Father in law borrowed his Winchester 1200 to me. I like to return anything I borrow in the same or better condition than when it was given to me. This video helped me do that. Thank you!
My Uncle gave me a Model 1200 in 1974. I'm surprised that my mother allowed it. I still have it along with the three chokes, and the choke tool. I'm just missing the wooden magazine plug. I didn't know what that was for back then. Until watching this film I didn't realize that the choke tool could also used to remove the lock down ring for the upper stock removal. Thanks for posting this video!
Somehow every disassembly video for the same gun is different. Hahahaha. One guy removes the barrel, takes the trigger group out and pulls the forearm off with the action bars and the bolt still sitting on the action bars. Done. Thanks for the video.
Just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up a Sears and Roebuck M200...seemingly aka Winchester 1200 for almost nothing and needed to break it down to check it out. Other than shooting the spring across the room (my fault and the best shooting oops you can have in this situation) this helped me considerably.
Thanks for the video my 20 gauge was having a little problem with staying locked with a bullet in the chamber so I watched your video took it apart it was kind of gummed up inside so I cleaned it watched your reassembly video and put it back together now it works better so THANKS
Mossberg 500/590 and 930 series tubes simply thread on and off; Remingtons are silver soldered in I believe. Unless they're damaged in some way, however, they shouldn't need to be removed. The guts come out easily enough for cleaning/maintenance.
Which one are you thinking of? Removing the mag tube from the 1200/1300 is more of a pain than any modern shotgun I can think of. Older ones were sometimes soldered in but most new ones can be replaced pretty easily when necessary.
Nice job. Very down to earth. I needed your refresher course as I haven't cleaned my gun for awhile as I haven't hunted for a couple years. Going dove hunting in central Nebraska next week!! Need "pal" to shut OFF the music during your video. :) Now need a video on proper cleaning. :)
I also generally dislike music in the background but this is SRV man!! :D I am jealous of your hunting trip. Cleaning is fairly straightforward and similar to any shotgun. Lately I just hide everything with ballistol or CLP and wile it down. Bore snake for the barrel. Have fun on your trip :)
My dad got me a 12 gauge version of this gun yesterday so im researching it before we go shooting tomorrow. No idea why i watched this but im sure it may help anyway :P Thx
On mine the ejector is one piece of spring steel, with a curve bent in it. There is no separate coil spring if that's what you mean. I can't figure out where a coil spring would go. Did you mean extractor?
You can disassemble everything. But like you said the trigger assembly there’s no need other than cleaning and put in some grease very little on the springs. Then put going to oil coat the trigger assembly and lightly wipe off, when you put it back together then you can wipe down any access
Hey so I did the first step and took off the cap to remove the barrel... Now unlike your video a large 2.5 foot spring shot out... is this normal? Thanks
Thank you for posting this vid. Helped me tremendously identifying the model I have 1200 and the operating problem I have with it. The previous owner never replaced he ejector and spring. :O) Soon to be fully functional. :O)
I just bought this model 12 ga from my neighbor and then found out it won't eject the spent casing. The little catch on the end of the spring is broken off so the "grabber" can't catch the shell. I was hoping you would show how to disassemble the bolt.
That's call the "extractor." There are some videos on youtube about bolt disassembly if you look around. You'll need a sturdy set of punches to drive out a pin or two. It's not terribly difficult. Good luck!
I still have my Sears M200 12-guage that I got new in about '65 or '66 when I was about age 12 or 13. I believe the last time I fired it was about '68 or '69. I always cleaned it well immediately afterward and since then cleaned it once or twice. It still appears to be in mint condition but I never disassembled it for cleaning beyond removing the barrel. What's your guess as to the condition of the inners you show here, and should I bother to go to that extent with another cleaning? Good video, and thanks!
Jim it's likely fine if you have cleaned and oiled it occasionally. You might want to take it down and give it another wipedown. Better yet go shoot it! :D
how to take apart the firing pin block it you will see a little hole at the top and you have to punch it out. it its a heavy spring so when you pull the punch make sure that where the back of the firing pin goes is against the table or something. because there will be a little washer that will shoot out of there so fast and you will never find it. it is hard to put it back together, but once you take it apart you will understand how to put it back together.
Not sure, but from the pics I've seen it appears to be the same design. If you're just trying to field strip the gun you don't need to remove the wood from the forend tube/slider. Just keep it all in one piece and remove the forend as a unit. If you are trying to replace the wood, you'll have to remove it from the metal tube/sleeve underneath by removing the retaining ring as noted.
Im very new to guns so i dont know much of the terms yet. But i did some messing around and got the wooden part off. Thats what i wanted to do. Cant find much info on th m200. Must not be popular.
Yours may not have one; some variations don't. If yours has a hole for one in the slide arm bridge and in the bolt, you can find one at Numrich (google it) part number 1591900B
@deathfrets I haven't done any waterfowl or turkey hunting with this gun, sorry. In any case, you should try a few different loads in your gun and pattern them, to find out what works best for you. It's impossible to predict what load will work best for any particular gun.
every shotgun disassembly video ive seen they never take the tube off. ive got a Winchester model 12, and the barrel and mag tube come off in one piece which is nice. then again it is a takedown gun, but any new shotguns like mossbergs or remingtons look like its harder to take off.
So I have had a Model 140 20 Gauge for a long time but haven't really had it in my possession so I finally have it back so I took it all the way down, even the bolt assembly. There is a hole at the top that you can put a small screwdriver in to push out the pin that will release the spring inside of the firing pin housing (there is a bigger spring with a lot more compression as well as a small washer and when the spring is removed, the extractor comes off). So fine, I get it apart and clean the rust and carbon off. Now I am ready to put it back together but I cannot. Anyone know the process or a trick in reassembly? At this point, I feel dumb for taking it apart in the first place. Lesson learned: Use Gunscrub for the bolt housing and oil it well afterward......
Nice - I marked up my slide arm cap on my 13 ga 1200 using a brass punch to loosen it 🙁 found a good used replacement - anyone interested in the old one?
Not normal but not uncommon. you're missing the mag spring retaining cap. Not a big deal, but you do have to make sure the barrel nut/mag cap is on tight. It shouldn't hurt anything and will probably function normally.
Your shotgun is missing a screw. The piece you call "the slide bar bridge," is supposed to have a screw that secures it to the bolt carrier. Good video, also, you don't have to remove the forearm from the action pump.
so i am going to get a shotgun and i am disiding on a winchester or a mossberg and i am leaning on mossber because it is simpler and i like the controls beter
That's the way I'd go if the prices are comparable. The Mossberg is a better design overall and parts are much more common than on these older Winchesters.
only reason I ask is because I have a friend who wanted a Mossberg 500 and he wanted to be able to break it down enough to put in a backpack so he could carry it on his motorcycle with him.
Dunno what to tell you... maybe try some penetrating oil overnight. If not, either take it to a gunsmith or live with your permanently attached barrel. :)
It's unnecessary to remove the screw out of the "slide bar bridge " in order to remove the slide assembly and the bolt carrier. Only remove for further bolt disassembly and cleaning.
Seriously? You thought this was a good environment for doing this video? Not sure what you do for a living but I can't imagine its anything which demands professionalism.
Seriously??? I liked it made me feel like we just finished eating cleaned up the mess then cleared the counter to start breaking down guns. I thought it was very personable. You don’t always need a $10k camera with a custom built studio to make great content. Imagine doing this video outside and the birds were loud and dogs barked and people complained.
@@Gary-yc4cq Not sure how you feel about handling guns, ammo or handloading components but many people like to keep their environment free of distractions which may lead to mistakes and possibly an accident. In case you didn't pick up on the sarcasm in the comment from @Dutch_Prepper from 3 years ago, I'm not the only one who felt the same.
Nice and silent environment to take a video like this ... Very soothing.
LOL
@@jeffshootsstuff ;o)
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Love the family sounds in the background 👍
You’re the first one… most people can’t stand it LOL
Father in law borrowed his Winchester 1200 to me. I like to return anything I borrow in the same or better condition than when it was given to me. This video helped me do that. Thank you!
A wise policy!
Cleaning my 870 then went to the 1200. Forgot that they were completely different disassembled great video an oldie but goodie.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for getting straight to the point rather than spending 20 minutes showing off something unrelated like way to many of this type of video.
say, that 'minds me of a story about my old pudelpointer.... LOL
I am so grateful for this video. I mostly have mossbergs, and I could not figure out how to disassemble this thing. Thank you very much
Great to hear!
My Uncle gave me a Model 1200 in 1974. I'm surprised that my mother allowed it. I still have it along with the three chokes, and the choke tool. I'm just missing the wooden magazine plug. I didn't know what that was for back then. Until watching this film I didn't realize that the choke tool could also used to remove the lock down ring for the upper stock removal. Thanks for posting this video!
You're welcome. If you need a magazine plug you can just cut a section of dowel to the right length.
Somehow every disassembly video for the same gun is different. Hahahaha. One guy removes the barrel, takes the trigger group out and pulls the forearm off with the action bars and the bolt still sitting on the action bars. Done. Thanks for the video.
Thanks, I have the Canadian model 2200 pretty much the same gun. After firing 300+ shells I have found this video Most helpful. Cheers
I have the model 2200 too.... What are your thoughts on it
Just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up a Sears and Roebuck M200...seemingly aka Winchester 1200 for almost nothing and needed to break it down to check it out. Other than shooting the spring across the room (my fault and the best shooting oops you can have in this situation) this helped me considerably.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the video my 20 gauge was having a little problem with staying locked with a bullet in the chamber so I watched your video took it apart it was kind of gummed up inside so I cleaned it watched your reassembly video and put it back together now it works better so THANKS
LOL, Thanks for the video. I started to take mine apart to clean it and stopped at the action being nervous to flying parts until I watched this.
VERY informative video, thank you very much for posting this, great filming as well.
Thank you!
Mossberg 500/590 and 930 series tubes simply thread on and off; Remingtons are silver soldered in I believe. Unless they're damaged in some way, however, they shouldn't need to be removed. The guts come out easily enough for cleaning/maintenance.
The 12 and 20 gauges come apart and go back together exactly the same way. Be sure to thank your dad and pay him back by living an honorable life. :)
Thanks for the video,getting ready to clean up my dads old 1200.
Glad to help!
Thanks, great video, very useful. Just picked up a 1200 Defender and now I'm up to speed very quickly!
Which one are you thinking of? Removing the mag tube from the 1200/1300 is more of a pain than any modern shotgun I can think of. Older ones were sometimes soldered in but most new ones can be replaced pretty easily when necessary.
Nice job. Very down to earth. I needed your refresher course as I haven't cleaned my gun for awhile as I haven't hunted for a couple years. Going dove hunting in central Nebraska next week!! Need "pal" to shut OFF the music during your video. :) Now need a video on proper cleaning. :)
I also generally dislike music in the background but this is SRV man!! :D I am jealous of your hunting trip. Cleaning is fairly straightforward and similar to any shotgun. Lately I just hide everything with ballistol or CLP and wile it down. Bore snake for the barrel. Have fun on your trip :)
oops sorry it was Louis Prima :D
Thanks for the demo. Helped a lot!
Glad to hear it!
My dad got me a 12 gauge version of this gun yesterday so im researching it before we go shooting tomorrow. No idea why i watched this but im sure it may help anyway :P Thx
On mine the ejector is one piece of spring steel, with a curve bent in it. There is no separate coil spring if that's what you mean. I can't figure out where a coil spring would go. Did you mean extractor?
Thanks for posting this!
what kind of ammo have you found too shoot well out of this gun for waterfoul and or turkey?
Thanks for the video !!! Hardly anything on the 1200
You can disassemble everything. But like you said the trigger assembly there’s no need other than cleaning and put in some grease very little on the springs. Then put going to oil coat the trigger assembly and lightly wipe off, when you put it back together then you can wipe down any access
Hey so I did the first step and took off the cap to remove the barrel... Now unlike your video a large 2.5 foot spring shot out... is this normal? Thanks
Is the trigger assembly polymer or metal?
Pretty sure the housing and trigger guard are polymer.
Thanks
You're welcome!
Thank you, this was a big help
Glad to hear it!
@fireworld80 What's the length on what?
What is the name of the piece in the minute 5:28 and the measurements?
Love the music in the background man.
+Youaregoingto learnthehardway Hey, thanks man. Took me 6 years to grow it.
@jeffshootsstuff It did, I got one about 2 yrs ago and I haven't used it in a while...I spaced on how it came apart...and went right to youtube
Good explanation but were you working in an industrial kitchen?
Thank you for posting this vid. Helped me tremendously identifying the model I have 1200 and the operating problem I have with it. The previous owner never replaced he ejector and spring. :O) Soon to be fully functional. :O)
Did your model have an ejector spring? I heard that some models might not have an ejector spring.
Is that Louie Prima in the background?
good ear
Mine has been powder coated before I got it. I just tryed to remove the barrel and it doesnt move..
now y is it that the mag tube doesn't come off of newer shotguns?
I just bought this model 12 ga from my neighbor and then found out it won't eject the spent casing. The little catch on the end of the spring is broken off so the "grabber" can't catch the shell. I was hoping you would show how to disassemble the bolt.
That's call the "extractor." There are some videos on youtube about bolt disassembly if you look around. You'll need a sturdy set of punches to drive out a pin or two. It's not terribly difficult. Good luck!
I still have my Sears M200 12-guage that I got new in about '65 or '66 when I was about age 12 or 13. I believe the last time I fired it was about '68 or '69. I always cleaned it well immediately afterward and since then cleaned it once or twice. It still appears to be in mint condition but I never disassembled it for cleaning beyond removing the barrel. What's your guess as to the condition of the inners you show here, and should I bother to go to that extent with another cleaning? Good video, and thanks!
Jim it's likely fine if you have cleaned and oiled it occasionally. You might want to take it down and give it another wipedown. Better yet go shoot it! :D
how to take apart the firing pin block it you will see a little hole at the top and you have to punch it out. it its a heavy spring so when you pull the punch make sure that where the back of the firing pin goes is against the table or something. because there will be a little washer that will shoot out of there so fast and you will never find it. it is hard to put it back together, but once you take it apart you will understand how to put it back together.
I have a sears m200. Would i take the forearm the same way, being its pretty much the same gun?
Not sure, but from the pics I've seen it appears to be the same design. If you're just trying to field strip the gun you don't need to remove the wood from the forend tube/slider. Just keep it all in one piece and remove the forend as a unit. If you are trying to replace the wood, you'll have to remove it from the metal tube/sleeve underneath by removing the retaining ring as noted.
Im very new to guns so i dont know much of the terms yet. But i did some messing around and got the wooden part off. Thats what i wanted to do. Cant find much info on th m200. Must not be popular.
+602DeShizzle602 The M200 is the Winchester 1200 made for and marketed by Sears. The Model 120 is the 1200, but made for and marketed by K-Mart.
Thanks Jeff. Where can i find the scrue that holds the bolt?
Yours may not have one; some variations don't. If yours has a hole for one in the slide arm bridge and in the bolt, you can find one at Numrich (google it) part number 1591900B
Glad to be of help! I wish my attic were stuffed with guns. :D
@deathfrets I haven't done any waterfowl or turkey hunting with this gun, sorry. In any case, you should try a few different loads in your gun and pattern them, to find out what works best for you. It's impossible to predict what load will work best for any particular gun.
nice louis prima in background lol
Good ear!
Great content man! Thank you, helped alot!
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
The ejector on mine has a spring. I didn't see one on yours.
yeah, some do, some don't. Some are screwed in, some aren't.
The length of the barrel will be the main concern, if he removes the mag tube from the receiver.
great content, keep it up
Aww, at 2:21 he called us honey.. lol. Good video though.
10 thumbs up on the double check and the saftey shown. Great job
every shotgun disassembly video ive seen they never take the tube off. ive got a Winchester model 12, and the barrel and mag tube come off in one piece which is nice. then again it is a takedown gun, but any new shotguns like mossbergs or remingtons look like its harder to take off.
So I have had a Model 140 20 Gauge for a long time but haven't really had it in my possession so I finally have it back so I took it all the way down, even the bolt assembly. There is a hole at the top that you can put a small screwdriver in to push out the pin that will release the spring inside of the firing pin housing (there is a bigger spring with a lot more compression as well as a small washer and when the spring is removed, the extractor comes off). So fine, I get it apart and clean the rust and carbon off. Now I am ready to put it back together but I cannot. Anyone know the process or a trick in reassembly? At this point, I feel dumb for taking it apart in the first place. Lesson learned: Use Gunscrub for the bolt housing and oil it well afterward......
th-cam.com/video/zQkqdMPoCMY/w-d-xo.htmlm16s spartan762 has a vid on bolt assembly. make sure you start at 5:16 after he does it wrong once. :D
Ya, I found that one right after I posted on your page. Thanks for commenting back! Take care.
Thanks for your help.
Nice - I marked up my slide arm cap on my 13 ga 1200 using a brass punch to loosen it 🙁 found a good used replacement - anyone interested in the old one?
12 Ga 🙄
a 13 gauge would be cool though :D
Nice video! Thanks!
@josetarangotx dunno... why would you want to?
Not normal but not uncommon. you're missing the mag spring retaining cap. Not a big deal, but you do have to make sure the barrel nut/mag cap is on tight. It shouldn't hurt anything and will probably function normally.
@wavelength1970 You're welcome... hope it helped
Way too much background noise
Funny Italian music in the background. These are great shotguns.
Your shotgun is missing a screw. The piece you call "the slide bar bridge," is supposed to have a screw that secures it to the bolt carrier. Good video, also, you don't have to remove the forearm from the action pump.
Annotations state that you don't have to remove the forearm. And the screw is visible at 3:14. Right?
Aww, he called the viewer "sweetheart"
He was talking to the person holding the camera.
I don’t like using any metal to tap out the pin On any weapon. You can use a plastic rod or something that’s not going to scratch or leave a mark.
so i am going to get a shotgun and i am disiding on a winchester or a mossberg and i am leaning on mossber because it is simpler and i like the controls beter
That's the way I'd go if the prices are comparable. The Mossberg is a better design overall and parts are much more common than on these older Winchesters.
To check for clear I usually just rack my shotgun a good 50 times
LOL a wise practice :D
only reason I ask is because I have a friend who wanted a Mossberg 500 and he wanted to be able to break it down enough to put in a backpack so he could carry it on his motorcycle with him.
It's just a little noisy there in the background. Just a little.
Nice show, I would remove the background song (noise)
Duly noted. I wasn't really thinking about it at the time.
Not good where is the spring and all the parts that come out when you take that cap off before you take the barrel out
The spring is properly retained by the proper spring retainer and isn't involved in a field strip.
@KURGAN44 Cool. Glad it helped
You're welcome! :)
Was it really necessary to have all the background noise?
Yeah I added it in post production just for you
I heard Louis Prima.
Good ear!
Stopped a third of the way in. Banging in background was too loud and distracting. Lighting was bad.
Sounds like a bar fight going on in the background.
Yeh, welcome to my life LOL
Can I call you snookums? Angel drawers?
Dunno what to tell you... maybe try some penetrating oil overnight. If not, either take it to a gunsmith or live with your permanently attached barrel. :)
@jollyranchhand cool!
It's unnecessary to remove the screw out of the "slide bar bridge " in order to remove the slide assembly and the bolt carrier. Only remove for further bolt disassembly and cleaning.
On mine you can't get the bolt out the front of the receiver with the screw in place.
@PRSwannaB welcome to my life! LOL
....lol....love the comments...hehehe
What the hack is going on in the background?
Sounds like someone beating on pots and pans. Very distracting.
Welcome to my life
Im gona leave it alone.
What's wit all the sound in the background.... really made this video hard to watch... WTF?
@darrencg So don't watch it...
Noise.
Welcome to my life
It's for sure not done in a proper gun shop ...lol...
You can say that again LOL
I'm glad this isn't a brain surgery "how to".
lol
LOL
Child labour?
Seriously? You thought this was a good environment for doing this video? Not sure what you do for a living but I can't imagine its anything which demands professionalism.
Sounds great thanks
Seriously??? I liked it made me feel like we just finished eating cleaned up the mess then cleared the counter to start breaking down guns. I thought it was very personable. You don’t always need a $10k camera with a custom built studio to make great content. Imagine doing this video outside and the birds were loud and dogs barked and people complained.
@@Gary-yc4cq Not sure how you feel about handling guns, ammo or handloading components but many people like to keep their environment free of distractions which may lead to mistakes and possibly an accident. In case you didn't pick up on the sarcasm in the comment from @Dutch_Prepper from 3 years ago, I'm not the only one who felt the same.