To be fair, a RTX 2050 is like if you took a 3050 and kneecapped it before breaking its back. A 85W RTX 3050 performs significantly better (though still not great).
can you explain? dont know much about all this ict/hardware stuff. I guess the RX6600 can perfectly handle ray tracing but nvidia somehow got the illusion to the large crowds that their rtx cards where much better and optimized for that task?
@@jhwhthemercifulThey can both do ray tracing, though the RX 6600 performs way better on anything other than ray tracing for about the same price while the 3050 is very overpriced for what it is. The 3050 will be faster at pure ray tracing workloads like running cyberpunk with ray tracing on and other things at low settings or maybe or running quake RTX since nvidia cards have decidated ray tracing hardware but it's kinda pointless at this tier of graphics card since they're not nearly powerful enough to make use of it properly.
@@HunterTracks It is not a gaming laptop for them, or at least not primarily gaming laptop. Also, people were doing professional work on far weaker machines in the past, everyone is not rich (for example students of graphical design) and finally why spend more money if you could do your job on something like this.
Although RTX performance has gotten better over the past couple years, even my desktop 3060 struggles on low ray-tracing. It's like saying you can be an Olympic track runner because you have legs.
@@drebodollaz3504no...you can't. (Unless you are talking about The highest oligarch tier). Got my hand on 4070, without dlss you can forget about ray tracing because often you won't even get that 60 fps
An RTX 3080 laptop basically has the same chip as a desktop 3070Ti (6144 core GA104), and when that is limited to 40W while on battery (I think, I don't remember exactly) the performance is pretty dismal... somebody should do a video on it.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 some people need portability and power and its impressive that you can get something that stacks up to a desktop 4080 when plugged in is not only impressive but useful to certain people.
@@Bolt451agreed, if I really needed top teir performance, I would’ve just built a desktop, but after gaming on only desktops for years, I wanted something really fast that I can take with me, so i recently-ish bought a Thinkpad P1 Gen 6 with a (unfortunately 80w+20w) RTX 4090 for a decent deal. (Won a US eBay auction, US machine shipped to AU, even after the crazy shipping costs it was still a lot less than if I bought it from AU Lenovo directly. (Plus Lenovo voiding the machines standard 1 year warranty once i registered it in Australia, so I’m pretty much screwed if something happens to it) After owning it for a few months though, wasn’t really the best choice for me. The power limited RTX 4090 means performance is somewhat underwhelming compared to my much older desktops. (ie, FC5 from 2018 struggles to hit 60fps at 4K maxed out details due to the GPU’s power limit, I’d think it should easily hit 100+ in 4K but again that power limit) Might sell it and save up for a Legion 7 w/ a 175w RTX 4090, though the RTX 5000 series will be out by then so probably best I stick with it for now)
DLSS 3 doesn't mean frame generation, if that is what you were wondering on portal. DLSS 3 does include frame generation too on the newer cards, but it's the newest upscaling stuff over the board.
also he was looking at the wrong graphical settings and the visual glitches were most likely caused by modifying them that would explain everything going back to normal after restarting the game and using the right settings
The main problem with RTX on laptops is manufacturers are obsessed with making laptops thin if laptops were thick and bulky again we’d have more performance by now
We still do have current gen thick and bulky gaming laptops that offer some of the best performance on the market, issue is that A: they are for most people often prohibitly expensive and B: not everyone wants a thick brick scolding jet engine on their lap or even on thier desk, but they still want to play games! hense why thin and slick gaming laptops are offered, picked up a Zephyrus G14 recently and its pretty powerful for how thin and small it is and absolutely love it
@@pelehosmusic contrary to popular belief, you're probably not doing any sort of gaming on your laptop with it on your lap, even with a controller. Trust me, I've already tried
When I was in the hospital I took my not-so-gamer Thinkpad with me to play Fallout 4 or New Vegas, one night I set up on an old wall-mount A/C unit and blasted 55F cold air on the bottom and got about 20C lower temps. I was worried that the temp difference could condensate inside so I didn't do it for very long, but surprised it worked for a laptop without a lot of ventilation.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Oh yeah, I believe it. The section I was in at the time was delivery ward as a supervisor to the package courier in the room and temps were probably kept about 70-72F, that's why I kind of worried about it. Then again there was more important things to worry over.
What Thinkpad is it? I got a RTX 4090 equipped US P1 Gen 6 brand new for a bit more than half price (off of an eBay* auction that I “accidentally” won) than if I had bought direct from Lenovo AU. *Don’t recommend, since I bought it off of eBay and shipped it to Australia, the machines 1 year standard warranty was immediately void and Lenovo have been dicking me around saying the machine never came with a warranty, and that eBay isn’t a “sanctioned” place to buy their laptops from
@@thegeforce6625 It's an old Thinpad E560, has an i5-6200U, Intel HD 520 graphics, 16GB of DDR3 and a 2.5" Crucial MX500 1TB. I've upgraded it since I was in the hospital to what it is now, isn't bad for free corporate garbage. I just wish I had a more powerful Brickpad to build into a gaming laptop but haven't found such a thing, it's either too old or too expensive for old equipment.
@@aku2dimensional nice nice, not a bad machine even today. And yeah I agree, I got a high end (but essentially perfect condition) W530 in late 2022 and that cost me about $500aud, and spend probably a extra $150-200 in upgrades such as the i7 3940XM (fastest 3rd gen core mobile CPU) and a 2TB hard drive (I picked a specific model because the manufacturer somehow crammed 3 platters into a standard 9.5mm tall enclosure)
I have a 4090, and I don't even bother with the psycho setting. Personally I can barely tell the difference between ultra and psycho, but psycho makes the GPU work significantly harder, but for minimal benefit.
@@NamTran-xc2ipYeah I played through CP2077 on my 4070 Ti with path tracing because it looked so much better. Theres definitely a big difference between path tracing and the normal ray tracing modes, especially in GI.
@@weewa.1how? Without rt reflections there's so many things with such inaccurate reflections or they don't even have any at all, and without rt lighting a lot of the scene just ends up looking rather flat
I picked up this Victus from Best Buy two months ago, it was a return and I got it for $600. I love it, it's all I need to enjoy the games I want to play.
Glad you put 32gb in, as someone who just did a review on a laptop with limited vram, I noticed going from 16gb to 32gb made a difference because once the card runs out of vram it starts pulling from the system ram which may be all used up then starts page filing off your ssd. You also need to check your GPUs wattage since there are probably 8 different variants of that card.
@@bititboi yes i agree pc can give way better performance than a laptop at this price but i am a student so i have portablity issues so laptop is good for me ☺☺
@@zsideswapper6718 What's kinda funny is that the 3050 6GB on laptops can end up being slightly faster due to having a handful more cuda cores. The 3050 lineup itself is a truly strange existence if you include the 2050 with it as a weird cousin.
some laptops use the keyboard for airflow or to just help radiate heat. I wouldn't necessarily say that having it upside down and closed is best for thermals. probably more like sitting on the lid with the body raised in the air
Not related to this video but I wanted to say a BIG BIG THANK YOU Dawid! I didn't know about enabling XMP in the bios, I bought a used system which came with 3200MHz RAM but was running at 2333MHz thanks to your videos this is now fixed :)
@@mehdibendada53041060 mobile is exact same specs as the desktop version, just about 100mhz slower in clock. So yes, rtx 2050 is slower than 1060 mobile in rasterization.
That GPU isn't terrible. I dislike how people bash perfectly fine GPU's. I've ran into comment sections that have put down a literal 4060 Ti, to put that into perspective a 3060 Ti is a 2080 Super performance-wise, so imagine how much faster a 4060 Ti really is. Why can't PC gamers ever be satisfied with a phenomenally fast non-flagship GPU?
Dawid just wanna say that your videos inspired me to make my first PC build in over 10 years. I have been using a laptop and console since 2011 and not had a desktop in that time, I just finished my build...Gone from a 3050 Ti 'gaming laptop' to a PC with an RX 6750 XT! Keep up the good work man.
"It was performing at 1080p on low, which is wasn't doing on high. Anyway, let's make it unplayable". Dawid is the Let's Game It Out of the pc/tech space.
Just got a laptop with the 2050. I love it since it's my first ever laptop/pc and I no longer need to go to internet cafes to play games and do school stuff. The 4050 laptop would have been a better option but budget stuff got in the way. :)
something interesting - I have a version of the Victus with a 3050. But not the 4 GB 3050. NVIDIA actually released a refresh of the mobile 3050 but with 6 gbs of VRAM and an extra 500 CUDA cores. Might be an uncommon GPU you could take a look at.
It did perform decently for being such a cut-down low-power mobile GPU. A comparison to the Rx 6600/7600 at the same settings would be nice. Portal, Minecraft and Quake are the best for testing as they do a fully raytraced rendering, where as most AAA titles only do the simplest of raytracing like simple global-illumination and flat reflections... cause RDNA can't do texture-lookups during raytracing.
Ah but you forgot that some 2050s have lower wattage than others! Technicaly the slowest RTX GPU is specifically the 25W RTX 2050 in the Acer Aspire 14" running alongside the i5-1335U and 8GB of DDR4. Yeah, you can expect how well that'll go.
i noticed in most of your tests the vram was maxed out and a lot of system ram was used. I'd love to see how these laptops fare with productivity software like adobe or blender using CUDA acceleration, or even blackmagic for video editing.
Definitely demanding. Gigabyte 4070 Ti Super Windforce OC. No user overclock. In chamber 1 I got 30 FPS AVG. Max 40 FPS, Min 22 FPS. 23 FPS 1% Low, 22 FPS 0.1% Low. 2560x1440, Max settings in the normal video settings, Ultra settings in RTX menu, no DLSS, no motionblur. DLSS makes it very playable though, and looks great still.
This year I bought Victus 15 with RTX 3050 on it cuz I'm tight on budget, gotta say though this thing handle pretty decent I only play Genshin on it, but the game itself also has global illumination update recently. Unfortunately no DLSS but FSR 2, but that update make Genshin quite heavy on PC My Victus 15 can handle the Ultra settings but has fps drop around 45fps, I crank it down to High-Medium custom setting FSR2 still on and I've got stable lock 60fps and the game still beautiful AF with ray tracing still on 👍
Well Dawid, that is not the slowest RTX GPU (for ray tracing)! I have a 2020 Zephyrus g14 Laptop with an RTX 2060 max-q (65w) gpu, and even tho it perform way better than the rtx 2050 and somewhat better than the 3050 in Rasterization, its worse than both in Ray Tracing (1st gen RT cores and less of them!|). In Portal RTX with equivalent settings to yours i got 4 fps with no uspscaling (in the same shot at 4:22 in the video), and 27-33 fps with Ultra Performance DLSS in the red button shot at 4:16 in the video. So tecnically i have the slowest RTX gpu out there for raytracing :P
basically all rtx things can run dlss of any version, newer ones will look better, and you dlss frame gen doesn't work because nvidia says something is in 40 series cards that makes it possible, which we know is bs since you can just swap out dlss frame gen with FSR frame gen and make it work.
I bought the HP Victus 15 with intel 13th i5-13420H and RTX 3050, 32 gb of ram(upgraded), and 1tb ssd all included didn't really need to upgrade the ram and the internal memory, and it costed about roughly 816 - 817 usd converted last winter (September - October 2023), I dont really game on it heavily with triple A games mostly RTS games such as C&C series and COH series, so far been loving it as I had a really old MacBook from 2015 and before that was a Lenovo laptop which I dont remember what model it was.
watching this in rtx 2050 laptop, I bought to play mostly ps4 era games and work stuff, I am kinda suprised seeing its power, but I felt like people talk less about rtx 2050 in internet
Technically the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 support raytracing.... in software, but most titles just crash if you try to enable raytracing and those that dont... well its pretty but a powerpoint presentation would have better frames.
Yup. I've tried it on the Titan Xp (1090) and Titan V. The V can actually sometimes make it happen at 1080p, but the Xp is a total powerpoint machine. The Xp is still in my player 2 rig. Sadly I sold the V during the cryto craze for more than I bought it. I kinda with I'd done the reverse with those 2.
I just wanted to say that my i5 13th gen rtx 3050 HP Victus is so much better than the 3050 in the video, but to be fair it is 6 gbvram and I think way more speced out.
Dawid FYI - there is DLSS 3 upscaling and DLSS 3 Frame Generation. Those are not the same things. Frame Generation is either on or off. DLSS 3 upscaling is what you used here in Portal. DLSS 3 Frame Gen is available on 40 series only. BUT the DLSS 3 upscaling (which is a lot better than DLSS 1, DLSS 2 upscaling) is available on ALL Nvidia RTX Gpus, so 20/30/40 series. many ppl confuse the upscaler with frame gen. Nvidia calling both things DLSS 3 is incredibly stupid. turning DLSS on in-game is the upscaler. Afaik the DLSS 3 Frame Generation setting is called "Frame Generation", so usually you turn on DLSS upscaling on quality mode or higher and then activate the frame gen on top. They arent just one single combined setting tho.
Hello Dawid long time subscriber here. Here's a video suggestion Try FSR 3.0 with older RDNA 1 and 2 Cards and compare the differences to Rdna 3 cards results. Would be a great video if you are trying to save a buck on your gpu. For example you could buy a 5700xt used for 100$ instead of 6750xt for 450$. Love the videos and the intro always makes me have a good mood!
There isn't much difference aside from the newer cards seeing a bigger uplift in some titles. I've run my own benchmarks with a 5700XT, 6700 10GB, and 7900XTX. RDNA2/3 APUs see about the same uplift as RDNA2 GPUs. I think a more interesting comparison might be XeSS on ARC vs non-arc cards, as there is a difference in the system used internally with ARC cards having special accelerators for it that are in a way "emulated" on other GPUs in DP4a mode.
20 fps is what i played half life 1 at on a pentium 166 thinkpad, it was rough and pixelated. You could play a game like that, helps to look at the floor as much as possible but with enough determination its doable. Quake 2 also! It worked pretty well on the software renderer, not dissimilar from what we see here save graphical fidelity.
thats how i played quake1 on a 486 dx4 100mhz with reduced window size. by the time hl rolled out i was lucky enough to be sporting a pentium mmx 233mhz with a voodoo2. nice and playable good frames rates @ full screen 640x480
The psycho button does literally nothing if path tracing is enabled. Just FYI. Path tracing is the most intensive and its holistically ray tracing, you can't modify thr path tracing settings from the menu, its either on or off.
I bought that 2050 victus with ryzen 5 7535hs and 8 gigs ram, since it was the only laptop i found for my budget and they were the only one to cut the payment to 6 without any interest, have i made a mistake? I mean im not looking for 144 fps full graphics in every single game.
@@Latency_ I mean for price performance its good, im playing days gone and horizın forbidden west rn, downlanded dlss 3.7mod for horizon so m playng with 45 fps stable on it and days gone around 144fps
@@seha4943 sickk. I'm planning on getting the same laptop but with 16 gb ddr5 memory. Hope it turns out well, since I've seen a lot of comments flaming the rtx 2050
If you're finding that turning your laptop upside-down gives you a pretty good temperature drop... I'd suggest at least taking a look at the best laptop cooling stand ever built. It's called the IETS GT600 and it's about $100 but it will drop that 80c temp down to 65-75 (as long as laptop has bottom vents) and it's absolutely guaranteed to improve performance. This device can completely eliminate temperature throttling as a performance problem on a laptop that you are testing... or if it cannot, then it means that laptop needs a repaste.
Can you expand on this video and potentially try Lossless scaling with this GPU and the same games? x2/x3/x4 mode? I don't have the GPU or anything just thought that would be a fun experiment.
Laptops are really tricky when it comes to designing them specifically for gaming. Normally all of the parts are super closed together and require considerations made in order to manage temperatures. Also, there is battery that is hugely affected by running a GPU (any mobile GPU designed for laptops) and as a result often see very short battery life on a single charge. I think if someone is considering getting a gaming laptop they should be wary of these known complications and be okay with the performance a 2050/3050 offers mostly because it will be much slower to cool down after long gaming sessions
DLSS3 works on all RTX cards lmao, it's the frame generation feature that is disabled on non-40 series cards. (They are NOT the same thing). I thought this was well established in the tech world already lmao
I run fortnite on my laptop that has a 4050, at low settings(And DirectX 12) and epic distance, and I get odd frame stutters constantly I feel it's not so much the hardware but the game itself, it is prone to lagspiking even when nothing intense is happening
Man, that's an interesting video, but for a tech blogger you should probably know, that... First, sure thing it runs DLSS 3. DLSS 3 contains two modules: one for frame generation and one for frame upscaling. Frame generation requires RTX 40+, frame upscaling requires RTX20+. Second, where did you get that laptop position from? Did you know that at least some laptops input cold air through the keyboard? Yeah, talk about the "airflow" with a closed lid! Not to mention that keeping such a hot thing close to the screen might damage the screen itself.
I'm not sure what kind of demon infested 3050 is in the other laptop you're using, but it performs surprisingly poorly, I think I get much better results from my laptop.
I upgraded from a 3060ti to a 4070ti and I really have to say that I did not feel like DLSS 2.0 did much and had too many negatives in how it looked. But I was very pleasantly surprised with the 3.0 on the 40 series card. I couldn't even tell it was enabled. But I can't imagine how it would look on a 1.0 20 series card lol. Unless their driver updates have really just brought it that far since I used the 3060ti?
Probably someone mentioned it already, but the 2050 is not a bad choice if you take the card max power draw into consideration. A lot of entry laptops sport a 3050 that can only draw 35/40W max, those don't do better than a 70W 2050 at least in regular gaming.
It does ray trace, just one ray. One ray is traced
Lol
If 1 ray was traced then the GPU would only have to compute 1 trigonometric function for the dot product. Which wouldn’t have decreased the fps.
1 FPS is insane 💀💀
@@thespecialkid1384its a joke
@@Viky2594his user is the special kid for a reason
"Why not get the RX 6600 instead of the RTX 3050?"
"I want ray tracing"
^ Actual forum discussion I saw.
Lol all that Nvidia rtx marketing is working then.
To be fair, a RTX 2050 is like if you took a 3050 and kneecapped it before breaking its back. A 85W RTX 3050 performs significantly better (though still not great).
can you explain? dont know much about all this ict/hardware stuff. I guess the RX6600 can perfectly handle ray tracing but nvidia somehow got the illusion to the large crowds that their rtx cards where much better and optimized for that task?
get a used rtx 3060ti for $250. It is tons faster than both at raytracing
@@jhwhthemercifulThey can both do ray tracing, though the RX 6600 performs way better on anything other than ray tracing for about the same price while the 3050 is very overpriced for what it is. The 3050 will be faster at pure ray tracing workloads like running cyberpunk with ray tracing on and other things at low settings or maybe or running quake RTX since nvidia cards have decidated ray tracing hardware but it's kinda pointless at this tier of graphics card since they're not nearly powerful enough to make use of it properly.
RTX slide shows are fun. Instead of a game, its like you're watching someone's vacation pictures in Powerpoint. "Do you see?" "Do you see?"
Lolz
thats so true, i loved watching powerpoints on my old gpu
Minecraft RTX be like on non-Nvidia GPUs:
Also can add slowmotion feature
Good to know that my ideapad laptop with a 2050 can do raytracing as long as I'm fine with it becoming a potential fire hazard lol
Yes, but the ray tracing will make the fire have great looking real time shadows and light sourcing.
It can do RT the same way it can be used as a club -- it'll probably somewhat work a few times, but I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it.
Ray tracing in such machines is not for games. It was designed for professional software and rendering of images with lots of reflective surfaces.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I don't think there's a lot of people that are gonna do professional 3D rendering on a $500 gaming laptop.
@@HunterTracks It is not a gaming laptop for them, or at least not primarily gaming laptop. Also, people were doing professional work on far weaker machines in the past, everyone is not rich (for example students of graphical design) and finally why spend more money if you could do your job on something like this.
A Dawid video a day keeps the depression away
Really? I been watching like 45 a day. It's not working, am I overdosing on dawid?
i am still depressed but happy at hte same time
I wish it did
Unless you have Linode tattooed on your forehead, he won't date you.
fr bro
Although RTX performance has gotten better over the past couple years, even my desktop 3060 struggles on low ray-tracing. It's like saying you can be an Olympic track runner because you have legs.
I mean yeah we all could be one but should we.
@@ProjectFraz exactly
You can get Ray tracing over 60 with higher tier/newer cards
@@drebodollaz3504no...you can't. (Unless you are talking about The highest oligarch tier). Got my hand on 4070, without dlss you can forget about ray tracing because often you won't even get that 60 fps
@@drebodollaz3504If you have 4080 or higher- yes.
I'd like to see how well a modern desktop GPU gimped to 40 watts would do ray tracing.
An RTX 3080 laptop basically has the same chip as a desktop 3070Ti (6144 core GA104), and when that is limited to 40W while on battery (I think, I don't remember exactly) the performance is pretty dismal... somebody should do a video on it.
@@leohuangchunwangthat why you plug it in
@@Bolt451 That why you get desktop for power. Laptop is not a good idea if you need some serious power, not with cooling of one.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 some people need portability and power and its impressive that you can get something that stacks up to a desktop 4080 when plugged in is not only impressive but useful to certain people.
@@Bolt451agreed, if I really needed top teir performance, I would’ve just built a desktop, but after gaming on only desktops for years, I wanted something really fast that I can take with me, so i recently-ish bought a Thinkpad P1 Gen 6 with a (unfortunately 80w+20w) RTX 4090 for a decent deal. (Won a US eBay auction, US machine shipped to AU, even after the crazy shipping costs it was still a lot less than if I bought it from AU Lenovo directly. (Plus Lenovo voiding the machines standard 1 year warranty once i registered it in Australia, so I’m pretty much screwed if something happens to it)
After owning it for a few months though, wasn’t really the best choice for me. The power limited RTX 4090 means performance is somewhat underwhelming compared to my much older desktops. (ie, FC5 from 2018 struggles to hit 60fps at 4K maxed out details due to the GPU’s power limit, I’d think it should easily hit 100+ in 4K but again that power limit)
Might sell it and save up for a Legion 7 w/ a 175w RTX 4090, though the RTX 5000 series will be out by then so probably best I stick with it for now)
DLSS 3 doesn't mean frame generation, if that is what you were wondering on portal. DLSS 3 does include frame generation too on the newer cards, but it's the newest upscaling stuff over the board.
also he was looking at the wrong graphical settings and the visual glitches were most likely caused by modifying them
that would explain everything going back to normal after restarting the game and using the right settings
Frame generation has been released by amd for every amd card. But nvidia? No dont think so.They can but they wont. Money milking company
@alihosseini8797 they did its implemented in dlss 3 for 40 series cards only while the 30 cards have dlss 3 upscaling with it
The main problem with RTX on laptops is manufacturers are obsessed with making laptops thin if laptops were thick and bulky again we’d have more performance by now
i would like to see a laptop with modern hardware and the thickness of a thinkpad g41
and non-gamer laptops would be the thin ones.
@@floydlooney6837 yeah
We still do have current gen thick and bulky gaming laptops that offer some of the best performance on the market, issue is that A: they are for most people often prohibitly expensive and B: not everyone wants a thick brick scolding jet engine on their lap or even on thier desk, but they still want to play games! hense why thin and slick gaming laptops are offered, picked up a Zephyrus G14 recently and its pretty powerful for how thin and small it is and absolutely love it
@@pelehosmusic contrary to popular belief, you're probably not doing any sort of gaming on your laptop with it on your lap, even with a controller.
Trust me, I've already tried
8:51
This is how the switch 2 will look, mark my words, Nontendo will abuse the hell out of DLSS.
Probably. It'll still most likely be a 30 fps system also.
@@ProjectFraz totally agree
assuming they dont jump to amd like the ps5 and xbox
Good, it's perfect for mobile devices.
@@alexandrebelair4360 Dude, it looks like absolute garbage
When I was in the hospital I took my not-so-gamer Thinkpad with me to play Fallout 4 or New Vegas, one night I set up on an old wall-mount A/C unit and blasted 55F cold air on the bottom and got about 20C lower temps. I was worried that the temp difference could condensate inside so I didn't do it for very long, but surprised it worked for a laptop without a lot of ventilation.
Its not a problem, as long as it is above room temperature. And hospitals LOVE their room temps be low.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Oh yeah, I believe it. The section I was in at the time was delivery ward as a supervisor to the package courier in the room and temps were probably kept about 70-72F, that's why I kind of worried about it. Then again there was more important things to worry over.
What Thinkpad is it? I got a RTX 4090 equipped US P1 Gen 6 brand new for a bit more than half price (off of an eBay* auction that I “accidentally” won) than if I had bought direct from Lenovo AU.
*Don’t recommend, since I bought it off of eBay and shipped it to Australia, the machines 1 year standard warranty was immediately void and Lenovo have been dicking me around saying the machine never came with a warranty, and that eBay isn’t a “sanctioned” place to buy their laptops from
@@thegeforce6625 It's an old Thinpad E560, has an i5-6200U, Intel HD 520 graphics, 16GB of DDR3 and a 2.5" Crucial MX500 1TB. I've upgraded it since I was in the hospital to what it is now, isn't bad for free corporate garbage. I just wish I had a more powerful Brickpad to build into a gaming laptop but haven't found such a thing, it's either too old or too expensive for old equipment.
@@aku2dimensional nice nice, not a bad machine even today.
And yeah I agree, I got a high end (but essentially perfect condition) W530 in late 2022 and that cost me about $500aud, and spend probably a extra $150-200 in upgrades such as the i7 3940XM (fastest 3rd gen core mobile CPU) and a 2TB hard drive (I picked a specific model because the manufacturer somehow crammed 3 platters into a standard 9.5mm tall enclosure)
I have a 4090, and I don't even bother with the psycho setting. Personally I can barely tell the difference between ultra and psycho, but psycho makes the GPU work significantly harder, but for minimal benefit.
i can barely tell the difference between ray tracing on and off from a 3070 owner
Just use pathtracing
@@NamTran-xc2ipYeah I played through CP2077 on my 4070 Ti with path tracing because it looked so much better. Theres definitely a big difference between path tracing and the normal ray tracing modes, especially in GI.
@@weewa.1how? Without rt reflections there's so many things with such inaccurate reflections or they don't even have any at all, and without rt lighting a lot of the scene just ends up looking rather flat
I leave RT on but limit fps at 60. This way I save 100-130 watts on power draw and around 400 rpm on fans
I picked up this Victus from Best Buy two months ago, it was a return and I got it for $600.
I love it, it's all I need to enjoy the games I want to play.
Specs?
Glad you put 32gb in, as someone who just did a review on a laptop with limited vram, I noticed going from 16gb to 32gb made a difference because once the card runs out of vram it starts pulling from the system ram which may be all used up then starts page filing off your ssd.
You also need to check your GPUs wattage since there are probably 8 different variants of that card.
Yeah the RTX 3050 in my laptop goes up to 90w but his seems like its 70w to me
BRO for some people who can't afford a good laptop that hp victus is like a dream for us .
you can get a better pc at the same price lol
@@bititboi yes i agree pc can give way better performance than a laptop at this price but i am a student so i have portablity issues so laptop is good for me ☺☺
I am with you
“Hair on my eyeballs” was a new one for me.
I guess they should've called it the RT 3030
The new 3050 6gigs should be called like that 💀
@@zsideswapper6718 that one can be the RT 3040
@@zsideswapper6718 What's kinda funny is that the 3050 6GB on laptops can end up being slightly faster due to having a handful more cuda cores. The 3050 lineup itself is a truly strange existence if you include the 2050 with it as a weird cousin.
RandomGamingInHD just released a video using a workstation GPU (the A400), it's basically that kind of idea. I'm kind of hoping Dawid does too.
The flipped upside down laptop position is brilliant! 😂👌
i do that all the time aswell lmao
some laptops use the keyboard for airflow or to just help radiate heat. I wouldn't necessarily say that having it upside down and closed is best for thermals. probably more like sitting on the lid with the body raised in the air
2:10, never do this. if it gets hot then it will damage the screen
I love that even at maximum raytracing, Control still runs better on the 2050 than it did on last-gen consoles.
Not related to this video but I wanted to say a BIG
BIG THANK YOU Dawid! I didn't know about enabling XMP in the bios, I bought a used system which came with 3200MHz RAM but was running at 2333MHz thanks to your videos this is now fixed :)
Dawid is by far one of my favorite tech TH-camrs. The video quality is always great and i can see the hard work that goes into this channel
1060 6gb is better then this 2050.....
U do realise that ur comparing a desktop gpu to a laptop gpu?
@@mehdibendada53041060 mobile is exact same specs as the desktop version, just about 100mhz slower in clock. So yes, rtx 2050 is slower than 1060 mobile in rasterization.
That GPU isn't terrible.
I dislike how people bash perfectly fine
GPU's.
I've ran into comment sections that have put down a literal 4060 Ti, to put that into perspective a 3060 Ti is a 2080 Super performance-wise, so imagine how much faster a 4060 Ti really is.
Why can't PC gamers ever be satisfied with a phenomenally fast non-flagship GPU?
@@CopenhagenMcjinkins because they’re slower than they supposed to be, only 10% performance increase and the price remains the same, really?
@@CopenhagenMcjinkins FYI, 3060 ti is around 35% faster than 2060 super while remain the same exact msrp
Dawid: let’s make Cyberpunk unplayable
Laptop: Why, what have I done to deserve such abuse?
Turning the laptop upside down was the most genius thing I have ever seen.
You are truly amazing 🙂
Dawid just wanna say that your videos inspired me to make my first PC build in over 10 years. I have been using a laptop and console since 2011 and not had a desktop in that time, I just finished my build...Gone from a 3050 Ti 'gaming laptop' to a PC with an RX 6750 XT! Keep up the good work man.
You made a great choice! Enjoy!
nice job
"It was performing at 1080p on low, which is wasn't doing on high. Anyway, let's make it unplayable". Dawid is the Let's Game It Out of the pc/tech space.
When you set cyberpunks ray tracing to Psycho, I think when it said 420 the counter switched from FPS to SPF 😂
What is spf
@@HSK_EDITS a measurement used to quantify the strength of sunscreen
@@HSK_EDITSSender Policy Framework
@@usernamequaalquerr now i am confused which of you guys are correct
@@HSK_EDITS both are joking. the original commenter made a joke about it being 420 seconds-per-frame.
Just got a laptop with the 2050. I love it since it's my first ever laptop/pc and I no longer need to go to internet cafes to play games and do school stuff. The 4050 laptop would have been a better option but budget stuff got in the way. :)
Seriously you could have choked that RTX with a Vienna sausage
Bro literally calling hp victus as potato pc 💀
something interesting - I have a version of the Victus with a 3050. But not the 4 GB 3050. NVIDIA actually released a refresh of the mobile 3050 but with 6 gbs of VRAM and an extra 500 CUDA cores. Might be an uncommon GPU you could take a look at.
It did perform decently for being such a cut-down low-power mobile GPU. A comparison to the Rx 6600/7600 at the same settings would be nice.
Portal, Minecraft and Quake are the best for testing as they do a fully raytraced rendering, where as most AAA titles only do the simplest of raytracing like simple global-illumination and flat reflections... cause RDNA can't do texture-lookups during raytracing.
a ray tracing card that doesn't know how to trace rays
Jirre bra, epic ‘exhaust fumes ad intro’ 😂😂😂
0:33 you need this kind of product?
been waiting for this one, good job
that smearing in cyberpunk is due to ray reconstruction.
11:18 "And for that, you get some remarkably shiny concrete!"
It's only a matter oft time until rust shines too...
Holy sh@t, that upside laptop for the airflow! My world was a lie until now! Thanks Dawid!
Had to use this on old laptops that overheat for a long time! It's so stupid but it works so well!
Ah but you forgot that some 2050s have lower wattage than others! Technicaly the slowest RTX GPU is specifically the 25W RTX 2050 in the Acer Aspire 14" running alongside the i5-1335U and 8GB of DDR4. Yeah, you can expect how well that'll go.
I have a 2050 and it is actually pretty good, there is for sure a bottleneck in this pc
i noticed in most of your tests the vram was maxed out and a lot of system ram was used. I'd love to see how these laptops fare with productivity software like adobe or blender using CUDA acceleration, or even blackmagic for video editing.
Portal RTX is VERY demanding. I only got a locked 30fps with a 3090. You need a 40 series card for it.
i got a 4090, and is barely playable.
Definitely demanding. Gigabyte 4070 Ti Super Windforce OC. No user overclock. In chamber 1 I got 30 FPS AVG. Max 40 FPS, Min 22 FPS. 23 FPS 1% Low, 22 FPS 0.1% Low. 2560x1440, Max settings in the normal video settings, Ultra settings in RTX menu, no DLSS, no motionblur. DLSS makes it very playable though, and looks great still.
i tested it on my old rx6900xt and it ran like cat barf. havent even bothered to test on my rtx 4080 because i frankly dont care.
That doesn't sound right, something else is afoot
How is that possible
Just as a confirmation: you DID enable the Victus's "Performance mode" in the included "HP Omen" bloatware?
Legitimately just asking.
mine didnt even have hp omen i had to install it myself
Why does this rtx 2050 gpu feels like the new generation of MX branded gpu from nvidia
because it is
1:40 im assuming that's a typo on the Asus's specs, showing both having a 2050?
This year I bought Victus 15 with RTX 3050 on it cuz I'm tight on budget, gotta say though this thing handle pretty decent
I only play Genshin on it, but the game itself also has global illumination update recently. Unfortunately no DLSS but FSR 2, but that update make Genshin quite heavy on PC
My Victus 15 can handle the Ultra settings but has fps drop around 45fps, I crank it down to High-Medium custom setting FSR2 still on and I've got stable lock 60fps and the game still beautiful AF with ray tracing still on 👍
Definitely one the oddest sponsors you've had Dawid. I need a Linode sponsorship again
Ray Tracing = Does anyone actually use this gimmick?
I do...
1:35 didn’t you just say one had a 3050? Or are there three laptops?
Well Dawid, that is not the slowest RTX GPU (for ray tracing)!
I have a 2020 Zephyrus g14 Laptop with an RTX 2060 max-q (65w) gpu, and even tho it perform way better than the rtx 2050 and somewhat better than the 3050 in Rasterization, its worse than both in Ray Tracing (1st gen RT cores and less of them!|). In Portal RTX with equivalent settings to yours i got 4 fps with no uspscaling (in the same shot at 4:22 in the video), and 27-33 fps with Ultra Performance DLSS in the red button shot at 4:16 in the video. So tecnically i have the slowest RTX gpu out there for raytracing :P
basically all rtx things can run dlss of any version, newer ones will look better, and you dlss frame gen doesn't work because nvidia says something is in 40 series cards that makes it possible, which we know is bs since you can just swap out dlss frame gen with FSR frame gen and make it work.
7:10 crank ray trace setting to max
Rtx2050: "Now I'm not doing it" and *ceases to work
DLSS was a significant feature of the RTX 20 series cards, so I wouldn’t say it’s unreasonable to say it can ray trace on portal
when its red,youre most likely dead💀💀💀
I can't get over the fact that the thermometer in the ad said 18,5 degrees and Dawid is sitting in a t-shirt
Chances are, if you're in an environment that requires a CO2 meter, you already have one, because it's required by law. What a strange ad...
1:40 You wrote RTX 2050 for both laptops eventhough one has the RTX 3050
1:38 isn't one of them supposed to be a 3050?
I bought the HP Victus 15 with intel 13th i5-13420H and RTX 3050, 32 gb of ram(upgraded), and 1tb ssd all included didn't really need to upgrade the ram and the internal memory, and it costed about roughly 816 - 817 usd converted last winter (September - October 2023), I dont really game on it heavily with triple A games mostly RTS games such as C&C series and COH series, so far been loving it as I had a really old MacBook from 2015 and before that was a Lenovo laptop which I dont remember what model it was.
enjoy your gaming laptop
watching this in rtx 2050 laptop, I bought to play mostly ps4 era games and work stuff, I am kinda suprised seeing its power, but I felt like people talk less about rtx 2050 in internet
Technically the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 support raytracing.... in software, but most titles just crash if you try to enable raytracing and those that dont... well its pretty but a powerpoint presentation would have better frames.
Yup. I've tried it on the Titan Xp (1090) and Titan V. The V can actually sometimes make it happen at 1080p, but the Xp is a total powerpoint machine. The Xp is still in my player 2 rig. Sadly I sold the V during the cryto craze for more than I bought it. I kinda with I'd done the reverse with those 2.
I just wanted to say that my i5 13th gen rtx 3050 HP Victus is so much better than the 3050 in the video, but to be fair it is 6 gbvram and I think way more speced out.
Dawid FYI - there is DLSS 3 upscaling and DLSS 3 Frame Generation. Those are not the same things.
Frame Generation is either on or off.
DLSS 3 upscaling is what you used here in Portal.
DLSS 3 Frame Gen is available on 40 series only. BUT the DLSS 3 upscaling (which is a lot better than DLSS 1, DLSS 2 upscaling) is available on ALL Nvidia RTX Gpus, so 20/30/40 series.
many ppl confuse the upscaler with frame gen. Nvidia calling both things DLSS 3 is incredibly stupid.
turning DLSS on in-game is the upscaler. Afaik the DLSS 3 Frame Generation setting is called "Frame Generation", so usually you turn on DLSS upscaling on quality mode or higher and then activate the frame gen on top. They arent just one single combined setting tho.
Hello Dawid long time subscriber here. Here's a video suggestion Try FSR 3.0 with older RDNA 1 and 2 Cards and compare the differences to Rdna 3 cards results. Would be a great video if you are trying to save a buck on your gpu. For example you could buy a 5700xt used for 100$ instead of 6750xt for 450$. Love the videos and the intro always makes me have a good mood!
There isn't much difference aside from the newer cards seeing a bigger uplift in some titles. I've run my own benchmarks with a 5700XT, 6700 10GB, and 7900XTX. RDNA2/3 APUs see about the same uplift as RDNA2 GPUs. I think a more interesting comparison might be XeSS on ARC vs non-arc cards, as there is a difference in the system used internally with ARC cards having special accelerators for it that are in a way "emulated" on other GPUs in DP4a mode.
You should benchmark metro:exodus the special edition, it has great implementetation of DLSS and RTX
You would probably get more frames if you closed the door on the car in Cyberpunk.
It's playabe at 1080p med,RT reflections high,local n sun shadows medium n dlls performance on
Missed opportunity to use the Laptop Coorel
20 fps is what i played half life 1 at on a pentium 166 thinkpad, it was rough and pixelated.
You could play a game like that, helps to look at the floor as much as possible but with enough determination its doable.
Quake 2 also! It worked pretty well on the software renderer, not dissimilar from what we see here save graphical fidelity.
thats how i played quake1 on a 486 dx4 100mhz with reduced window size. by the time hl rolled out i was lucky enough to be sporting a pentium mmx 233mhz with a voodoo2. nice and playable good frames rates @ full screen 640x480
The fact that either machine can get a playable framerate on these games is remarkable.
The psycho button does literally nothing if path tracing is enabled. Just FYI. Path tracing is the most intensive and its holistically ray tracing, you can't modify thr path tracing settings from the menu, its either on or off.
This is my EXACT laptop, I felt offended as soon as the video started
How is the laptop?
I bought that 2050 victus with ryzen 5 7535hs and 8 gigs ram, since it was the only laptop i found for my budget and they were the only one to cut the payment to 6 without any interest, have i made a mistake?
I mean im not looking for 144 fps full graphics in every single game.
How is it?
@@Latency_ I mean for price performance its good, im playing days gone and horizın forbidden west rn, downlanded dlss 3.7mod for horizon so m playng with 45 fps stable on it and days gone around 144fps
@@seha4943 sickk. I'm planning on getting the same laptop but with 16 gb ddr5 memory. Hope it turns out well, since I've seen a lot of comments flaming the rtx 2050
Are u using a 1440p monitor for that gpu? I am asking because it's definitely a 1080p card at max
What I do for a laptop on a desk is to use a cookie cooling rack. Perfect to keep the fans from suffocating on a desk!
if any, this shows that dlss and frame generation really help those with low end cards. really, wow.
doesn't the rtx 2050 have dedicated gddr?
If you're finding that turning your laptop upside-down gives you a pretty good temperature drop... I'd suggest at least taking a look at the best laptop cooling stand ever built. It's called the IETS GT600 and it's about $100 but it will drop that 80c temp down to 65-75 (as long as laptop has bottom vents) and it's absolutely guaranteed to improve performance. This device can completely eliminate temperature throttling as a performance problem on a laptop that you are testing... or if it cannot, then it means that laptop needs a repaste.
as a person with acer nitro 5, i5 11th gen, gtx 1650, I see this as an absolute win
I love some tay racing
Can you expand on this video and potentially try Lossless scaling with this GPU and the same games? x2/x3/x4 mode? I don't have the GPU or anything just thought that would be a fun experiment.
The thing I learned in today's video is that Dawid has a shiny new voiceover mic.
Laptops are really tricky when it comes to designing them specifically for gaming. Normally all of the parts are super closed together and require considerations made in order to manage temperatures. Also, there is battery that is hugely affected by running a GPU (any mobile GPU designed for laptops) and as a result often see very short battery life on a single charge. I think if someone is considering getting a gaming laptop they should be wary of these known complications and be okay with the performance a 2050/3050 offers mostly because it will be much slower to cool down after long gaming sessions
DLSS3 works on all RTX cards lmao, it's the frame generation feature that is disabled on non-40 series cards. (They are NOT the same thing). I thought this was well established in the tech world already lmao
the 50s series cards are literally for office / light gaming pcs or esports gaming pcs at 1080p
I run fortnite on my laptop that has a 4050, at low settings(And DirectX 12) and epic distance, and I get odd frame stutters constantly
I feel it's not so much the hardware but the game itself, it is prone to lagspiking even when nothing intense is happening
That's why we call it Stutternite lol
Yea its fortnite itself. Directx12 makes it stutter like crazy, when i used to play it with my friends i always preffered to leave it on directx11.
Man, that's an interesting video, but for a tech blogger you should probably know, that...
First, sure thing it runs DLSS 3. DLSS 3 contains two modules: one for frame generation and one for frame upscaling. Frame generation requires RTX 40+, frame upscaling requires RTX20+.
Second, where did you get that laptop position from? Did you know that at least some laptops input cold air through the keyboard? Yeah, talk about the "airflow" with a closed lid! Not to mention that keeping such a hot thing close to the screen might damage the screen itself.
Isn't the cpu thermal throttling?
Man, even just watching that movement from a camera beside David is making me feel slightly queasy.
Dude I didnt even KNOW they made a 2050. I know its mobile but how did I not know about this cards existence for this long lol.
The Nintendo switch 2 is rumoured to have a Tegra around that level of performance. Don't know if that's gonna be true but it would be great
The gaming aspect is a complementary feature..like the extra wipe on your windshield..
I'm not sure what kind of demon infested 3050 is in the other laptop you're using, but it performs surprisingly poorly, I think I get much better results from my laptop.
you're supposed to only used the "raytracing" menu, they tell you specifically do not use the in game graphics settings
as a RTX 3050 user i fricking knew it when i saw this video in my recommended page
I upgraded from a 3060ti to a 4070ti and I really have to say that I did not feel like DLSS 2.0 did much and had too many negatives in how it looked. But I was very pleasantly surprised with the 3.0 on the 40 series card. I couldn't even tell it was enabled. But I can't imagine how it would look on a 1.0 20 series card lol. Unless their driver updates have really just brought it that far since I used the 3060ti?
What app is used to get see the temps? Is it msi afterburner? If it is, how do I make it work?
Yeah it's MSI Afterburner with Rivatuner - Jayz2cents has a pretty good tutorial on it
Probably someone mentioned it already, but the 2050 is not a bad choice if you take the card max power draw into consideration. A lot of entry laptops sport a 3050 that can only draw 35/40W max, those don't do better than a 70W 2050 at least in regular gaming.