Would I supercharge my truck again? The good and bad...
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- The Mizer Brothers talk you through the reasons to supercharge and the problems with supercharging their trucks. Sam's 2021 F150 has the 3.8 liter Whipple Supercharger at 775 horsepower and Brad's 2018 F150 has the 2.65 liter VMP Odin Supercharger at 1,100 horsepower.
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Would I supercharge my truck again?
Lmao “you’re cooler, your trucks cooler, and everybody knows how cool you are” god damn that got me
Thanks for the unexpected shout-out! We appreciate y’all! Great video! Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks Big Guy!
Mitchell if you say My reply to them. I'll probably be meeting you this spring. Looking forward to what you can do for me. I'm 45 minutes south of Auto vlog . He highly recommend you. till then
What year is prob best to supercharge the f150?
2020
It’s makes me rethink putting a whipple on mine. Was almost ready to pull the trigger and then I watched this video.
My Dad got his 2023 FP700 yesterday from his Dealer.
Omg it's so fast & extremely loud as hell!
Ford installed with a 8yr 100k mile ext. warranty at any Dealership.
Atlas Blue, Lowered, 22" Nito's, Magna Flow Exhaust, Rear Diff Lock, Single Cab F-150.
I could hear him miles down the highway after he left.
If you want to have fun, grab 1
Got my 2021 F-150 Whippled, no problems 🤞. Whipple customer service actually sucks. I think they only took care of you guys cause you guys have a good following on TH-cam but to the average Joe like myself. I had a hard time just getting someone to talk or return my phone calls. You are right on everything else like mileage. You can't stay off that pedal, it's my Kryptonite.
That don’t sound good . Got a 21 whippled too with warranty
I haven't had any problems with mine but even for them to check you data logs everything is done by email and every email takes any where from 1-3 days. For a response I guess the days of talking to people on the phone are long gone. What time are you running in your truck?
This video reminded me of all the problems I had with my Shelby Truck (replacing both engine and transmission). I certainly agree with your assessment that if you aren't pushing your supercharged truck to its limits it can actually be reliable. After I put my new engine in and had Palm Beach Dyno do a conservative tune I got 30k trouble free miles out of the truck before selling it. Yeah, I'm gunna blame that conservative tune for why The Wolf kicked my truck's butt in our race a couple years back. lol Love the content, brothers! Keep it up! TGBTG!
The only TH-cam channel without trolls trying to Instagram lol, love your interaction with fans without the bull;)
We are just some good old boys with cameras…
I highly recommend supercharging your 5.0 just don't go to far with it if you want it to last 150k or more. I have about 70000 miles on my f150 with not a single problem except the intercooler pump started making some noise. So I just ordered a brushless pump. Pretty easy install. Fuel mileage actually went up in town but dropped on the highway.
same thing happened with my 2011 5.0, get over 23 mpg at 65 mph.
When you say “don’t go too far with it” do you mean literally don’t take long trips or don’t push it too hard and stretch every bit of power you can out of it? 😂
@sebastiandelmaro Don't keep adding parts until it's so complicated and makes so much power it's not fun to daily drive anymore. It kind of goes hand in hand. Make it fast but don't go overboard if that makes any sense. Trying to get that last 100 horsepower out of a vehicle costs the most amount of money and causes the most heartache as well.
@@BackroadDriver I would agree to that on just about any car though, at that point you’re better off buying something that already has that much power or something made specifically for the track. I’m just looking to have some good power to have fun on the way home from work at night but not sure if it’s worth supercharging if I don’t have 4x4
@@sebastiandelmaro just don't boost it to much if you want it to last a long time. I have the roush on mine and have pulled a 6x10 inclosed with 3 dirtbikes all over new mexico, colorado and Utah several times without a problem. The roush and whipple are good kits. You can drive across the country and not worry about anything.
So much truth in this video. The common problems and the addiction for more power.
It will become a neverending project and money pit. It will become your hobby and bring more joy to your life. And yes, everyone (99% will be other guys) who knows of your modified supercharged truck will admire you and your truck.
Your wife may likely grow jealous of your truck and the time consumed due to your garage endeavours. She may even compare herself to it. Cottle and reassurance that she is #1, then the dog, then the truck...
😂LOL 👌👍🍺
Hilarious!!! Only second video of yours that i have seen. Just subscribed btw! First video was comparing your 2018 to the Roush. Rousk Killer!!! You went over what the cost of everything was. At the end the difference was $27,000. You said something to the affect " i dont see how i could even spend anothe $27,000 on this truck."
Good content!!
I contacted a dealer in Nashville this past Jan and got in queue for ‘21 Shelby SS Sport F150. As with everything the 21’s were delayed, and ended up getting my truck in early June. It’s a std cab 4WD Whipple charged 5.0. 1500 mile break in, where by I changed the oil, and again at 3k. I tow my 6k lb car hauler, and it sees routine daily service. I drive it conservatively as I fill my right foot needs with “sporty” cars. At 70 mph unloaded it will return 21 MPG, and 18.5 at 75 MPH. Daily I am at 15.6 mixed. I had an ‘04 Lightning with cams, ported Eaton, Pullied and full Bassini exhaust that was 10 MPG mixed which is less than when I tow with my ‘21! The 10 speed, and 5.0 top end charge is impressive if you have enough road. Most of the time, like I said it serves as a bad-ass utility vehicle. I intend to keep it a long time. Cheers guys on keeping the faith!
How much was your 21 f150 shelby?
@@furiouslobo $98k
I love the content and transparency you dudes put out. My dream truck is a Ford 150 5.0 Tremor! That truck comes out for the 2023 year. I would love to at least tune it, but I would drive the piss out of it if it had a Whipple!
That’s the new V8 Raptor that you can Whipple!
Michael, I agree 100%. The Tremor package is about perfect, if you want an aggressive look, without spending more money to modify the tires & suspension.
Best clip ever 11:08 - 11:20 🔥🔥🔥
My "22 is going to the dyne Friday and to say I'm exited for Monday delivery is an understatement. It had 941 miles on it and got the 3.0 Stage 2, Stainless Works Long Tubes, Stainless Works mufflers, Cats and a custom lightning style exit since when I ordered my truck there was no pictures and I started seeing the black appearance package came with the cut rear bumper so we didn't order the lightning style exhaust. Well the truck shows up and with max tow you don't get the cut bumper… The builder took it to a show here last weekend without the headers and exhaust and he said the 40 roll even at 3/4 throttle was insane. This from a guy that drives a highly modified Procharged Silverado 6.2. I'm slowly turning our county into Ford guys 🤣 Having that Whipple warranty is honestly what sealed the deal for me after coming out of lifted deleted diesels. Everyone knows what a nightmare that is now...
What did it do if you ever did it?
Lol! I have a TRX! Love that clip at the end!😄 just like with the hellcats which I’ve also owned, there’s a lot of hoopla but once you get any experience with them you realize there are many shortcomings. Tuning could certainly be improved.🤔
came here for inspiration on my own videos, stayed because the video was awesome.
Hahaha I hear ya. Started with swapping out the factory 400 in my 79 to a 302 then a stroker 351 then another snd then a Dart 430 twin turbo running high 8's hahaha. Awesome
Great video guys!!!!🤙🏼🏆
You pass the test and just earned a new subscriber 😎
Keep us informed with these great videos🤜🏼🤛🏼
Cheers beers boys! Trucks are looking good
That whip antenna is like OH YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH
Very interesting.🤔 Thx for the information and perspective!
Excellent video brother thank you
Thank you guys for your high quality content
Just came across you guys👍 looking forward to following along
Nice vid. I love my SC. I get stopped in parking lots all the time asking about it. I have seen 3 Roush F150s around here and 2 of them are not an SC. The third I only saw once. I don’t know if it was an SC.
Everyone asks me if it is a Raptor, kind of funny. What I would really like to have is the Godzilla 7.3 SC at 1300 HP in this truck. Now that would be a blast.
Keep up the great content.
I like how you didn't admit that you just took the cats off... Very clever
I whipple supercharged 2017 f150 and love it.
I plan on purchasing a 2017 f150 but not sure about the supercharger yet. Is you f150 still reliable a year after your comment?
@lukejames6428 yes sirr. I now have 90k miles. I installed at 35k. Not one issue. Knock on wood. But I don't thrash everyday. Just on occasion. Its nice to have the power on tap. I also lowered the truck and bought street tires. Way stickier and less mass than the nitto ridge grapplers I had.
First time watching your video. Pretty cool. I just got my 2023 f150 reg cab super charged back from the shop with only 400 miles on it. It's all good now. Got the ford performance whipple charger. Whipple had timed the rotors wrong and was making crazy rattle noises but like you said whipples customer service is #1. They made it right 100%. All the reasons you said were spot on the pros and cons. Very cool. My only complaint is throttle delay . Is there a way to fix the throttle response time? TIA
You could do a pedal commander type of device and keep your warranty or get a custom tune and void your warranty.
@BackroadDriver pedal commander it is lol. Thank you.
You ansered alot of questions with me looking at turbos instead of superchargers. Cheaper option i quess with turbos but have build your engine to handle these up grades.
@6:14 Holy hell look how low that thing is! Definitely made for short people🫤 I’m 6’5” I don’t think I can stoop that low to get in it☹️
my question is would you but a whipple or other brand supercharger
out of curiosity, did you consider a centri vs Whipple? Lower IATs, less hassle, better street manners and boost comes on with alittle more foot?
Hello Sam, I learn a lot of info from you and your brothers videos … I got a 2017 f-150 ( roush supercharge ). I would like to get a lift 6 inch lift on 22/37 tires. I want a change of look, but would I have to get a tune and all etc..to match the lift and supercharge performance wise …. Please advise when you get a chance .Thanks guys have a nice day .
HEY is part of the deal ! When you boost anything you cross over the line in to RACE car territory! Specially applying boost to a truck designed for light duty work meant for daily work and commuter and not RACE ! Lol
Hey guys! I love the vids I’ve watched pretty much all the f150 ones haha. I have one on order and it’s supposed to be here the middle of September and I’m planning on getting a whipple for it, I was just wondering if there’s any supporting mods you guys recommend to make it more reliable or if just getting it professionally installed with the whipple tune is fine? Thanks! Keep up the great videos.
I would call TC Customs and get the Whipple Stage 2 just like it comes. You could add a catback exhaust from Corsa, the Corsa Sport would be perfect. No big reliability issues to worry about with the Whipple tune and this setup.
I love the channel !
Thanks for watching!
What exhaust setup you boys running on the white truck?.. sounds badass
I subscribed I just bought a 2021 f 150 platinum with the 5.0
Have you had any issues out of the new motor and whipple? Been thinking of buying a new truck and letting TC customs install the whipple on it. Is it worth the cost? Have you had any issues since the new motor? I like the fact that they covered your motor and the warranty it comes with. Looking at a 22-23 xlt sport daily driver although I won’t drive daily I put around 6-12k miles a year roughly put 100k on my mustang that was 18 years old when I decided to give it away so I don’t drive a lot but could start
Love your videos, as to can’t tune it have y’all been able to play with a Livernois tune?
I have a 2008 F150 with 230k+ miles. I would like to supe it up to go fast. Not to race, but just to move faster when I want to feel young. I’m 64 yrs this month, but still love to go fast. What would you recommend that would be comparable to my truck or what do you think about the cold air intake? Thanks, loved your vid.
Thank you for the video. It answers a lot of questions that I had. I'm a truck dump truck driver how beings his truck home every night. I have a 2016 f150 cyote with 32000 miles on it. In2023 the house and truck will both be payed off. Been thinking of super charging it. This video was just what I needed. Obviously gass is not a concern to me. Thank you.
You forgot a reason to not supercharge.........although i have a 2019 f150 5.0l and love it........for free, i can watch Sam and Brad beef tbeirs up! If i want to look cool i just need some BD merch! thx for sharing
You da man!
Thats huge with Whipple.
Now we need to see this video but twin turbo
Would it be worth it to supercharge a 4x2 f150? I’m not looking to drag race all day it’s my daily work truck but just like to have the power. Instead of spending thousands to go FBO and there isn’t even a tune for the 2024 yet, I think it would be best to just spend a couple thousand more for the whipple and some better flowing exhaust and a good tire
You'll have fun with a 4x2 truck and a supercharger. It will never be as fast or as safe in bad weather though. With a 305/55/20 Recon grappler I can blow the tires off at 90 mph on the interstate if I stay in 4x2. That's with an 85 tune and fuel system etc but you'll still have the potential for those issues at lower speeds with the Whipple tune. I've also ran a set of 305/50/20 Toyo proxes and nitto nv420's. There's almost no difference between the larger all-terrain tires. You'd need a drag pack which isn't practical for a daily driver if you're wanting to actually have decent traction and a drag pack sucks in the rain.
I often switch into 4A when it rains since I have a Lariat. In 2wd you'll need to be extra careful on slick roads and that sort of thing. As I've said you can have fun with the 2wd whippled trucks but there are lots of limitations. I would recommend joining some of the Facebook groups and that sort of thing so you get a better idea of what you're getting yourself into.
GREAT
I'm sure the value of exposure and revenue was worth the pain. Yet, for us non-tubers not worth the compromise
What spark plugs do you recommend running with the 3.0 whipple on a 2021 f150 5.0?
Do you guys think that Ford Performance will put out either a Gen 5 stage 2 or a Gen 6 Whipple for the F-150? I want to Whipple my F-150 but don’t want to get the current Ford Performance one since there are more powerful ones out now.
I wonder if Whipple would have been so nice if you didn’t have a TH-cam channel
Nah, they’ll screw you either way if they feel like it. Our TH-cam has 300k subs and didn’t make a difference either time
I have a 2008 F150 5.4 Lariat, would you recommend a wipple supercharger or a turbocharger? Basically my truck is a highway runner and would like to increase my speed ability. “No racing” just would like to go faster….
Seeing this in 2025. Thinking about modding my 2016 King Ranch instead of buying a new truck. Mine only has 60K miles. The 5.0 and 6 speed is comfortable but not exciting. A super charger and upgraded coil overs might be the ticket. I would be worried about reliability so I may look at a less aggressive power boost.
Whipple say you can install the stage 2 on full stock 100% f150 and my installer tell me install Y pipe and delete cats to avoid back pressure which one i will listen to hem 🤣 ?
If it is a 2021 you will have codes and it will dump more fuel than you need thru the engine.
Yup, so game the ECU and throw a larger throttle body and cold air intake on that bad boy hahaha. Maybe make a couple dyno
Runs with a air/fuel first to see where the AFR’s end up lol.
Got a crazy question, is it possible to get the 5.0 and what kind of transmission on a 93' F150 with a 4.9l straight six and E40D transmission? No super charged just want some power behind it. The truck is mint and I mean mint.
30-40k is what it would take…
@@BackroadDriver ouch! but I'm thinking 🤔
Hey Sam, what manufacture of cats did you have to go with to clear all your codes
GESI
my question is do I have to use high octant gas?
You can tune them now with HP tuners
the story about Whipple made me choose them
My whipple is almost here for my 2017 f150, I did stage 2. I live in an area with with small towns I can only get 92 octane. How do you guys think that'll fair? P.s. I have been a subscriber since I found your channel, you guys are awsome
You'll be fine with 92. Just remember that you need to be a little more careful if you start tinkering. Whipple designs their kits to run on 91 if need be. If you ever go with an aftermarket tuner they will tune to the fuel that you have in your area.
@@BackroadDriver awsome we are going to send it over to tune it to the fuel and I'm scared off the cats so we are thinking a delete with two resonators. I don't want it to loud I just want it to surprise if you know what I mean lol
I know I’m late to the party. But how’s your trans holding up? Still stock?
Hey Sam. You mentioned not pulling a camper with a smaller pulley. What's the reason ? Also I have a 2020 F150 with the Roush Supercharger and was considering doing the upgrade to get the extra 100hp, but if it will mess with my cats. I guess for now that's off the table, because it involves a pulley change and bigger throttle body.
I'm being careful because I don't have an aftermarket tune with the smaller pulley. At some point even with an aftermarket tune that is geared towards performance you probably don't want to tow. You can go ahead and do your mods but work with your tuner to get a proper tune that is safe for towing. The engine works harder when towing and you need to take that into consideration.
Appreciate your reply Sam. Mine didn't come with a tuner for the Roush Supercharger. It's my understanding that Roush doesn't have tuners for the owners. You have to take it back to the dealer. Do you recommend a good tuner for it? Mitchell's crew down at Town and Country did my build also. Also thanks for all of yalls time making these great and honest videos. We need more from you and Brad... Keep up the good work and honesty guys...... We need more guys like yall being honest making these videos.
If you're running the Roush tune that came with the truck you should be just fine to tow or anything else. It is made to be safe and good for all around truck use. If you're looking for a good company to tune your truck I would look at Oz tuning. Remember only trucks through 2020 can be tuned. If you've got a 21+ there's nothing you can do for a while.
Hell ya. Is only answer
Did they pay the labor as well or parts only?
With the stage 2 whipple kit, is there anything else I should upgrade on my 22 F150? Will all the stock components be ok to run it?
Did you get the answer?
@@m.romaithi6217 no,
I’m still waiting on a response 😅🤣
What gloves are you using at the beginning of the video when you're talking through the history on the motors?
Milwaukee. An older pair without the Velcro.
Anymore trouble out of the truck? I’m considering supercharging my 22 daily driver.
So, you say you have to use 93 octane. Would 100% non-ethanol, pure gas be better? Not sure if you have it up there, but here in central Alabama we have it. More hp and better mileage over 87, 89, even 93 octane on a OEM engine with 100% over any ethanol. Just wonder if you guys have tried, or can get and see if that does better over the 93. Here 93 and 87/100% is the same price, but the 100% on my 5.3 uses about 15% less gas and around 4 to 6mpg better on a daily driver. Just a question I wondered. Anyway, sharing your site with all the folks on my social media accounts. Need to get you guys to 100k subs at the very least. Gotta earn more money for MORE POWER (Tim the tool man is my hero...LOL) Take care
I have a 2022 ford f-150 lariat. 3.5 EcoBoost. What would I do to upgrade my truck. I would like a little more horsepower but also good gas mileage. I would appreciate your advice
Tune makes huge gains on the 3.5. I would time my 23 but for some reason they decided to come out with a new ecu that year
Jesus, I thought getting the Whipple was going to be a good thing for my truck until I watch this video
What year is the best to supercharge the f150 2018?
What about livernoismotorsports tunes for 21+ and what about E85 ?
I would say I do t trust their tune yet. A tune can make a truck perfect or it can blow it up. I worry about how much testing they have done and the transparency about how they tune makes it a gamble.
@@BackroadDriver yeah I can see that
So far on all I’ve experienced with there NA tune and from others seems like they are doing well so far
E85 is gone for 2024’s
Can the stock drive train handle it long term? Like can you launch it in 4auto? Ive seen boosted ram 5.7 and they can't seem to handle it in 4wd.
It sure can. I launch in 4H not 4A.
I just bought brand new 2023 f150 v8 and the new whippel super charger it is being installed they say I will go from 400 horse to 705 horse can’t wsit
How much did it cost
So am I understanding correctly?.....the GESI cats wont have a CEL with factory or the Whipple tune?
Yep. No cell with the Gen 2 GESI cats. About $770 each.
@@BackroadDriver good to know. Kinda pointless to still have to defeat the cat codes or live with a CEL when using standard "high flow" cats. Thanks for the info. Love the builds. We built a couple of 880-920whp (I wouldnt push my personal stock engine vehicle that hard) F150s using the Gen5 Whipples. They are so much fun.
Are all of the 2021+ kits the 3.8L Whipple now? Or did y'all start with the 3.0L, then upgrade to the 3.8L?
All 3.0. Roush is a different size.
Definitely a 3.0
Did you guys dragy before and after on the header swap? Debating on doing it to Mine.
We didn't. I had a new motor between replacing the headers. Can't really compare the two.
@@BackroadDriver I really don’t want it to be so loud lol 😂 and want to wait till Lund or someone can tune it for e85
I have one of the loudest exhausts with the Corsa extreme that you can put on a truck. There's plenty of room to add to regular free flowing mufflers and the truck can be pretty quiet if you go that direction. You're right tuning is a big deal but it just isn't there yet.
Stock whipple tune, mild driving, 14,000 miles driver side cat went bad 😂
guys Roush or Whipple for the F150 V8 2019 10 gears ?
Whipple or VMP Odin like Brad has on his 2018 F150, The Wolf
Should have got a 3.5 tuned it and swapped out the turbos
Did Whipple refund you the cost of your engine since you got a defective product that destroyed your engine? Oh Nvm good on Whipple for standing by their product and buying you a replacement engine. Awesome company
Gonna be a hard pass on the super charger guys, but I’ve really enjoyed y’all’s videos though.
Can you send the link to the cats you bought as I'm experiencing the same problem.
Gen 2 85230
www.gsportbygesi.com/g-sport-emissions-systems-products
Do you have the whistle that sounds like an intake leak with the Whipple that some folks complain about?
I might but you can't hear over my exhaust. It's a non-issue for me.
What about pro charger?
What's up with the truck? No videos lately. Trackhawk is sweet but I have a Whippled 22 f150 because of it.
Should I put a super charger on my 13 Coyote that already has 130,000 miles on it? The truck has been babied (pavement princess) since day 1. and its RWD.
Yes, watch it drive better than before 😂
Is that bronco for sale?
What tire size do yall have on that truck?
305/55/20
you have the 3.8 blower ?
Brad screwed it up. 3.0
My supercharged f150 crew cab makes 11.5 mpg!!! In hwy makes 15.1mpg
I would like to add power to 2016 F150 but it has 80k on it. I would prefer a 1986 f150 built like a trophy truck.
Building older stuff is awesome! We are having a blast seeing the 96 Bronco come back to life.
Start with gt350 ported mani pmas cai and good tune like oz or all moter labs. With 3.73 or 4.10 is all you need. Otherwise drop 10k in to a supercharger kit with opg
With exhaust and headers 100hp over stock is pretty good
Question guys!!
Is it a bad idea to supercharge my 2016 King Ranch 5.0 with 75,000 gentle, always serviced, miles on it?
I mean, would a Whipple be too much for the older Coyote?
Never too late. I've already got 25k on my 21 F-150. We are supercharging a GT350 with a lot of miles on it as we speak. Most vehicles that get performance upgrades end up being higher mileage vehicles anyway. If you plan on having fun with it and not abusing it all the time you should be good to go. At your mileage if you were going to track it hard and go as hard as you can I would say no... Unless you put some money back to work on it in the future. You were going to have to do that anyway. Most of these trucks are good close to 200k now
We subscriber and thanks for the content
Running too lean destroys Cats 🙃
hey if anyone could answer my question, if i supercharge my 2021 will whipple cover my engine replacement if it is somehow got blown due to a bad supercharger like the problem that BD ran into?
Whipple sells an optional warranty. Info is on their website.
@@adamdancer8907 thats the 36k mile/3 year?
Do yall use e85 fuel??
Not in Sam’s truck but we do in Brad’s grey truck.
How come auto-log guy lost to a TRX with his supercharged f-150?
Streetspeed is a heck of a driver with a ton of street racing experience.
If you’re boosted at all, run at least 93. 😅
You do know that E85 is not regular gasoline right? It's 85% alcohol. It has an octane rating between 100 and 105.