Ford F-250 Tremor Fuel Economy Test - How Thirsty is the 7.3L Godzilla V8?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- We hit the road in the Ford F-250 Tremor for with the 7.3L gas V8 to see how much fuel it drinks.
Let us know what you think of this F-250 Tremor in the comments below.
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As a service advisor, I would tell folks to go with a gas option every time unless they are towing super heavy and often. Modern diesels are not only significantly more expensive to get into, they are significantly more expensive to maintain, and repair. They also have more maintenance requirements associated with their inherent complex emissions systems, and have more instances of component failures. If a turbo grenades, or a fuel system gets contaminated with high pressure pump guts, it's $12,000-$18,000 to repair. These are also long repairs that exceed 30 flag hours to complete, so even -if- the parts are available, it will be most of a week to repair and test, plus programming, as most of these components integrate with the PCM on a serial basis and aren't plug and play. Meanwhile, you may spend $1200 on a tune up at 100,000 miles for the 7.3. The average oil change is also only $80 on the 7.3L vs $180 for the Powerstroke, and that doesn't include the extra $200-$300 for fuel filter replacement every other oil change, nor the cost of DEF. Even if Diesel fuel cost the same as gasoline, you would never recoup the additional costs, even if you drove it a million miles (which you won't, as those massive repair bills usually cause folks to buy new $80,000 trucks). So again, if you are buying one of these trucks, and especially a single rear wheel unit, 90% should buy the gas option. Your fiscal self will thank you.
I wonder if this applies to old school diesels. I wanna get an excursion with that 7.3!
@@Anonymous-jj9yu The old 7.3 powerstroke was a great engine, but due to it being a dead platform for 20 years, parts availability, especially for soft parts like hoses, belts and harnesses, is becoming more rare. Not so bad for belts specifically, because you can just swing down to autozone or Orellys for those (as long as you know which alternator option you have). At this point, getting an Excursion is less like buying a used vehicle, and more like restoring a classic.
Very well said and very accurate I had a 17 6.7 for 2 weeks I returned it to CarMax I sold an 06 F350 6.0 I shouldn't have. I ended up with another 06 F350 6.0 not as nice as my original one a 2000 7.3 6 speed and a 2015 6.2 gas I can still fix and get parts for all of these trucks and do the repairs myself in my shop
Then you always get those guys that say “but but but diesel gets better fuel mileage”. At $10-12k up front plus fuel that’s $1 per gallon more expensive you’re not saving money by getting marginally better fuel economy.
i totally agree with you i had diesels for the last 25 years and driven are company vehicles i just bought 2024 f350 7.3 gas love it will not go back to diesels all the very costly repairs now you they want you to use fuel additives, plus urea,fuel filters,oil and a dollar or more per gallon you better be able to afford to keep under warranty or you will go broke
Changing the oil in the 7.3 is literally one of the easiest quickest oil changes I’ve ever down.
People all often disregard the ease of maintenance when purchasing, …
NICE. Pretty decent Milage for a BIG BOY.
Definitely turn off I love driving and the feel of the steering wheel in my hands! Besides that I trust me not a computer
Definitely turn off I love driving and the feel of the steering wheel in my hands! Besides that I trust me not a computer
My 2023 f250 tremor, the fuel economy is 16L/100km at highway. 18-19L/100km at city. It is very comfortable and drive smoothly.
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I have a 22 f350 Godzilla, I drive a lot, so it already has over 50k miles. great truck, I get around 15 city and 16 highway. Guys out there looking to buy a truck, listen to me. Unless you're towing over 20k everyday, you do NOT, I repeat NOT need a diesel. No way in hell you can justify paying 13K extra upfront for the diesel option and then all the problems you will have from the emission system and paying more for fuel and paying more for services. I owned diesels all my life, trust me, I love diesels, the problem is Modern. diesiels are not what we grew up knowing and loving. The epa has ruined them foreever. it breaks my heart when I see people with a high out put diesel towing 4k pounds and all they have to tow. it's like going off roading with an M1 Abrams tank, so much power and nothing to do with it. Pick any of the big three gas engines (7.3 Godzilla)(6.4 hemi) or (6.6 from GMC/Chevy) any of these three Will do 99% of the towing out there with a lot less upfront and a lot less on maintenance and far more reliable than modern diesels.
My new Gladiator Willys has none of the nanny bells and whistles and I LOVE IT!
My Cherokee was constantly beeping and hitting the brakes in reverse for no reason.
Every time the Cherokee did a nanny thing I had to look around in the menu to turn it off
Just bought a Gladiator too and it is very refreshing to get a vehicle with less nanny bells and whistles than my older truck. Not that my Ram 1500 was bad about that stuff, but the Gladiator is better and so much better than my brother's Mercedes SUV I rode in a bit over Christmas.
It’s funny how we argue gas vs diesel, payload and towing today. When I was growing up in the 80’s & 90’s, my dad drove trucks from the 70’s. Half ton Silverado, 3/4 ton ford camper special, plus others, same heavy caveman camper went into the bed, same boat was pulled behind it. Those underpowered gas V-8’s just went. No matter how much was loaded into it! I don’t even know if there was a sticker saying how much payload or towing they could handle!! Of course gas was under a buck a gallon, so we didn’t care about mpg.
I turn off lane keep assist also. My wife’s suburban damn near crashed one day. There was a construction zone up the road and when I entered it the car was following the lines not seeing the construction obstacles and when I went to follow the cones it was trying to jerk me into the wall and it took serious input to override it.
Hi Steve, I turn the drive Nannys off too. Lane keep assist is a pain, but I do keep the blind side monitoring on.
17 mpg on mixed roads -- not too bad. My F150 gets ~23mpg when I say around 60 on rural highways. Just ordered a F250/Tremor/Lariat/Godzilla so hoping I can do the same..... Great video. Thx.
Thank you! I wish they would publish MPG even if it is not required!
I also keep mine off, while in the right lane the system wants to steer the truck to the off ramp so I have to fight it to stay on the road. It works ok if your not in the lane closest to the off ramps. Left and middle lane driving is ok but I still keep it off.
I have to disagree with on the 4.30 not helping fuel economy. You get more torque multiplication, so less load on the engine for the same acceleration and with the 10 speed and big tires, the rpm is still low enough that taller gearing won't make much difference. Plus. As you load it up, it will still feel strong and relaxed and see more of a difference in fuel economy.
The 4.30 will ever help fuel economy. The overdrive ratios in the 10 speeds high gears are what will affect that. “Feeling strong and relaxed” doesn’t change fuel economy.
@garysarratt1 on a 6 speed it would have an impact changing axle ratios, but with 10 speeds, it might be a 1% difference at higher speeds, over 75 mph.
While HDs are not rated for MPG/literPer100, they should be. Does not mean the EPA should over regulate, but more info for the consumer is better than nothing. And nothing is what we get with HD class trucks.
They haven't changed in fuel economy in over 30 years LOL....my 88 F250 with the 460 V8 gets the same fuel economy, but only 3 gears rather than 10. They were never built to be fuel efficient and if that's what you think you are getting by buying an HD truck you are gonna very quickly regret your buying decision LOL.
Leave the EPA out of it period.
@@wildbill23c This is why I bought an F150 with HDPP. I do want lower operating costs but when I need the power, I'll pay with lower MPG. Still have a payload of nearly 2800lbs with a 4x4 RCLB.
MPG is just about operating cost for a given job. leaving this unmeasured just allows automakers to hide this info from the consumer.
My Toyota has lane keep assist, works pretty good in daylight in good weather, usually turn it off when the lines are hard to see. I can take my hands of the wheel for 10 seconds before I get a warning, overall I like the system, use it as much as possible.
Great video TK! How is the visibility up front? Does hood height limit close visibility compared to other HD trucks?
Picked one up and drove from KC to NC, averaged 13.8 mpg going mostly 68-75 mph. The 7.3's are rarer than the diesel and rarer yet in a Tremor Lariat. I made full use of the adaptive cruise control with lane centering and recv'd the hand on steering wheel warning many times, but not enough for me not to use it.
I factory ordered a 2021 platinum f350 7.3 with the tow package, while towing my bumper tow toy hauler loaded up (11, 000 lbs) I couldn’t get over 6 mpg! The transmission failed at 16,000miles and with no replacement available at the time my ford dealer bought it back to my relief.
Those 2020 and 2021's had serious issues. The 2022's were a bit better, and the 2023's quite a bit better. 2024s are too new but they seem to be relatively solid so far (some people have had them since November/December and have probably put 40k+ miles on some by now).
Glad you were able to get out from under it.
@@SliderFury1 yeah, I dodged a bullet there!
The transmission issue sucks but I guess I don’t get the exclamation about the fuel mileage. I get like 9mpg with my f-150 with the 5.0 towing a 26 foot travel trailer that’s like 6k pounds. A much heavier and larger profile trailer plus a much heavier truck 6 sounds about right.
@@mterwill9 fair enough, I’m used to running diesels , I bought the wife the 7.3 after her last diesel (2017 f350 platinum went through 3 turbos in 40k miles
my 24 7.3 is at the dealer now for a transmission issue. started at 1500 miles,,,YES 1,500 not 15,000. I'm less then pleased
One of the first things I do in any car is shut it off. Was in a friends Kia a couple of weeks ago, and that car defaulted to on every time he started it.
Almost 75k miles on my Carli 3" level F250 w 37's. We love this 7.3 with 3:55 gears and get just about the same or slightly better than what you got. Im thinking the gearing is a trade off for the tires. I also changed my running boards, front valance and wheel lip molding from a Tremor. I also have dual exhaust and a 5star tune that I mainly keep in the 87 octane daily drive/light tow tune. 2025 I will get the same truck. Been extremely reliable and she pulls my skid steer and 17k boat.
Steve this is my dream truck and I love it wouldn’t change anything
Hey! I love your videos. Have you ever noticed the infamous Superduty lean?
I have a brand new 2024 f350 tremor and noticed it leans to the drivers side.
Any ideas how to fix it?
Thanks!
I have a 23 F250 King Ranch. Fuel economy in town is about 13 MPG in town. Up to 17 MPG on highway avg. 75 Mph.
I don’t use the lane system often.
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Could you do a video towing a travel trailer for the mpg loop? Also, I always turn off the lane assist feature.
Hey Steve do you use the super cruise ? In the GM products
That's really impressive. My old 08 GMC pretty much gets that for fuel mileage and its 2000lbs lighter, on 33's with 3.73's and has less power overall. Crazy that they can get that out of a lifted 3/4 ton 4wd truck. Used to be that you were lucky to get 24l/100km or 10mpg with something like that.
About the same mpg as my 2000 Ford Excursion with a V10.
Granted I’m not running 35’s, but it’s paid for.
🔥 Loving the channel
Not far off from what my 2024 xlt non tremor 7.3 with 3.73 gets….. I think I get about 14.5-15.5 mpg in the same scenario…. I only tow heavy 6-8 times a year with a total of 1500-2000 miles…. So diesel was not needed in my case. Great video.
I’m getting your results with same truck. 7.3/3.73 4x4. I idle it a lot at work to keep the heater on and I’m still 15.1 to 15.5.
I normally have lane keep assist on when on long drives. It helps keep the drive smoother. But on short drives around town normally it's not used.
Gas vs diesel. The choice for me used to be obvious, not so much anymore. Thanks for giving more comparison info!
I turn off the lane keep also. I'm betting that you won't be able to shut it off in the near future. More regulations coming down the pipe mandating crap like that.
Forescan to the rescue!
I have a 2024 XLT super cab shortbed with the 7.3 gas engine. I drive 65-70 mph and I’m averaging 15.4 mpg so far in the first 4000 miles of owning it. The 10 speed transmission in 10th at 65 mph is only 1500 rpm. So it’s barely above idle. I have the 3.73 ratio rear end.
I’ve got a tremor with the 7.3 as well, 2020 though and average around 13.5mpg. While the mpg in the 7.3 will always be lower than that of the 6:7, what people fail to talk about is cost/mile. I think doing that and factoring in the extra $10k for the 6.7, it’s VERY hard to justify the diesel.
How are you pulling those MPGs?! I have a 24 250 Platinum Tremor and I'm lucky if I'm hitting 12.5 mpg with eco mode and highway/back road driving.
Excellent episode as always!!! 😁
Thanks again!
Regular or premium gas?
With respect to the extra weight of the diesel, I just put a 2.5" lift with new (Falcon) shocks on my 2022 Super Duty (not Tremor) Powerstroke. What you accurately describe when off-roading is much less noticeable now.
I can tell you the answer. I have a 24 tremor lariat 7.3. Best I’ve seen on eco mode on the hi-way is 13mpg. Normal non towing average is 11.5. Average on a tank including hauling a 14k lb dump trailer around was 10mpg. Not bad for what I need. I replaced a ram 1500 that was giving me 15-16mpg and could never do what the 250 tremor can.
Not bad numbers for a gas HD with 35’s! My 2017 Colorado ZR2 with the gas engine had similar numbers, and couldn’t do the towing and hauling that this truck can!
Wow
It gets similar gas mileage to my stock 2021 Tundra lol. It's really good for a 7.3L but the power also seems low for the displacement?
I always shut off lane keep assist as well unless I am tired.
Good and interesting content
2024 F250 Lariat with 7.3, 18" wheels, and 3.73 rear end. I average 14.2 mpg commuting 35 miles to and from Houston Tx, and 8.2 mpg when towing a 5800 lb travel trailer cross country.
Awesome review 👍
This is the only Ford that is worthwhile to buy. Not Ecoboost, not Hybrid and not EV. True massive gasoline engine which will last decades or close to a lifetime. A gem…Toyota!!! Bring back V8s if not you are going to lose market share.
14 litres per 100 kms…amazing gas mileage.
A 4.30 axle in the Tremor is not too far off. Standard Tire is 275/65R18 with 3.73 axles. Take a axle ratio calculator for the larger tire of 285/75R18 and it comes to a ratio of 4.07 is needed to be equivalent. I would take it if I was towing with that truck.
Hi Steve , i don't like the drive assist in any of my trucks.
My nephew had a 2022 F-250 Tremor gas , he loved the truck right up to the time he sold it, it was a pig on gas, he bought a Tundra TRD PRO with I MAX hybrid engine 437 HP, powerful truck , he’s getting 17-18 mpg average, FOR REAL, and it’s quicker than the Ford
My question is if you have lane keep or various forms of pre collision braking, if you turn these systems off as many do, will you be in trouble with insurance in case of accident?? If they check if these system were turned off could they essentially void your coverage? They could say they are there for safety and your not covered for turning them off?
No. Insurance covers human error, regardless.
I love crossovers barrie lmao!
I don't have constant reminders with my Ram or Mercedes lane keep assist. My GMC is probably the least intrusive lane keep assist.
I can pick how much assistance i want but just leave it off most of the time. Sometimes i use it on long interstate runs but thats about it.
Pretty low fuel consumption for a such big truck. Thanks for review it for us. Greetings
Lane keep assist is exactly that. It isn't autonomous driving. It's meant to keep you in the lanes if you happen to get distracted. It's not blue Cruze or super cruise
What was the payload on this truck?
I have the Lariat without the Tremor which gets 14+ local suburban driving on the highway from NY to TN I get better than 17 not too bad believe Diesel doesn’t get a whole lot better.
I like the color! Although it would be far nicer with flat black trim everywhere. I thought this far into the 21st century we'd be done with the Chrome thing!
My old F150 RC with a 6 cylinder/5spd only gets 14mpg on the highway....And i can only tow around 6k pounds
Lane keep assist and radar cruise got turned off on the way home from the dealership.
14.2 MPG is the best my 2022 7.3 Lariat Tremor got and averages around 12.4 smile’s per gallon.
That’s horrible mileage. Our 2019 Yukon XL returns 20 to 21 in the V8 mode, with the 4 cylinder mode locked out. Will tow 7k.
That truck gets much better MPG than a Tacoma I saw on another channel with a special throttle controller to save fuel.
I actually really like these trucks as a Toyota fan. Toyota doesn’t make them so it’s no biggie haha . I like the 7.3 and the GM 6.6 although it’s less powerful.
I briefly entertained the thought of getting one in the future just simply for the heavier duty frame payload and towing capacity over my 5.7 Tundra. ….but after really looking it over I don’t tow above 8-10k and it really makes me realize how solid the old second gen tundras are . Even outdated it still makes 401ft lb at 3600 rpm which is around 400 rpm less than the 7.3s 475ft lb I believe . And I get around 16 mpg in the summer . Real world more guys than not , I’m seeing 11-13mpg with a few exceptions here and there on the 7.3.
I still like them , but this is my 2nd 5.7 Tundra and if you know how to tow they are beasts .
5000lb +…simply tow/haul S5.
Under 5000 S5
It’s better than my buddies 2024 tundra with no life or anything special and stock tires. They are dura tracs but stock size.
I get 21 US mpg from Sudbury to Timmins with my 4.8 V8 4x4
14mpg, about the same as what my 88 F250 with the 460 V8 would get, with less than 1/2 the gears LOL. They're work trucks, they're built to haul and tow not to be fuel efficient LOL. I get around 14-15mpg with my 99 F250 with the V10 out on the highway, but around 10-11mpg in town LOL. So...my 87 Ford Ranger is my daily driver, it gets around 19-20mpg in town and 22-24mpg highway.
That 4.30 gear ratio is great for towing, not so great for cruising though LOL. My 88 F250 if I remember right has the 4.10 or 4.30 gears too...my 99 F250 has the 3.73 gears.
My 2018 tundra is just barely above that.
Better than other HDs I owned in the past. There should be, with all the science and tech, a way to get more MPGs. We are so smart, right?
1500 Denali Ultimate was annoying too. I turned it off a month ago.
My 2024 3500 L5P with lane departure warning is good. It makes the seat vibrate on the side I'm getting too close to. No pop-up on the dashboard or windshield. Super Cruise is included in the High Country package according to the sales person. I declined.
Gas mileage. My 2015 LML six-speed auto with a tune would get 2-3 MPG better fuel mileage than this L5P ten-speed. I'm surprised!
The truck has 4.10 gears, bad for fuel efficiency, but there’s a 10 speed automatic, with several overdrive ratios I’m guessing, what are the revs at highway speed?
its 4.30 gears on the tremor.
13.7 all around. 30000 miles some towing
Thoughts on the auto braking? I turn mine off.
I had a rental Nissan Maxima with collision avoidance while my old F150 with no driver aids was in the shop. In the carpool lane it had 3 false positives hitting the brakes pretty hard. I was doing highway speeds while the regular lanes were 20-30mph. Scared the hell out of me.
That is exactly the same fuel mileage as my father in laws 6 liter gas GMC HD plain Jane pickup.
My f250 with 6.8 in economy mode at 61 mph I can get 18 mpg and at 71 mph I get 16mpg going from ga to Nc
I HATE that "Keep your hands on the wheel" part of mine.
I find that average mpg amazing for such a large heavy duty truck, I owned a 2000 Nissan 3.3 V6 manual 4x4 crew cab that got about 17mpg no matter what kind of tire or driving style.
Kudos to Ford and the other truck manufacturers for building some amazing vehicles.
Great video TK👍
Actually it isn't that great honestly...in over 30 years they haven't gotten any better fuel economy. It gets the same fuel economy as my 88 F250 with the 460 V8, and C6 automatic transmission....which is a 3 speed transmission. The only thing that's changed is the quality has gotten worse with all the electronic nannies they have put into today's vehicles.
Lower rear end ratio would definitely improve things.
Ill keep my trusty DMAX.
4.30 rear axle ratio....
Hell my 2006 150 5.4 3.55 axle never got more than 15 average
I don't use lane keep or blue cruise on my F150 95% of the time; it nags me worse than my wife! 😂
I don't think in the HD sector that the fuel figure is too significant compared to range. How far can it go with a heavy load or towing. I don't think that there are many HD owners who buy these trucks to cruise around empty. Irrespective of trim levels and luxuries, they are work trucks. Put the HDs to work and talk about range!
I would have thought it would do better that. 6.8L V10 with 3.73 gears is about the same mpg. Im sure your truck is alot nicer though.
I shut off the lane keep assistance for the most part.
Big displacement v8 always over deliver on highway drivings, 14 is actually align with my past experience. However, that 7. 3 will cost an arm n leg if driven in toronto bumper to bumper traffic. I prob wont go with the gas engine if I tow over 10k lbs constantly. All about how do you use the truck.
God those front ends keep getting more and more hideous by the year
I thought they would look better in the flesh. But they didn't.
Unfortunately, they recently have done the same to Mavericks and Rangers.
Agreed. Also they are incredibly high. The hood height is crazy on modern HD trucks. How long before we get a forward facing camera to be able to see what's within 10 feet of the front bumper?
Fords are basically a giant shoe box bumbling down the road. No muscular curves, no styling to speak of, just an ugly square/rectangle with ridiculously long headlights. Not a fan at all.
@@liamrobinson2084I believe this Tremor trim already has them all around.
Last Gen looked pretty good so I wouldn’t say they get uglier every year. Just this particular year.
So what is the point of assisted steering if you can not give your arms a rest on a long drive?
It instead seems to be designed to help the aim of those drivers who can't actually drive between the lines.
It’s designed so FMC can say “we have x”, like GM, and then try to make it work okay. I may be fine in a year or two.
I have a 2023 F-150 Tremor 402a I can't stand the self-driving stuff I turned it all off even the cruise control drives me nuts it can't seem to decide what the speed limit is
Mazda is so configurable. In terms of lane keep and such.
We have a 21 RAV4 and the lane keep is off. We also have a 24 Mazda 3 and we cant turn it off and it is a pain.
It's a real shame that warnings pop up, there should just be one warning when you start and that is it, the whole purpose is for the cpu to take over, why have to fight what it is doing? If anything input from the driver should set the cpu to shut off!
I bought a Hyundai palisade and it has lane keep and adaptive cruise it depends on my mood if i turn it on or off but yeah it’s annoying all the messages. There is a thing called too much technology
Regular or super?
87 Octane or better
I have a 2019 Tacoma TRD Pro on 33's and get the same gas mileage. I'd rather have the Tremor!
Pretty sure my 2017 f150 5L says I get 14L/100km.... yikes
Its not that hard to learn how to use lane keeping. Gentle pressure is all it takes. Granted each system is a little different but give me a few dozen miles and ill figure out what the system likes.
I’m averaging 21.5mpg with 24 AT4 LZ0. That’s with a little medium towing. Insane.
No, you are not.
Yea, you are. I do myself. Even towing 7000 lbs I get 17-18. Unreal fuel mileage. Drinks def towing though.
That's actually possible, especially with a 1500. Owners are reporting 27 mpg. So with some light towing, I could definitely see that number.
And this is at a mile high
Did America go to the metric system? 😮
No, but Canada did - that’s where we live.
@@TruckKing oh, was starting to sweat. (The details.) 👍
4.30 with a 10 speed🤔