RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 4080 Super - Rasterization, Ray Tracing & DLSS/FSR Benchmarks
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Today, bringing benchmarks comparing the "bigger dogs" from AMD (RX 7900XTX) and NVIDIA (RTX 4080 Super), because after all, which one should you pick?
00:00 - Intro & GPU Prices (USA & Europe)
03:06 - GPU Specifications
03:39 - A Plague Tale: Requiem
04:52 - Assassin's Creed: Mirage
05:46 - Cyberpunk 2077
06:43 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
07:47 - Forza Horizon 5
08:14 - Hogwarts Legacy
08:59 - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
09:36 - Alan Wake 2
10:18 - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
11:18 - Starfield
11:56 - The Last of Us: Part 1
12:35 - God of War
13:14 - 12 Games Average
13:56 - Metro Exodus: Enhance Edition (Ray Tracing)
14:47 - Cyberpunk 2077 (Ray Tracing)
15:42 - Resident Evil 4 (Ray Tracing)
16:22 - Spider-Man Remastered (Ray Tracing)
17:02 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (Ray Tracing)
17:48 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
18:32 - Spider-Man Remastered (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
19:12 - Conclusion (GPU Prices, Value & Performance, FSR, DLSS, etc.)
23:32 - Channel Members
23:53 - More Videos
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3 - • NVIDIA APP vs Driver O...
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AMD AM4 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600MHz CL16)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 1TB
PSU: BitFenix Whisper 650W+ Gold
CASE: Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE TG
INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Artic Freezer Penta 33
MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
SSD: 240GB
SSD (Nvme): 500GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm
PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
CASE: Phanteks P400A White
AMD AM5 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Enermax Aquafusion 360
MB: Asrock B650E Taichi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 1TB
PSU: Enermax Revolution D.F.X 1050W (80+ Gold)
CASE: Enermax StarryKnight SK30
My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (5.4GHz Static Overclock)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 2TB + 2TB + 4TB
PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
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EDIT2: Ah, editing at night isn't that great it seems, the drivers used with the 4080 Super are the "551.86" not "571.86" of course.
EDIT: There's a typo on the RTX 4080 Super price on the specifications part! It's around $1130, not $799 obviously! With the RX 7900XTX being $899.
Hope you guys enjoy this video, and let me know what you think about these results and my chart :D
when you will have 7800x3d the difference is huge in fps.
Nah, it really isn't. I have it on another build, and apart from 1080P and 1440P in some scenarios, the difference is small@@MakeSh00t
@@MakeSh00t Yeah I can notice with my naked eye the difference in 300 and 400 fps too and with all this wattage that my 4090 ti SLI rig can pull I also really need the power savings from the 7800X3D as well.....No but seriously, there isn't a huge difference and if there is one at all it usually is insignificant and you wouldn't notice in gaming. (also 7700x faster for production and workload tasks)
7700x is currently 290.00 USD while 7800X3D is currently 390.00 USD.....@@MakeSh00t
@@dakbassettthere’s no 4090ti ?
In Spain the 4080 super is 200€ more expensive than the 7900xtx, so even inside Europe prices changes depending on the country.
Yeah, even stores will change (because of models too)
Here, its the same as the OG 4080 which is around $350 to $400 more.
In my country, every Nvidia model is pricier than AMD with same performance. I knew some people will bought Nvidia because those seller keep saying Nvidia is better than AMD while they got profits by doing this
Here it's around 100 to 300 more depending on the models. If i were to make a purchase right now i'd definitely go for Nvidia, the tech that you can use with those cards is clearly superior to anything AMD has on offer currently. DLSS and better ray tracing performance may not be worth the higher cost to everyone though, depending on the games they play.
Here in Italy 4080 non supers cost 50€ more (1000€) than 7900xtx (950€). I'm not talking about Amazon ofc. The prices on Amazon are completely broken.
I went with a 7900xtx after rocking a 1080ti for years. It's a solid card.
That was my upgrade last too.
I went from a 1070 so a massive leap for us all. Not disappointed with my purchase at all.
@@docwizi went from a 5700xt so 2070 performance to 7900xt not the xtx and not dissapointed at all its a beast for 1440p gaming. the 20gb vram and 10% faster raster on average compared to 4070ti super it was a no brainer at 699 vs 820 dollars being the cheaper 4070ti super near me.
Same, love my XTX.
I also upgraded to a 7900xtx from 2070super surely enjoy my new card
My man rocking some free GPUs , happy for you. Your tutorial on anermines drivers helps my Rx live some more months 🎉
Thank you! Helps a lot not having to spend all that money!
There is more cause it change overtime u can also put profile which help with FPS in game u have many advanced options now.
US consumer here. I bought the 7900 XT for 1440p (paired with 7800X3D). I like RT, sure, but the only tier I like it at *is* the 4080, since most cards under it seemed kinda disappointing to me for the money, and the 4080 variants were all $500 USD more than my 7900 XT, and I didn't feel the 7900 XTX would really serve my interests/needs at ~$200 more (and the power consumption was a concern at that level).
My 7900 XT (Sapphire Pulse) was $700, and the cheapest 4080s (any variant/tier) available were over $1200 at the time of purchase. I know the XTX is supposed to be its competition, but that was around $910, too, since I checked. Still a big price jump in the US to get what I'd want out of Nvidia's features.
If you're in a place where Nvidia is actually cheaper, go for it. You really can't go wrong with either company, and I'm not a loyalist. I've owned 3dfx, ATI, AMD, and Nvidia. One odd thing to me is the overwhelming criticism of AMD drivers. Besides a rare issue on the cutting edge, I've never had issues. Though, tuning through Nvidia Profile Inspector at a technical level always seemed easier to me for those that like to tailor-make their settings profiles for various games. I had a lot of success with that in Vindictus (custom Source engine variant) back in the day.
AMD drivers issues are so true as NVIDIA hw or sw problems before expected end of life... it all depends if you get the correct jumps when changing from one make to other, when we could... I've lost real money because AMD's non-sensical issues in a show demo in front of potential clients... total nightmare... the same as having to upgrade a PC because Nvidia drivers started to crash a fully working system after an update... mix and match parts and solve the "issue" for years... RX 6000 was a little too epxensive but much better deal than any RTX 30, 20 or GTX 10... now is just RTX 40 is so much better than RX 7000 only problem being as you say prices and availability... but also driver and source code optimization, to the point NVIDIA has stopped to update some games to free man power to work at most profitable AI tasks and some months after go back to let's fix some new games bugs and optimization and launch some features... is the achiles point of AMD, the sw side, not that it is "bad" or "bad" always, but a lot of times you realize (or can show it yourself with your own code) that AMD products had so much more potential of runing faster and better than they do at day 0 of launch or even some years after... good thing they keep support for years going on and you'll be able to retire the hw when it is truly obsolete or superseeded... but time to time it happens... they manage to survive but they can be deceiving like all the others intel, nvidia, apple,...
4070 Super customer here. RT performance is tremendous with DLSS. I thought I wouldn’t want to use DLSS but that’s because FSR on my previous card sucked. DLSS is not only usable, it’s stupid not to use it. You get a performance uplift of 30-50% without sacrificing visual quality. Not to mention that in Battlefield V and a couple of other games I don’t need DLSS and still get 150 FPS at RT High. My performance with RT in some games is so high that instead of DLSS I use DLAA. DLAA is the new TXAA and some games don’t offer DXAA as DLAA is better at increasing sharpness. And guess what…. AMD cards can’t use DLAA.
I've had driver issues with most cards I've had, Nvidia and AMD. I've had more ony older Nvidia ones though.
Another superb video. I upgraded from 3080 Ti to 7900XTX and I am very pleased with it so far.
Great to hear!
What was the perf difference for you?
@@joniqst It's a pretty solid performance difference. Going from a 6950xt which sat between a 3090 and 3090ti is around a 50% increase going to a 7900xtx. I've got both a 6950xt and a 7900xtx, both sapphire nitro, and it's fair to say that the 7900 gets about the same fps or a bit higher native than the 6950xt gets at the same resolution using FSR, this is the most noticeable change between them, the 7900xtx uses about the same or slightly less power than the 6950xt while having a much beefier cooler so it's dead silent too, which is also nice.
Edit, the 24gb of vram is also nice, if I leave blender open in the background, some games would run my 16gb of vram out and cause issues, with 24gb I can run blender and any game, even at 4k without issues.
@@PineyJustice I also went from a 6950xt to a 7900xtx, both Powercolor Red devil's. And my experience is just the same as yours. 30-50% performance uplift, less noise, lower temps, and i suppose about the same powerdraw when you calculate in that the 6000 series under reported the powerdraw.
@@joniqst 30-35% uplift. I had the 3080ti and went to the 7900xtx at a time to.
I purchased the Sapphire Nitro + 7900 XTX almost a year ago and it is a juggernaut of a card.
are you having any driver time out issues ?
@@chaosconspectus Nope that was a last year thing. Doesn't happen anymore.
@@SemperValor It still happens often in some games. In fact it's got worse not better the last 3 driver updates. It has always had driver issues.
@@De4dSp0t Maybe check your system i've had a 6950xt for about a year now and had zero driver issues.
@@De4dSp0tare you undervolting or Overclocking?
I'm rocking 7900xtx, would not go back to nvidia so far tbh
I did! Went sapphire nitro + xtx > 4090, no regrets, lower latency, higher frame rates, better stability, less heat, less power used, better ai capabilities, better overclocking, better under volting, better software. Worse Linux support, AMD’s one crown
@@Giljrg The cheapest new 4090 is €150 more expensive than my 5800X3D + RX 7900 XTX build. Everything from Case to Card inluded. I'd hope it was that much better.
@@Giljrg AMD = no melting power connectors,🤣 better keep a fire extinguisher close by.
@@Giljrg i grabbed a nitro+ and have had constant driver crashes, i have fresh installed and troubleshooted to no end, but every 7000 card i have had crashes.
@@chaosconspectus feel your pain bro, i'm worried to sell it cos whoever i sell my 7900 xtx to will complain of the crashes!
I will just wait for the 4090Ti Super Duper version. Still waiting on the Nuclear Power Plant contracted power and Million Dollar Insurance so when it catches the house on fire with the 12VHP connector failing.
Thank you for including MSFS 2020 in your review. Many don't.
Amazing work! thk for the benchmarks
Thank you as well!
Just to let you know, your OC/undervolt setting for AMD GPU card is become standard/benchmark for most of my country AMD community,,
Keep up the amazing work👍
Glad to hear! Cheers
Indonesia?
AMD cards are very sensitive to driver version and game engine. Personally, I recommend a few OC/UV profiles if you play a lot.
where I live the cheapest RTX 4080 super is around 8% more expensive than the cheapest RX 7900XTX (I could find).
not insignificant but the RT, DLSS and lower power consumption might be worth it IMO.
And whats the electricity price in where do u live? 😂
@@d4nith3 it is not just about electricity, extra heat meaning your cooling solution will have to work hard to dissipate the extra heat, fans spin faster or the cooler needs to be bigger, also it heats your room - OK in the winter but not so much in the summer.
@@eliadbu The one thing you're missing is the AMD software, you can set per game profiles, undervolt and downclock where it's not needed and keep the 7900xtx well under 200w. From my testing, even at 250w the 7900xtx still performs pretty well, I was able to get it to 250w or less by downclocking from stock 2.5ghz to 2.3ghz. On the upper end, a partner 7900xtx will run around 2.8-2.9ghz with 400w and with tuning will pass 3ghz at 400w. Remember, you can very easily build these profiles on a per game basis in adrenalin.
@@PineyJustice all of that I can do on msi afterburner, which I find myself using more - even when I had AMD card. You can also power limit the RTX 4080 for even lower power consumption. That's the whole point of performance per watt.
@@PineyJustice 🤣
I'm rocking a Merc 310 7900XTX with a 7800X3D with SAM enabled. Just running the AMD "Rage" setting I'm getting 3100+mhz boost clocks and this thing is killing it with games running at 4K Ultra settings. Very happy with the rig.
Thank you so much for your videos bro, I finally put together my PC with my 7900 XT and I couldn't be happier, all thanks to your huge benchmark videos showing all the results I needed to know :3, you were also the main channel I'd check for news whilst my PC parts were in international shipping limbo
Really happy to see that you're now getting handed GPUs now as well. Keep it up🤍
Thank you for your kind words!
Just got a 7900 xtx for 589 on Amazon. No joke. It turns out it was a bogus listing but I notified Amazon that I had already sold my previous card on the premise of the deal. Which I had. They honored the price. What a steal! THANK YOU AMAZON. Love a company that actually has integrity
I went from a 3080ti to a 7900xtx a year ago. It's been good for the most part. I didn't think I'd miss cuda, but surprisingly, I use it for work. I think if all you do is game, the AMD card is great, but it's a bit unstable when trying to multitask productivity for work. I think next generation I'll be going back to nvidia, but that will depend on how ridiculous their pricing will become. They're greedier than Apple and nastier than EA.
Yeah, rocm is only starting, but if you use it, the performance improvements with rdna3 are BIG
It’s the power consumption for me. AMD really needs to focus on that for the next gen of cards.
AMD was better in that department than NVIDIA on the previous gen while also being cheaper and offering more VRAM on the high end, and still people didn't buy as much...
@@AncientGameplaysit comes down to their MCM(ish) design. Those extra chiplets need more power.
@Mopantsu The high-bandwidth interlink takes 70W all on its own from what I've heard, crazy enough.
Looks like SAM does most of the heavy lifting for the XTX. With only SAM enabled and a healthy undervolt that efficiency gap likely narrows quite a bit.
Finally, The comparison I've been waiting for
Similar rasterization means the 7900 XTX wins out for me. Yes, the 4080 Super is more power efficient, better upscaling and has better RT, but while the efficiency would be nice, I still haven't seen a game to make me care about RT outside of CP2077 and Path Tracing, and with cards this powerful I don't need upscaling at 3440x1440. Where the 7900 XTX wins out is a better software experience, lower price for the same performance, and much more RAM in case I need it at some point. (lots of texture mods running in CP2077 for instance). I also would hate to have to go back to using 3rd party software to undervolt and tune my GPU, as well as losing my beloved Radeon Chill, which helps a great deal in mitigating the lesser power efficiency.
while I also have a 7900xtx, I finally fell in love with this Body Cam game and so far Raytracing is a bare minimum requirement for it :o
Here in the UK the price difference is more like £100-130, so the 4080S is more viable here. I recently sold my 1.5y-old XTX and got a new 4080S for an extra £260, which I reckon was worth it for the features, reliability and much better efficiency, plus of course switching from a 1.5y old card to a brand new one. Since I play at 4K, DLSS is extra useful vs. FSR for me.
So you have payed the price of almost middle budget card and think that was worth it? 😂
@@TheMrSatyricon Well having used both for a while now, I think it's worth it, it's not a hypothetical matter as I've tried both now and know for a fact that it was worth it in my case. Even swapping a 1.5y used XTX to a new XTX for £260 would be reasonable, let alone swapping it to a GPU that I'm already feeling a lot of tangible improvements from.
Every case and taste is individual. For me personally, with my gaming preference, the 7900xtx (nitro+) was an absolute no brainer. Happy gaming brother.
In most games I slow down my XTX a bit, thus making it use less power. As far as ray tracing is concerned, my guess would be that in a couple years time all present day cards will not be enough and both Nvidia and AMD will get much better ray tracing performance. So buying a 4080 for ray tracing now, may not be a good investment. And FSR vs DLSS, well, for me personally it does not matter because the XTX runs everything I want it to just fine without an upscaler, which is a reason to buy a card like that. So when FSR gets better maybe in the future it will be useful for the XTX, but for now it is kind of irrelevant. Congratulation on the growth of your channel btw. :-)
Sounds like a bunch of cope to me
No idea what that means.@@tomgreene5388
@@tomgreene5388sounds like he has a gpu that does what he wants so he doesn't need gimmicks that are overpriced. Sour much?
@@tomgreene5388 Hard to cope is Nvidia's pricing since the pandemic.
@@setadoon sounds like you just took a big hit of cope before you came in here
Glad I got my 7900 xtx when it was on a sale.
I got 4080super 14days ago. I undervolted it to 0.910v/2550mhz+1550memory oc. Power draw is around 200w in 4K(280-320w stock) and performance is same as stock. Crazy good card. Not to mention DLSS/DLAA/DL DSR/Frame gen/RTX HDR/Reflex/RTX super resolution(its pretty good actually for 1080P youtube videos upscale to 4k) features.
Performance can't be the same as stock as rhe gpu usually boost to 2700MHz or more, but surely is a great power saving profile
@@AncientGameplays if you oc memory to +1550mhz you will get few % more performance and it will offset slower core boost(2700vs2550mhz is 5% slower) so yeah performance will be pretty much same as stock. I tested it in few gmes.
@@HEAD123456Depends on resolution, memory OC only matters in 4K since in 1440p and lower there's no bottleneck on a 256bit bus.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah i play in 4K(48" LG c1 oled)
@@HEAD123456OLED master race.
I prefer power limiting my 7900 xtx by 10%, especially since swapping the stock paste for a kyrosheet. Now there's some older games that I can play without the fans ever spinning up because it doesn't go over the 60C threshold.
I undervolted my 4080 super and limited fans on 1325rpm, my PC is out of the room in hallway. And I don't here fans when when I'm playing even with open door to hallway
I OC-ed + UV-ed mine, power limit up to max. Never crosses 50°C, 65 hotspot, no performance loss.
Limiting the fps in some titles where high fps doesnt make a difference like BG3 lowers the wattage to insane lvls. Not even sure if the fans spin in that case even..
Hey Fabio. First off, thank you. You always respond and show love to your community. Just a quick question. What overlay do you use to record you GPU stats?
Thanks, its MSI afterburner
Thanks for the extensive comparison Fabio.
Thank you as well Leon
If I had to buy one of these, I would get the sapphire 7900 xtx. The design is perfection.
Got one and its still eye candy since day 1. Its the reason I bought a case with a glass panel too for the first time (Fractal torrent grey, fits sooo well)
Can't wait for that 7900Gre video. I have the hellhound version!
Very great video thank you! Going to change my undervolt overclock settings is it still 2714 on the vram ?
Yeap, same settings I did on that video
Waited for years for a worthwhile improvement from Nvidia(gtx 1080) lo and behold found it in Team Reds XTX 7900. Works amazing on my 4k TV + 240hz monitor! From what I have read over the years AMD polishes their cards through driver updates so looking forward to see that monster hardware optimized even further!
If you are patient you can find the RX 7900xtx on sale fairly often. Found one on New Egg last week for around $799.
That's crazy
You WHAT?
only in america, the rest of the world dont have frequent discount like that
I just got one for 589 on Amazon. No joke. It turns out it was a bogus listing but I notified Amazon that I had already sold my previous card on the premise of the deal. Which I had. They honored the price. What a steal! THANK YOU AMAZON. Love a company that actually has integrity
what a steal indeed!!
@@kjgratys
Well i got 7900xtx to play native 4k on max setting, not to use upscale or ray tracing and is doing very good so far.
For real bro. Nvidia leaning on dlss and rt to justify their gouging is crazy
@gamer8622 ray tracing is not good in some games that I played like plague tale or even hellblade etc. I tryed to play rt in my 4070 in with my 2k g7 monitor and that's not for me but is good to have as an option as Fabio told for some games that you just can't turn it off and by the way in that games ray tracing is gorgeous like in AFOP . Short terms 4k max textures is better than ray tracing and for that you need vram which 24 gb is very good
@@gamer8622 true, but at the same time it looks like RT and upscaling are becoming the "meta" as we keep going
They keep churning out games that hit certain performance (khm khm the 60 fps reference) ...but with upscaling.
For pure gaming right now you should get the 7900 XTX depending on your country's prices.
If prices are similar I'd go 4080 super any day because of how close it is in raster while being significantly better in everything else + you won't change it for at least next 2 generations (shouldn't) so the upcoming games which, again, are becoming RT and upscaling heavy, will let you ride it out longer and smoother until you finally get the new one years down the road
I hope that before the 7900 xtx will be too weak for 4k, AMD will improve FSR enough that I won't have to change the GPU for a long time ;)
@rENEGADE666JEDI the 7900xtx won't be weak in 4k for years to come..its a 4k card...it'll run 4k forever lmao
Super Video :) thanx
The OC and SAM gains on the XTX are in some situations game changing lol didnt expect that, Im not the kind of guy to OC my gpu but I might have to take this into consideration for my future purchase thanks for the review
I love how you give positives and negatives to both of them, and being reasonable about it all.
Yeah, that's me
This right here, makes me feel like I made one of the most intelligent decisions in my life to buy the 7900xtx last year. The sapphire nitro+ card is one beefy boy but no regrets!!
nitro+ is awesome
@@AncientGameplays I’m so grateful to have been able to pick it up! It’s truly been a blast so far with all the games I’ve been playing.
I’m rocking the 7900xtx and don’t even wanna look back at Nvidia anymore. For the time being as someone who isn’t a big ray tracing fan the xtx is delivering amazing results in both triple a single player games and competitive online games. I play Halo, Valorant, MK1 and League of legends as my main competitive titles and some of my favorite single player games are the souls, Rdr2, Doom eternal, Forbidden West etc… I couldn’t be happier with the performance of this card highly recommend in Europe the xtx the price gap is huge! The 4080super comes about 240€ more expensive than the xtx which is a whole motherboard or an ssd lol😅
Nice Work
After experiencing RT in Metro Exodus, I can never go back. Hopefully AMD catches on to nvidia regarding raytracing/ai cores because it is really something else when developers implement raytracing as a core visual element.
In the video the XTX provides a smoother experience (much better 1% lows) than the 4080 in metro Exodus enhanced edition and you're still over 100 fps avg on the XTX
@@AMD718 the point is as a general metric, not just metro exodus
Here in Mexico the 7900xtx is insanely cheaper compared to Nvidia chips like the 4070 ti super its the same price for the best amd card, idc about ray tracing tbh and using upscaler methods for comparing a gpu is kinda dumb for me since Native res is king at higher resolutions either upscaler just blurs my games xD thanks for this comparison
Nah, upscaling is far from blurring games and it is actually getting VERY good, but for much cheaper? The XTX is a no brainer
@@AncientGameplays yea I understand at 1440p I rather play normal native taa or no antialiasing but it’s true that upscaling doesn’t look as bad as it used to be
bro, show me those websites, because cyberpuerta, ddtech, and pcel, both are nearly within margin of error, while the 4070ti super is usually 3000-5000 pesos less than both
@@ishiddddd4783 depends also the availability ive seen the price difference of them cards being almost 2k pesos which is insane and the 4080 reaching crazy numbers at high prices like 22 or 24k pesos
In the US, I bought both the XTX and the 4080s...the difference was $70. Kept the 4080s and send the XTX back.
Is the overclock settings you used the same as the video you did a year ago for the 7900xtx?
If ur concerned about stabilty, they are rocksolid, I use them since das 1 with my 7900xtx
Hey, did you have to buy those gpus, or you got them for free by the companies? If I recall correctly, a while ago you had the issue with companies not sending any sample gpus to you, it's nice if it has changed
I bought the 7900XTX when it came out, with the 4080 Super being sent by NVIDIA as said in the video's intro :D
After that post it seems things are running better gladly!
Team Red baby! Let’s go 7900XTX.
Hey Fabio, Great vidoe! very extensive and detailed as expected from a man of your caliber :)
If i may ask you a question regarding Ram - i have 2x8 CL16 3200mhz ram sticks with timings 16-18-18-38 and looking to add another pair of sticks.
Would they work with another pair that is 16-18-18-40? how would it work?
Would relly appreciate the feeback 🐱
Finally, Fabio
Yeahhhhhhhh hehe
Best comparison ever!
Thanks!
Nice video Fabio! Are you maybe also interested into making a NVIDIA overclocking/UV guide? I liked your AMD guide(s)
I already did some of those, like to for the RTX 3060/3070/4070/4070Ti, so I will do for these as well :D
@@AncientGameplays thanks!
Thank you for the video. Am very, very happy with my 7900XTX
One question though, would you mind sharing how you setup your MSI Afterburner like that where you can clearly see the GPU situation?
este candal es el mejor
😅😅 I've upgraded from 3070 to 6800xt, from 6800xt to 7900xtx and I am so happy that I went for the 7900xtx, I've never been so happy and comfortable ever since last gtx 1060, best card from Nvidia like 1080ti, only cards that worth Nvidia's Money before.... Now they are only a brand company expensive AF😅😅
Its nice to see more nvidia videos from you hopefully at some point intel also become normal benchmarking and comperison cards for you
If I were not to OC and stick to stock with rebar/SAM. Is the raster perf similar between rtx 4080super and rx7900xtx. Looking to upgrade to one of these cards from the Rx 6800. Also what perf difference should I expect in MW3 or MW2 or Warzone jumping from 6800 to one of these. Thanks
i got 7900xtx and 👍,thanks for video info,
EU be like. "Why choose ??"
Hey Ancient thank you for the video! Quick question, when running the 7900xtxhellhound @ 3000core and 2700ram what is your undervolt? Compared to many of the other manufacturers it only has two powercables and this seems to limit its undervolting range.
Thanks again!
Hey, the power cables have nothing to do with undervolting or overclocking. It has to do though with power limits, which is how these cards overclock the core mostly
@@AncientGameplays Good to know! I thought since the hellhhound maxes out at 415watts that would effect the undervolt values as well other variables.
If you're saying that's not the case, I'll make sure to implement the parameters as you laid them out in your other video.
Thank you so much for your content and all you do for the community. We are lucky to have you!
Excellent work as always. However I am confused by the labelling. What does "stock" mean exactly? Does STOCK not also include SAM/ReBar? SAM should be turned on for stock settings but I'm seeing some huge jumps between stock and OC+SAM (ACM, MW2, FH5, etc), jumps which don't exist going between the @3000mhz to the "OC" category. So either the "OC" category has wildly different clocks or SAM was not enabled in stock settings.
I would prefer not to have confusing OC tests at all. Since no two GPUs will be stable at the exact same clocks, memory speeds, and voltages these results lack meaning.
Stock is full stock, no sam
Hi @@AncientGameplays , thanks for clarifification.
I see a problem with that approach though.
Resizable Bar (ReBar, AKA SAM) is enabled by default on most modern motherboards and is utilized by default in AMD drivers.
So it seems that is 'stock' for most newer systems.
Then we have two categories which are overlocked, and that's not stock.
So we don't really have a fully stock configuration here. Which would be stock clocks and SAM enabled.
I think it would be best to have stock (with SAM) either added or replacing one of the OC tests.
I’m in a unique situation where I need 2x HDMI 2.1 and AMD (Sapphire) offers that at a much lower price. On the NVIDIA side only ASUS have 2x HDMI 2.1 and not on every model. DP to HDMI converters have some limitations and don’t work that well.
Why you need 2 hdmi?
Dp much better
@@GodyArtDesign double 4K120 gaming TV setup. No DP port.
$800 GPU smacks $1000 GPU
Must be lucky if you're getting it for 800$. Where I live, 7900XTX is only 5% cheaper than 4080Super that with little to no stock. I'd happily choose 4080Super for the superior feature set and additional benefits.
Until ray tracing has such an impact on performance that it will be necessary to use crutches in the form of DLSS and FSR, I don’t need it. I'd rather choose similar raw performance with more video memory (I had a RXT 3070 and I know what I'm talking about) and better components at a lower cost than RTX On. But thanks for the video :)
Thoughts and prayers to all poorly scammed 3070 owners..This GPU is a hit below the belt.
SAM always on?
Or it do latency?
Are there games wich perform worst with SAM?
I choosed Nvidia for DLSS 3.6 Path-tracing and all bells and wistles, but mostly for power efficiency. Thank's a lot.
Thank you as well
Meanwhile i bought RX6600 because it only use 100 watt and faster than 3050
@@arx117hes not talking about low budget segment obviously lol so why are you even saying about your rx 6600
@@arx117 rx6600 or its variants ..is the only low mid tier card that anyone sane would purchase...it handles the job
@@PopePlatinumBeatsthe entire 6000 series from the 6600 up were and still are great cards
Rx 7900 xtx for more vram
4080 super for better ray tracing
I live in an apartment complex that has smart meters for electricity usage. The power collective adds a surcharge if your Kw/hrs. exceed a certain amount. The readings are monitored in real time, so I have to game between the hours of 0230 and 0246. I utilize a Nvidia GPU that draws 18.6 Gigawatts so Marty and Doc can cross the time/space continuum safely.
I picked my XFX 7900 XTX last March and have been enjoying true native 4k@60-120fps maxed out gaming on my OLED. It's delicious 😋 Can't recommend this GPU enough.. yes even "for Ray Tracing" lol
My man, i like the way you bench! 💪
Thanks!
I liked my 7900xtx raw power, but I found myself wanting more than just raw power as I toggled on RT in more and more games that made a huge difference in visuals which is why I decided to sidestep hope to the 4080 Super. Thankfully I got it for the MSRP $1000 1-day launch. Also, I didn't quite like the high-power draw of the XTX. and with me losing the silicon lottery that didn't help as I then couldn't tame that power draw much in the ways on undervolting without limiting the power limit and losing to much in terms of performance lol. At lease now with the 4080 super my room is a lot more comfortable to game in for a few hours longer temp wise. 😋
What I did with my 4080S is look at the clock speeds it boosts to in Afterburner then try to use the power curve to bring it down as much as possible while staying at the same boost clocks and stability. Then I tweaked up the memory bandwidth to where it was also stable. It keeps a power limit on boost clocks but increases performance.
I'd love an XTX myself but I just can't warrant spending $600+ on a new GPU that doesn't do competent raytracing. It's not 2018 anymore. RT actually matters now. It's not important enough to me that I'd replace a decent GPU for _just_ RT, but when I replace my 3080ti if AMD doesn't step up on it's RT performance I'll be going Nvidia again.
I just wish AMD would take it's GPU division as seriously as it does CPUs.
A solution to this if you're an over the top enthusiast is to custom loop the entire system!
So glad you covered “call of duty warzone “ 🔥🔥🔥great work as usual 👍
It depends where someone lives I guess, here in CA they are the same price so it becomes a clear choice to choose the 4080 S, I don't think anyone can argue that NVIDIA is better overall.
I spent the extra on the 4080 Super because I wanted better looking DLSS and raytracing as well as lower power consumption overall. I was not looking for 'value' so much in this regard. I also understand that FSR will be getting visual improvements in 3.1 and as it is open to anyone to use it means I can still use it on my 4080 Super in certain scenarios. It's a win win all round even if AMD wins in some games that favour their hardware.
FSR improving helps _everyone_ since Nvidia can use it too. Great for gamers, but terrible as a selling point. 😆
If 4080 super had 20 GB of VRAM then it wouldn't have any competition, but taking things as they are right now, 7900 xtx it's the better option for non-RT games, while the 4080 super it's where it shines best.
Anything more than 16gb is overkill for gaming. 16gb will still be enough for the next 3/4 years.
if it had that it would need to have 320 bit bus, which was not happening
I'm playing SW Jedi Survivor right now @ 4K with my 7900 xtx and it eats like 17-18 GBs of VRAM so 16 GBs it's not enough for 4K gaming.
@@bog2501 You are seeing allocation; not usage (some overlays need to label things better). This has caused a lot of people to have a false belief that they need this much VRAM for gaming.
Fabio is correct, it's very likely by the time you need more than 16GB of vram we will all be using different GPU's
@@bog2501 Like the guy above said, that's VRAM allocation you're looking at which isn't how much VRAM is actually being used.
I bet you Jensen will slip In a 4080ti super before the new launch comes out.
Its an amazing card as long as the games arent unsupported by the drivers such as Apex Legends (DX12) or any of the kingdom hearts games.
is a 4080 super the better deal if there the same price?
same price? Yes, as seen overall on the video
Mr 7900XTX where do you see yourself in 5 years? "well I see myself still going strong thanks to my 24gb's of Vram and the next feature 2 feature sets supporting me with FSR and Frame Gen" Mr 4080S where do you see yourself in 5 years? "well in a gaylord being destroyed because no matter how good DLSS 3.0 and frame gen gets it's not gonna be enough to help with my 16gb's of vram and DLSS 4+ isn't a feature I'm allowed to use it's locked to the 50 series and w/e the next DLSS feature etc locked to the next gen the list goes on"
remember kids being better at ray tracing, having a better feature seat doesn't account for jack sh*t when every generation the next feature and performance is locked behind a new paywall while the other companies keep doing great things with all their products and not locking down many things because they know people are smarter while NVidia knows idiots will pay for high maintenance garbage that's replaced every 2 years. well the smart ones will actually hold on to their 4090's the dumb ones gotta have the latest and greatest because they have poor money management skills.
Great video, summarized what tens of other benchmarks couldn't. Now I'm going for the 4080 Super. Wish me Luck! Also what is Rasterization?
Raster = not RT
For the OC on the 7900 XTX what is your usual Voltage (MV) setting? Sorry if I've missed it, checked a few times!
@AncientGameplays
Use my 7900XTX OC video
You need to get away from Newegg pricing. It's a $100 price difference, not $250. The 4080 Super is $999 at several outlets, just not scammy Newegg.
Newegg are kings of scalping GPUs as long as they can. It's pretty sad when even Best Buy has Asus cards in stock for $999 and Newegg is still scalping. This is _exactly_ why I stopped using Newegg for anything years ago.
Is it worth it at a $100 difference? I guess that depends on if you care about RT, power consumption, and Nvidia's superior upscaling. Either way both are great cards but still overpriced IMHO.
Where should I look at then?
Also, in europe the difference isn't that small as well
@@AncientGameplays PCPartpicker. TH-cam keeps removing links for some reason. Just be glad you aren't in Australia or NZ. Their prices are always all over the place and MSRPs are meaningless. 🤨
the lack of DLSS makes any RX card DOA. Sorry not sorry that FSR is junk
people saying FSR is junk is people that never used FSR apart from 3 titles and at low res. FSR is inferior, but far from junk (taking off very poor implementations of course). Also, we'll have very soon the first game with FSR 3.1
AMD needs to dial down some watts, I mean when it comes to the RX6000 Series vs RTX3000 series, the 6000 series were sucking less watts and performing the same performance as their counter part, but in this case Nvidia use Uno reverse card here and AMD draws more power on Rx 7000 series against RTX4000 Series 😅
6000 vs 3000 series were using same watts for the same performance ... they were both on the same node
7000 vs 4000 series is a small difference in watts, because AMD is on a 6nm for the packaging and 5nm for the core, so it does an extra 50W (in lower categories) to 100W in higher categories. It's still not double the wattage ... doesn't really matter.
You wanna see real power consumption? Look at Arc A770 vs RTX4060. Same performance ~ but 2x Wattage
Great comparison as always Fabio, hopfully AMD are now helping you out regarding reviewer cards now!
Just wondering what OC are you running on the 7900xtx?
I am running the same OC i showed in my OC video over an year ago
@@AncientGameplaysMany thanks
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Listen, I only play 2k native with no gimmicks, and for me 7900XTX is the choice to go with. I love my 7900xtx xfx, even though it goes all the way up to 463w. And this is from someone has been with Nvidia since the GTX 8800. This video was fucking great, informative and interesting.
And what do you kiddo think 2K is?
Just undervolt+OC it bro. 280W draw on full load while outperforming the 4080 in gaming+ temps. Takes 5 mins
Here in Brazil, the 7900XTX is getting quite a bit cheaper than the 4080 super, but it's still too expensive in my opinion.
I'm one of those people who has incredibly unpopular opinions when it comes to graphics cards, and my list of priorites in a GPU are basically reversed from most people here, so when I'm purcashing a GPU, my needs are like this (Upscaling > Ray Tracing > Frame Generation > Rasterization performance).
In that scenario, I'm kinda stuck with a 7900XTX that won't really do what I want at all, and will be a waste of money, or an underperforming 4070ti Super vs a 4080 super. It's a lose-lose situation, I guess.
sai de uma rtx 3070 para XFX Merc 310 7900xtx, 0 arrependimentos (comprei nos EUA por 5.2k com impostos) A bixa não passa de 60°c e 70°c no hotspot. Nunca usei ray tracing, mas não acho que compensa a perca de perfomance, mesmo nas 4000...
That's a really odd scenario considering your budget isn't that high (or so you say), but hey, you do you haha
i bought a 4080 last year for the sole reason i wanted to use it for AI, which i use a lot, and AMD was terrible at it at the time.
quite honestly, i don't think raytracing is worth it. only game i played with it all the way up was alan wake 2, and i found that game so boring and disappointing that i dropped it 5 hours in and went to play its much superior prequel once again instead. plus the game still looks just as good without it. yeah side by side you'll notice a big difference, but when playing you even forget if you have it on or off
@@AncientGameplays It really is, but it's what I want. I can save a little and get a better GPU, but the 7900XTX just won't cut it for Path Traced Cyberpunk and Path Traced Alan Wake 2. So I'm either saving for a 4070Ti Super or a 4080 Super. Those are my only options.
I'm playing at 3440x1440
@@Eduard0Nordestino É que eu curto e entendo muito da tecnologia, e como eu gosto disso, eu acabo priorizando isso acima de gráficos com rasterização.
Eu consigo perceber as diferenças de um jogo com e sem RT, até mesmo em implementações simples, como sombras. Quando entra em iluminação global (RTGI), Oclusão de Ambiente (RTAO), tudo isso contribui para uma imagem muito melhor. Eu gosto muito da tecnologia, então é minha prioridade no momento.
I was between a 4070 Super and 7900 XTX as it’s only $100 more than the 4070 Super for me… I got the 4070 Super first as I wanted to give it a shot for RT performance. I am honestly very surprised. I am running Battlefield V with RT at 150 FPS and high 1% lows at High settings. If I add DLSS I am over 200 so I run DLAA to sharpen instead at a cost of 30 FPS. It looks lovely. In campaigns I run Frame Gen to get back to 200 FPS with 15ms latency but I get 6ms latency without it in multiplayer… WITH RAY TRACING! And then the big surprise was Cyberpunk 2022. I thought maybe I could run medium with RT on high but definitely not path tracing… I was wrong. I can run path traced RT at high with DLSS and Frame Gen at 90 FPS with 99% lows above 60. It’s actually ridiculously playable. I know so,e people don’t care about RT, I just don’t know why. I think people who feel that way haven’t had enough seat time with an RT experience. Path tracing particularly makes a game like 2077 make sense. It’s so busy graphically that having good lighting and reflections helps the realism immensely.
Yes, the 4070 Super is decent in RT as it is close to the 4070Ti as you can run PT IF you run frame gen. As for BF V, ray tracing is super light there
Went with the Rtx 4080 super the rx 7900xtx was the exact same price for me. After being on a rog g15 advantage edition laptop 5900x and rx6800m love the new card and even better performance for me since I actually use raytracing in some games😅 and works great with my ultrawide as well. Both of these cards are great but the added data like overclocking is very informative as someone who plans on overclocking it’s shows how much performance is left on the table for either cards great video.
7900xtx because 24gb :)
7900XTX is still king lmfaooooooo 🤣 AIB AMD OC/UV is always going to shit on Nvidia.
You are the best lab test!
haha, lab rat as well xD
I picked up a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900xtx on Amazon for $730 a week or two ago. It's hard to argue for the 4080 super at $1000
Was it used?
I run 2 gaming computers... one in my gaming room and one in my office down stairs... I run both NVIDIA and AMD..once in each...and to be honest... i dont see any difference in game play or graphics..... if u need to RUN BENCHMARKS to see small percentage differences... stop being a fan boi and save the extra money with the Radeon.
Thank You! ❤
thank you!
Hey man, love your benchmarks and I finally built my new pc with 7800x3d and 7900xtx but your results are always a bit higher in fh5. I have the xfx black edition and in terms of min fps in FH5 1440p extreme preset I cant get above 160fps in 1% lows. My lows are ~156. Running the card with SAM on, 400W powerlimit and 3130/2700mhz@1090mV
Boosts between 2900-3050 in the benchmark. Any idea where I can get that extra performance 😂 fresh w10 install and expo is on too 6000mhz cl30
Remember I am using the Ultra preset haha
OH. I was pretty sure you were running the extreme preset. Lots of settings are still set to ultra or high on that preset. A good friend of mine also has the hellhound xtx. He paired it with the 5800x3d and he gets +160 on the extreme preset 1440p native.
Thanks for the quick answer
You’re the best in the game bro. I hope your opportunities continue to increase
There's a 4080 Super in stock sold by Newegg for $999.99
That price difference in the vid is way overblown
It was there before, I cannot bend time. As explained in the video, at the same price or close, the 4080 super is the way to go
It's awesome to see you gettiing some apprieciation from AMD and Nvidia. I hope Intel follows suit when they release their upcoming cards.
Thank you as well!
Do you have a settings video for 7900xtx or will leaving it at standard settings for gaming be fine
I do have 💪
in your previous videos, you actually helped me to go for the 4080 super which i finally got yesterday. i think its just the more modern card compared to the 7900 xtx.
All influencers don't stress that ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ACTUALLY PLAY.
Most common games, competitive shooters and e-sports, don't give a crap about RT, SS/SR and frame generation/fake frames.
Thus, if you want FpS to frag opponents, you go AMD.
On top of that, games in which you can add all the above mentioned features are usually SLOW PACED adventures and/or RPGs, thus you can comfortably enable them on an AMD card and enjoy those games. Additionally, a normal person doesn't magnify 100x and slow down 500x to spot marginal differences in image quality.
Go AMD, save money, and invest them to buy some other better components.
Finally, I still haven't seen Nvidia MCM cards. And don't forget Nvidia secured a better production node at TSMC (that YOU pay).