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- Complete strip-down and restoration of possibly the roughest S-Works mountain bike on the whole of TH-cam. This one has been butchered, fitted with rotten parts and whipped by years' worth of salty air.
It came up a treat and is once more a super lightweight, pro-class vintage XC racing bike worthy of being cherished.
Inspired by other retro bike TH-camrs:
Oldshovel: th-cam.com/channels/zrV.html...
Monkeyshred: / monkeyshred
Lance Hatch: th-cam.com/channels/B9_.html...
garys.projects: / niphecut
Special new parts:
Tyres, Ride Terra One: www.rideterraone.com/
Grips, ODI: odigrips.com/
Saddle, Selle Italia Flite Titanium (eBay)
Fork, Pace RC30 (eBay) - กีฬา
Praise the algorithm. Discovered your channel today and I can honestly see myself bingeing every video. Knowledge and passion is evident. Tremendous stuff
Welcome to the small but growing cartel of retro bike nerds. You have found the best channel on TH-cam.
I've had so many hobbies over the years--cars, watchmaking, gunsmithing, aquariums, aviation, PCs, but man--bicycles are something special. I'm currently restoring a 1982 Trek 311 and your channel is just the inspiration I need to keep going. You are doing great and deserve more subscribers and views. Keep it up! Oh, and I've noted the watch addiction on your end as well.
You sound like me and all the male Cheshers before me - we've had lots of obsessive hobbies and collections but bikes is the one that's stuck with me. I hope you're going to document your Trek build? Share link if so. And yes - lots of different watches in shot, I've noticed that too! Very few of my "special" ones get worn in the workshop (except the '70s Longines Conquest at the end of this vid), but I do have quite a variety.
@@red_dread When you are doing a restoration channel, you kind of become a hand model, so the watches make sense! I've been pretty crap about documenting the Trek resto so far, just been enjoying the process of researching everything.
What a beautiful looking bike. It's a classic, well worth the time, effort, and labour of love to restore it the way that you have. Cheers!
LOVE this and hope to see more of these retro MTB builds ✊ can't get enough of these
Great build!
Watching this after recieving my nearly NOS m952 chainset and bb for '96 s works m2 build. Needed to see someone else's build.
Great, will you be sharing your build online when it's finished? Would be nice to see it. My first S-Works was in 99 so it was an M4 by then. The original M2 was so cool.
This is awesome, great work! Love that fork and the pink touches :-)
Very tastefully done.
Lovely looking piece of kit👏
Great retro bike and very good and light steel frame. These XTR M900 cranks look as they were stored in a salt mine for decades. A Rock Shox Mag 21 would look awesome on the S-Works steel frame. The end result is very nice :)
The cranks are indeed dreadful aren't they? Pretty sure it lived outdoors on the Northern Scottish coast for some years. As for the fork, the Mag 21 would indeed look great with its gold colour - the original suspension option was the Judy FSX, which was developed especially for this bike in a partnership between RockShox and Specialized. I wonder how much internal technology they actually share with the Mag 21? I have occasionally seen them but the prices are silly and I prefer this bike rigid anyway!
It looks absolutely beautiful my friend. I would love an old school Mountain bike like this.
You should definitely get one! The fun part is the search - incredible bargains come up on eBay and Marketplace all the time, and if you watch videos like this one and others you can get all the techniques and suggestions for making it good as new. I highly recommend.
Retro really nice good job 👏
Good job looks amazing 🤩
Nice video! A few suggestions that I’ve learned from rebuilding and cleaning bikes:
- Use a pipe cutter for precision in cutting tubes to length. It also reduces the need to file the edges and using a power saw to straighten.
- Fine steel wool pads can help further remove the rust on chrome. There’s a product out there that can also help remove the rust and its waxy film serves as a protective barrier for a few months. Check out a video from Jay Leno’s garage
- Consider clear coating your frame to protect the decals. Clear coating will also give nice shine to your frame and make it look brand new
Thanks, I'm terrified to try wire wool on that fork but I have to try something. Great tip on the Jay Leno channel, I already subscribe to him so I'll go have a look. As for clearcoat, thankfully the S-Works decals are already lacquered over so all it needed was that lovely top wax. You may have seen my Dyna Tech however, where the decals all need sealing back down. Regarding pipe cutters, I have some but couldn't be bothered. I much prefer a shower of sparks for the camera!
Looks great!
beautiful bike, you know what else would look good on that would be a original Manitou 1 or 2 fork, those CNC machined forks are a piece of art. i enjoyed the video keep it up!
I agree, an original Manitou would look amazing on this build. I'm enjoying keeping it rigid though, just because I love the light weight and twitchy feel of it. Later in the 90s there was actually an official partnership between Specialized and Manitou - in fact my '99 S-Works M4 was available as standard with a Manitou Ti Spring model, although I got mine as frame only.
Awesome video awesome build
Beautiful bike well done to restore it
just started to watch video, looked at the forks could not have said it better and then thought at that time a pair of pace RC30s several minutes later in your office and what appears, brilliant choice, great restoration not over the top just how i would do it. I did see a video a while back chap has 1994 Kona explosif in good condition, strips it takes cantilever mounts of turns into modern bike , i still have sleepless nights over this.
Ha, you may or may not like my later vids in which I restore this bike to full XTR as nature intended, and anoint the fork with a pink rattle can. Entirely period correct at least. I tend to agree with you that "restomodding" a classic bike with modern parts is not for me, however we all have different cut-off points for our definition of retro/classic. For me it's 1995. If it had V-brakes when new, it's fair game - as you'll see from my restomodded Bianchi Frankenbike in another video. That thing has bits on it from the mid-90s to the present day and it runs great. Won't keep anyone up at night either, because it was never a thing of beauty. But yes - this S-Works was an abomination that needed to be saved.
When you were talking about shimming the steering tube and then pulled out the aluminum foil.....I almost turned it off 😂😂😂. Great build done right!
Ha ha, I didn’t think of that! That’s actually the sort of thing I might have tried in years gone by - I definitely had at least one headset spaced out with insulating tape back in the day.
Great video and love how the shine of those forks line up with the original seatpost. I’m all for vintage but sometimes you gotta mix it up with a bit of modern parts. Also love the Goodfellas line, “Now go get your shine box!” Well done.
Oof, you might not like what I’ve done with this fork since that video was made! Let’s just say it’s still a work in progress.
Looks beautiful
I’m going to keep this plastic V brake, and one day I’m going to give it to one of my enemies 😂🤜🏻
Imagine waking up and seeing that on your pillow. You’d know you’ve been served.
😂😂😂
Bike looks great. Really good job 👍
Class...
dude! amazing, love how it turned out. the forks were a nice touch, very good choice. when you pulled out all those xt shark fins omg!!! hahaha. nice job on the video best one yet, can't wait for the ride vids !
Thanks mate, that fork could be considered controversial but I think it works! Those shark fins were a pocket money upgrade when I was a kid but I know how scarce they are now so I couldn’t resist the flex.
Great video, love these vintage MTB restorations. Hope you do some more. Although I would love to see a set of Panaracer Dart/Smoke tires on this bike. Cheers
Don't worry, there are plenty more! I have 10-20 vintage MTBs plus more road and track bikes and more modern stuff, so won't ever run out of bike stuff to film. And you'll see some Panaracer tyres in action soon - got a very rare coloured set going on an early-90s Pace for a forthcoming film, keep eyes peeled...
if you lived and rode during this time, you can't not fall in love with this kind of geometry.
It's the shape I used to endlessly draw on school books. The longer and lower the better, with a seatpost way up in the sky. But the reality of riding it, as I'm sure you know, is a nightmare! I've ridden track bikes that would handle better off road.
The color of the cables and grips should match the blue decals, methinks. ;)
Wonderful
The tan tyre walls are the business
They look amazing don't they? I wouldn't do a 90s build without them.
Excellent reference to Spitshine Tommy. Top notch work there. I love the look of this bike. So purposeful and understated. If I had to reduce myself to using a cliche rap exclamation as a compliment I think I’d have to go for “sh!t is tight”. Lovely stuff.
This guys a pro well done nice video thinking of buying 1 it's got the rigid fork on it
If you find one, grab it! Would like to see what the original rigid fork looks like too - I'm guessing slight curve and Ritchey dropouts.
Wow. They don't make them like that any more. Stunning bike.
You can still see framebuilders on Instagram building similar stuff, but it would cost you about a hundred times more than this project cost me!
@@red_dread for me, I find that modern mtb's lack character, fragile looking rear mechs which look as if they're about to fall apart, look cheap, look plastic and look mass produced. To me they lack class, but then I started off with a Ridgeback XT in early 85 but soon replaced it with the Saracen Conquest that Nick and Richard Crane took up Kilimanjaro and have had about 20 others since. My current bike which I have had since 2007 was a GT Aggressor for £50. It was used as a trade in and not looked at by the shop and I primarily bought it for my girlfriend at the time as she wanted a smaller frame. However, she declined so I took off all the crap and put on XT 94 gruppo. Love it. Love the channel with lots of reminiscence.
Cool bike. I liked the stem. And to be more precise, this is how the bolts of fastening to the fork rod are laid out. I have never met such people.
The stem is lovely isn't it? Raw titanium - has a really nice unfinished look to it and of course very light.
So just discovered your channel & loving so much of so much & this comment is on the wrong video but the key with those old shifting units is not HEAT or WD40 but to use other chemical cleaner - Mass Airflow cleaner is the go… it safely helps all the things which are not oil but plastic!
I have a can of that, but I’m not holding out much hope that it will succeed where degreaser has already failed! Anyway I’m looking forward to doing it the old fashioned way: strip down, inspect, toothbrush etc
beautiful, restoration go ahead
Great video! Perhaps some Mothers mag wheel/metal polish on a cotton buffer wheel using a rotary tool (like a Dremel) on medium speed would really shine up the fork. For the crank arms, some 1000 grit sand paper, then a good polish should cut through the corrosion. In Canada, we’re no stranger to corrosion.
Thanks, I fear I will indeed have to get the sandpaper out for that crank. I was terrified of making it worse but I suspect I have no other option! Look out for my next video in which you can see just how awful this crank looks in daylight.
@@red_dread I use 300 grit wet and dry then 1000 and finish with 3000 and then buff with dremel. Comes up beautiful.
nice video 🔥
Those forks turned my coffee to a more bitter brew .
Nice. Not totally sure about the pink accents, but I liked the Goodfellas reference. Keep them coming.
Are you busting my balls about the pink bits? I need to teach you some manners. What's right is right.
these retro bikes look good with bmx headsets and handlebar. i converted three of them keep the gears just the handles bars and stem i change the bike rides and feels like a champs. fun to ride feel like my youth days are back before you knock it give a try you love it
I agree, that looks cool and is fun to ride too. My '99 S-Works M4 has quite a high riser bar on it and is set up singlespeed so it feels like a giant BMX which is great. A lot of my retro builds already have quite special bar/stems which I wouldn't want to lose though - this one has titanium stem and ITT bar that are well worth preserving.
Yeah that's a nice bike I wouldn't worry about it write it like it is
For the Xtr cranks use wood stripper or oven cleaner to stip the coating which is actually varnish. Then hand sand to only 400 or 600 grit to get the stock matt finish. Then go out and get the cranks re-anodized in clear ano. Bob's your uncle ! 👍
Watch out for a video on this topic coming soon. I met a guy with a shot blasting machine so we're going to experiment.
@@red_dread nice. That works too. You will have to sand afterward still.
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Wow! Beautiful build. Would love to see how you deal with the cosmetics.
I think the chrome fork looks sick on this bike
It will do when there's a bit more chrome on it!
I had one of these - the M2... All carbon and ti... was so sweet... and got stolen...
all i can say is im super jel !im currently restoring a retro specaized bike myself and its taking allot longer then expected i too need to find new forks for this bike as the origninal ones got bent ad the stem tubes been cut off so its still stuck inside lol i might look for some pace forks now i need a 1' steerer tube too,anyways i enjoyed this vid and ive now subscribed
Hey now! All the cool kids in the early 2000's had a Marzocchi Bomber fork. But great video, you have a new subscriber. .:)
Ha, yes they did - especially the kids who could jump and do stunts like I never could! A fork that changed history no doubt, but has no place on an old-school steel lightweight. It is still in my workshop waiting for a new home. Glad you like the vids.
Love the Pace rc30 rigid fork.
Done the tin foil trick on many chrome parts more recently a 90s GT but started using on chrome from my dads classic car in the 90s does work well.
I had a flite trans alps on my bike back in the 90s still use it today don't find anything else quite as comfy.
Shame you can't find some ritchey megabites (I think?) tyres difficult to find but then old tyres and riding is difficult.
I tried to get an old Sintesi Bromont frame mounted on my bedroom wall at home but my wife didn't like the idea... her fault its now going to cost more because I said if I can't hang it I am rebuilding it...
I was scared to go too hard with that foil - I think it only works if the chrome isn't already peeling. Need to find a more permanent solution. I never rode Flites back in the day but have been putting them on a few of my builds recently because they look so cool. I did once have Megabites, there were recently some gum-coloured limited edition ones on ebay that would have cost hundreds. I think these new Terra One tyres look the business though. I used to have my S-Works M4 frame hanging on the wall but then I rebuilt it to tow my kids' trailer. A lot of my bikes are ornaments nowadays, but on sunny days they'll still get ridden.
@@red_dread the foil won't on flakey chrome. I showed my step grandson the trick on GT he thought it was magic. It's mainly for pitted chrome.
The profile of the flite is the best. So minimal.
Lovely find and great build 👍🏼 Take a look at one or two videos of my mine to see how to sort that crank out, it's not difficult at all 👍🏼 My Cannondale crank looked even worse than your XTR.
Thanks, I've subscribed and very much look forward to watching some of your projects. The problem I have with XTR is that unlike XT which can be polished up to a high shine, the XTR had a satin outer finish which the more you polish the more you lose. I'm trying to decide whether I'd rather have pitted satin or none at all!
Yep, you need to remove all the old satin coating before you can polish it to a mirror shine. Alternatively you can have it vapour honed/blasted which is fairly inexpensive.
Nice vintage specialized....
I find it interesting that the M2 mountain bikes get more love than the M2 road bikes of the same era. They both are wicked good.
I must admit I was obsessed with MTBs back in the day and paid relatively little attention to the road, apart from LeMond of course. I guess most kids in 92 had the same priorities, hence the nostalgia today is stronger for the MTB side.
Very true but curiously it takes twice as long to sell a mountain bike than does a road bike. The MTB crowd is very soft.
Excellent build! I'm trying to source parts for my Sworks M4 at the moment. Coronavirus is slowing me down.
Yes, it's certainly putting online prices through the roof! Lucky I have a good network and nothing else to spend my pocket money on. Are you going for late '90s XT and equivalent? I dug out a load of that for an '03 Bianchi I just finished. Might film that bike although it's not pretty...
It's a 2001 Sworks that was red and white. I painted it to resemble the 98 Sworks M2 in Grabber-Green. It will have decent disc brakes and a wider handlebar but have the look of a late 90's Specialized.
The eccentric millionaire, nice touch for ebay sales lol
Ha, I'm strictly a buyer only on eBay - I can never bring myself to sell anything!
I just recently came across your channel and I share the love of the original old bikes. I do have questions. I don't ever see you checking the interior of the frame and forks for internal rust and when you do find internal rust how are you treating it? How do you know the frame is still sound for use?
Good question. I do occasionally check but (1) have never bothered filming the process, and (2) have never done a particularly thorough job of it, usually just by eye. I did once have a Reynolds 853 frame with a rusty streak coming out of a drainage hole at the dropout junction, so I dried it out and sprayed a can of Framesaver down inside. But that was a relatively new frame so I guessed my efforts would have nipped any problems in the bud. As for this old S-Works, it's only ever going to get used for light duties on sunny days in its retirement, so I'm not particularly worried! The alloy spoke nipples will fail under my weight long before the frame does.
Thank you for replying. I have a couple of oldies and will likely do the same treatment. Keep up the great videos.@@red_dread
no to the pink grips but what a bike
Those pink grips now reside on an '89 Saracen where they look perfect. This S-Works nowadays has clear ones so you can admire the blue anodising on the ITM handlebar.
My buddy still has one of these. Almost all original too! Too bad he hardly rides it. These are really nice bikes.
Super rare! I’d never seen one until this one surfaced. What fork is on your friend’s?
red_dread That's the one thing that's not stock besides the tires and chain. It uses a custom fork by Rock Lobster. This bike is too pretty for a suspension fork. Its really light for a steel bike and rides really smooth. Ive forgotten, were these frames made by Tom Ritchey? I haven't seen this guy in over a year.
We both live fairly close to Specialized headquarters. He's right in Morgan Hill. There's lots of those nice old steel frames still floating around here. But Mostly the steel Allez's. This is a rare one indeed. My company sells the most Specialized's in Wackofornia so we are pretty close with them too. I had one of the original Stumpy's but unloaded it.
RollinRat I’d no idea if Tom Ritchey himself had a hand in these frames, but that might explain why it wears the special Works badge instead of being branded as a standard Stumpjumper. What an honour to have one in my collection! As for original Stumpjumpers, the first one I saw was the 88 one with the Browning Automatic electronic transmission, which blew my tiny mind. I used to work for a S dealer too, so I’ve been very spoiled with lots of S-Works models.
red_dread Dont get me wrong. I'll never own an SWorks nor a modern Spesh after knowing what I do. As far as I'm concerned they are Special Ed. I just love old steel bikes.
All I buy are custom made frames from friends I know I can trust. Quality is horrible in the bike industry. I used to be a mechanical inspector!
I see Special Ed's stupid designs and vindictive business practices. They're certainly not the worst out there, I am just very careful how I spend my money. I once worked in a machine shop building carbon satellite structures. I KNOW how it's supposed to be done. The bike industry can't even come close!
I believe the eccentric northern millionaire approves of your work!
He’s going to have to admit that a whisper of neon pink is a beautiful thing.
Awesome video and excellent job on the bike! But when the hell did 1994 become "vintage"?!?!?!?!?!?
I’d say it’s the very last year of “vintage”! Anything post-95 is new-fangled.
Hi where do u get the amberwall tyres many thanks
Hi, they’re Ride Terra One. Not sure on stockists, I bought them direct via Instagram. They’re perfect aren’t they!
I’m searching for a 17”-20”, 1995-2001 Stumpjumper M2 or an S-works frame if anyone has one or a lead on one please let me know. My rockhopper frame just started to get hairline cracks so unfortunately need to replace it, figured I’d see if I can get lucky and find a stumpy or Sworks. Even if you’re reading this in a few years from now, I’ll always be interested. Just drop a reply comment and I’ll see it in my notifications and get back to you. Thanks! Love the retro MTB community- you all are great!
Did you know Specialized has a lifetime frame warranty? As long as you're the original owner of the frame and have some proof of purchase - I recently got a no-quibble replacement for my 2002 S-Works frame after it developed a hairline crack, and that was after about 15 years of hard use!
You could try various grades of wet and dry (used soapy wet) on the crank arms. I've brought back worse to a mirror finish. sadly, you'll lose the XT graphic. I'm looking for a reliable way to replace component graphics... any ideas? I note your disgust at the bomber forks. Please don't watch any of my videos as you'll end up smashing your computer screen ... my builds are budget, not big buck LOL !!
I'm still toying with the idea of sanding a couple of sets of cranks. As for replacing graphics, there's one seller on eBay somewhere in Eastern Europe that sells decent replacement graphics (in the form of decals) for M900 XTR cranks - which look the same but will never be as nice as the original etched and varnished finish. But for others such as XT you'd just have to paint them back on or live without I fear.
the pink bits make it look like an early Marin.
Wait till you see the colour I'm going to spray that fork! It's going to look amazing. I know the Marins you mean, that granite grey contrasted with a fluoro front end looked so good.
Beautiful build and entertaining commentary, still I think any direct drive cromo fork would look much nicer...it completes the silhouette of a stumpy, which an S-Works steel basically is.
I still don't know exactly what fork this was meant to have - I always thought the Direct Drive was a bit ordinary but perhaps there was a Ritchey-built upmarket one that ought to go on this. I'd never find it though.
red_dread I stand corrected. In this case the Pace is probably one of the best options.
wow legs!
I own blue Trek Y11 oclv if you are interested in buying. Kids are groving and I need some space in my garage for their bikes, so one must go....
I do quite like those - can you email me pics to oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk? I might be able to find a use for it...
Hey, what if I where to tell you that I can get the original fork. How much would you be willing to pay?
I love Marzocchi... I like them on that bike tbh... if that would have been mine. I still see Marzocchi as the best fork producer (but not really since Fox bought it). However can I have them Bombers? :D I guess they would look/work better on my 2002 dirt jumper :)))))
Sorry to say that Bomber is already earmarked for another build. It's a bonded 1" steerer anyway, so would never fit any '02 bike because they would all have been 1 1/8". Yes they are great forks, really simple and robust and deserve their place in history. I just think this bike is a very different style and doesn't need a "big-hit" fork.
Where did you get your tan walled tyres?
Those are from Ride Terra One. A modern remake of classic designs, they're extremely good tyres.
What are those tyres?
They're called Ride Terra One - I highly recommend.
Autosol for those crankset?
Yes, I did use some but I think it would require proper sanding to get all the damaged coating off. Apparently glass bead blasting is the best solution so now I'm investigating that.
All the best bud, I have to say after watching your video I straight pulling my rock hopper which is for ages deep buried in my garage out and start to restore it bit by bit, I'll be chuffed if I could just do half of what you doin 👍
This fork. Do you have a full name of it. I want to restoration my gt timberline retro mtb
Yes, it's a Pace RC30, second generation. What happened to the fork that came with your GT?
@@red_dread that fork is not oryginal and is with suspension. I want some new like you have or symilar. Thx
What tyres do you use? Are the ones on this the same as the raleigh in the video?
No, that old Raleigh has 1993 Tioga Psychos on it, most of my restorations have new Ride Terra One tyres. There should be a link in the description.
red_dread ok thanks 👍
Dude, can i have that expedia saddle? been searching for many years for one!
Of course, I’m never going to use it! You can see in the vid it’s pretty scuffed but entirely usable. Get at me on Oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk for address etc.
What tires are those? Bike look great by the way.
Robert Williams they’re called Ride Terra One, fresh from Switzerland. I messaged the guy on Instagram.
@@red_dread I'll check them out
Terrance from Terra One here. A web store for the RIDER T1 tires should be open at rideterraone.com soon. Until then, feel free to contact me at info@rideterraone.com. Cheers!
@@terrancemalone405 Awesome thanks
Is this 1" steer tube?
jdmEg6 yes, talk about old school. Would have been pretty unusual by 94.
@@red_dread I have a 93 stumpjumper I been trying to find a suspension fork that would be upgrade from rigid fork... not many options.. got any suggestions
@@jdmEg6 I'd guess the 93 Stumpjumper is 1 1/8" steerer but not sure. That's your only constraint really because you can always upgrade headsets/stems to threadless. Period suitable options would be Specialized Future Shock, Manitou II, Rock Shox Mag 20/21 or Quadra. Avoid later longer travel forks, just because your geometry isn't designed for that and it'll throw your handling. Personally I'd keep it rigid and use nice fat tyres for suspension!
13:19 26x??
Yes, 26x2.1 if I remember correctly. They now make a range.
@@red_dread Cool!
That's the same as my old bike. I bought it as a brand new frameset in 1995, raced it for 2 summers then converted it to a city bike. Then it was stolen from me. Boo hoo. That's a picture of it next to this post, powder coated black.
Sorry to hear that - I would be terrified to leave mine anywhere in this city unattended, there are so many thieves about. What fork did yours have - was it the original?
@@red_dread Yes I bought it with the original fork then upgraded to an AMP for for cross country racing. When it was stolen it had the rigid fork on. Frame made in Japan, with Ti stem, forged seatpost, beautiful bike.
Looked better before .
What was your favourite part of it before?
looked better before