Old and ruined Winchester 1897 restoration - gun restoration
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- In this video, im going to show a restoration of an old and ruined winchester 1897. This winchester model 1897 is a riot gun, but there are the cover of a trench gun. This it was done to raise its price. During this gun restoration video, during i work on this old and ruined winchester 1897, is use only original tecniques to preser the old finishin.
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not a freaking chance
lmfao
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this has the look of a reasonably well preserved gun that was artificially weathered.
Hmm I don’t thank but just my take on looking how hard everything was on the break down of shotgun
I've watched a ton of these restoration videos. I'd really like to see one on how they rust them up first.
fax another ruined piece for what content?
@@Kluee if you're asking for clarification- the only time I've seen a gun that rusty was in every restoration video. Every restoration video. Every, single restoration video.
@@billdanosky perhaps, the only reason you would see a rusted gun in a restoration video, is because if they were unrusted, they would not need to be restored.
@@billdanoskywell if they were nice and clean they probably wouldn’t need to be restored huh? You’re brilliant 😂
@@gnarcotics_ I just proved this point in the reply above, but I guess your the smartest, genius.
im fully convinced that 90% of these channels oxidize and rust weapons in a matter of a week just to make content videos
Really it's a 1897 they were used in WW1.
He's saying OP is artificially aging the items for the sake of their video...
@@killbeers6890 exactly.
@@robertfandel9442 steel wool in the barrel, also wood NEVER LOOKS this clean after a supposed 100 years of being exposed to the weathering
That TH-cam money is to sweet.
No annoying back ground music ✅
Straight to the point ✅
ASMR (debatatble) ✅
10/10 video i loved the sounds
The best CYMA shotgun restoration ever!
Cyma? Hope you have see the final bro 😉
Intentionally Rusted/ Then this guy "Saves this Shot gun" 90% of these comments are praising this dude for fixing something he caused and was untruthful about.
Who cares HOW it got rusty. We're watching a restoration
@@antoinejackson4311 "who care" ?? Really ?...
those who love the truth :)
126 year old shotgun still getting it done. R.I.P Mr. Browning, your designs are timeless.
It's probably more like a 26 year old shotgun as it's a riot gun that's been made to look like a trench gun
Deliberately aged weapon, was it left in salt water for a couple weeks before this video?
My thoughts, it's rust is off.
More than likely.
@@france_stoneshore2150 It's almost the same kind of rust that was on this bloke's Spas12 video. Man's just destroying historic relics, no shame.
I’m sorry, but you MUST refinish the heat shield and re-install it on the weapon.
Heat shield is not original part. Is added for fraud the last owner. This is a riot gun not a trench gun.
@@restaurato6629 thanks
Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for clearing that up.
Gorilla Glue is amazing. I restored 2 completely broken stocks that were broken at the wrist. If you didn't look very closely you'd never have seen the joints.
Were you using oxalic acid on the rusted steel parts?
Agree 100%
Just thinking the same thing.
That one's a keeper! My grandpa had one just like it but sold it in a garage sale for $25 when I was a kid. He told me that he didn't need it anymore because he bought an 870. Luckily, I got the 870, but I sure wish I had that 1897!
More like a very serious cleaning than a restoration. But I'm glad it wasnt polished or anything. That old weathered and pitted look gives it that nostalgic look especially with these old west guns.
It makes me sick when I see old things like this neglected and trashed…makes me happy to see someone putting in the time 😊
You realise these "restoration" channels will deliberately age these weapons for content right? This guy has mistreated this relic just to bring it back to how it was
I do love firearms maintenance, but restoration is another level. As an Ordnanceman, this makes me happy to watch. Great work!
SWEET! I was expecting a before and after but not a firing test! Exceptionally cool! I'm glad you kept so much of the original character of the piece. Reconditioned but still looks old. Very nice!
I own one of this exact model! Passed down by my grandfather's grandfather. Really cool to see one bright back to life.
126 years old and yet it looks so impossibly modern !!! I really love the way you've retained the original patina !!!
the last 97 winchester pump was made in mid 1957 if u idjuts looked this stuff up before making yr selfs look like dufues u d be better off i have 5 of them one made in 1904
I WISH I could find one in that shape..nice restoration!
ah yes. My favorite kind of wood: rusted.
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I have my grandfathers 1890’s Belgian made Model 12 12 Gauge Automatic Shotgun. It has been taken Great Care of over the last century and shoots as good today as when it was new.
hope it stays within your family forever
How nerve wracking was that first test shot is what I'd like to know lol. Honest to God, my new favorite channel obsession. Remarkable work here, truly an art
BallisticBackyard is simply better.
Nice job! Saved but not ruined by a overzealous restoration. I’m fighting with myself as weather to take my original condition (90% blueing gone) 1897 and convert it to a trench gun or leave it alone! If I come across a spare barrel cheaply(doubt it) I might do a trench conversion to that one. I like the way you do things!
Im in the same boat lol it seems such a tragedy to cut down a nice barrel.
Brother soft jaws for your vice please 🥹🥹🥹
Great restoration Glad you got your soft jaws out Phew
Looks great 👍 👏👏👏
As a gunsmith who has refinished countless guns I like the way you did that it maintains the Integrity of the Piece
Surgical band on the stock repair is top notch use of things laying around.
Dang, how long did you let this one sit outside before making the video?
Reminds me of a trench shotgun, that’s my favourite shotgun
It is... Might be wrong but pretty sure it is..
edit:just checked and yes this IS a trench shotgun
It is. Its a Winchester Model 1897. Even had the heat shield/bayonet lug, though he didn’t do any kind of refinishing of that part, unfortunately. Yeah, my favorite shotgun too.
That is the trench gun. Iconic
@@Hath.0 indeed
You bet it reminds you a trench gun.... It is a Winchester 1897 trench gun ! I'd like to have one !
when i was young (in the 70's) an old timer would hand you one of these to see you tear the hide off your thumb when pumped,, it just takes once to learn how to hold one of these knuckle busters properly,,, nice video!
Honestly, thank you for not putting music
I really liked that you chose to leave off the after market vent hand guard. 👍😎
how do u know its after market check ur history ww 1 ww2 korea viet nam these guns where there being used
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I miss my Winchester 97. first gun I ever bought. paid 200$ for it while I was camping out in rural Oregon, found it at an antique store. was a solid-frame first year gun, long barrel, full taper choke bore. someone had painted the pump grip some sort of grey, but the stock was still pretty. I cleaned and re-stained the pump grip on a picnic table while camping out in the high desert grassland. ended up using it to drive off a mountain lion during my stay there.
Amazing how this old gun has no pitting whatsoever lmao
I still have my Grandfather's 1897 to this day.
Me too! Still shoots, take it out every once in a while, run some lite bird shot thru it.
First off, the Winchester model 1897 is not an easy to tackle when healthy,,,but bless you for breathing life back into this ol shotgun. My dad gave me 2, a 32" full and a 20" cyl. I've had them since i was 12. They are not for everyone.
I love it when somebody restores something that is still good instead of throwing it away
The issue with a majority of these types of videos is they're faked they just buy a gun and bury it for a set amount of time so it looks old and rusty but you can tell this wasn't a faked restoration
Thanks I've been looking for this, now I can replace the real one with it in the Spencer Mansion
The old rusty appearance on this looks rather "fresh" and fabricated !
Yeah fresh rust. Lmao
Most of these videos are using intentionally " rusty" items. It is obvous
The best pump ever made in the world!!! This weapon was rolled in the mud and dust during the war so it was functional again!!!
Great video. When i was a kid in the early 80's, we had a small gun shop in my town, and they had an original 1897 pump wWinchester with a bayonet. They used to let me hold it, and it is still one of my favorite weapons. The late 1800's to the early 1900's was such an interesting time in weapons development.
Are all these weapons artificially rusted for this channel
What do you think?
Absolutely
My Grandfather owned a gunshop and he'd buy peoples used guns even the rusty ones to fix up, so ive handled lots of firearms that are in rough shape IE rusted through a natural process of time and improper storage... Anyway the guns in this guys videos all have the hallmarks of intentional forced patina. You can just tell when something is real, its hard to explain. But the tell is that its a perfectly even layer of active orange rust that is thin and has not pitted or eaten into the metal. This tells me its recent and also deliberate. Whole guns rarely rust at the same rate, like the tip of the barrel or grip or highpoint surfaces will go first.
My assumption is he takes a firearm in probably fair to decent condition, uses vinegar or other chemical agent to strip the bluing to bare metal, then dunks the whole gun in salt water and leaves it outside under the sun for a week. Winchester riot 1897s (in the description he says its a regular model that he added the shield to so its not a real valuable trenchgun) average in the USA around $500-900 depending on condition. IDK where he is located. But you may ask this is wasteful right? But think about it; he got 4.5 MILLION views in less than 3 months on this video alone. He has nearly 1 million subscribers. He has made, by conservative estimates, $45,000 from google ad revenue off this video alone. But probably several times that much. Not counting his other videos, donations, sponsorships, etc. With minimal filming/editing work and a $500 dollar upfront investment and a few hours of his time. This guy is a fucking genius. A deceitful genius, but genius none the less.
I have been saying that for a long time it looks like they were all put into a shake and bake bag
Man those rusty screws sure did come out easy
Beautiful restoration. I love my 1897 shotgun. Got it for like 250 dollars in 2018.
Less than a minute into this video and i had to go the the safe, get my 1897 and show her how she will never be treated like this.....shes a queen and deserves the best care and maintenance....by the way, my stock has a smaller chip in the exact same spot. Unfortunately, I dont have the chip.
Glad to see you got your channel back. Thank you for this amazing work. 🇧🇷
That steel wool did a lot more than I thought it would
Probs cos it's a fake resto job. The gun isn't from that period, and the rust is due to being soaked in salt water for a week.
Beautiful work. Those were carried by many Marines in World War One, the Philippines, and Nicaragua. In WW2, Marines on point carried this weapon or a Thompson Machine gun. Even in The Dominican republic, and Vietnam, The Marines carried these for a time. The Germans in WW1 actually had the gall to complain ( they were the first to use mustard and phosgene gas in artillery shells!) About the shotgun, as you could clear a trench very quickly.
I just found an antique, muzzle loading, pistol, in remarkable shape. Only mild rust on the barrel seems to be the only issue with it. I found it in an old barn where nobody has lived on the property since I have lived in my house, 2003. Since it was inside a beat up feed container, it did not get wet. I look forward to trying it out.
I hope you clean and reinstall the bayonet mount and heat shield. They are original military issue and are quite rare and valuable.
That’s what I thought.
During the restoration process i write about bayonet lug "this is not an original part of riffle" is added by a gunsmith in the past for fraud the original owner. This is definely a riot gun not a trench gun.
At least it wasn't a real trench gun. Trench guns were not takedown models, they had fixed barrels...
I had one just like this. I inherited it from my grandpa. It looked brand new. He took great care of his firearms.
Would have nice to see the kind of fluids used for the various stages. Good job on making it serviceable again. Looks and functions great now.
I have a a 1897. It was my grandfather’s. It’s in pretty good shape. Don’t know that I would want to run modern shells through it however.
1897s were made well into the 1950s. I have shot hundreds of round thru mine. They were well made guns. early 16 gauge had a short chamber tho. 4those you would not shoot modern shells thru.
dubble 0 buck works great in them
Great job, Congratulations!!!
Thank you for preserving this gun's legacy and patina. I once had the privilege of selling one of these in perfect condition from the man it was issued to in WWI. I'll never forget that man , or that gun.
Excellent video. Anti-freeze works very well. It does not lose its shape after drying. Axe handles - it'll tighten those up with the same effect also.
Best!
To be honest I'm really not that into guns but I could watch this channel all day. Hell I'm putting off a list of several things I need to get done just to watch this one!
Me too.
My question is did someone pay him to fix this gun up? Or does he fix them up and sell them? Or is this just a hobby and he keeps the guns? Or... all three?
@@brianshaker1885 my guess is all three.
At 37 seconds you can read Winchester on barrel as he disassembles it. For his $$$ I hope it is real. Nice Job!
my favorite shotgun.
Wow! A real conservation resto!
This is the best shotgun for the military at the time and I like it
you HAVE to put the heat sheild and bayo lug back on, thats the coolest part about this gun!! this is one on my short list of needed guns that ill probably never get.
I write in the subtitles during the restoration. The heatshield cover and bayonet lug, is added for fraud the last owner, this gun's was sell for trenchgun, but this is a riot gun, and riot gun dont have any heatshield.
@@restaurato6629 i keep subtitles turned off, its too distracting for my brain to not read them, then i miss the video.
and theres a difference between a replica and a fraud, you can still have the trench gum look as long as you dont try to sell it at an inflated price by calling it something other than what it is. 👍👍
Needed to polish the moving parts contact surfaces. When cycling it, sounded like full of sand.
Also it needs Gunslick on all moving parts before assembly, he put it all together dry!
Excelente trabajo de restauración de esa vieja escopeta Winchester mod 1897..!! Llegó muy maltratada y muy oxidada, y quedo muy bien, se llevo mucho trabajo y tiempo, si la hubiera pavonado hubiera quedado preciosa..!! Muy buena explicación del desarme paso a paso..!! Muy buen documental..!! Excelente video..!
The restoration is impressive. What's more impressive is how he puts it back together!
I understand not doing to much in the sense of keeping the gun as original as possible. But did you put oil or anything on the barrel and mechanism to protect it?
We can hope.
Nicely done! I liked the shroud on there, had that Trench Gun aesthetic, but looks good.
I would love to see the expression on the face of the actual maker of this piece as he watches and wonders how it got into this state and then to see it restored. Amazing. Thanks for the video.
Как фанат игры Рдр2, не мог пройти мимо, лайк не глядя, от души от сердца успехов!
Glass bead blasting cabinet. Buy one!!! Grinding bench with buffer and wire brush attachments. Buy that also.
Bro your giving realy bad suggestions both those tool leave a bad finish and this is valued more when it reapaired like this not completely restored
@@FrFr224 have you ever used a bead blasting cabinet. We use them on engine internals.....
Because of the bayonet stud on the barrel it looks more like the shotguns the US military purchased for World War I in 1917....sometimes referred to as a "Trench Gun" because these were great in the treches.
You restored it *AND* fired it.
Respect++
I want to go on like this to restore so bad I am going to do a ton of magnet fishing this year hopefully I find one. Definitely on my bucket list.
Hello i have an advice for you, if you take two sheet of copper on you'r vice you can hold every pieces of metal without risk of scratch and twist you'r pieces.
I have rubber clamps... you can see the alluminum support
Eu gostaria sim de ver tanto a restauração das armas como a fabricação de novas peças das peças da mesma, Obrigado pelo ótimo vídeo.
A piece of history well worth the effort and cost to bring back to life.
Finally a real gun restoration video, also with one of my favorite shotguns
It would be nice to know what liquids your useing when your soaking things and rubbing them on the pieces.
German soldiers of WW1: "Finally another one of those horrible weapons are off the battlefield!"
Restaura To: "hold up"
If I could have any hobby I would do this. Seems so satisfying! I wouldn’t even know where to start
Great restoration of a classic firearm. I've done some restoration, mostly stock work. I think using urethane glue is overkill. With a cracked stock (not completely broken off) I spread the crack a little and apply Elmer's wood glue, then blow it into the crack. I worked in surgery, and that's the longest piece of Penrose drain you used to secure the separate piece. I use Esmarch bandages for the same purpose. The key to preventing it from splitting again is to slightly adjust the bedding.
Honest effort...
hardly!!!!! just a waste of everyone's time!!!!!!!!!
I really enjoyed this
Seeing one of my favorite shotguns getting fixed is wonderful to my eyes
You did an excellent job at restoring that! The original condition that you got it in at that point it would have been just wall art but restoring it to complete working order that's amazing! Most other people would have not have done that most would have tossed it or as I said previously, wall art.
Gostei muito desse trabalho , dessa restauração, principalmente porque a arma tá funcional !
Guns shoot
Ha ha ha
It isn't finished yet. A trench broom needs it's bayonet lug and heat shield. It's only about 80% finished. When's part 2?????
It's nowhere. The heat shield was only added to this riot gun to raise the price.
your a true gunsmith great job from Rhode island
That's one of my favorite shotguns! Great job!
Old ruined Winchester turned into a restored ruined Winchester
no way yall ruined a trench gun for this video
It's a takedown civilian model. Trench guns only came with fixed barrels.
Oh boy, this was super calming, thank you
Прошу прошения были ,Помповое ружье фирмы "Винчестер" модели 1897 года был создан оружейным гением Джоном Моузесом Браунингом. Своё первое гладкоствольное ружье с перезарядкой движением цевья назад-вперёд Браунинг выпустил ещё в 1893-м году на базе собственного же патента от 1886-го года. Однако, первоначальная модель, как это часто бывает, страдала многими "детскими болезнями" и популярности себе не снискала. Тогда Браунинг существенно дорабатывает свою модель, и в 1897-м компания "Винчестер" выпускает её под наименованием Winchester M1897. Известны также другие названия этого ружья и его модификаций - model 97, M97, Trench gun, "Траншейная метла", Riot gun.
Изначально оружие создавалось как охотничий дробовик под патроны 16-го и 12-го калибра. В дальнейшем же появились военные и полицейские модификации, отличающиеся в основном длиной ствола, отделкой и дополнительными опциями.
Внешне ружьё выглядит как классический "помповик" с подствольным трубчатым магазином. Собственно, с этой модели помповые дробовики и начали своё восхождение к славе, став неким фетишем и классикой для жителей Северной Америки, а потом, после успешного применения в Первой Мировой Войне и благодаря Голливуду, и для остального мира.
I occasionally receive guns that are badly rusted because they were left in a damp case or picked out of a lake. In every case they had deep pitting. Your gun looks like it has very light pitting. Looks like it was left in the rain for a few days and has lots of surface rust. Very seldom do I see a uniform coating of rust. Still fun to watch.
Yes most of these videos restoration pieces man-made to look super old
my all time favorite firearm
What an absolute treasure!!! Thanks for sharing!!
when you fake rust these guns dont you worry you will damage the gun? orange rust = new rust btw
They have no respect for historical artifacts, only views
Looks like it aas dipped or sprayed with ferric chloride allowed to rust. Boiling it was a good idea but should have carded the oxide for better finish
This kind of rush is pretty common if steel items are stored in a damp but not actually wet place and forgotten about for 80 years. Given this is, or was, a WW1 US army shotgun.
That said this guy stripped the military bayonet lugs off the gun and discarded them. So its has basically no collector value, and is just a rusty old shotgun that will eventually explode in your hands because lord only knows how much metal is gone from the firing chamber, leaving it not upto the task of properly containing a fully loaded shell. I don't know if that is required for EU law purposes or not, but there it is.
@nordoceltic7225 correct however get the rust that uniform apply a solution of ferric chloride or etching solution place it in a steam cabinet and wallah rust Boi it ro convert it card it with steel wool and reapply the solution and repeat the Finnish will be unrivaled by and hot blue or chemical blue just an FYI.
All their weapons got same appearance .... they are made to be rusty !!
@666sdkfz yeah that is correct
My dad has one of these, been passed through our family. They're a shit ton of fun to shoot
Jesus this poor thing looks like it was neglected for years, that's not something you can fake, thank you for restoring it to its somewhat former glory