1997 Scott 696 - Retro MTB 1x10 Conversion - Mountain Bike Rebuild
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This week I’m building a Scott 696 and converting it to a 1x10 setup. Originally the bike would have come with 3x8 gearing but as a bit of a tester and to modernise the bike I want to do the conversion. Most modern mountain bikes now come with the 1x setup with either 10,11 or 12 speed on the rear and some cassettes can even go up to 50 teeth. I’ve chosen to go a bit smaller and went for an 11-40 tooth cassette.
After checking all the cassette, derailleur and shifter were compatible, this is what I’ve come up with. I think I could have gone down to a 110mm or 107mm to bring the chain line in a bit more but it seems to be working fine as it is. I also really want to change the XT V brake as it’s not lining up the pads properly. Despite those 2 things it’s a nice bike to ride. Great for climbing, not so much for top speed! - บันเทิง
Probably the cleanest Scott I've seen In my life !!
Love all of your retro MTB builds!
Thanks!
Ive done that too, my old 1990’s Marin bike started life with a 3 x 7 drive. Last week I converted to 2 x 11 drive train with a 11 - 40 Cassette. Ditched the old forks for rockshox and disc brake. Still have rim brakes rear. Also gone tubeless tyres. All I’ve knocked 2kg off weight of bike.
You loose some top end speed with 2 x 11 but I hardly ever used the big front ring so no loss really.
Great vid nice see a bike build.
Great video mate. I’ve got my 1992 Kona Hei Hei titanium with rigid Project 2 forks and velocity quill stem set up 1X9 with full XTR 950 drivetrain and hubs. Lovely, fast ride with 1.95 touring tires and 42t narrow-wide up front wth 11-32 in back. I’m using a 9 speed dura ace bar shifter converted to thumbie.
Man, so nice to see this. when I was like 6-7 years old, I saw for the first time a Scott Bike and was this same frame. I was in Love. And up to today I'm a huge scott mtb fan. Already had 3 scales. My next one i alreday decide to paint in this Blue with yellow Scott logo.
Enjoy the ride.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice looking bike, good to up cycle!
I'm currently building a Specialized Stumpy for the missus, xt group set, all original apart from the saddle for her comfort!!!
Keep up the good work.
love the retro stuff wish i still had my scott super evolution
same but now I am older 90s is retro too, though i used to be into the 70's and 80's Raleigh racers. love old bikes
Очень приятно видеть на улице,такие обновлённые велосипеды из бабушкиного чулана.
love the 80s synth stuff at the end. cleanest that bike will ever be
I had to include it!
'80s music for a '90s bike? Shame on you! :-P Seriously though, if you're into that retro synth kinda stuff, check out Dynatron
Love how the cat had to inspect your work 🤣🤣😂
She's normally hanging out with me when I'm in the garage. Usually just curled up watching but sometimes comes to inspect.
@@MonkeyShred And her Monkey didn't obey *immediately*!! Shocking! More training needed! :-))))
Just caught this. Excellent vid. Did a very similar conversion about a year ago using a crappy old Raleigh Spirit Nexave a mate gave me. Used many of the same components as you. Spooky! I agree about the Charge Spoon. Very comfy. Used a Stronglight ST55 40t (it's cheap and it works - with a clutch mech) and a Sun Race 11/40 cassette. That combo is just about perfect for the Cornish lanes. Shod it with the Schwalbe City Jets you're not so keen on (cheap and I like 'em). 28lbs (oh yeah!) of fun, fun, fun! Keep on pumping them out, man.
By the way, a 40 tooth chainwheel almost touches my driveside chainstay with a central chainline - so watch out all you converters.
I did a conversion on my Trek DS4. It’s also 1x10. I went with a 38T and it is just about perfect.
Really good video, with lots of information you've inspired me ill have to have a go.
Good to hear!
I've got a 1996 Scott Vertigo LSD (Factory Ride). Planning on doing this kind of build with an early 90's Specialized Stumpjumper or CroMo equivalent.
Nice informative video, will be very helpful for me when I do a similar build, thanks mate 👍🏼
You’re welcome!
looks awesome! i love 1 by.
Like the look of this bike Monkeyshred- it's only let down by those plastic peddles- please promise you'll replace them!!
They're being replaced with a set of early platform / SPD pedals :)
Clutch is to reduce chain slap & floppy chain (less noise) but also to help chain retention on 1xchainrings. Personally could never get those mech to work superslick in a 1xconversion but worked ok.
Sunrace cassette - (Sunrace MXC if correct) comes in 11-42 or 11-46 , use to run a 1x10 conversion and I used the 11-42. Race mountian bike XC so now on SRAM NX Eagle 12-speed. Love my retro's too as raced MTB XC/ridden MTB's since 1990 and some 94&96 Kona Kileaua with cantilever's and original XT 8-speed. I raced those Scott comp racing frames in 97/98 bit was the alloy version of what you have.
very cool build. I'm inspired to do something similar now with my 1997 Giant ATX 840.
Give it a go. It's honestly such a nice bike to commute on. It tops out quick but hills are a breeze and cruising is relaxed.
for like 99% of riding I think big gears are over rated. I've actually been riding a 30 X 11/32 one by on my road bike this year. Yeah it's limited, but it's still possible to cruise at over 30 kph, which for my group rides is enough. That said I'm looking for about a 34t chain ring now.
You got a sick bike man! I thing you whold love to use some avid single digit 7 or 9. And a 90's fork (or a 2000 rockshox sid) should make your bike more beautiful.
I've got a Scott Team Racing 1993 sitting in the garage waiting for a restore. Needs a respray as I already have all the kit and the decals ready and waiting.
Congratulations.. Saludos desd Mexico
I have sunrace shifters on my 1993 specialized allez and clarks cables, I got the cables at dicks and got the ones with the Teflon coating for only $1 more, I wish I had some of your vintage road bikes, I watch you channel constantly. Im disabled and 27 yr old so I am into restoring vintage bicycles. all my bikes I own but one are road bikes and are vintage but I own a modern 2017 diamondback hardtail and im building up a 80s womens Raleigh MTB at this moment to sell for $150 to someone that wants it. ill be watching more of your restores for sure. keep restoring and sharing.
Thank you. Hope all your builds go well!
@@MonkeyShred thanks I can't wait until I have all my tools I got stolen from a old apartment storage back(all but few back now) and tge skills and knowledge you have gained
Oh no! Sorry to hear about the theft. I've almost had my stuff stolen twice now. Not nice :(
That’s a nice rebuild. I think the 1x gears are always a bit limited as I find with my modern Cannondale trail. I run out of spin when my cadence is about 105rpm and I am only doing 24 mph. I have now changed from a 30t to a 32t for slightly better top end but I think it will always be a compromise with 1x but I love the bike.
My mate with his older 3x MTB has a much better range for all situations.
Also with the chain line, I have restored an old Raleigh classic racing bike from 1975 this winter and replaced the original bottom bracket with a Shimano cartridge of the same axle length. Didn’t realise that the offset would be different so the small chain ring touched the chain stay so have fitted a 2.5 mm spacer. All appears ok on the service stand but waiting for dry weather to road test it.
What strikes me is with a derailleur the chain with only ever be straight in one of the gears anyway.
Thanks for another great video. I learn a lot from you.
It is a bit of a compromise for sure at the top end. It love a 1x setup for the cleaner design but I do miss the top end of a 3x sometimes! True about the derailleur too!
I have a 1992 ALpinestars AL-Mega
Going to Convert to DISC , got a local Welder to weld a IS tab at the Back and mount a 120mm Rotor
and do a 1x9 or a 1x10 set up
with a Rigid Fork
Joni English that'd be cool to see a video on if you'd be up to making one
don't do it!!!
the IS tab already welded few months ago , 120mm rotor jsut fits under the Relief of the drop out .very clean looking .
the Original Front Deraileur tab broke off and had it rewelded .
i have the Original rims - will delace the DX hubs and use 6 bolt black Novatec hubs .
also have the White industry Crankset FORGED USA with a 110 BCD narrow wide chain ring , with a Trigon MC03 carbon rigid fork
cool bike, cool music :)
Need some riding footage!
Another good video, glad to see your'e getting some ads too (FYI, I for one would be interested in your sources for parts you install, like the brake noodles).
That bike reminds me of a 27 speed Gary Fisher I had but got fed up with.
Its a shame 1X bikes weren't more popular in the 90's.
How much would you sell it for?
I'm looking at putting an 11-40 cassette on my cross bike. I'd definitely love to see you try it first haha
Ha! I will when I can. It's pricing up very expensive when compared to a MTB setup! The shifter for example, £25 new vs £100 new. :O
I love your cat
Love it!
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing this video I would like to convert my Scott p55 I think it's around 2010 how do I determine what size bottom bracket and crank arm I'm wanting to convert it to a 1x11 can you point me to any resources?
GOOD JOB
Thanks for the video that is a great help for me as I'm looking at doing something similar. Did you increase the front chainring size? Not sure what frame yet (likely a Kona Kilauea or Cinder Cone) I'm looking at an 11-34 on the rear and a 42t on the front but am worried about clearance around the chainstay. Any thoughts?
great video - I need to know more about calculating the chain line - my 1x conversion shifts like crap - almost certainly chain line related but I have no idea how to work that out - any good videos or links you can share?
www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html
Here you go, from the bible itself. The front is pretty self explanatory. The rear gets a bit more complicated.
Love the Laura Kampf Sticker!
First one to point it out ;)
@@MonkeyShred did you meet her or where did you get it?
Horstelin I haven’t met her yet. I was due to go to the makers event when it was in Birmingham but I fell ill that weekend 😟 I bought a T Shirt from her shop and she sent a couple of stickers with it too ☺️
i feel like on the road with slicks you could probly get away with a 40t chainring as long as it doesn't hit the chainstay
Love the retro look with the 1x drivetrain. I am using a retro mtb for commuting and touring with a 3x7 speed drivetrain. After watching your video I am also considering to 1x9. Could you post a link to the casette and the crankset? Cheers.
I can indeed:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362416188531
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SWTXO-10-Speed-MTB-Bicycle-Flywheel-Bike-Cassette-Sprockets-Cycling-11-40T-42T/132730885381
thanks man I have a many post frame I think and I want to ask what size is the headset and quil adapter that you put on your bike
It's a threadless fork! No adapter needed for me. 1 1/8"
Come to the San Francisco area next year and ride the Red Bull Bay Climb. I was there yesterday to spectate and it was good!
Red Bull and Climb in the same sentence makes me think it's pretty intense??
It pretty much is. 21% grade max climb. 3 blocks. Starts off at 12%. It's run what you bring. I saw everything from those generic rental bikes you find on the streets to a couple of Santa Cruz mtb's to full on road bikes. Check out the photos I took:
www.flickr.com/photos/75643561@N00/albums/72157701158071955
I want that pink Specialized :P
I think they bike looks sweet, If it were my bike I would put on a 44t narrow wide chainring for more flat riding, also I have a question, have you ever heard of or tried fabric brand saddles, I just put one on my 2018 specialized sirrus, it's the fabric scoop radius elite 142mm, i bought it on an impulse by for cheap and its extremely comfortable compared to the stock specialized canopy saddle.
I am tempted to replace the ring with something bigger. I'll soon top it out with those slicks on. I haven't tried those saddles no. Once I bought a charge and settled right in to it, I didn't really look at anything else for my other bikes :D
@@MonkeyShred the charge saddle definitely looks nice, but I'm hooked on fabric brand saddles, I think the fabric brand is made in England
I lv bike, cats , watch n enjoy d end of s track.....
Sunrace make a 8 speed, 11-40t. Its heavy but not terrible, and its pretty good value.
Good to know that!
@@MonkeyShred comes in 9sp too, depends on what shifters you have laying about. The sl-m310 8 sp can be had for about 10aud so around 5 quid.
Cute kitty!
Excellent I have a 9 speed Specialized bike cassette is 12-36 on 2 chainrings 48-36 works Ok I got problems with the back shifting any ideas?
There's no way to diagnose a shifting issue with such basic info
What’s the tune at the end!!!!
the v brakes need the skinnier pad washers on the inside to make the brake arms sit strate up instead of being quite wide apart
Definitely on the front can't tell on the back. I know the clarkes brake pads are quite thick should always use jagwire 70mm.
Thats whats crazy to me. I work at a bike shop, I can get anyone's shifting damn near perfect....except mine. I used the correct shifters, correct derailleur, the hanger isn't bent, i just can't get it to work and its frustrating
Do you know where I could get hold of a set of Raleigh M-TRAX 1500 decals from?
I don't I'm afraid. I'd normally search eBay / velocals or DNFive.
what would you say is the total expenditure of the bike build
Probably about £200
I have scott mtb hybrid and my front v brakes are not working .do i get the same or will any do ?
You don't have to get the same. I'm sure most, if not all, will work in its place.
Nicd video idol new subscriber here in Philippines, hehehe
Thanks for subbing!
Change somewhat, I have a Abbey Pursuit 12 speed bike, the serial number under the bottom bracket is 63 KT10 OA8. Any idea of the year ?
No idea I'm afraid.
where can I trace the year ?
I just got a 1999 Schwinn Moab with deore xt groupsen, deore hubs and everything. I also converted it to 1 by now its 1*9. Can you suggest me some tyres. Now i have a 26*2.2 Maxxix cross mark which is pretty slow.
You want fast tyres? The Michelin Wild Run'R that I have one this are super fast rolling...well... they are slick and 1.5". I'm about to swap them for some Maxxis DTH in 2.1" though.
@@MonkeyShred you are going to use it for gravle? My one is perfect for off road. But on road the tyres kill the speed.
Man that’s way cool I have a 1x9 vintage conversion I didn’t think you could go up to a 10 speed
Oh yeh 8/9/10 speed pretty much use the same body, they just have different cog spacing.
@@MonkeyShred awesome I'm considering going 10 speed for the clutch derailluer so I can stop loosing my chain lol
What about STI levers and drop bars? :-D
Road levers are so expensive compared to MTB :(
'Charge Spoon' Thinking of buying one for my Claud Butler Sierra rebuild bike, are they as good as they all say, "err,, i'm old and need some comfort ?"
They are my go to saddle now so I'm a bit biased. Comfort. I do think there is enough give in them but everyone is different.
@@MonkeyShred .....cheers 👍
How's the cheap cassette working out I am looking at one for a 1x build on a x country sintesi build
Great. No problems with it at all
@@MonkeyShred great thanks for the help
I always wanted to do a 1x10 on a retro bicycle but never got the time
Do it ;)
MonkeyShred ok
no grease on headset cups and seatpost?Man that hurts as well as the rusty screws and rusty scratches on the steerer tube :)
Grease isn't always necessary on the headset for installation but I have since put some on the seatpost.
hi! what hubs did you use?what brand exactly?
I think they're just some old Shimano ones. Altus maybe. They're not high end at all.
@@MonkeyShred it is a cassette type right?do you think if you use the latest hubs today it will fit to your frame?example u used deore xt hub and let say you didnt install the disk brake and instead u used the vbrakes,is it okay?i have same frame like your's
Nice job. But hold bike by the seat post.
You can hold whever you want really. "Best practice" does go by the seatpost though. For anyone that doesn't know why... If you're over-zealous and crank the clamp tight you run the risk of crushing the tube. You risk damaging the paint too if the bike starts swinging in the clamp.
@@MonkeyShred fair enough. Working in a bike shop in the 90s and 2000s and a Pro mechanic for while has taught me that there are certainly more then one way to get the job done.
I think that mothers 1x stuffs is made for hardcore mtb only .. That sort of the bike that you made is more universal .. Tarmac, bad roads, gravel, easy trails will need more range from 2x .. My opinion only
v brake gape is way too big. switch smaller and large spacers on brake blocks ... sorry for ocd
Thanks
@@MonkeyShred keep up the good work
Beautiful pussy cat, thank you for introducing her/him??
She's a her. :)
How many bikes do you have?
You don't wanna know....
I'd probably say over 30.
*Very easy to use and empty.*
I'd of installed a hollow tech crank..
Wouldn't match with a ST BB though :)
top is that the bike
Thanks
Chainline should be 47.5mm,
Ah yes I see that on Sheldon's site now.
close up rust shots - wtf
On what?
tutta assemblata senza usare un grammo di grasso. Da nessuna parte. Bah.
This bike is not a mtb is an trekking bike
Why do you think / know that?
It was most certainly a mountain bike in its day. Just looks a bit different compared to modern standards
Don't do this at home. Use grease while assembling all parts that have metal on metal contact. You will thank me later.
Don't do what at home? I do use grease everywhere. I've bought enough seized stems, seat posts, bottom brackets etc
i have no doubt that you use it, simply it can't be seen in the video.