Not watched this yet but there's no competition RS6 IS THE BOSS now M5 lost that crown with over exposure and being forced to bow to Audi 4 wheel drive ethos
@@z00h Brutal, like a 3 day diarrhoea are all the BMW new fronts can't even look too much on them no more, so freack 'n ugly.. and the new 'older style' dashes inside BMW are no good either.. by comparison Audi dashes interiors are like spaceships..
The rs6 is unforgivably hideous 🤢🤮 ..it has the presence of what the 8th guy in line would see trying to use a toilet that doesn’t flush in a Mexican restaurant 💩 M5 wins without question.
@@m.x.reffrigxolani269 i don't hate BMW in general is a very good brand in top3 best fighters, (i still love first gen shark nose era of BMW, 6 series E24, old M5, first gen 8 series so much, but lately with super ugly fronts i mean what the actual f@#ck they are doing ?! (2series Van really do you like that shit ? latest M3-M4 series, X7, 7 Series need tuning face-liftings for bugs bunny tooth or beaver nostrils grilles.. no more kidneys ! i really don't like them no more and if someone asked BMW CEO if they could redo at least the M models with different nose they say they don't care about people opinion.. ?!! that is next level disgrace and is a general talking opinion look anywhere about people perception regarding the BMW design change on latest gens.. Automotive prestigious tuners like Prior already are offering 4 version front lifts or re-styled grill-bumper for the latest M3-M4, even designers try to post face-liftings on youtube Chip Foose we all know him, Chris Bangle the man responsible for the beautiful BMW, Richard Kim responsible for i3 & i8 say BMW lost it's mojo ).. sadly BMW just got owned by Merc & Audi on latest cars..
@@HoratioHoodoo sorry to prove you wrong buddy but I have driven the E63S many fckin times and I own a GLE coupe 63s lol so you are the clueless one here mate hahahaha
@@HoratioHoodoo my boss has an E63s - I’ve been allowed to look after it when he’s been away on business.. half of me wanted to drive down to the Alps, half of me wanted to bury the keys and never set foot in it ever again! The reality is that I’d never buy any of these types of cars for the risk of ending up in prison!
I have an M5 but love the looks of the RS6 and could easily see my self in one. The touchscreen is close to a deal breaker for me though. My wife's car has touchscreen controls and I sometimes need to pull over to be able to get the radio station I want and the ventilation working as I like it. The smoother ride though is very attractive for just driving along in traffic on the UK's crap roads.
@@Anders_HeymSR30 The trunk of the Audi is bigger and the Audi drives more smoothly than the BMW. This is always better for families than a suspension that is too tight. With the Audi you have both, the BMW is not that good even with comfort settings.
I'm sure most people wouldn't understand this but, personally I'd take a used E39 M5 over either of these (and £100k in change!). I did also like the first and second gen RS6s when they came out, and still wouldn't say no. But there's something about this new one that I just find rather.... gross. The current M5 too, albeit to a lesser extent. I personally like tasteful and understated cars and that's one area where old Audis (and BMWs) got it right where the newer ones have gotten it very wrong IMO.
Joe is the most honest car reviewer out there on YT , he mentioned all important things like About Price , Fuel consumption , Comfort level over B roads , that's awesome , please tell what the Avg MPG you're getting on this RS6
@@JoeAchilles1 you know my E320 w211 V6 225 bhp avg only 23 mpg and 0-100 in 7sec , but this monster 600 bhp RS6 avg 22 MPG it's simply brilliant how technology and electronics improved over the last 15 years
I absolutely love the RS6, however as an owner of F85 X5M (and many other previous BMW's) I know that the driving experience in the RS6 won't be as good as the M5c. Gorgeous looking car though that RS6 and sounds amazing too
Shame to hear that, as the B5 Touring would be where my money would go, on a car of this sort and I'd rather any of these fast estates than a lardy SUV! If Audi ever do an RS6 All road however... 😉
Audi Fan and Owner here, 2016 RS7 Prestige and an 2016 A3 1.8T SLine... don't get me wrong, the BMW is a great machine but the RS6 Avant is beyond this time...absolutely gorgeous, practical and diverse..you can use it as your daily ride, taking kids to school (my case and that's how I use my RS7) or to go to the track and hunt supercars.
Thanks Joe for another brilliant video. As a 2020 BMW M5 Comp driver I am of course pleased you chose the BMW over the Audi. I've not driven an Audi RS6 myself, so I wouldn't be able to comment on which is better in my eyes - but thats of course why we are all watching your videos! When I was researching my next car I did approach my local Audi dealership for a test drive of an RS6, however they were far from helpful than my BMW dealership. I was told that I couldn't have a test drive unless I only drove on B roads, had a salesman in the car next to me, plus they mentioned no more than 30 minutes in the car! BWM on the other hand lent me an M5 Comp for the weekend! I do think that even the initial contact by a car dealership goes towards you making that all important decision, and I do believe that this was why I chose the M5.
Great video Joe. I have owned both brands at this level and lean toward BMW, The worry is the new M5 is too harsh and that could swing it for the Audi. Always enjoy you videos, very insightful and objective. Nice camera work as well BTW.
Great video Joe, and very well balanced. I love the spec of that particular RS6 as well. Also loved some of the B-roll, made it look like a proper professional production 👍
Hmm that’s a tricky question! Aesthetically l, they’re both stylish. I think I’d go for the M5 competition. I’ve not seen a single RS6 in the state - until 2021 out here in Utah.
RS6 for me as I'm a family man & love the idea of a fast practical estate car. Would love to see it compared with Alpina B5 Touring tho. Joe, would you review a E63 AMG estate as some point ?
Great video Joe, as an Audi fan man thank you. I think when Audi release their “Performance” range, it will be very interesting to revisit the two cars as they will be more aligned going head to head. Cheers!
Thank you! Yeah I look forward to hopefully hearing Audi will release a full fat Performance version soon... Sure that will be dynamically sharper and obviously match the M5 C straight line pace 👌
When you first pulled away the Audi sounded like a Muscle car with the bypass cutouts engaged!!! What a rumble i heard through my earphones but Joe a very honest review as we have become accustomed to. Lovely agreeive looks to it and practical as you said but you will need adequate Conkers to own one or a very sympathetic credit dealer!!!
I really love your review which is so well considered and thought out. Surprise, surprise, I am a BMW fan, but I love the Audi RS6, not just because it's a wagon, but definitely because it has a panoramic glass roof, which to my knowledge, you can't spec on a BMW M5. Besides, I would be the guy enjoying blasts down the country road rather than ever going to a track, which is perhaps where the BMW M models are damned near unbeatable. Great video, Joe!
:)) as a BMW fanboy..this RS6 looks really badass..love the "Wagon" style of Audi..but while driving, entertainment system with less touch screen features would suit me better, its more pratical for me to adjust things physically.
used to be a big Audi fan, not a BMW fan, never liked the driving position (5ft 9in), saying that I have driven a Mercedes Brabus Vito (V32) the past 4 years, been thinking about a change, perhaps its time to re-visit the Audi range, great video.
Love your work, Joe! So now that you have established M5 still being the King - something all of us BMW fan boys wanted to hear - what’s your take on M5 Comp vs. AMG E63S?
Great video bud. I would have to go for the RS6, looks so good and much practical for the kids/dog, but I would just hate all the touchscreen futuristic styling. Luckily I don’t have a spare £100k to drop on a car so won’t ever have to make the choice 😂
I am looking to purchase one of these second hand. I am unsure to go for carbon black launch or vorsprung. Only question I have is the air suspension a better proposition than the conventional dampers on the vorsprung. I’m in the UK and the road are not very good. Any thoughts guys.
I’m not biased to any manufacturer and don’t have favourites in that sense but for me the M5 is THE KING. I’m not a fan of ever BMW but the M5 is my ultimate dream family super saloon. Performance wise it kills the RS6 or 7
Now owned both (currently in RS6). Agree with everything Joe says. I find the RS6 a much better family car - mainly because of its ability to be very smooth and quiet. The cabin is also sharper looking and, with the sunroof, much airier. The M5 is a beast, and definitely quicker/sharper but you have to put up with that all the time when, in my experience, a 4/5 door 2-tonne family car needs a broader set of skills most of the time. Loved both, heart says M5, head says RS6. And yes, the RS6 is the best looking 😉
Its not even a comparison M5 comp is the fastest 4 door, the rs6 had no chance for speed. But the RS6 is a bit more comfortable and more practical. They are both really technological. For me id take a pre lci M5 comp, fastest, hard and great looking. But its all depending on what you want. Exterior id take the RS6 it looks like a beast, interior id take the m5 I think it looks more luxurious and classy and I know BMW use better materials. If you want the ultimate performence 4 door M5 comp, if you dont care about speed thar much and want comfort, rs6. Speed and less comfort, m5.
@Maverick Fastest Taycan time ive seen is 10.8 and fastest m5 comp time ive seen is 10.8. Also sure a flying spur has like a 5-10 km/h higher top speed but everybody knows nobody bases cars speed on top speed, unless your 12.
@Maverick Again top speed is least important. M5 has a 0.6 second faster quarter mile and lets not talk about a track🤣. Also if top speed is so important then the Taycan is a slow poke only 155mph and also slower on a track. Ofc those are limitations of battery power and their weight for track but still true. Edit: and thats the bentlys flying spur top speed unlimited. While the 190mph is still limited by bmw even with the M drivers package. The alphina b5 with no modifications has a top speed of 205mph, and thats heavier, less powerful, and has more drag then an M5 competition. So....
Love the M5, because it's understated, without the chavvy blacked out everything, and fakeness, of the Audi. They are both superb cars, but the BMW is just better in every way, apart from the extra room in the back / load space. BMW has better quality, better seats, better driving position, and is a much better car dynamically. Joe you say that you don't turn back and look at the M5 as much as you do the Audi, but that is just a personal thing, looks are subjective and I much prefer the styling of the BMW.
Hi Joe great video mate love your opinions on the cars your test driving I myself is an Audi lover at present I’ve got a new Audi SQ7 fully loaded and I’m looking at one of these RS6 as my next car 🚙 and after watching your video I’m definitely getting one next year
Great car, but what's wrong with old plain buttons ? I like that mechanical click feeling, and If I have a lot of options I want a illuminated button for every single one of them on the dash, center console, roof, steering wheel,door, seats...
Loved it Joe. I am and have been a fan of the RS6 avant for years, I'm obsessed with estates. But I'm not a fan of the "ultra modern" touch screen crap! It doesn't do anything for me! However this doesn't mean I hate the M5 that's just an unbelievable saloon! I just prefer estates........ M3 touring enters the room 😍😍 oooo
Honestly, people are reluctant to accept the whipping from the M cars. They rather comment about the looks, dashboard, this and that. BMW does the best M performance machines.
What is very hard here is that I really like the wheel arches flare ... which BMW used to have up to E60/E90, but now they are pretty much gone, while Audi have continued them. On the flip side those arches does impact the drag, and you see that in how thirsty these cars are (10.5L/100km for M5 vs 11.6L/100km for RS6). Now, as a owner you might not care about that 10% less consumption, and both have large tanks so range is not a problem ... but BMW/Audi/MB ALL have to keep lowering consumption, and it just seems like BMW is more serious about trying to do so (at the cost of looks). Yeah the touch screen is for standing still only ... that include a passenger. You need other way to input stuff. BMW is faster across the register (25.2s 0-280km/h vs 28.8s), so that 0.3 0-60 keep building (I also think BMW underestimate their engine a bit more than Audi does). fastestlaps.com/comparisons/8r13m4f0vkmd Yeah the M5 CP is stiff, I do like the 'feel' as to me the stiffness give more confidence ... but as a limo the RS6 is most likely a better car (constant cruising on a highway) ... but if that's what you are after ... S8 and 750 is the way to go anyhow. M5 CP - 95% E63s - 93% RS6 - 91%
I agree with everything you have said between the two cars and in a way it’s better that they aren’t as close to each other that way it gives you more reason to buy one over the other for different uses
For me it would have to be the RS6 as I need the extra practicality and it looks simply awesome. Infotainment differences are largely down to investing the time in getting to know the systems in depth but tbh I do not spend much time fiddling with them on the move in any case. Performance difference is not going to matter unless you are Matt Watson. I agree with your conclusion though, M5 comp would probably provide more pleasure in driving whereas the RS6 would provide more pleasure in ownership.
I’ve been a BMW owner/driver for over 25 years. I know how good the M5 is, but in this instance I’d choose the RS6. It looks superb and so nicely put together. If BMW made an M5 Touring?
That is the M5, and has been for a long time, though it's not say the rs6 isn't an absolute beast. Their touch screen is a nightmare, we have an a7 in the family.
@@DeeDeeDanone like what was said the Audi suffers from an easy fix it’s ECU engine tune is heavily Euro regulated but with a simple modification turns the Audi into a different car... th-cam.com/video/m8MQTE5uOoU/w-d-xo.html
Another stonking video Joe. Thanks. I've had my RS6 Vorsprung with ceramics for 3 months now and loving it. It has several squeaks and rattles from the dasboard but that might be cos' I specified the carbon trim instead of the one in your review. For me it's the RS6 but the M5 looks fantastic too. A very informative, interesting and entertaining video. Many thanks Joe, Simon
That's amazing to hear buddy! Yeah pity about the creaking cabin, seems like a common issue on Audi's built in the past 2-3 years, dashboards and roofs that have pan sunroofs fitted. Cheers for the support 👌
As an Audi fan, I fully respect your opinion and I love how honest your opinion is.
Thank you bro, I appreciate you being honest with me ♥️👊
@@JoeAchilles1 going to support you for life bro 💪
Not watched this yet but there's no competition RS6 IS THE BOSS now M5 lost that crown with over exposure and being forced to bow to Audi 4 wheel drive ethos
@@sugarsaint M5 still smokes the rs6 anyday on the 1/4 mile easily
@@alexzhou7 To be fair it should do cos it's lighter and more aerodynamic being a saloon but it loses out on looks, road comfort and practicality.
Rs6 just has the presence. When you see one on the road they look brutal.
"When you see one on the road they look brutal."
Brutal, like a 3 day diarrhoea.
@@z00h Brutal, like a 3 day diarrhoea are all the BMW new fronts can't even look too much on them no more, so freack 'n ugly.. and the new 'older style' dashes inside BMW are no good either.. by comparison Audi dashes interiors are like spaceships..
@@poplaurentiu4148 just say you hate bmw. Well, I love bmw anytime, anywhere
The rs6 is unforgivably hideous 🤢🤮 ..it has the presence of what the 8th guy in line would see trying to use a toilet that doesn’t flush in a Mexican restaurant 💩
M5 wins without question.
@@m.x.reffrigxolani269 i don't hate BMW in general is a very good brand in top3 best fighters, (i still love first gen shark nose era of BMW, 6 series E24, old M5, first gen 8 series so much, but lately with super ugly fronts i mean what the actual f@#ck they are doing ?! (2series Van really do you like that shit ? latest M3-M4 series, X7, 7 Series need tuning face-liftings for bugs bunny tooth or beaver nostrils grilles.. no more kidneys ! i really don't like them no more and if someone asked BMW CEO if they could redo at least the M models with different nose they say they don't care about people opinion.. ?!! that is next level disgrace and is a general talking opinion look anywhere about people perception regarding the BMW design change on latest gens.. Automotive prestigious tuners like Prior already are offering 4 version front lifts or re-styled grill-bumper for the latest M3-M4, even designers try to post face-liftings on youtube Chip Foose we all know him, Chris Bangle the man responsible for the beautiful BMW, Richard Kim responsible for i3 & i8 say BMW lost it's mojo ).. sadly BMW just got owned by Merc & Audi on latest cars..
Both absolute beasts. Personally I’d choose the RS6. Stunning car.
E63s smashes them all
@@HoratioHoodoo lol I hope you know that Bmw smashes them all at the moment lol 😂😂 let’s pretend you didn’t say that lmao
@@ardiniko1 you have no idea what you're talking about
@@HoratioHoodoo sorry to prove you wrong buddy but I have driven the E63S many fckin times and I own a GLE coupe 63s lol so you are the clueless one here mate hahahaha
@@HoratioHoodoo he does BMW is on top right now and I'm saying this as an Audi fan
Joe's videos convinced me into getting a M car, and I am an AMG fan. Picked up a f10 M5 Comp, loving it!!!
What car did u have b4 the f10 m5? I currently have a porsche cayenne turbo and considering going for a M5
I will also go back to BMW M, from AMG C63s currently to M5F90 Comp in 2021
Great to hear buddy 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 still a great review love your work....
@@mushy1983123 I had a 2012 CLS63 W218
Love the look of the Audi. But from what I know about the driving dynamics, I’d take the BMW..
E63s estate over both
I can almost guarantee you will run out of skill long before the RS6 ever does!
@@HoratioHoodoo my boss has an E63s - I’ve been allowed to look after it when he’s been away on business.. half of me wanted to drive down to the Alps, half of me wanted to bury the keys and never set foot in it ever again! The reality is that I’d never buy any of these types of cars for the risk of ending up in prison!
@@Michael-yz4mc you’re quite right! ..as well as points on my license!!
@@TheJmebe 👍👍👍 I think it's the perfect daily. Rs6 has the looks though 4 sure
I have an M5 but love the looks of the RS6 and could easily see my self in one. The touchscreen is close to a deal breaker for me though. My wife's car has touchscreen controls and I sometimes need to pull over to be able to get the radio station I want and the ventilation working as I like it. The smoother ride though is very attractive for just driving along in traffic on the UK's crap roads.
This is no competition for the m5 comp
I’m a BMW guy, but damn that RS6 has presence!
Would take the RS6 in a heart beat, but couldn't afford to change a single tire!
😭 wow, I felt this.
Hahahahaha, same here.
Only top 1% can actually afford £120k on a car, so thats hardly a surprise!
Good point. It’s not about the sticker price. A big part of the cost is maintenance and repair.
M5 Competition all day everyday!!!!
The RS6 is more suitable for everyday use than the M5. If you have family and want to transport something, the Audi is the first choice.
Thank you Inspector
Exactly (End)
Because the boot of the M5 is so minuscule...?
Garbage
@@Anders_HeymSR30 The trunk of the Audi is bigger and the Audi drives more smoothly than the BMW. This is always better for families than a suspension that is too tight. With the Audi you have both, the BMW is not that good even with comfort settings.
RS6. Just look at it! Dayummmm
I have always been a BMW fan but Joe has made me appreciate them even more now! Great Videos!!
RS6 for me. Better looking, more versatile, and as fast as what you need. Probably more comfortable in comfort mode and is cheaper.
That RS6 looks like no other car.very beautiful
The Audi looks incredible
RS6 is so beautiful in navarra blue. Like if you agree👍🏻
I may not like BMW’s but great 👍🏻 job Joe on quality of video and your descriptions are very knowledgable
Thank you, glad you liked it! 👌
I'm sure most people wouldn't understand this but, personally I'd take a used E39 M5 over either of these (and £100k in change!). I did also like the first and second gen RS6s when they came out, and still wouldn't say no. But there's something about this new one that I just find rather.... gross. The current M5 too, albeit to a lesser extent.
I personally like tasteful and understated cars and that's one area where old Audis (and BMWs) got it right where the newer ones have gotten it very wrong IMO.
Doesn’t matter if the bmw is faster, the rs6 is just so good looking 👀😍
Audi for sure
I'd have the rs6 thou archie Hamilton puts me off it abit
Tbh, it's this type of class. He has an RS6, LLF chavs have M5 Comps. Buy one but stay classy ✌🏻
@@Schuler789 chavs can’t afford an M5 mate lol what you’re on about. Bmw is top car man like it or not
Who's that and why did he put you off? If you were serious you'd just test drive both and make your own mind up.
The best BMW fanboy reviewer so far! I love how you’re arguing about both sides and isn’t overly biased. Keep it up!
Camshall is lovely. Reminds me of the RS6 scene in Layer Cake - the best use of an RS6 and The Cult.
Haha very good point, what a movie!
Mega video mate. So well put together and mega views already 👏
Thanks buddy really appreciate it 👊♥️
Joe is the most honest car reviewer out there on YT , he mentioned all important things like
About Price , Fuel consumption , Comfort level over B roads , that's awesome , please tell what the Avg MPG you're getting on this RS6
Thanks buddy! I averaged 23mpg in the week with this car, lots of "spirited" driving 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 thanks Joe , mat carwow introduced us to your great YT channel
@@JoeAchilles1 you know my E320 w211 V6 225 bhp avg only 23 mpg and 0-100 in 7sec , but this monster 600 bhp RS6 avg 22 MPG it's simply brilliant how technology and electronics improved over the last 15 years
I absolutely love the RS6, however as an owner of F85 X5M (and many other previous BMW's) I know that the driving experience in the RS6 won't be as good as the M5c. Gorgeous looking car though that RS6 and sounds amazing too
Also the entertainment system which less touchscreen features on M5 works more practical for drivers, as its more accurate
@@jasonly8407 the m5 has an entertainment system? LOL bmw finally caught up then, only 10 years late
RS6 everyday! Love fast 4wd estates.
What about Alpina B5 touring?
Alpina is always the answer
Loved the brand like you wouldn't believe, unfortunately feel out and ran out of patience with ALPINA UK
@@JoeAchilles1 shame - given the coverage you’ve given them.
@@JoeAchilles1 That's probably why hardly anyone in the UK reviewed it yet. It's their loss
Shame to hear that, as the B5 Touring would be where my money would go, on a car of this sort and I'd rather any of these fast estates than a lardy SUV!
If Audi ever do an RS6 All road however... 😉
RS6, yes! This is the car that made me join your channel all those years ago...
5 star channel!!! Two amazing cars and the best person to review them,thanks Joe
Rs6 so beautiful, don't care about slightly worse performance I would rather be in the better looking car.
Must confess id go for the estate all the time don’t get me wrong that bmw is stunning
Audi Fan and Owner here, 2016 RS7 Prestige and an 2016 A3 1.8T SLine... don't get me wrong, the BMW is a great machine but the RS6 Avant is beyond this time...absolutely gorgeous, practical and diverse..you can use it as your daily ride, taking kids to school (my case and that's how I use my RS7) or to go to the track and hunt supercars.
Thanks Joe for another brilliant video. As a 2020 BMW M5 Comp driver I am of course pleased you chose the BMW over the Audi. I've not driven an Audi RS6 myself, so I wouldn't be able to comment on which is better in my eyes - but thats of course why we are all watching your videos! When I was researching my next car I did approach my local Audi dealership for a test drive of an RS6, however they were far from helpful than my BMW dealership. I was told that I couldn't have a test drive unless I only drove on B roads, had a salesman in the car next to me, plus they mentioned no more than 30 minutes in the car! BWM on the other hand lent me an M5 Comp for the weekend! I do think that even the initial contact by a car dealership goes towards you making that all important decision, and I do believe that this was why I chose the M5.
This is the ultimate tool to drive down to the French Alps from England with the car full of kids......
I mean my kids on a holiday
The quality of your videos as well especially this one big thumbs up! It almost seemed like a movie just missing some good music here and there 🤩🥳
Loving the 4K Joe, great work!
Thanks James 👌
Great video Joe. I have owned both brands at this level and lean toward BMW, The worry is the new M5 is too harsh and that could swing it for the Audi.
Always enjoy you videos, very insightful and objective. Nice camera work as well BTW.
Great video Joe, and very well balanced. I love the spec of that particular RS6 as well. Also loved some of the B-roll, made it look like a proper professional production 👍
Wish you got one on your channel
@@Birmingham_racing Problem is, I just don't think it'd get the views
So a perfect wagon would be a car with AMG engine, BMW transmission and AUDI suspension?
Haha yeah that would be amazing!
and Audi design... as the other 2 are pig ugly.
+BMW seats
Audi's you smile big when you look at them, Beamers you smile big when you drive them.
I’ve seen you on car wow before never watched your videos, I like them there’s a lot of info well done joe 👍🏻😃
Absolutely brilliant review. Joe is getting better and better.
I have to say bud your video quality just keeps getting better and better, love the content, keep it up 👍🏼
Hmm that’s a tricky question! Aesthetically l, they’re both stylish. I think I’d go for the M5 competition. I’ve not seen a single RS6 in the state - until 2021 out here in Utah.
Great vid. Probably best camera action and editing yet mate. Epic.
Hope you enjoy this one folks! Which would you have, RS 6 or M5 Competition?
M5
M5 for the real drivers.
RS6 !
Both please Santa!
Definitely the M5 Competition for me.
RS6 for me as I'm a family man & love the idea of a fast practical estate car. Would love to see it compared with Alpina B5 Touring tho. Joe, would you review a E63 AMG estate as some point ?
Wow Joe, the Audi RS 6 - the only estate that can make a Ferrari owner look twice! Excellent video, great presentation and Merry Christmas Everyone! 🎁
Damn that RS6 is a sexy thing
Great video Joe, as an Audi fan man thank you. I think when Audi release their “Performance” range, it will be very interesting to revisit the two cars as they will be more aligned going head to head. Cheers!
Thank you! Yeah I look forward to hopefully hearing Audi will release a full fat Performance version soon... Sure that will be dynamically sharper and obviously match the M5 C straight line pace 👌
When you first pulled away the Audi sounded like a Muscle car with the bypass cutouts engaged!!! What a rumble i heard through my earphones but Joe a very honest review as we have become accustomed to. Lovely agreeive looks to it and practical as you said but you will need adequate Conkers to own one or a very sympathetic credit dealer!!!
My two current favorite cars going at it? Thanks Joe!
I really love your review which is so well considered and thought out. Surprise, surprise, I am a BMW fan, but I love the Audi RS6, not just because it's a wagon, but definitely because it has a panoramic glass roof, which to my knowledge, you can't spec on a BMW M5. Besides, I would be the guy enjoying blasts down the country road rather than ever going to a track, which is perhaps where the BMW M models are damned near unbeatable. Great video, Joe!
Joe, a trick to get around the soft limiter is if you set the car up to launch it then you should be able to rev it freely to do better sound checks.
This was a question I guess we've all been waiting the answer to isn't it? excellent take Joe!
:)) as a BMW fanboy..this RS6 looks really badass..love the "Wagon" style of Audi..but while driving, entertainment system with less touch screen features would suit me better, its more pratical for me to adjust things physically.
Favourite automotive channel on TH-cam currently 👍
Another superb review Joe!....Thank you for all your fantastic content....
used to be a big Audi fan, not a BMW fan, never liked the driving position (5ft 9in), saying that I have driven a Mercedes Brabus Vito (V32) the past 4 years, been thinking about a change, perhaps its time to re-visit the Audi range, great video.
M5. A sedan would always have a sportier behaviour and reactions. Nonetheless, RS6 is a sheer beast as well
Another great review. I like that you say what is good or not good about any car, even if you are a great fan of the car 😊❤
BMW is a sportcar 1st. Audi is a VW 1st
Love your work, Joe! So now that you have established M5 still being the King - something all of us BMW fan boys wanted to hear - what’s your take on M5 Comp vs. AMG E63S?
Cams is just down the road from me, but I didn’t recognise the on road driving sections. Keep up the good work !
Lovely part of the world! Well spotted though, the in car stuff was mostly shot in Oxfordshire 😉👌
M5 comp obviously
Great video bud. I would have to go for the RS6, looks so good and much practical for the kids/dog, but I would just hate all the touchscreen futuristic styling. Luckily I don’t have a spare £100k to drop on a car so won’t ever have to make the choice 😂
🤣 Very valid points buddy 👌 Glad you enjoyed it ♥️
I am looking to purchase one of these second hand. I am unsure to go for carbon black launch or vorsprung. Only question I have is the air suspension a better proposition than the conventional dampers on the vorsprung. I’m in the UK and the road are not very good. Any thoughts guys.
As a family man, I'd take the RS6, if I wasnt I'd def take the BMW. You could take either one and wont regret it me thinks
I’m not biased to any manufacturer and don’t have favourites in that sense but for me the M5 is THE KING. I’m not a fan of ever BMW but the M5 is my ultimate dream family super saloon. Performance wise it kills the RS6 or 7
Now owned both (currently in RS6). Agree with everything Joe says. I find the RS6 a much better family car - mainly because of its ability to be very smooth and quiet. The cabin is also sharper looking and, with the sunroof, much airier. The M5 is a beast, and definitely quicker/sharper but you have to put up with that all the time when, in my experience, a 4/5 door 2-tonne family car needs a broader set of skills most of the time. Loved both, heart says M5, head says RS6. And yes, the RS6 is the best looking 😉
Audi for me any day
1 of these ands a m2 competition would be a perfect garage for me. Long distance cruiser and a proper track car.
Its not even a comparison M5 comp is the fastest 4 door, the rs6 had no chance for speed. But the RS6 is a bit more comfortable and more practical. They are both really technological. For me id take a pre lci M5 comp, fastest, hard and great looking. But its all depending on what you want. Exterior id take the RS6 it looks like a beast, interior id take the m5 I think it looks more luxurious and classy and I know BMW use better materials. If you want the ultimate performence 4 door M5 comp, if you dont care about speed thar much and want comfort, rs6. Speed and less comfort, m5.
@Maverick Fastest Taycan time ive seen is 10.8 and fastest m5 comp time ive seen is 10.8. Also sure a flying spur has like a 5-10 km/h higher top speed but everybody knows nobody bases cars speed on top speed, unless your 12.
@Maverick Maybe so.... but fine petrol 4 door.
@Maverick Again top speed is least important. M5 has a 0.6 second faster quarter mile and lets not talk about a track🤣. Also if top speed is so important then the Taycan is a slow poke only 155mph and also slower on a track. Ofc those are limitations of battery power and their weight for track but still true. Edit: and thats the bentlys flying spur top speed unlimited. While the 190mph is still limited by bmw even with the M drivers package. The alphina b5 with no modifications has a top speed of 205mph, and thats heavier, less powerful, and has more drag then an M5 competition. So....
@Maverick XE project 8 is about as fast as an M5 comp gt63s is a bit slower. Also again look what I said about the alphinas top speed.
An excellent and well-balanced review of two quite outstanding vehicles. Great effort, Mr. Achilles.
Love the M5, because it's understated, without the chavvy blacked out everything, and fakeness, of the Audi.
They are both superb cars, but the BMW is just better in every way, apart from the extra room in the back / load space.
BMW has better quality, better seats, better driving position, and is a much better car dynamically.
Joe you say that you don't turn back and look at the M5 as much as you do the Audi, but that is just a personal thing, looks are subjective and I much prefer the styling of the BMW.
Excellent video! Really honest discussion around M5 vs RS6. I must admit the RS6 Avant does look awesome!
Awesome video mate. Love the RS6
Hi Joe
great video mate love your opinions on the cars your test driving I myself is an Audi lover at present I’ve got a new Audi SQ7 fully loaded and I’m looking at one of these RS6 as my next car 🚙 and after watching your video I’m definitely getting one next year
Using the same roads as Harry Metcalf? Great video. I wish I had to choose between the two.
Epic videography and review as always mate, great job.
This would be a really difficult choice :O
I know! what colour would you get the RS6 in then?
@@Professor-Scientist brown
Matte brown
Poop
@@wonkydada matte aborted fetus red
Great car, but what's wrong with old plain buttons ? I like that mechanical click feeling, and If I have a lot of options I want a illuminated button for every single one of them on the dash, center console, roof, steering wheel,door, seats...
Another great video Joe, keep them coming! 🙌🏼
Loved it Joe. I am and have been a fan of the RS6 avant for years, I'm obsessed with estates. But I'm not a fan of the "ultra modern" touch screen crap! It doesn't do anything for me! However this doesn't mean I hate the M5 that's just an unbelievable saloon! I just prefer estates........ M3 touring enters the room 😍😍 oooo
U say the RS6 is about the same as a m5 competition from a roll but on recent carwow drag race m5 competition flogged the RS6 from a roll
I wish Joe drew emphasis on the superiority of the M5’s engine. Even the lighter RS7 coupé-ish saloon won’t touch it.
Honestly, people are reluctant to accept the whipping from the M cars. They rather comment about the looks, dashboard, this and that. BMW does the best M performance machines.
@@m.x.reffrigxolani269 True but where do I put my Rottweiler etc ?
@@m.x.reffrigxolani269 bmw is more driver focused if u love driving and more into performance bmw is the better car the RS6 is abit softer
I wouldn't mind having either one but m5 comp for me ultimate drivers car the audi rs6 v10 bk in the day was an absolutel monster tho
What is very hard here is that I really like the wheel arches flare ... which BMW used to have up to E60/E90, but now they are pretty much gone, while Audi have continued them. On the flip side those arches does impact the drag, and you see that in how thirsty these cars are (10.5L/100km for M5 vs 11.6L/100km for RS6). Now, as a owner you might not care about that 10% less consumption, and both have large tanks so range is not a problem ... but BMW/Audi/MB ALL have to keep lowering consumption, and it just seems like BMW is more serious about trying to do so (at the cost of looks).
Yeah the touch screen is for standing still only ... that include a passenger. You need other way to input stuff.
BMW is faster across the register (25.2s 0-280km/h vs 28.8s), so that 0.3 0-60 keep building (I also think BMW underestimate their engine a bit more than Audi does).
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Yeah the M5 CP is stiff, I do like the 'feel' as to me the stiffness give more confidence ... but as a limo the RS6 is most likely a better car (constant cruising on a highway) ... but if that's what you are after ... S8 and 750 is the way to go anyhow.
M5 CP - 95%
E63s - 93%
RS6 - 91%
After seeing both in person I would go with the Audi it's a lot more stunning in person than it is in pictures.
I'm an Audi man as well .. but even though I disagree (I feel the BMW is more track focused) I appreciate the excellence of this review.
I've typically preferred Audi's aesthetics and BMW's performance... But Audi's new RS sedans are the total package
I agree with everything you have said between the two cars and in a way it’s better that they aren’t as close to each other that way it gives you more reason to buy one over the other for different uses
Let’s be honest. Whichever you decided to pick out the two, you are not going to regret it. Both pretty epic cars to be fair.
For me it would have to be the RS6 as I need the extra practicality and it looks simply awesome. Infotainment differences are largely down to investing the time in getting to know the systems in depth but tbh I do not spend much time fiddling with them on the move in any case. Performance difference is not going to matter unless you are Matt Watson. I agree with your conclusion though, M5 comp would probably provide more pleasure in driving whereas the RS6 would provide more pleasure in ownership.
I’ve been a BMW owner/driver for over 25 years. I know how good the M5 is, but in this instance I’d choose the RS6. It looks superb and so nicely put together. If BMW made an M5 Touring?
Why not compare m5 comp vs rs7
Think more people compare these two flagship models than the rs7 isnt seen as popular model....
The best all round car in the world the Audi RS6
E63s wagon.
That is the M5, and has been for a long time, though it's not say the rs6 isn't an absolute beast. Their touch screen is a nightmare, we have an a7 in the family.
@@DeeDeeDanone like what was said the Audi suffers from an easy fix it’s ECU engine tune is heavily Euro regulated but with a simple modification turns the Audi into a different car...
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Best reviews all the time! Great stuff Mr Joe🤝🙏🥳
Another stonking video Joe. Thanks. I've had my RS6 Vorsprung with ceramics for 3 months now and loving it. It has several squeaks and rattles from the dasboard but that might be cos' I specified the carbon trim instead of the one in your review. For me it's the RS6 but the M5 looks fantastic too. A very informative, interesting and entertaining video. Many thanks Joe, Simon
....how can you love a +100K£ car that squeaks and rattles?🤔
That's amazing to hear buddy! Yeah pity about the creaking cabin, seems like a common issue on Audi's built in the past 2-3 years, dashboards and roofs that have pan sunroofs fitted. Cheers for the support 👌
@@fragu123 ..For everything else it does and that this the 5th one I’ve owned. It’s being sorted, ok slowly, by supplying dealer Bath Audi