I have a 2015 model and everything cycles through it just fine. I shot a lot of Armscor rounds through it with out any problems. I used CCi and Hornady too.. good results all around
Thanks for the review. I have had my eye on the PMR-30 for several months now. Seems like they have been able to ring out most of the feed issues people have been experiencing. I just placed an order for one with the guarantee it's a 2018 model. With regards to your comments about loading the magazines. People have reported that the loaded brass gets dented by the rim of of the round being inserted and pressed down in to the magazine. The speedloader (in theory) applies even pressure on the already loaded round when it compresses it down in to the magazine. YMMV. With that said, it can be a thumb saver if you plan on putting several hundred rounds downrange.
I just came from the range. My God, I love my gun. Not a single FTF or FTfire when the break in period was done. I kept the 4 mags I have loaded and that helped a lot. The makershot loader helps too to achieve the 30 rnd mark withouth denting the shells.
I'm hoping once the barrel and lock slide around and get smoothed out maybe it will lessen the amount of shit I get hit in the face with. Still cool but hopefully that goes away
I've watched maybe 8 videos on the PMR30 and no one else has mentioned getting "peppered in the face" by debris when firing the gun. So it's interesting to hear that this can be a thing, with any ammo you use apparently. I want one of these real bad, regardless of any issues it has, that 30 round mag just sounds too fun.
Eric Bergfield I wear eye protection but haven’t noticed anything. Some guys did mention that a long time ago. If you get one, maglula now makes a mag loader especially for this gun and it works really well. You may want to note that keltec only offers free warranty work to the original purchaser and requires proof so if you have issues with a used one, you’ll have to pay.
@@johnnybeanz1296 Good call on getting warranty work only if I'm the original/first owner; that's something I will absolutely keep on my mind moving forward.
Please do some follow ups, i really want to see this pistol get squared away, it's such a great round and concept . I think Kel Tech should go all in and make this a priority
We actually took it out today with some co-workers. We only put 3 boxes through it (it was more of an ar-9mm dueling tree battle day) But still shoots perfect. Just gotta enforce the Everyone has eye pro rule. Still shoots some powder back at ya
Dude you could have a good channel. Get some to help with the camera. You speak clearly. And you cover the points people care about. Bump it up a notch boy. You got this
I've plugged my first 200 rounds of Hornady & CCI without malfunction. I too am getting peppered with "stuff" upon firing. Also have the gold "fairydust" inside the gun upon cleaning.
The unburnt powder in the face you shouldn't have that problem so long as you keep the pistol far enough away. I do know that all that 22 magnum powder does not burn off in the PMR barrel. There's no way it can. It seems like it's got one hell of a flash upon discharge. A friend of mine has the CMR version of this. And he loves that thing. He's steadily gets right in the area of 2,000 ft per second. I've read that you can get up to 1500 ft per second with the PMR 30. Either way I mean you get hit with a hornet's nest of 22 magnum I don't care who you are that's a bad fucking day.
I have one with the Gen 2 box. I did have a few issues, mostly mag related, but I did a few fixes and now it runs 100%. I've been wondering if they went through the fixes and did the same with the CMR 30. Mine also had no issues with armscor. I also haven't had any issues with blowback in the face. Maybe I was lucky 🤗
Out of all the videos I’ve seen, this is the first time anyone said they were peppered in the face. First video of anyone using armscore ammo. Could be the ammo.
I have NP getting 30 into my mag either,i love mine,but did have a few problems getting it to continuously fire without a jam or having to muck with it to load
@@TargetTime not sure its new & i have whats reccomended for it,i think it was due to the way i loaded the mag.Im taking it bk out after new years & gonna try it out some more,i ordered the pic rail & new springs for it from tandemkross,should have those in about a week or so,gonna put a red dot on it & handle grips,im hoping the firmer spring helps with the loading after each shot,i will know more here in a few weeks,i also bought the keltec 12 guage 24 shot,thats a badass in & of itself,imma take my 12g pmr30 & my 9mm security9 along with my 9mm rifle & my ar15 & sight them all in.I live in VA & gotta get my shit tight just in case lmao,done sitghted in both my 3030's & my .22 henry lever action & my .22 semi(all 3 of them).i have pretty decent scopes on all + lasers,what dont have a scope has a laser,i own 20 acres out in the country & gonna get em all ta where i can tap a bottlecap at 75yrds,then i should be ready for my uhm target practicing,i have as many guns as i do guitars lmao music & hunting & golf,that keeps me busy year round with my hobbies hehehe,but i do loves my keltec 12g & pmr30,aw hell i love em all,i was raised in the country (farm livin is da life fo me lmao)
@@summers9911 Just finally got back to the country 2 months ago. Actually 5 houses down from my parents where i grew up. 11.25acres. Loving it. No tweakers, thug wannabes (population 9k in southern IL LOL "gangsters"), no car break ins ... I love it. Stay safe and hopefully VA turns around.
Mine is an 18 modle and I haven't fired 300 rounds through it and broke a fireing pin already see how it functions after I get it back together.the dynapoints shot best in mine when it doesn't jam 😢called Tech support and they said they have never had any issues lol
😄 I love they say they havnt had issues with it. The gun had to be redesigned and recalled/Mail in repaired for how many thousands of units. Hopefully yours gets lined out
If I'm trying to hit somebody 300 yards away with a pistol.. I imagine I've got some serious fucking problems. That's when the AR-15 comes out. Not that it's impossible to land a 300 yard shot but I mean realistically? No. I mean people do it but they don't do it repeatedly. I watched a guy taking 150 yd shots with this exact firearm and out of that 30 in the magazine he might have landed 10 of them on the target.
@@TargetTime I'm paying $450 for mine new. That's here in New hampshire. And the gun panic definitely increases the price. We've been steadily watching the ammunition prices go through the fucking roof. That's why usually when I purchase ammo I buy it online in bulk. I'd rather spend a little more money immediately and get more rounds as opposed to going to a gun shop where there's a substantial markup.
I noticed that there weren't that many fireballs shooting out, I seem to get more when I shoot mine I don't notice that much-unburned powder when I shoot mine
I have the tp9 da. I think they make a damn fine product. A lot of people don't like Canik. And it's usually the Glock fuckboys that don't like them. I know a lot of people that have different Firearms manufactured by this company and they've never had a problem. Not once.
I just bought one. Great gun for training and personal defense. It's one of my 3 bugout guns that I would carry if i had to bugout. I also got my eye on the 33 round 22lr pistol keltec just came out with. Man I love these rimfires. They shoot inexpensive yet effective ammo for many situations.
Nothing but a light primer strike but still under 1000rds so early life. But when is the cut you mean? Could have been anything other people talking, a check what was going on with the blowback particles, fixing a target etc
Releasing or compressing a magazine spring in itself does not wear them out at all. It's the actual movement of them being compressed and released repeatedly that will make them loosen up. You might get a little bit of relief if you leave them loaded for a couple weeks and then release it and reload it again but it's not going to be much. I have had magazines for pistols that I loaded in the 90s I took them out a few months ago and I fired them. They're still just as good as the day I loaded them. So yeah just compressing or releasing and then leaving them like that will not really do anything to them. I'm watching as many of these videos as I can because I'm picking my PMR-30 up probably in another week. I bought a beautiful 300 win mag for hunting season and then the next day I go in the shop to buy ammo for it and I see a PMR 30 and I promised myself if I ever saw one in a gun shop I would buy it. But given that I'm raising four of my five daughters by myself I can't just go buy guns whenever I feel like it. I mean don't get me wrong we have a shitload of firepower here. But we don't have a PMR 30 just yet. They do make an upgrade parts kit for it that I've already ordered. It's my understanding that from the factory the PMR 30 comes with a polymer feed ramp and a couple other pieces that leave a little to be desired. So I just said fuck it I'll spend the extra money replace all the parts and hope that the total investment is worth it in the end. Oh I'm going to be pissed if it's not. That's $650 total that I'll be spending on this. Just for the gun and the parts kit. But honestly most people say that once you break them in a couple hundred rounds they're perfectly fine. A lot of people say it's about loading the magazine correctly. Well there's only one way to load a magazine correctly everything else is incorrect. Load it up tap it a few times on your hand elbow or your head whatever.. that way all the bullets get seated and you should have no feeding problems. I hope that your Kel-Tec PMR 30 brings you many years of reliable service.
Looks like a toy, for a moment i thought it is. Nice gun. Wnat about stopping power. Will the opposing guy be stopped on its track with this gun, one shot or two.
Any firearm is better than none, and anything can be trained enough with. But I would probably suggest away from this for carry. The trigger is insanely light, you touch it shoots. 95% of people who shoot this, I included, jumped the 1st shot. Even after i stressed how light the trigger is. 22mag is quite impressive on the velocity though for such a tiny package. And this holds 30 of them. House gun, camping, woods walk etc. I love it. But idk about anything more stressful than say a snake
Stopping power doesn't matter if you don't know how to aim. You could have the largest hand cannon on Earth and either miss or not put that bullet in a place where it's going to do massive damage. The 22 magnum has plenty of penetration power. You put two or three in someone's chest it should stop them. I wouldn't recommend carrying a 22 as a personal defense weapon unless your marksmanship skills are top-notch.
Local(ish) gun store. I posted on facebook local gun group if anyone spotted one before i ordered online. Found it next town over Try a local shooting group or Check gun (dot) deals web site
I just got my PMR back from the factory and two new mags and a new slide later, it works much better. I had a used model and they still did the replacements for free.
@@brianwinkler8183 keltec has great service. Even on second hand buys. They will replace barrel and key parts they changed between generations. Glad you got it running
If 10 dry fires break it it's worth doing to know it's not worth having. But I do know it's added stress and vibration and definitely leads to damage just figured it was the only way to somewhat controllably show the trigger for the video. And do appreciate you spreading knowledge. Many people do not know and will end up with a broken firearm and may not know how to repair.
You can dry fire Ruger SR22 pistols all day. I was actually told it won’t hurt these by Kel-tec. Dry fire when there’s a little bit of residue in there and see if the pin leaves a strike on the barrel at all. If it does it’s not good. If it doesn’t, you can dry fire it.
You are 100% correct. There's a right way to load magazines and everything else is the wrong way. I mean granted there are magazines once you get to that 28th or 29th round or the last two or three rounds in any brand new magazine they might be a little difficult. I've had a couple of pistols in my lifetime where.. specifically my Beretta 92fs.. getting that 16th round in was a pain in the ass.
Nope took it out Wednesday and I'm at 600 rounds now. All good with armscor. What location? Can you order online from an out od state and have them ship it to your gun store?
Assuming Kel-Tec actually fixed all the problems that the first gen had, the thing might just be worth buying ( 2nd gen). I hope whoever made the decision to let the first gens out of the factory got fired. That probably drove some customers away never to come back. Kel-Tec should be embarrassed for letting such a piece of junk out to the public.
Gen 2 fixed most problems a couple years back. 2018 are good to go. I agree though gen 1 was a FLOP. If you find one cheap though keltec sends you all the parts and barrel you need. Or you can return it for replacement. Even if not original buyer
@@TargetTime I had no idea, thanks for that information. I have a brand new, never shot gen 1 with the fluted barrel. I wonder if Kel-Tec will still make it right for me, I bought mine in 2014 and have never shot it?
Could I ask you the first three or four letters or numbers of your serial number? I am going to purchase a PMR-30 and I want to make sure it is one that is a current production. Thank you
First 5sec of talking I say the serial number wwyn with 2 numbers afterwards lol. Emailing keltec They will tell you production date Using the pointers in the beginning will show what a gen 2 differes in appearance and also the box of 2018
@@payup2023 shouldn't be too much. thektog.com is a good keltec forum. You will see recent posts on issues under the pmr sub. But the 17 should have the same barrel in it. Keltec also offers free barrel and chamber replacement for any bad ones that are still in rotation
Is a range gun. I figure if it's weak enough to break after a few Drive fires it's not worth having. Because even if it's not intended for defense weapon It's good to know if you can grab it. Or a if I'm on this side of the house near this safe do I have this loaded and ready inside of it or is this just in the back waiting for a range day and a different gun be up there ready always a plan B
Yeah dry firing with this particular setup is not a good idea. I mean if you put snap caps in there that's fine or a spent shell but firing on an empty chamber with a pistol like this.. there's a damn good chance that that firing pin is going right into the breech face. Dry firing a centerfire firearm is a whole another story altogether. When it comes to something like this yeah I definitely wouldn't recommend it. Going to be replacing firing pins real fast quick and in a hurry with too many dry fires on an empty chamber.
It's unburnt powder. It's not steel it's not the bullet it's not the casing it is quite literally unburnt powder. I mean you don't burn all the powder with a four and a quarter inch barrel. That's why they're such a big flame coming out of the end of it. Now if you put it in the CMR model that's a different story you get a higher velocity and you don't have the problem of getting the little particulates of unburnt powder in the face. But even still I don't see why you would be getting powder in your face like that. I mean coming out of the end of the barrel it should be going in One direction. Away from you.
@@NortheastSurvival911 if you say so... I've seen super fine spalding metal come back and hit shooters who dare to get that close shooting rounds that move that fast....one guy took a tiny molten spec to the shin...was painful...
Mine was jamming junk from the start, and the front site keep falling out!!! KEL TEC has had it going on 2 months and said that it is defective and they can not find a way to fix it, nor refund me my monies!!!
Every company it does not matter who they are.. they do not have 100% quality control 100% of the time. Sounds to me like you just got a straight up lemon and I'm fucking amazed that they won't honor the warranty and replace it. If it's nothing that you did to the firearm I'm pretty sure they're obligated under that warranty if in fact it was during the warranty.. to replace it or repair it. I had a problem with a Sig p360. That thing was a piece of shit right out of the box. And I love Sig I really do. I have a lot of their firearms but that one in particular was a shitshow. Failure to feed stove pipes you name it. The fucking recoil spring was incredibly weak. Thankfully I drove my ass right down to Sig with my receipt and the firearm and I had a little face-to-face conversation with them. Fortunately I live in central New Hampshire so Sig Sauer is not that far away. They definitely honored the warranty. It's a little disturbing that Caltech did that to you though. I'm picking mine up in about a week. My PMR 30. I ordered that $250 parts kit. So I'm going to have 650 dumped into this total. And I'm going to be fucking bullshit if this gun doesn't do what it's supposed to do immediately. I mean I'll give it a 200 round break in cuz it's not going to take very long to put 200 rounds through that thing. But if after that I'm having problems.. that's when the phone calls and the emails will begin
I noticed that a couple weeks ago when I reviewed the video I don't know if my first one started opposite or it was just 29 it looks like you can see the brass through the peephole for round 30 maybe it's just 29. She's fine regardless still ain't got to mess up even with partially loaded mags left side or right side I've heard many people say they don't shoot loaded from the right side first on the ktog Forum but whether it's the first round or in the middle of a shooting session that wouldn't matter
Have this PMR30 in my sights for the last 4 yrs. 30 in the mag is a lot of fire power. Always find a reason not to buy. Saw this gentleman at the range with a 4 months old one. The firing pin system broke. Guess I will buy a Heritage.
@@TargetTime That PMR30 was not at the gun shop 4 months ago. Maybe the gun shop ordered it for him. Maybe a second hand gun. How can I see it is new gen or recently manufactured gun? What is the average cost of the gun in your area. Thanks and have a nice day.
@@peterpaul6725 349-370 for a new pmr. Case . sights and chamber are all indicators of new gen. Also check serial number. 4 letters 2 numbers is new code. May was WWYN for letters. Keltec owners group (thektog) forum hasdate lists. Keltec will also tell you of you call or email them with a serial
Can't be too expensive. And if it's so weak 5 or 6 dry fires break it..better to know now to order spares and not trust it for anything more than a range
@@TargetTime Yes, that is what i am trying to say. It's not a carry gun to trust your life to it. I say it from experience, on my 3rd pin now. If under warranty just call keltec and they send a new one it's so common they already know whats up
Oh, Hoss why waste your time and ours the viewers, the gun PMR30 in which this fool me bought for 500. is pure junk, and when that happens I never buy another product for the manufacturer of it , even if they make a good one later, the risk to my hard-earned cash it to grate
Well you're the one that chose to watch the video. Pretty sure it's his channel so think he can produce whatever he wants. And if you think it's junk that's fine you're more than entitled to your opinion but there's an army of people out there that would disagree with you.
My new PMR30 exploded in my hands with less than 200 rounds fired. Kel Tec knew of this problem and failed to tell the public. They repaired it with all the "New" updates and I had two back to back failure to fires. Sent it back and they did not return all I had paid for the pistol even though it was less than 30 days old and their fault. Terrible customer service. This thing doesn't even make a good rock for self defense. Kel Tec = Junk.
If a firearm is deemed unfixable a like replacement or full refund has to be given. They can't make a cash offer they wish for a gun they can't fix if you have a receipt. But what was wrong with it that made it blow up
I have a 2015 model and everything cycles through it just fine. I shot a lot of Armscor rounds through it with out any problems. I used CCi and Hornady too.. good results all around
Great Video, like your style. Going to get one Kel-Tec myself, can't beat the weight and fire-power of that.22-mag.
Thanks. Very light and holds 30. Cant complain about that!
That brass is flying everywhere!!!
Thanks for the review. I have had my eye on the PMR-30 for several months now. Seems like they have been able to ring out most of the feed issues people have been experiencing. I just placed an order for one with the guarantee it's a 2018 model.
With regards to your comments about loading the magazines. People have reported that the loaded brass gets dented by the rim of of the round being inserted and pressed down in to the magazine. The speedloader (in theory) applies even pressure on the already loaded round when it compresses it down in to the magazine. YMMV.
With that said, it can be a thumb saver if you plan on putting several hundred rounds downrange.
I just came from the range. My God, I love my gun. Not a single FTF or FTfire when the break in period was done. I kept the 4 mags I have loaded and that helped a lot. The makershot loader helps too to achieve the 30 rnd mark withouth denting the shells.
Cool I'll have to look it up. Do you get alot of blow back to your face when shooting?
@@TargetTime sometimes I guess. It was more frequent at first, but what I can tell you is that The Toy sends the shells 8-ft away
I'm hoping once the barrel and lock slide around and get smoothed out maybe it will lessen the amount of shit I get hit in the face with. Still cool but hopefully that goes away
I've watched maybe 8 videos on the PMR30 and no one else has mentioned getting "peppered in the face" by debris when firing the gun. So it's interesting to hear that this can be a thing, with any ammo you use apparently. I want one of these real bad, regardless of any issues it has, that 30 round mag just sounds too fun.
Extremely fun. Wear eye pro. Its getting better though.
@@TargetTime Thanks for the recommendation, I have yet to research good eye protection before getting this pistol.
Eric Bergfield I wear eye protection but haven’t noticed anything. Some guys did mention that a long time ago.
If you get one, maglula now makes a mag loader especially for this gun and it works really well. You may want to note that keltec only offers free warranty work to the original purchaser and requires proof so if you have issues with a used one, you’ll have to pay.
@@johnnybeanz1296 Good call on getting warranty work only if I'm the original/first owner; that's something I will absolutely keep on my mind moving forward.
Please do some follow ups, i really want to see this pistol get squared away, it's such a great round and concept . I think Kel Tech should go all in and make this a priority
We actually took it out today with some co-workers. We only put 3 boxes through it (it was more of an ar-9mm dueling tree battle day)
But still shoots perfect. Just gotta enforce the Everyone has eye pro rule. Still shoots some powder back at ya
It was the ammo, not a light primer strike, very common issue with rimfire ammunition to have "dead spots" in the primer.
Yep. CCI probably the least amount of primer issues.
Dude you could have a good channel.
Get some to help with the camera. You speak clearly. And you cover the points people care about. Bump it up a notch boy. You got this
Thanks for the tips
I'm with you. Haven't had any issues loading the 30 round mags.
I've plugged my first 200 rounds of Hornady & CCI without malfunction. I too am getting peppered with "stuff" upon firing. Also have the gold "fairydust" inside the gun upon cleaning.
sorry it never gave me this comment. has it been getting any better for you?
Kel tec should make a 17 hmr model!
Now that would be interesting
17HMR.I'll take 4 please
I agree!!!!
Yes a pistol/carbine combo with a 50 round banana clip magazine
I have own one which I have put hundreds of rds through, no issues and very accurate. I didnt notice any particles or unburnt powder in face
The unburnt powder in the face you shouldn't have that problem so long as you keep the pistol far enough away. I do know that all that 22 magnum powder does not burn off in the PMR barrel. There's no way it can. It seems like it's got one hell of a flash upon discharge. A friend of mine has the CMR version of this. And he loves that thing. He's steadily gets right in the area of 2,000 ft per second. I've read that you can get up to 1500 ft per second with the PMR 30. Either way I mean you get hit with a hornet's nest of 22 magnum I don't care who you are that's a bad fucking day.
I have one with the Gen 2 box. I did have a few issues, mostly mag related, but I did a few fixes and now it runs 100%. I've been wondering if they went through the fixes and did the same with the CMR 30.
Mine also had no issues with armscor. I also haven't had any issues with blowback in the face. Maybe I was lucky 🤗
I bout one last yr !! Ive put everything threw it !! Never had Ive got any blow back in the face !! Good gun and Ill use it forever!!
That muzzle blast on a few of the rounds was pretty impressive
Impressive fireballs lol
Out of all the videos I’ve seen, this is the first time anyone said they were peppered in the face. First video of anyone using armscore ammo. Could be the ammo.
Very possible
With the 2015 it's important to load the mag perfectly and you won't have tge same problem
With rimmed cartridge auto-loaders, it's very important to push your rounds back flush in the magazine, when you load them. They feed so much better.
Jamie Sloan yep and it is a massive help not to fully load the magazine ( not more than 25 or 26)
Factory recommendation (manual) is to knock the magazine every 5 rounds(see video, mentioning this)
Yours loaded wayyyy easier than my new 2020 model. Like you say tho, maybe needs to sit full for 3 weeks.
I have NP getting 30 into my mag either,i love mine,but did have a few problems getting it to continuously fire without a jam or having to muck with it to load
Did the problems wear in and go away? Or have to change ammo?
@@TargetTime not sure its new & i have whats reccomended for it,i think it was due to the way i loaded the mag.Im taking it bk out after new years & gonna try it out some more,i ordered the pic rail & new springs for it from tandemkross,should have those in about a week or so,gonna put a red dot on it & handle grips,im hoping the firmer spring helps with the loading after each shot,i will know more here in a few weeks,i also bought the keltec 12 guage 24 shot,thats a badass in & of itself,imma take my 12g pmr30 & my 9mm security9 along with my 9mm rifle & my ar15 & sight them all in.I live in VA & gotta get my shit tight just in case lmao,done sitghted in both my 3030's & my .22 henry lever action & my .22 semi(all 3 of them).i have pretty decent scopes on all + lasers,what dont have a scope has a laser,i own 20 acres out in the country & gonna get em all ta where i can tap a bottlecap at 75yrds,then i should be ready for my uhm target practicing,i have as many guns as i do guitars lmao music & hunting & golf,that keeps me busy year round with my hobbies hehehe,but i do loves my keltec 12g & pmr30,aw hell i love em all,i was raised in the country (farm livin is da life fo me lmao)
@@summers9911 Just finally got back to the country 2 months ago. Actually 5 houses down from my parents where i grew up. 11.25acres. Loving it. No tweakers, thug wannabes (population 9k in southern IL LOL "gangsters"), no car break ins ... I love it.
Stay safe and hopefully VA turns around.
Mine is an 18 modle and I haven't fired 300 rounds through it and broke a fireing pin already see how it functions after I get it back together.the dynapoints shot best in mine when it doesn't jam 😢called Tech support and they said they have never had any issues lol
😄 I love they say they havnt had issues with it. The gun had to be redesigned and recalled/Mail in repaired for how many thousands of units. Hopefully yours gets lined out
So fun gun I love it. But I'm not sure if Allowed to going target and shoot
Why not?
+biggest bud ...? It says 300rounds. Never claimed to shoot a pistol 300 yards
If I'm trying to hit somebody 300 yards away with a pistol.. I imagine I've got some serious fucking problems. That's when the AR-15 comes out. Not that it's impossible to land a 300 yard shot but I mean realistically? No. I mean people do it but they don't do it repeatedly. I watched a guy taking 150 yd shots with this exact firearm and out of that 30 in the magazine he might have landed 10 of them on the target.
Great review from just a guy and a gun. Keep on it.
Thanks for watching.
I have never seen that gun for 349.00 out the door.
2 years later and a gun panic will affect the price
@@TargetTime I'm paying $450 for mine new. That's here in New hampshire. And the gun panic definitely increases the price. We've been steadily watching the ammunition prices go through the fucking roof. That's why usually when I purchase ammo I buy it online in bulk. I'd rather spend a little more money immediately and get more rounds as opposed to going to a gun shop where there's a substantial markup.
I bought mine in black and is hi held out for the tan.
Ya very lucky I had to buy a speed loader to make mine work right. You just a lucky guy even with the ammo unless you work for keltec
I wish... but doubt they pay enough lol.
I work in chemical / plastics plant
I noticed that there weren't that many fireballs shooting out, I seem to get more when I shoot mine I don't notice that much-unburned powder when I shoot mine
Maybe the Armscor I'll check the footage of the Maxi mags or maybe shoot some more and see if that cartridge has a better burn
I get a big fireball with my 2015 almost all the time...... day or night!
The pepper in your face will not go away. It's blow back. Get use to it😂
I had this fun and sold it for a Fiveseven because it would always jam! Even if I had it oiled up but mine was from 2016-2017
Many people had this same issue with the previous versions. Very picky on ammo. And then some were just crap with all. But ENJOY THAT 57! Jealous
Whent shopping for a this and the guy re directed me to the canik tp9sf.....ill be back for this though
I have the tp9 da. I think they make a damn fine product. A lot of people don't like Canik. And it's usually the Glock fuckboys that don't like them. I know a lot of people that have different Firearms manufactured by this company and they've never had a problem. Not once.
How is the gun holding up
I just bought one. Great gun for training and personal defense. It's one of my 3 bugout guns that I would carry if i had to bugout. I also got my eye on the 33 round 22lr pistol keltec just came out with. Man I love these rimfires. They shoot inexpensive yet effective ammo for many situations.
That extended mag holds over 50rds! I want one too haha.
Just waiting to see what pdw stocks come out in the after market world
Why did you cut the video during range time? Did the gun have malfunctions?
Nothing but a light primer strike but still under 1000rds so early life.
But when is the cut you mean? Could have been anything other people talking, a check what was going on with the blowback particles, fixing a target etc
Can ya dual-wield these?
Releasing or compressing a magazine spring in itself does not wear them out at all. It's the actual movement of them being compressed and released repeatedly that will make them loosen up. You might get a little bit of relief if you leave them loaded for a couple weeks and then release it and reload it again but it's not going to be much. I have had magazines for pistols that I loaded in the 90s I took them out a few months ago and I fired them. They're still just as good as the day I loaded them. So yeah just compressing or releasing and then leaving them like that will not really do anything to them. I'm watching as many of these videos as I can because I'm picking my PMR-30 up probably in another week. I bought a beautiful 300 win mag for hunting season and then the next day I go in the shop to buy ammo for it and I see a PMR 30 and I promised myself if I ever saw one in a gun shop I would buy it. But given that I'm raising four of my five daughters by myself I can't just go buy guns whenever I feel like it. I mean don't get me wrong we have a shitload of firepower here. But we don't have a PMR 30 just yet. They do make an upgrade parts kit for it that I've already ordered. It's my understanding that from the factory the PMR 30 comes with a polymer feed ramp and a couple other pieces that leave a little to be desired. So I just said fuck it I'll spend the extra money replace all the parts and hope that the total investment is worth it in the end. Oh I'm going to be pissed if it's not. That's $650 total that I'll be spending on this. Just for the gun and the parts kit.
But honestly most people say that once you break them in a couple hundred rounds they're perfectly fine. A lot of people say it's about loading the magazine correctly. Well there's only one way to load a magazine correctly everything else is incorrect. Load it up tap it a few times on your hand elbow or your head whatever.. that way all the bullets get seated and you should have no feeding problems. I hope that your Kel-Tec PMR 30 brings you many years of reliable service.
Looks like a toy, for a moment i thought it is. Nice gun. Wnat about stopping power. Will the opposing guy be stopped on its track with this gun, one shot or two.
Any firearm is better than none, and anything can be trained enough with. But I would probably suggest away from this for carry. The trigger is insanely light, you touch it shoots. 95% of people who shoot this, I included, jumped the 1st shot. Even after i stressed how light the trigger is.
22mag is quite impressive on the velocity though for such a tiny package. And this holds 30 of them.
House gun, camping, woods walk etc. I love it. But idk about anything more stressful than say a snake
No one wants to be shot 30 times. Think you'd be good.
Stopping power doesn't matter if you don't know how to aim. You could have the largest hand cannon on Earth and either miss or not put that bullet in a place where it's going to do massive damage. The 22 magnum has plenty of penetration power. You put two or three in someone's chest it should stop them. I wouldn't recommend carrying a 22 as a personal defense weapon unless your marksmanship skills are top-notch.
Love this gun
Where did you find it for $349
Local(ish) gun store. I posted on facebook local gun group if anyone spotted one before i ordered online. Found it next town over
Try a local shooting group or Check gun (dot) deals web site
They are very hard to load correct without the mag getting the follower stuck. You are very lucky your mags are working.
Maybe they changed something on the new gen? Be worth an email to keltec maybe they will swap them out for you.
I just got my PMR back from the factory and two new mags and a new slide later, it works much better. I had a used model and they still did the replacements for free.
@@brianwinkler8183 keltec has great service. Even on second hand buys. They will replace barrel and key parts they changed between generations. Glad you got it running
You shouldn't be dry firing that pistol the only rimfire that you can dry fire is a Ruger 10/22
If 10 dry fires break it it's worth doing to know it's not worth having. But I do know it's added stress and vibration and definitely leads to damage just figured it was the only way to somewhat controllably show the trigger for the video. And do appreciate you spreading knowledge. Many people do not know and will end up with a broken firearm and may not know how to repair.
You can dry fire Ruger SR22 pistols all day. I was actually told it won’t hurt these by Kel-tec. Dry fire when there’s a little bit of residue in there and see if the pin leaves a strike on the barrel at all. If it does it’s not good. If it doesn’t, you can dry fire it.
Great Vid thanks!👍
Thanks for watching
Amen
People that complain about loading the Mag have no clue how loading a Mag works, it isnt' Rocket Science.
You are 100% correct. There's a right way to load magazines and everything else is the wrong way. I mean granted there are magazines once you get to that 28th or 29th round or the last two or three rounds in any brand new magazine they might be a little difficult. I've had a couple of pistols in my lifetime where.. specifically my Beretta 92fs.. getting that 16th round in was a pain in the ass.
Have you had any ftf with armscor ammo yet. I am buying a pmr which is hard to find in my area new for 500. And was wanting to find some good ammo
Nope took it out Wednesday and I'm at 600 rounds now. All good with armscor. What location? Can you order online from an out od state and have them ship it to your gun store?
Lucky you
Assuming Kel-Tec actually fixed all the problems that the first gen had, the thing might just be worth buying ( 2nd gen). I hope whoever made the decision to let the first gens out of the factory got fired. That probably drove some customers away never to come back. Kel-Tec should be embarrassed for letting such a piece of junk out to the public.
Gen 2 fixed most problems a couple years back. 2018 are good to go. I agree though gen 1 was a FLOP. If you find one cheap though keltec sends you all the parts and barrel you need. Or you can return it for replacement. Even if not original buyer
Waiting on another round of 500rds. 750 in it already. Seems great other than needing a faceshield
@@TargetTime I had no idea, thanks for that information. I have a brand new, never shot gen 1 with the fluted barrel. I wonder if Kel-Tec will still make it right for me, I bought mine in 2014 and have never shot it?
@@robertallison9653 most likely . Especially if original owner. Worth a try for sure
Could I ask you the first three or four letters or numbers of your serial number? I am going to purchase a PMR-30 and I want to make sure it is one that is a current production. Thank you
First 5sec of talking I say the serial number wwyn with 2 numbers afterwards lol.
Emailing keltec They will tell you production date
Using the pointers in the beginning will show what a gen 2 differes in appearance and also the box of 2018
Sorry I missed that. Do you think there is much of a difference in the 2018 and 2017 models? Thank you
@@payup2023 shouldn't be too much.
thektog.com is a good keltec forum. You will see recent posts on issues under the pmr sub. But the 17 should have the same barrel in it. Keltec also offers free barrel and chamber replacement for any bad ones that are still in rotation
Trigger time with average al.
All that dry firing of your personal pistol makes me cringe.
Is a range gun. I figure if it's weak enough to break after a few Drive fires it's not worth having. Because even if it's not intended for defense weapon It's good to know if you can grab it. Or a if I'm on this side of the house near this safe do I have this loaded and ready inside of it or is this just in the back waiting for a range day and a different gun be up there ready always a plan B
Yeah dry firing with this particular setup is not a good idea. I mean if you put snap caps in there that's fine or a spent shell but firing on an empty chamber with a pistol like this.. there's a damn good chance that that firing pin is going right into the breech face. Dry firing a centerfire firearm is a whole another story altogether. When it comes to something like this yeah I definitely wouldn't recommend it. Going to be replacing firing pins real fast quick and in a hurry with too many dry fires on an empty chamber.
Probably getting peppered from shooting steel so close up
That's close? And does it without steel.
It's unburnt powder. It's not steel it's not the bullet it's not the casing it is quite literally unburnt powder. I mean you don't burn all the powder with a four and a quarter inch barrel. That's why they're such a big flame coming out of the end of it. Now if you put it in the CMR model that's a different story you get a higher velocity and you don't have the problem of getting the little particulates of unburnt powder in the face. But even still I don't see why you would be getting powder in your face like that. I mean coming out of the end of the barrel it should be going in One direction. Away from you.
@@NortheastSurvival911 if you say so...
I've seen super fine spalding metal come back and hit shooters who dare to get that close shooting rounds that move that fast....one guy took a tiny molten spec to the shin...was painful...
Been there thinking about one of these for a while now. My state sucks for us Gun owners. Illinois just sucks!
Some people just have better manual dexterity...!
Mine was jamming junk from the start, and the front site keep falling out!!! KEL TEC has had it going on 2 months and said that it is defective and they can not find a way to fix it, nor refund me my monies!!!
Every company it does not matter who they are.. they do not have 100% quality control 100% of the time. Sounds to me like you just got a straight up lemon and I'm fucking amazed that they won't honor the warranty and replace it. If it's nothing that you did to the firearm I'm pretty sure they're obligated under that warranty if in fact it was during the warranty.. to replace it or repair it. I had a problem with a Sig p360. That thing was a piece of shit right out of the box. And I love Sig I really do. I have a lot of their firearms but that one in particular was a shitshow. Failure to feed stove pipes you name it. The fucking recoil spring was incredibly weak. Thankfully I drove my ass right down to Sig with my receipt and the firearm and I had a little face-to-face conversation with them. Fortunately I live in central New Hampshire so Sig Sauer is not that far away. They definitely honored the warranty. It's a little disturbing that Caltech did that to you though. I'm picking mine up in about a week. My PMR 30. I ordered that $250 parts kit. So I'm going to have 650 dumped into this total. And I'm going to be fucking bullshit if this gun doesn't do what it's supposed to do immediately. I mean I'll give it a 200 round break in cuz it's not going to take very long to put 200 rounds through that thing. But if after that I'm having problems.. that's when the phone calls and the emails will begin
Getting peppered in the face is bad, does wearing a hat help at all? Is it ammo related?
I think its caliber related in a short Barrel. Going to try and rig up a catch system to see what it's actually putting off
@@TargetTime In the video the casing ejection didn't look very consistent. Maybe chamber tolerances are not as tight as they could be?
Round 30 should have been on the left side of the magazine.
I noticed that a couple weeks ago when I reviewed the video I don't know if my first one started opposite or it was just 29 it looks like you can see the brass through the peephole for round 30 maybe it's just 29. She's fine regardless still ain't got to mess up even with partially loaded mags left side or right side I've heard many people say they don't shoot loaded from the right side first on the ktog Forum but whether it's the first round or in the middle of a shooting session that wouldn't matter
Yep for Rounds after 25 either way the 29 and 30th isn't that much different and pressure of loading the mag
12 rounds lol
Have this PMR30 in my sights for the last 4 yrs. 30 in the mag is a lot of fire power. Always find a reason not to buy. Saw this gentleman at the range with a 4 months old one. The firing pin system broke. Guess I will buy a Heritage.
Firing pins are cheap. Was it a 2018 for sure? Or just one he bought 4 months ago.i found 3 new ones at local shops and all were older generation
Plus pmr will send you any updated part they fixed if you have an old gen
@@TargetTime That PMR30 was not at the gun shop 4 months ago. Maybe the gun shop ordered it for him. Maybe a second hand gun. How can I see it is new gen or recently manufactured gun? What is the average cost of the gun in your area. Thanks and have a nice day.
@@peterpaul6725 349-370 for a new pmr.
Case . sights and chamber are all indicators of new gen.
Also check serial number. 4 letters 2 numbers is new code. May was WWYN for letters. Keltec owners group (thektog) forum hasdate lists. Keltec will also tell you of you call or email them with a serial
@@TargetTime Appreciate you taking the time to answer. No doubt you are a gun enthusiast, like myself and my son. Have a wonderfull day and a like.
Prediction. Your pin will break soon. Lol.
Can't be too expensive. And if it's so weak 5 or 6 dry fires break it..better to know now to order spares and not trust it for anything more than a range
@@TargetTime Yes, that is what i am trying to say. It's not a carry gun to trust your life to it. I say it from experience, on my 3rd pin now. If under warranty just call keltec and they send a new one it's so common they already know whats up
Ya they have lifetime coverage
Just normal use breakage?
Target Time yep. It’s very weak
STOP DRY FIRING .....ha ha ha ha ha
Meh
Oh, Hoss why waste your time and ours the viewers, the gun PMR30 in which this fool me bought for 500. is pure junk, and when that happens I never buy another product for the manufacturer of it , even if they make a good one later, the risk to my hard-earned cash it to grate
Well you're the one that chose to watch the video. Pretty sure it's his channel so think he can produce whatever he wants. And if you think it's junk that's fine you're more than entitled to your opinion but there's an army of people out there that would disagree with you.
My new PMR30 exploded in my hands with less than 200 rounds fired. Kel Tec knew of this problem and failed to tell the public. They repaired it with all the "New" updates and I had two back to back failure to fires. Sent it back and they did not return all I had paid for the pistol even though it was less than 30 days old and their fault. Terrible customer service. This thing doesn't even make a good rock for self defense. Kel Tec = Junk.
If a firearm is deemed unfixable a like replacement or full refund has to be given. They can't make a cash offer they wish for a gun they can't fix if you have a receipt.
But what was wrong with it that made it blow up