had transmission oil change and filter i change oil every 5, 000 miles full synthetic i tow between 8,000 and 14,000 pounds it is awesome i don't miss my deisel
@warrenhunts Is there any update you can share on your fix/repair for the Transmission issue?
I had to replace the 10speed transmission on my 2018 F150EB at around 75k. Thank God I had the extended warranty. I hope they replace it under the warranty....
I have the same truck and my transmission did the same thing at 46000 miles. Ford had to pull it out and fix it. It took them 2 1/2 months
Not a Ford guy but if buying a Ford that would be it. Nice setup man 👍
Actually, it's good if your issue is happening more often now. It'd be a much bigger hassle if the dealer could not reproduce it return it back to you with nothing concrete.
Trans problem stinks but thank goodness it just before the factory powertrain warranty expires. Bright side, you’ll have a new trans at the time your warranty expires plus you’ll get an extra year or 12,000 miles of warranty on the transmission after the works done at the Ford dealership
absolutely need an update on the transmission issue.
its unfortunate hes had these issues, and ive heard from numerous people that shifts on the 10 speed are unpredictable. Additionally, my dealer has told me that they have had a bunch of 7.3 that had valvetrain failures which were all related to cylinder number 2. ford is replacing them with longblocks. I have thankfully had no issues with my trans or engine (its a 6.7 so maybe thats a factor, not sure), but i did have an A/C failure at less than 10k miles and it also needed apim reprogramming to fix stuck message issues on the dash. Time will tell how these trucks hold up, but i hold they do well in the long run because they are one of the nicest trucks to drive on the market today as long as they arent broken.
Was so close to buying or ordering a new superduty this fall. I backed away after hearing too many similar stories, not just failures, but excessive wait times for parts.
That AT topper is nice...but the price took my breath away for sure at close to 15K. My 28 foot single slide private bedroom travel trailer was less than 24K. I love the 48 inch drawer storage you made. You could sell that its so well thought out.
Yeah, I agree that AT isn't very price competitive (especially compared with travel trailers, which you get a lot for not much money). Their base price is at or above their direct competitors' fully-optioned prices. And AT's don't have some basics like windows/side doors in their base model.
But, it is the best thing for my needs. And the build quality is quite good. I've been going to record a long-term review for it... but I need to get around to it.
swap the trans fluid every 35-40k miles. no flushes. use T/H on the highway to lower strain with the larger tires.
The problem is a solenoid issue on the transmission I had the same issue
I'm curious to see the update.
Interesting info!
There have been lots and lots of people having issues with the 10 speed transmission. I follow a handful of people that have a superduty with the 7.3 and three of them have had transmission problems, all way under 50k miles on the trucks also. A guy I work with has a 22 f350 with the 6.7 and had to have his truck towed from work as it wouldn't go into reverse to back out of his parking spot. Truck had 28k miles when that happened.
While I do hear about some failures with the 6.7 diesels, most of the people having the most trouble with the 10 speed transmission seem to be running the 7.3 Godzilla gas engines. Wonder why that is?
Be curious if it’s the throttle body/throttle position sensor. Would be willing to bet the xmission is fine.
I have a 2017 f250 4x4. It had the same issue truck has 70k miles o. It. The computer for the transmission shorted out. Causing the input and output shafts in the trans to malfunction. My truck is still at the dealership its been 30 days since the transmission failure. They said the part is on back order 15,000 of them. So if I were you I'd take it to a dealer to get it fixed asap. For the waiting period is and seems to be forever.
My speculation is that the suspension was modified effecting the drive line. The different angles of the driveshaft may have had an effect on the engineered specs. That’s my “2 cents”
One of the main reasons I got rid of my 2020 F350 Powerstroke 10 speed. The transmission recall. Distressed first gear planetary bearing, 10+ hours of labor, ford only had 50% of the parts at the time and the fix was for the dealer to pull and rebuild the transmission in the shop. No thanks, not on a truck with less than 10,000 miles. They should have been replacing the transmissions with reman or new transmissions, not having a rebuild done at the dealer.
I would never trust a dealership job as well. I imagine a few guys standing around trying to guess at it instead of actually knowing how to get it done
Really bad situation you had there , but as a mechanic theres little difference in a rebuild by a dealer vs a reman somewhere else. Same thing minus shipping, to a different facility.
Cool to get a long term update on past rigs/builds! Seattle folk, gotta love em. Nice and helpful. But 50K miles on a tranny and it is having issues? Seems like what I have said before comes into play. There is a reason manufacturers do not over engineer their products. (cost being obviously 1 of them) When you max out weights and modify the original design putting extra stress on things, is it any wonder problems crop up? I mean, I get it, if you want to do what Warren does, you need something built for the task. Seems that tranny needed an upgrade as well to accommodate the other changes made. Best of luck!
Andre, can you get your hands on a Lada Niva to do a reaction on. They have been making them forever.
@warrenhunts What turned out to be the problem with the tranny. Did a software fix resolve it? I hate hearing a transmission clank. I hope it was a cheap/simple fix
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I would've ran the compressor with a pto setup just flip a switch inside the cab idle or Rev um the truck via the given circuitry and bam
Some of the early trucks with the 7.3 10 speed have bad transmissions. They had a bad batch of bearings. My 2020 7.3 10 speed transmission did the same thing last September. It sat at the dealership for 2 months waiting for a new transmission. Good luck
Was there a new model number for the trans? Ford replaced mine and I’m having issues again after 3k miles
Mine ended up getting “rebuilt”. It’s a 2020 also. Sat at the dealer for 4 months, but 6k miles later and so far so good.
I have come to the conclusion that dealership service departments are pretty much useless. I would recommend taking it to a good regular mechanic and only taking it to the dealership for a warranty repair if it is something expensive.
We need the next update on what they found and if it was fixed.
Any update on the transmission diagnostics?
My 06 f150 had the same power problem. I think it is a computer issue that happens when a certain engine problem happens.
Just so you guys didn't try and sneak Russell back to Seattle in that truck.😆
Had a 20 and 21. Both power strokes had transmission issues.
sounds like you just need a tune to help with the trans issue
This truck has 3.55 gears, correct? Why on earth would they put 37”, 80lb tires on a truck with 3.55 gears? Plus he’s always carrying over 2,000 lbs in the bed. I made sure to order a CCLB 4x4 7.3 with 4.30 gears because I knew I was adding bigger and heavier 35x12.50r20 wheels and tires. Still a sweet truck and this dude seems like a cool guy. How does he live in Seattle around all those crazies?
max Trax are very helpful when getting stuck
If you guys think this transmission has issues, you need to wake up. Their will be some in every vehicle period. No matter the maker. Same thing with engine issues. It matters how the manufacturers deal with the issue at hand and improve their product. Many, many people have had no issue working their trucks hard.
Very interested in update. I’m a current Duramax owner considering a ford with the Godzilla but the transmission issue is definitely concerning.
Allisons have proven themselves and even if they are just Allison branded now i would still take that over this.
Ford has a planetary gear safety recall on 250-550 2020 trucks with 10 speed transmission
Not sure it’s actually a recall, but I know mine had a TSB. Bad planetary gears, & bad clutch packs.
Hmm so Tremor package would save the hassle of “you installed a lift/bigger tires”, yet still have the pesky transmission issues to deal with. Was turning into my favorite pick for an off road capable truck that can still do truck things, but might have to reevaluate.
Heavy duty’s really aren’t good of road to big and heavy
One truck out of hundreds of thousands does not mean all of them have whatever issue this has. And putting on 37's, with stock gears, is going to be rough on the transmission.
They messed up when they built this truck! It should’ve had 4.30 gears if they’re gonna add 37” tires that weigh 80 lbs a piece. I got 4.30 gears because I added 35x12.50r20 wheels and tires. My tires weigh 70 pounds a piece. Then he always has 2,000 lbs in the bed and tows an unaerodynamic brick of a trailer. Recipe for disaster.
Isn’t this a one ton truck? You can put 37” on jeeps all day long without problems
Known for a bad CDF drum and valve bodies. Tsb on valve body I believe.
I'd like to see more of these
I think a higher duty trans fluid or a flush every 25k miles would help more
It is because of the tire size. Need to tune some things up for larger tire size.
Tune up what exactly ? The drivetrain is overkill as it is being a super duty, and low geared. That truck couldn’t care less about 37’s
This should be a stipulation of TFL truck sales, call up the new owners for a yearly check in and see what's new.
I work for Ford and a Transmission swap at 50 000 is pretty common for trucks going off road
Why is that ?
I actually bought my 2019 as soon as i heard the 2020s were getting a new ten speed transmission. Looks like that was a smart choice.
Had the exact same issue with my ford. The dealership could “never duplicate” it. It got so bad I ended up trading it in on a Sierra. Haven’t regretted it for a second.
The 7.3 should definitely last past 300k miles easy without any major repairs the 10 speed is up in the air. Would be interesting to see some that hold up well past 150k the average lifespan of a automatic transmission. If the body holds up and the way prices are headed for trucks I'd keep it alive by rebuilding what needs to get done. Ford made a great decision to make this engine a pushrod. A proper competitor to a diesel motor without the complications. I'd love to see this engine turbocharged. I think if Ford could properly turbocharge this motor it would be a better competitor to the ever powerful diesel motors of today. We'll see what shops do in the meantime to amp this truck up.
Have you done the follow up video?
Sounds like a sensor issue, a simple code reader could shed some light.
In 2020 my choice was between a 7.3 f350 or a 6.4 ram. I'm glad I got the ram..no issues
My 01 tundra last longer than all that junk
@@ToyotaNutjob And can only tow half as much.
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸, pretty awesome
My dirt bike riding buddy bought a 2021 F-250 Tremor new with the 7.3 Godzilla and he is also have transmission problems like what is being discussed here. He took it to the dealer and they re-flashed the computer and it made it better but it's not 100% fixed. He also tows an RV trailer about 7K pounds from Texas to Yellowstone and Arizona and other places which should be easy duty. The transmission is a problem period. Ford blew it on the transmission.
Chevy uses the same transmission so Ford and GM blew it!
Any update on the trans issue?
It's the high pressure pump, either the regulator or the pump itself ...
Does modifying tires void warranty for the transmission? Guess we will see in next video. Or is it already out of warranty?
My truck isn't running very well, but I keep driving it and probably making it worse. All that off-roading may have created a slight transmission leak and it doesn't take much to make a real problem. Obviously this guy isn't very mechanically inclined as he should be knowing all about transmission oil services and checking oil level among other things. The longer you own anything, the more you have to service it keep it running like new or better.
Im reading about the camshaft and lifters failing at 40 to 50k🤔🤔🤔
Faulty transmission output sensor would be my guess
What were the results of the transmission issues?
Great video, I just hate Ford after my experience but hope for the best for him.
The co-developed 10 speed with GM and Ford has been less than stellar. The variants are used all over both companies and and in the 1500 world, the F150's and Silverado's are both experiencing crappy transmission issues.
The TFL videos is why I got a 7.3 250 as well. Lots of these transmissions go bad, there was an update to prevent the failure, but if it was applied too late its a total replacement. I got the ford ext warranty because of this. However the reality is the engines and 10 speed can be had for cheap, so its not end of world to replace it unlike a more exotic car.