I prefer the Antagonize, Greet, Antagonize combo. Just leaves most NPCs actually mad because Arthur usually always throws some type of shade after pretending to apologize with that combo 😂 I appreciate how many ways Rockstar put in the game of making fun of people.
"When you hunt your enemy, you ultimately search for yourself." Uncle and Dutch were two sides of the same coin, one just didn't want more than he needed and one wanted everything else
"Damn it, did he find out? Was he the only one? Harlow, you bastard, this was a trap, of course, he just wants to trigger me into showing who I am. I'll laugh it off and pretend I love him to see if he backs off into thinking I am a god like the rest of them. Yes, Van Der Linde you're a genius!"
R* delivered big time with rdr2. I have been playlng alot of different games and genre since septembre, nothing come even close to this game, the amount of details in this game is completely insane and it makes alot of AAA studios look like rookies.
@@madkitty2801 I haven’t played a ton of modern “cinematic” games but this had by far the most believable human presence that I’ve seen. You really don’t have to use any imagination to fill in the gaps of what they’re expressing, it’s all there.
The “voice actors” were really just acting. The only difference between what they do and movie actors do is they see nothing and wear wonky mocap suits. They’re really very talented.
I like the way Dutch is standing there. Its like he was on the other side of camp minding his own business reading a book or smth and as soon as he hears criticism he teleports to the source of ridicule. Honestly really speaks to his thinly veiled insecurity. Its why blocking is also good for conveying character dynamics.
He was walking away after trying to give a speech Uncle called him out on something in his speech, and he tried walking away, but Uncle kept calling him out
This is why Uncle is the most dangerous member of the gang. Uncle had zero issue calling Dutch & Micah out on their bullshit. Neither one dared touch him.
My theory is that they once saw uncle do some crazy stuff with a gun (shootouts, duels, etc) and that maybe sort of made them contemplate that if they try to kill him or lay a finger they would get killed first
@Sojiny well he isn't dumb, and there's more to him than meets the eye. Micah was once seen antagonizing him and uncle didn't let that slide. Micah never tried that again, he may be an old coot but in his younger days I'm sure Dutch knew how dangerous he was.
@@NateS917nooooo one, plans like dutch, dreams of mangos like dutch. No one is as fanatical and dreamy like dutch. When i was a lad i had 4 dozen plans every morning to help me be dutch. And now that im grown i make 5 dozen plans, so im roughly the size of tahiti
I like how Uncle’s the guy nobody takes serious because he’s always lazing about, but everything he says makes perfect sense because he never holds back. Underrated character.
Definitely underrated. He is definitely smart for surviving for so long living such a life, and yet he is loyal enough to stay with John when all is lost. Uncle is awesome.
Cause I don’t think he was ever used to anyone talking shit to his face in the gang. He knew he’d look horrible I’d he did anything to uncle who’s was seemingly harmless and a happy go lucky old dude. Wether as John… the only other person to vocally question him.. he did see him as a threat and someone he needs to suppress
@@ElPresidenteMargzAnd this is a good point actually, Dutch leaves John to die not once, but at least twice after John questions him, an indirect way of getting rid of him and then of Arthur when he sees Arthur supporting John a lot more than him. But there is one thing I don't get, when Arthur is kidnapped by Colm, it looks like Dutch was going to abandon him, which is highlighted in their dialogues after, and at that point Hosea was still around, it was before the possible concussion and before John started questioning Dutch really
@@macanaeh Because Dutch never “changed” and if he did the change occurred in Blackwater. He’s the same man in chapter 2 as he is in chapter 6 except he’s gotten more reckless and knows that the gang doesn’t fully support him anymore. As for Arthur being left behind with Colm, I think Micah might’ve convinced Dutch that Arthur wandered off after their meeting and later that night is when Arthur returns. If Arthur had been gone longer than a day Dutch might’ve known something was wrong but he has Arthur’s back at that point in the story so I doubt he intentionally left Arthur
@@macanaeh I feel like because of the way they kidnap Arthur, as well as the fact that Colm seems to move as much, if not more, than Dutch and his gang makes this more complex, meaning they probably would have taken a good while to find him even if they had been looking, and also Arthur isn't gone for too long, and outlaws aren't really bound to a code of ethics, so they may have thought he simply got distracted or had to run, for whatever reason.
It's all a mask. Chapter 1 Dutch was chapter 6 Dutch just under a mask. Dutch was always a psychopath driven by ambition and greed, using his gang members as tools.
That "I wanna kill you" was REAL bruh 💀 Uncle called Dutch out and he couldn’t believe that someone he thinks is dumber than a bag of rocks let alone him just saw Dutch for all he was 😭😭
Uncle may be sitting around all the time with his go-to excuse for LUMBAGO, but when something is very important or required of him, he gets it done, he's also actually one of the smartest and wisest of the group as well, I don't think Dutch was surprised because Uncle didn't seem to be that intelligent, but instead because Uncle is too smart and cunning for his own good. When Uncle called him out for his true colors, Dutch was not pleased with that, he knew Uncle that crafty and sly type of guy, but this time Uncle hit very close to home, took a critical shot 🎯 🎯 🎯 and devastating blow 💥💥💥 at him as he exposed that Dutch, the leader of the gang, is gradually falling off and losing that leadership role.
@@OGGrubKill3rUncle existed doing nothing in a time when doing nothing meant you starved he’s absolutely amazing in every way shape or form. RIP uncle.
He outlived the most deadliest gunslingers, gangsters, literal mobsters and robbers of the era and even put some of them in the ground, helped John and Abigail raise Jack into a young man and {REDACTED;SPOILERS} protecting his family from hordes of gunmen armed to the freaking teeth. A real American cowboy 🤠; can I get a yeehaw heehaw for my boi Uncle?
Lumbago is Uncle's excuse to not do work But as much as he says it, you wouldn't think anything happens on John's farm. Cuz John doesn't do all the work, and the sheep farm runs smoothly. The game just doesn't make Uncle look flattering wile he acts lazy
@@scoobydoo2587 in his foresight he was doubtful the van der linde gang could recover but he would never have accounted for dutch becoming some self exiled feudal king in the mountains.
Not gonna lie, got real tense when Dutch started getting that crazy gleam in his eyes. If it was just he and Uncle, I don't think Uncle would've ever been seen again.
@@koi5179 Well I think under the right circumstances he would. Remember he killed a girl on the blackwater ferry. The strange man in rdr1 explains that it was gruesome to John. We never see it but Dutch I think was being held together by Hosea. If you look closely in most situations without Hosea in his company he comes fully undone. After he hit his head on the trolley station job I think it did fully push the switch. I think he had a concussion and his usual persona was hard to maintain. When he killed Bronte and etc
@@SuperCabrito14 Running? More like steadily falling until he hit rock bottom, but yeah, the point still stands. 😆 Uncle a real one, never backed down even with LUMBAGO ✊🏽
Uncle seemed to be an idiot, but actually He wasn't. He was the only one to understand who Dutch was ... Nerver seen this cinematic if I remember well, tank you Cartz for your posts !!
@@diabeto1216maybe not the most, but he can sure see through people and understands them and what they want better than anyone else, even if he rarely shows it, as evidenced by this and when he tells John that Abigail won't want to live in a dilapidated shack
John also saw straight through his bs since chapter 2, which is why in chapter 6 Dutch and Micah pit John, Arthur and Uncle against the whole gang, with all of the unloyal talk
I think besides Arthur Dutch is the only one who really knew how dangerous Uncle was and there are many theories that Unc is Actually the original red dead slinger Red Harlow Himself, he was smart and low key, and he had Tabs on Everything because he was always in the background just watching, listening, imagine if he actually wanted to do any kind of damage to the camp how easily he could execute that
I can see why people think Uncle is Red Harlow, he's not only unafraid but he's essentially making fun of a malignant narcissist to his face in a setting they can't do anything, I feel like Uncle enjoyed the death stare he got from Dutch never antagonise uncle, he a real G
@@lolpeakaboo Yeah, because he’s an old drunkard now. He’s very clearly shown to be experienced at least in some way with firearms when he helps John defend their property at the end of the first game. Sure, he didn’t make it out, but like John I don’t necessarily think he planned to.
Uncle is the perfect example of the smart man who pretends to be a bumbling fool so that he never has to be responsible for anything Funny how he outlives most of them
@@Entity527 he never is useless , he tends to have good ideas , he just bumbles a lot to keep his persona up Dutch would NEVER keep someone completely useless around
@@temp1326 No based on everything R* has told us. Revolver is in a different universe. So when you hear people mention the events of Revolver in the Redemption universe it's because they are telling a story. Its Canon that the events of Revolver are just mythical wild west tales being told in Redemption.
Eh, it doesn't quite line up. My headcanon is that he was a soldier turned rancher who had a wife and kids. Built a ranch for them with his own two hands only to lose all of them to some disease. A meaningless death. Explains why he sees no value in hard work anymore, what did his hard work earn him or his family? This is pure yarn though, AFAIK nothing aside from him mentioning being a rancher in the penultimate mission of rdr1 really points to this, but imo its the best backstory he could have.
This right camp convo here proves how detailed rdr2 is from Dutch’s annoyed laugh that someone can see right through him to his suppressed facial expressions that he wants to kill uncle so badly but can’t this game is truly a masterpiece
True, and he didn't listen to Hosea when he clearly knows it was a bad idea to rob the Saint Denis bank after killing the crook who used to run the city and all that heat from the failed trolley robbery.
@@pepethefrog6809Hosea literally waa the one who proposed the Saint Denis heist and Dutch was the one on the fence before Hosea and Arthur talked him in.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 That's coz he keeps saying they need money. Hosea's plan was to lay low somewhere else but Dutch brought them to where they were. He had no choice but to come up with something.
Dutch was putting on the good face with Uncle out there so as to not come across to the rest of the gang as a leader who can’t take criticism. You just know he was boiling in his tent after that though lmao
And Uncle knew that he had him. Now, Dutch is a mercurial fellow and you can't guarantee your safety if you slight him, and Uncle knows this, but Uncle is not a coward so he still speaks the truth. He was pretty safe, though, as Dutch has to play politics and laugh the whole thing off.
Uncle is an intellectual man who drowns his past in Whiskey. He pretends to be a senile old man but he is always making the conscious decision to play the fool. In some moments like this he breaks the character he’s formed and drops some real wisdom.
What Uncle said was true, even in the end of RDR1. Dutch wanted to run a crusade of freedom, with his knights, the last vestige of power the modern man could muster at the time.
From start to finish of the game we could see Dutch slowly change as a person. He let stress get to himself and to take over his used to be charming self. The game is really well written and acted.
Crazy how cinematic this encounter can be by only placing the camera more close to their faces. The devs really put such realistic emotion on their faces even when this wasn’t even a cutscene. Well done rockstar 👏
Uncle was right about Dutch. "There goes the greatest man we know, and even he's lost." He spends the entire game lost, trying to find ways to keep his gang together and therefore, his way of life alive in a world that had moved on. Dutch would never truly admit that his time had come to an end, until his final moments with John on top of that mountain. It's sad really.
This is why I love antagonizing Dutch any time I am in camp. Not only is it funny, it's absolutely cute, in an angry and chaotic chihuahua sort of way.
It’s wild to me that they can have some of the deepest and most profound and revealing pieces of dialogue given by some characters as missable interactions this game is a masterpiece
The fuckin chuckle on him is pure "thats you mate, done" vibes buts exits as if he knows hes gonna be burned later. Almost at the stake. Charles is the true hero of that "uncle"
Uncle ditches the gang when things got bad enough, but notice he stands and fights for John and his family, he knew in his heart they were worth it and John was turning his life around.
"right now, i would like to kill you." The delivery of that line is chilling. It is so hard to tell when he's being serious and when he's messing with you and that is so realistic. I know people just like that irl and let me tell ya, they scare me sometimes.
Credit to youtube.com/@Point_Zero for the amazing cinematic work
what camp was this ?
@@badgojo6733 most likely beaver hollow
Yea awesome shot’s especially that one when uncles head turns back to look at dutch when he says “better? Your kind of better”
And wen dutch said “i’d like to kill you”
Maybe I should try this game
Uncle really did the "Antagonize, Antagonize, Defuse" combo
Well, I'll catch you later then.
@@ChrisMathers3501 nice to see manners aint dead yet
I prefer the Antagonize, Greet, Antagonize combo.
Just leaves most NPCs actually mad because Arthur usually always throws some type of shade after pretending to apologize with that combo 😂 I appreciate how many ways Rockstar put in the game of making fun of people.
Uncle’s words are E for everyone
*Okay, let's talk more later.*
“There goes the greatest man we know, even he is lost.” Fuck that’s heavy
This line hit so hard when I heard it
He was directly talking to us
Word
Pretty weak, clearly you don't know American literature
@@gmoney9490 erm actually 🤓
“Put me out of my majesty your misery” best line ever
You sir ,are a fish
You fish, are a sir
Sir you, are a fish
Sir fish, you are
Are you a fish, sir
They're laughing on the outside but on the inside they're both having Deathnote levels of dialouge within seconds
"When you hunt your enemy, you ultimately search for yourself."
Uncle and Dutch were two sides of the same coin, one just didn't want more than he needed and one wanted everything else
"Damn it, did he find out? Was he the only one? Harlow, you bastard, this was a trap, of course, he just wants to trigger me into showing who I am. I'll laugh it off and pretend I love him to see if he backs off into thinking I am a god like the rest of them. Yes, Van Der Linde you're a genius!"
@ronaldputman as the old saying goes, can't bullshit a bullshitter. That's why they get along because they're both bullshitters
“ Put me out of my majesty, your misery.”
Such a witty reverse remark. Uncle is clever with words.
Bro what? You said complete opposite of what you said lmao
@@BearsNGym. 😂😂😂you made me laugh when I went back and read my comment
@@BearsNGym.what you talkin bout?
@@missd818 open your eyes and read 👍🏻
Damn i never really read into it like that, i thought he was just trying to defuse the clearly dangerous situation lol
It’s really technically impressive that you can actually see suppressed murderous rage on an NPC’s face.
R* delivered big time with rdr2. I have been playlng alot of different games and genre since septembre, nothing come even close to this game, the amount of details in this game is completely insane and it makes alot of AAA studios look like rookies.
And this isn't even a cutscene.... just a camp encounter
@@chango.-. It sure seems like every single interaction was fully motion captured, cut scene or not. They’re always expressive.
@@madkitty2801 I haven’t played a ton of modern “cinematic” games but this had by far the most believable human presence that I’ve seen. You really don’t have to use any imagination to fill in the gaps of what they’re expressing, it’s all there.
The “voice actors” were really just acting. The only difference between what they do and movie actors do is they see nothing and wear wonky mocap suits. They’re really very talented.
I love how uncle just shows up one day and stays cause everyone loves him lols
He stays cuz he just happens to inhabit the place, i wouldn't say everyone outwardly "loves" him
@@s667f2 Dutch didnt cut him lose bc of his personality, he was absolutely loved.
Shoot Micah,Karen and problem with Pinkerton's partly solved I guess?
Everyone’s favourite uncle
Uncle was a pimp
Both Micah and Dutch seem to wanna kill Uncle, hmm... He's one of the few people who calls them out on their bullshit.
@@SuperCabrito14 but dutch
@@Z4venand healthy Arthur
@@JeniOnly You are such an npc, you know that? saying the exact same thing everybody says all the time. It’s annoying and not unique at all.
@@Lineproof Did three words really trigger you that much?
@@Lineproof don’t really care lol
I like the way Dutch is standing there. Its like he was on the other side of camp minding his own business reading a book or smth and as soon as he hears criticism he teleports to the source of ridicule. Honestly really speaks to his thinly veiled insecurity. Its why blocking is also good for conveying character dynamics.
He was walking away after trying to give a speech
Uncle called him out on something in his speech, and he tried walking away, but Uncle kept calling him out
@@Mr2010forgeben, the man does love to pole the bear. 🤣
This is why Uncle is the most dangerous member of the gang. Uncle had zero issue calling Dutch & Micah out on their bullshit. Neither one dared touch him.
I bet Uncle is a pretty decent quickdraw but keeps it to himself should he ever need to escape from a maniac with a gun
My theory is that they once saw uncle do some crazy stuff with a gun (shootouts, duels, etc) and that maybe sort of made them contemplate that if they try to kill him or lay a finger they would get killed first
How is he dangerous
He was once known as the “One Shot Kid” or if the theories are right he is the Red Harlow
@Sojiny well he isn't dumb, and there's more to him than meets the eye. Micah was once seen antagonizing him and uncle didn't let that slide. Micah never tried that again, he may be an old coot but in his younger days I'm sure Dutch knew how dangerous he was.
Dutch dressing similarly to his rdr1 appearance ties it together very nicely
True. I never noticed that! Good catch
I thought it was Pedro Pescal as Mario at first
He looks like Gaston
@@NateS917nooooo one, plans like dutch, dreams of mangos like dutch. No one is as fanatical and dreamy like dutch.
When i was a lad i had 4 dozen plans every morning to help me be dutch. And now that im grown i make 5 dozen plans, so im roughly the size of tahiti
@@justice_of_TH-cam👏
uncle spitting facts while dutch spitting British flags
I think ill show my self out lol
Tf u mean British flags?
@@ArkayaStudios it's kings and queens
@@peezyoffical they should've said Union Jacks, that's a little more accurate and true
@@peezyoffical wtf r u talking about
I like how you made it look like a real cutscene, makes it look way better
Oh ok yeah I was confused for a minute lol I never remembered this happening lol
It is a real cutscene ...
@@mohamedhosh3003 no,it’s in the game,but isn’t a cutscene
How does he make it like that??
@@avapilsen close up and camera angles. Like a movie 🎬
That facial expression from Dutch shook me..the amount of suppressed and attempted hidden rage behind those eyes you can tell he meant it
He would dare threaten a man disabled with terminal lumbago, what a coward
Just wait until you find out what Micah does to Arthur if you have low honor.
@@zacharyparkhurst-whidden366for those wondering, If you have low honor at the end of chapter 6, micah will in fact, NOT buy you a cake.
@@rubentelur john doesnt buy a cake for micah either
@@angrywaffle427 😀🗿
Cry harder
I like how Uncle’s the guy nobody takes serious because he’s always lazing about, but everything he says makes perfect sense because he never holds back. Underrated character.
Definitely underrated. He is definitely smart for surviving for so long living such a life, and yet he is loyal enough to stay with John when all is lost. Uncle is awesome.
He just sits back and observes everyone
RDR3 play as Uncle :-)
i love uncle. hes def my fav parasite. lol
Dutch was trying to laugh it off but you could tell by his face that he legitimately was furious
Cause I don’t think he was ever used to anyone talking shit to his face in the gang. He knew he’d look horrible I’d he did anything to uncle who’s was seemingly harmless and a happy go lucky old dude.
Wether as John… the only other person to vocally question him.. he did see him as a threat and someone he needs to suppress
@@ElPresidenteMargzAnd this is a good point actually, Dutch leaves John to die not once, but at least twice after John questions him, an indirect way of getting rid of him and then of Arthur when he sees Arthur supporting John a lot more than him. But there is one thing I don't get, when Arthur is kidnapped by Colm, it looks like Dutch was going to abandon him, which is highlighted in their dialogues after, and at that point Hosea was still around, it was before the possible concussion and before John started questioning Dutch really
@@macanaeh Because Dutch never “changed” and if he did the change occurred in Blackwater. He’s the same man in chapter 2 as he is in chapter 6 except he’s gotten more reckless and knows that the gang doesn’t fully support him anymore. As for Arthur being left behind with Colm, I think Micah might’ve convinced Dutch that Arthur wandered off after their meeting and later that night is when Arthur returns. If Arthur had been gone longer than a day Dutch might’ve known something was wrong but he has Arthur’s back at that point in the story so I doubt he intentionally left Arthur
@@macanaeh I feel like because of the way they kidnap Arthur, as well as the fact that Colm seems to move as much, if not more, than Dutch and his gang makes this more complex, meaning they probably would have taken a good while to find him even if they had been looking, and also Arthur isn't gone for too long, and outlaws aren't really bound to a code of ethics, so they may have thought he simply got distracted or had to run, for whatever reason.
It's all a mask. Chapter 1 Dutch was chapter 6 Dutch just under a mask. Dutch was always a psychopath driven by ambition and greed, using his gang members as tools.
That "I wanna kill you" was REAL bruh 💀 Uncle called Dutch out and he couldn’t believe that someone he thinks is dumber than a bag of rocks let alone him just saw Dutch for all he was 😭😭
Uncle may be sitting around all the time with his go-to excuse for LUMBAGO, but when something is very important or required of him, he gets it done, he's also actually one of the smartest and wisest of the group as well, I don't think Dutch was surprised because Uncle didn't seem to be that intelligent, but instead because Uncle is too smart and cunning for his own good. When Uncle called him out for his true colors, Dutch was not pleased with that, he knew Uncle that crafty and sly type of guy, but this time Uncle hit very close to home, took a critical shot 🎯 🎯 🎯 and devastating blow 💥💥💥 at him as he exposed that Dutch, the leader of the gang, is gradually falling off and losing that leadership role.
@@OGGrubKill3rshut up
Dutch changef
@@OGGrubKill3rUncle existed doing nothing in a time when doing nothing meant you starved he’s absolutely amazing in every way shape or form. RIP uncle.
He outlived the most deadliest gunslingers, gangsters, literal mobsters and robbers of the era and even put some of them in the ground, helped John and Abigail raise Jack into a young man and {REDACTED;SPOILERS} protecting his family from hordes of gunmen armed to the freaking teeth. A real American cowboy 🤠; can I get a yeehaw heehaw for my boi Uncle?
Turned a random in-game encounter into a cutscene. Honestly impressive!
What’s scary is if the rest of gang wasn’t around, Dutch probably would’ve killed him.
Uncle really was one of the smartest characters in the gang, even with lumbago
Which he totally made up
Just a nerf
Lumbago is Uncle's excuse to not do work
But as much as he says it, you wouldn't think anything happens on John's farm. Cuz John doesn't do all the work, and the sheep farm runs smoothly. The game just doesn't make Uncle look flattering wile he acts lazy
@@delanovanraalte3646 wym? lumbago is a slow and painful death
@@blayedd_ holy shit it's an actual something but it should be healed with 8 weeks
Wisest gang member by far
That's true him and Hosea I'd say
I'd say that title goes to Hosea. He saw it coming in the very beginning of the story
Him and Hosea, old guys in a profession where you die early.
Hosea and uncle and charles were the smartest
@@scoobydoo2587 in his foresight he was doubtful the van der linde gang could recover but he would never have accounted for dutch becoming some self exiled feudal king in the mountains.
I know it shouldn't be, but when he called him "your misery, " that was kinda deep 💀
I mean it is kinda deep, he worded it that way on purpose
I'm deep and this is 14
@@ProGamer-lk9qw lmfao 💀
@@ProGamer-lk9qw Uncle?
@@corvus71 nephew😏
And Dutch is wearing same cloths from rdr1
nah. this one is red and the rdr1 one is brown
No in RDR1 he’s wearing furs and animal hides. Idk why people see a red shirt and automatically think it looks like his tan one from the first game
That look in Dutch’s eyes… his real face
Not gonna lie, got real tense when Dutch started getting that crazy gleam in his eyes. If it was just he and Uncle, I don't think Uncle would've ever been seen again.
Nah Dutch would have gotten folded by Uncle. Lumbago has been beating at him for years so nothing Dutch does is gonna be able to stop the one shot kid
@@AlvosElRey I approve of this message.
You mean Dutch would've never been seen again
dutch was angry but not a homocidal maniac at that point of the game
@@koi5179 Well I think under the right circumstances he would. Remember he killed a girl on the blackwater ferry. The strange man in rdr1 explains that it was gruesome to John. We never see it but Dutch I think was being held together by Hosea. If you look closely in most situations without Hosea in his company he comes fully undone. After he hit his head on the trolley station job I think it did fully push the switch. I think he had a concussion and his usual persona was hard to maintain. When he killed Bronte and etc
Uncle has 1,000% more integrity than dutch ever has shown us to have.
Uncle died fighting while Dutch died running. That's the difference
@@SuperCabrito14 Running? More like steadily falling until he hit rock bottom, but yeah, the point still stands. 😆
Uncle a real one, never backed down even with LUMBAGO ✊🏽
No? Dutch has so many great qualities
@@sam-ht6qvyou have not finished rdr2 if you stand by that.
@@The_Enclave_Is_Back He's always had good qualities, he was never pure evil
Uncle seemed to be an idiot, but actually He wasn't. He was the only one to understand who Dutch was ... Nerver seen this cinematic if I remember well, tank you Cartz for your posts !!
It's a camp event, not a cinematic
Not the only one, Hosea got it too
Honestly, Uncle is probably the most intelligent in the gang. He's just lazy and rough around the edges. Lol
@@diabeto1216maybe not the most, but he can sure see through people and understands them and what they want better than anyone else, even if he rarely shows it, as evidenced by this and when he tells John that Abigail won't want to live in a dilapidated shack
As many jesters are. Seemingly idiotic, but often far from it.
Dutches mood swings are terrifying
Uncle is the only one who saw right through Dutch and he went from being a character I saw as a joke to being one of my favorite side characters
Yeah, Hosea was worried about what Dutch was doing but Uncle just knew exactly what was happening.
John also saw straight through his bs since chapter 2, which is why in chapter 6 Dutch and Micah pit John, Arthur and Uncle against the whole gang, with all of the unloyal talk
Dutch forgave Uncle because he knows that Uncle can one-shot kid style him.
I think besides Arthur Dutch is the only one who really knew how dangerous Uncle was and there are many theories that Unc is Actually the original red dead slinger Red Harlow Himself, he was smart and low key, and he had Tabs on Everything because he was always in the background just watching, listening, imagine if he actually wanted to do any kind of damage to the camp how easily he could execute that
Rockstar confirmed that uncle is not red Harlow
@@ryliejamow4571 🤦🏾♂️They couldn't even give uncle the satisfaction of "it May be possible" 😂
@@ryliejamow4571 🤓
@@ryliejamow4571 Rockstar weren't around in the 1800's America, how would they know
I can see why people think Uncle is Red Harlow, he's not only unafraid but he's essentially making fun of a malignant narcissist to his face in a setting they can't do anything, I feel like Uncle enjoyed the death stare he got from Dutch
never antagonise uncle, he a real G
no throughout the entire game uncle always talks about how he wasn’t skilled enough to do big missions or such
@@lolpeakaboo what, you aint never heard of lying?
@@lolpeakaboo Yeah, because he’s an old drunkard now. He’s very clearly shown to be experienced at least in some way with firearms when he helps John defend their property at the end of the first game. Sure, he didn’t make it out, but like John I don’t necessarily think he planned to.
Uncle is the perfect example of the smart man who pretends to be a bumbling fool so that he never has to be responsible for anything
Funny how he outlives most of them
And his death was honourable as f*ck too. He wasn't completely a free loader and he gave his life to hold the ranch.
Odysseus
@@Entity527 he never is useless , he tends to have good ideas , he just bumbles a lot to keep his persona up
Dutch would NEVER keep someone completely useless around
@@Christhegreatbro What about Reverend Swanson lmao
@@talaldirar4275 well he buried the bodies of the gang members that died.
the face expression and eyes says it all, Dutch saw in his head how he killed Uncle in that moment, he meant it. Such good acting in this, love it
Man uncle is such an underrated character
The look in Dutchs eyes gave me chills.
Hes lost, slowly losing it..
Yep. Uncle struck a nerve and you can tell Dutch was genuinely livid.
Funny thing is we weren't supposed to see that face up close. Another case of Rockstar's attention of detail
The fucking detail R* put into this game. It wasn’t even a cutscene either, just a random interaction that you get at a specific time
Crazy how you can make a simple camp interaction into a cinematic cutscene, shows you how detailed this game is
Uncle got his charisma stats maxed out
Uncle saw it. He warned, and when it came down to it, saved who he could.
Dutch looking like a grizzled AI art of realistic Mario in them suspenders.
"Tell him Red Harlow says hello"
“ the dates don’t match up 🤓”
uncle is red harlow 🍺🗿
Where’s red Harlow at
@@Veggie_Balcony not even that. Red Harlow isn't even real. He's a folktale.
@@chandlerbraaten847based on uncle ??🙀🙀
@@temp1326 No based on everything R* has told us. Revolver is in a different universe. So when you hear people mention the events of Revolver in the Redemption universe it's because they are telling a story. Its Canon that the events of Revolver are just mythical wild west tales being told in Redemption.
The fact that Uncle doesn't even care about Dutch's threat shows how much of a badass he is. I adore the theory that he's Red Harlow.
Eh, it doesn't quite line up. My headcanon is that he was a soldier turned rancher who had a wife and kids. Built a ranch for them with his own two hands only to lose all of them to some disease. A meaningless death. Explains why he sees no value in hard work anymore, what did his hard work earn him or his family?
This is pure yarn though, AFAIK nothing aside from him mentioning being a rancher in the penultimate mission of rdr1 really points to this, but imo its the best backstory he could have.
the devs debunked the myth that he could be Red Harlow
"Uncle is Red Harlow": 🗿🍺👑
"The Dates Don't Match, Its a folktale, Rockstar confirmed that..." 🤓🤡🤓
That theory has more holes than John after his ranch gets stormed by the army
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When he said he wanted to kill him, he was serious.
I always liked how Uncle reveals how clever he really is when he interacts with Dutch and Micah in particular.
This right camp convo here proves how detailed rdr2 is from Dutch’s annoyed laugh that someone can see right through him to his suppressed facial expressions that he wants to kill uncle so badly but can’t this game is truly a masterpiece
I love that little laugh Dutch does walking up to Uncle
How do you get this scene
@@Zavier3413this is a camp interaction he just makes it look like a cutscene.
Dude, some of the deepest dialogue I've came across in camp, whoever wrote this is genius
“One who acts a fool is not a fool”
Nobody talking about the cinematic angles in this. Someday should make an rdr movie with that skill
"Put me out of my majesty, your misery" may be favourite line from Uncle
''You're kinda better.'' Explained the whole story.
Left 2 people dead that he once called ''son''.
True, and he didn't listen to Hosea when he clearly knows it was a bad idea to rob the Saint Denis bank after killing the crook who used to run the city and all that heat from the failed trolley robbery.
@@pepethefrog6809 He shouldn’t of Robbed Leviticus Cornwall in the first place tho
@@chrishilton3626 It was fine until he killed him. Then the law really set their eyes on them.
@@pepethefrog6809Hosea literally waa the one who proposed the Saint Denis heist and Dutch was the one on the fence before Hosea and Arthur talked him in.
@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 That's coz he keeps saying they need money. Hosea's plan was to lay low somewhere else but Dutch brought them to where they were. He had no choice but to come up with something.
Dutch was putting on the good face with Uncle out there so as to not come across to the rest of the gang as a leader who can’t take criticism. You just know he was boiling in his tent after that though lmao
And Uncle knew that he had him. Now, Dutch is a mercurial fellow and you can't guarantee your safety if you slight him, and Uncle knows this, but Uncle is not a coward so he still speaks the truth. He was pretty safe, though, as Dutch has to play politics and laugh the whole thing off.
It would've been catastrophic for Dutch's image and the attitudes of the gang as a whole if he'd done anything to Uncle.
Uncle didnt call that bluff…. He made dutch laugh at the joke ultimately saving his life😂
Good old "Antagonize. Antagonize. Defuse." combo
He definitely called his bluff in front of everyone.
he saving Dutch's life uncle is a one shot kid yo
Uncle is an intellectual man who drowns his past in Whiskey. He pretends to be a senile old man but he is always making the conscious decision to play the fool. In some moments like this he breaks the character he’s formed and drops some real wisdom.
That look In Dutch's eyes gave me shivers😅
He knew better than to try fight Red Harlow.
He knew better than to try to fight Uncle.
Fixed it for you. Too much lumbago going to your head will do that to you, mistaking him for Red Harlow.
These where the good ‘ol days
The fact this isnt an actual cinemátic, but still looks like one, talks about how they took care of details in this game
Uncle is wiser than we give him credit for. He understands people really well. His advice to John and Arthur was also spot on.
What Uncle said was true, even in the end of RDR1. Dutch wanted to run a crusade of freedom, with his knights, the last vestige of power the modern man could muster at the time.
Uncle is one of the most intelligent characters in the gang.
Lumbago “Put me out of my majesty , your misery.”
King “away with you”😂
great edit never fails to make an amazing edit!
Uncle is basically the Sokrates of the gang. Both in character and appearance wise.
From start to finish of the game we could see Dutch slowly change as a person. He let stress get to himself and to take over his used to be charming self.
The game is really well written and acted.
Crazy how cinematic this encounter can be by only placing the camera more close to their faces. The devs really put such realistic emotion on their faces even when this wasn’t even a cutscene. Well done rockstar 👏
so anyone can do this in the game too? awesome
Uncle gives zero F's bro 💀
Uncle was right about Dutch.
"There goes the greatest man we know, and even he's lost."
He spends the entire game lost, trying to find ways to keep his gang together and therefore, his way of life alive in a world that had moved on.
Dutch would never truly admit that his time had come to an end, until his final moments with John on top of that mountain. It's sad really.
I love dutches "away with you!" Line, he's still a good guy......back then at least
Uncle is honestly a good guy
This is why I love antagonizing Dutch any time I am in camp. Not only is it funny, it's absolutely cute, in an angry and chaotic chihuahua sort of way.
You’re fucking Hysterical 🤣😮💨😂
Then he pushes you and storms off in a little hissy fit 😂 it’s fun to make happen
Big ol' Dutch Van Der Linde
Shoutout to the person that used freecam to create this masterpiece
Dutch letting his RDR1 side show for a second while in his union suit was chilling
More like: “He wants to be an American King, with his _pawns.”_
Uncle is so good at playing dumb as hell while being really smart and analytical. He sees through people really well.
“There goes the greatest man we know… and even he is lost”
Put me out of my majesty your misery💀
Never did I understand Dutch's real desires until now. Uncle puts it too well
Everyone thought that “I wanna kill you” was just Dutch acting, but it was the only time he was genuine.
That laugh is what you hear seconds from being unalived
Uncle shown a shred of his power and dutch backed off, he may have lumbago but hes a powerful being
Dutch better be careful around the red harlow 😂
Uncle breaking the 4th wall
The fact that this is not even an actual cutscene... Absolute masterpiece.
Its these little moments where you realize dutch hated being called out on his bs
Dutch's fake laugh is so unsettling.
I fuckin love when the camp conversations get edited to be almost like an in game cutscene
Dutch showed mercy because he knew, sooner than later, that lumbago would catch up to Uncle
It’s wild to me that they can have some of the deepest and most profound and revealing pieces of dialogue given by some characters as missable interactions this game is a masterpiece
The fuckin chuckle on him is pure "thats you mate, done" vibes buts exits as if he knows hes gonna be burned later. Almost at the stake. Charles is the true hero of that "uncle"
Uncle the champ of defusing situations that couldve gone really really badly
They captured that furiously crazy look in Dutch's eyes perfectly, despite it not even being a cutscene. Not even Micah pushes Dutch too far.
Bro the way dutch slowly looked at the camera
Uncle ditches the gang when things got bad enough, but notice he stands and fights for John and his family, he knew in his heart they were worth it and John was turning his life around.
"right now, i would like to kill you." The delivery of that line is chilling. It is so hard to tell when he's being serious and when he's messing with you and that is so realistic. I know people just like that irl and let me tell ya, they scare me sometimes.
Dutch gets mad because what uncle said is true dutch see himself as a king
I love how Uncle takes death threats from members of his gang with a grain of salt. 😂
He knows he's in a prequel and he's exploiting every single drop of that.
He knew that Dutch couldn't touch him and look like the righteous, savior of men he claimed to be afterwards.
The fact that Uncle lived longer than Dutch is funny😂
Also Uncle went down like a man.
@@diegomedina9637 Fr lmao 🤣
The acting of this cast is phenomenal. This exchange felt so real. And it’s not even a moment every player sees.